Voter Fraud & Voting Irregularities

Well, I was watching Fox News (having finished RT but not yet finished my espresso…) when they had a ‘tease’ about voting machines in Texas changing Trump votes to Hillary votes.

That prompted me to remember this request:

https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2016/10/17/hillary-wikileaks-trump-issues-part-2/#comment-73881

Glenn999 says:
26 October 2016 at 1:26 pm

EM
How about a separate thread on documented/suspected cases of voter fraud/cheating, irregularities, etc.?

So h/t to Glenn999 for being way out ahead of the pack (and of me…) on this one. Glenn, Here’s your thread!

My response, in retrospect, looks a bit lame:

Sounds like an interesting thread, but from where would I get information? Or maybe just open it up for a “you post it” collection…

How about “Hey, you, guy looking for clue, how about you just watch Fox News or even just do a little web search…” (note to self…)

OK, saw the tease on Fox, but didn’t turn it up in a web search on their site. Maybe later after they’ve finished their broadcast tease?… But, did find this reference:

http://www.iamatexan.com/2016/10/24/alert-texas-voting-machines-changing-trump-votes-to-clinton/

They have the “Idiot Block of Mark and Copy” set on the story, so I’ll have to capture by slightly more complicated means… Here’s the quote from the comments:

Shandy Clark
on Monday
Hey everyone, just a heads up! I had a family member that voted this morning and she voted straight Republican. She checked before she submitted and the vote had changed to Clinton! She reported it and made sure her vote was changed back. They commented that It had been happening. She is trying to get the word out and asked that we post and share. Just want everyone’s vote to be accurate and count. Check your vote before you submit! Mary Sims-Beckham and Bradina Benson do y’all know how to report this?
Edit: this happened this morning In Arlington TX. Mon, Oct 24, 2016, which is also when I posted!

Lisa Houlette
on Monday
Gary and I went to early vote today…I voted a straight Republican
ticket and as I scrolled to submit my ballot I noticed that the
Republican Straight ticket was highlighted, however, the clinton/kaine box was also highlighted! I tried to go back and
change and could not get it to work. I asked for help from one of
the workers and she couldn’t get it to go back either. It took a second election person to get the machine to where I could correct the vote to a straight ticket. Be careful and double check your selections before you cast your vote! Don’t hesitate to ask for help. I had to have help to get mine changed.

Looks like “Straight Republican” ticket is a vote for Hillary… (Maybe they got their advice / settings from the RNC or Speaker of the House Ryan…)

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76 Responses to Voter Fraud & Voting Irregularities

  1. Gail Combs says:

    A Black talking about the agenda polls and Hillary. (Smart dude)

  2. Larry Ledwick says:

    Some items on Colorado voter fraud (possibly part of how the state suddenly flipped from a reliably conservative state to a liberal state)

    http://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/09/22/cbs4-investigation-finds-dead-voters-casting-ballots-in-colorado/

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/24/dead-people-voting-colorado/

    There should be a mandatory requirement for voter rolls to be purged against death listings like Social Security, and Felony convictions prior to major election cycles. Plus a random sample from each election get validated for irregularities just like financial audits, have a third party CPA / statistician look for things like votes cast vs known populations of likely voters, and require that those checks be completed before final vote certification can occur.

    If they did it as a routine data base hygiene task it would not be difficult at all.

  3. H.R. (off saltwater fishing in S.C.) says:

    Mrs. H.R. and I voted early before we left for S. Carolina. We did a ballot review on the electronic machine and were looking for changes, but everything seemed OK. Oh, I forgot… it made us review our ballots because we both had several choices with “no vote” for unopposed Republican candidates.

    My brother is taking mom (the Martian) to vote and I told him to witness her vote. She’s for Trump, as I mentioned before when I gave her take of the 3rd debate.

    (I need to buy a gaff. Hooked into a stingray today. I got it to the dock and all I had to do was lift it about 1 foot (300mm) and I could not lift it even choked way up on the rod. Wrapped the line, 80# test, around the rod tip so I wouldn’t slice through my gloved hands. Snapped the 80# test line on the dead lift and it was fresh line. I had my drag cranked down and that stingray was still taking line. What a hoot! Too bad I left my heaviest rod with 100# test line at home. Ah well. It was still a blast.)

  4. Jason Calley says:

    Some voting software allows fractional vote counting. http://blackboxvoting.org/fraction-magic-1/

    I cannot think of any honest reason that justifies that. Votes are whole units.

  5. John Robertson says:

    If the media is as corrupt as current trends indicate, example the emails showing the collusion between Democrats and so called journalists,the identical “talking point news”, the current failure to report Democrats crimes and corruption…… (The test ; What if X(Your smiling Kleptocrat) was a republican or conservative)

    If the MSM is as corrupt as charged, how would a media search reveal any voter fraud, election rigging?

    Makes me wonder, what kind of indicators would expose orchestrated corruption of election administrators?
    The precincts where zero votes are cast for the non Democrat?
    Those where bus loads of “vouched” votes outnumber the living taxbase?
    How can you tell if the dead are voting?
    Are the voter rolls scrutinized?
    Who controls the electronic voting systems?

    What kind of “Tells” are impossible to hide?

  6. Another Ian says:

    Re John Robertson says:
    26 October 2016 at 11:59 pm

    John, this might have been up at WUWT. One of the tactics to coordinate news releases across msm has apparently been by using embargos on release till ?? time

  7. Graeme No.3 says:

    http://www.providencejournal.com/news/20161025/voter-rolls-off-by-189000-in-ri-journal-analysis-finds
    25 Oct: ProvidenceJournal: Voter rolls off by 189,000 in Rhode Island, Journal analysis finds
    Based on estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau, Rhode Island would be expected to have 592,672 registered voters.
    But the state has 781,770 people listed as eligible to vote in the Nov. 8 election, according to the voter registration database maintained by Secretary of State Nellie M. Gorbea. That’s an excess of 189,098.
    So, Trump could get 65% of the vote and LOSE?

  8. Larry Ledwick says:

    Democratic literature included inside absentee ballots sent out to voters.
    http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/democrats-stuffing-absentee-ballots-with-campaign-literature-for-democrats

  9. Another Ian says:

    Re Graeme No.3 says:
    27 October 2016 at 3:35 am

    And re what the Democratic Party Chairman says – remember this famous response?


    “He would, wouldn’t he?”

    While giving evidence at the trial of Stephen Ward, charged with living off the immoral earnings of Keeler and Rice-Davies, the latter made a famous riposte. When James Burge, the defence counsel, pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or having even met her, she replied, “Well (giggle) he would, wouldn’t he?”[11] (often misquoted “Well he would say that, wouldn’t he?”).[12] By 1979, this phrase had entered the third edition of the Oxford Dictionary of Quotations, and is occasionally abbreviated as MRDA (“Mandy Rice-Davies applies”).[13]””

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandy_Rice-Davies#.22He_would.2C_wouldn.27t_he.3F.22

  10. Another Ian says:

    Re Jason Calley says:
    26 October 2016 at 11:57 pm

    IIRC in the early days of computerised banking some serious money was made by collecting the fractions of a cent that were floating around

  11. Another Ian says:

    E.M.

    FYI

    Your site has taken to having the downloading something flag at the top doing a lot without signs of what at the bottom

  12. Gail Combs says:

    Diebold needs special mention.

    Diebold Election Systems, Inc.
    Position: Pro to the question “Do Electronic Voting Machines Improve the Voting Process?”
    Reasoning:
    “Diebold electronic voting stations are being used in locations across the United States to assist voters in exercising their most fundamental constitutional right. The right to vote.”
    Diebold website (accessed Mar. 14, 2006)
    Theoretical Expertise Ranking: Organizations/VIPs/Others
    Individuals and organizations that do not fit into the other star categories.
    Description:
    Changed name to Premier Election Solutions, Inc. on Aug. 16, 2007 “Premier Election Solutions, Inc. is a trusted, committed partner with proven solutions to support the voting process and to facilitate the experience for those who manage it as well as those who vote. Premier Election Solutions, Inc. is headquartered in Allen, Texas and has offices and personnel throughout the USA.”
    “About Us,” Premier Election Solutions website (accessed Sep. 22, 2008)
    Mission:
    “To ensure accurate vote counting, extremely reliable security, and accessibility for every voter.”
    Diebold website (accessed Mar. 14, 2006)
    Structure: Private corporation
    Members/Constituents: 2,000 voting jurisdictions nationwide – 151,000 voting units – 33% market share (as of Sep. 22, 2008)
    Annual Budget: None found
    Sr. Executive: Dave Byrd, President….
    http://votingmachines.procon.org/view.source.php?sourceID=938

    Voting Machine Manufacturer Diebold Charged Over Bribery, Fraud, And “Worldwide Pattern Of Criminal Conduct”

    STEAL THIS ELECTION: DIEBOLD 2016

    Diebold voting machines can be hacked by remote control: Exclusive: A laboratory shows how an e-voting machine used by a third of all voters can be easily manipulated

    Diebold voting machines can be hacked by remote control: Exclusive: A laboratory shows how an e-voting machine used by a third of all voters can be easily manipulated

    Diebold/Premier ‘fesses lost OH votes

    20 Amazing</strike Horrifying Facts About Voting in the USA

  13. Gail Combs says:

    Princeton University Exposes Diebold Flaws

    This is a great site that lets you look at the type of voting machine. Click on a state and then click on the county within the state.

    https://www.verifiedvoting.org/verifier/

  14. Gail Combs says:

    Interesting…..

    I tried to post this at JoNovas

    As a female, I can’t stand Hillary and neither can my female friends. She reminds us of the two-faced witch who smiles falsely and stabs you in the back. (People forget that females are just as aggressive as males when it comes to pecking order.)

    The ‘terrorists’ claims fell flat on its face when the ‘protests’ in NC turned out to be riots instigated by Soros funded thugs from outside the state and as E.M. says the DNC was caught with it’s pants down paying for the violence at Trump rallies: Fraudulent “fights” at Trump Events – Formal Instigation

    Finally in North Carolina I have seen a lot of Trump signs put out by individuals (NONE by the RNC) and until a couple of days ago NO Hillary signs. I finally saw my very first Hillary sign Monday. I travel over the middle 1/2 of the state routinely.

    What scares the political hacks witless is Trump and his Deplorables, INCLUDE the computer savvy young Bernie supporters, are ALL watching for voting problems. WORSE this time it is not the other half of the Uni-Party – who will look the other way – they are dealing with.

    My normal log on was missing so I relogged on using my gmail account. The comment disappeared without a trace — Twice/

    So I posted the comment again using a slightly different name and my Yahoo email account and got tossed into moderation. The word ‘fraudulent’ may have been the reason. Australia DOES NOT have free speech.

    However it looks like gmail has banned me from posting on the internet. (Not the first time this problem has shown up)

  15. Gail Combs says:

    I had wanted to combine THIS:

    with THIS:

    Zerohedge came up with this:

    I think it says it all. Too bad so many have already voted.

  16. philjourdan says:

    Interesting how democrats now call vote integrity, voter fraud. I guess they are so use to fraud, that an honest vote means fraud to them.

  17. A C Osborn says:

    Gail, your post is on Jo’s site.
    There are also some more links to Voting machine problems as well as Wikileaks quotes.

  18. Larry Ledwick says:

    Just a note on current polling information since it is important to validating actual voting tallies.
    If the primary turnout this year was +1% for Republicans, and a D+7 poll that also under samples independents at only 11% when their real proportion is near 1/3 of all voters, and the poll only shows HRC winning by 4% then she is probably actually losing by 3-4%

    From Twitter:

    Bill Mitchell ‏@mitchellvii 37m37 minutes ago
    The ONLY poll we have showing the “Monster Vote” is Primary turnout and that was R+1. Pollsters ignore it.

    Bill Mitchell ‏@mitchellvii 38 minutes ago
    Bill Mitchell Retweeted Dennis Hobein

    New Reuters poll uses D+7 sample while wildly undersampling Indies to give Hillary just a 4 point lead.
    Dennis Hobein

    ‏@dhobe13
    @mitchellvii And the Reuters/Ipsos Poll (+4% for HC) only polled 11% I’s. I’s account for 40-45% of the electorate now.

  19. philjourdan says:

    @Gail – You are out of moderation. I found one comment by you.

  20. Larry Ledwick says:

    Found this on a wiki page about the Overton Window — I thought it pretty well encapsulates what is going on this election cycle, Trump and his supporters have just shifted the Overton window dramatically making topics which used to be considered out of bounds, are now fair play in public discourse. The left threw a fit when the shift started but is finally beginning to recognize that it is they who are out of step with the majority of voters and it is time to either adapt or die politically speaking.
    The same goes for the RINO republicans, the general public kept giving them “one more chance” to push back against the injustices of the left and the globalists and they just did not “get it” so now they are getting it the hard way.

    In his “West India Emancipation” speech at Canandaigua, New York, in 1857, abolitionist leader Frederick Douglass described how public opinion limits the ability of those in power to act with impunity:

    Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.

  21. Gail Combs says:

    I just did a gig at a black school in Durham NC. The janitors were very gung ho Trump and really hated Hillary. They knew about her calling for a drone strike on Assange and how the Clinton Foundation scammed Haiti. Hillary is NOT going to get the percentage of the black vote that Obama did in North Carolina.

    WIKI says:
    ” Mitt Romney narrowly carried the state of North Carolina, winning 50.39% of the vote to Barack Obama’s 48.35%, a margin of 2.04%. North Carolina was one of just two states (along with Indiana) which flipped from voting for Obama in 2008 to voting Republican in 2012.
    ……………………Romney …………. Obama
    Popular vote — 2,270,395 —– 2,178,391
    Percentage —– 50.39% ——– 48.35%”

    I am seeing no Jill Stein signs, 2 Hillary (saw another this morning) 4 Gary Johnson and several Trump signs mainly in people’s yards.

  22. Gail Combs says:

    A C Osborn, Thanks

    My computer has problems if I have E.M.’s site, Tony Heller’s site and Jo Nova’s site all open at the same time. (It already crashed this morning.)

  23. A C Osborn says:

    Gail, I look at about 15 Climate Forums every day, but I usually only open them one at a time, unless I need to cross reference between a couple.

  24. cynic says:

    Here’s a ‘Hilarious’ story. The Russians have offered to monitor the American election to ensure that it is free and fair, but the spoilsports in Washington rejected their kind offer.
    http://tapnewswire.com/2016/10/us-spurns-russian-offer-to-monitor-november-election/

  25. cynic says:

    Even before a majority of votes are fakes or from people who should really not be voting in the election, democracy has been replaced by a sham. The Post-Democratic Society has been achieved.
    http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/10/27/catherine-engelbrecht-voter-fraud-institutionalized-corrupt-politicians-tempted-exploit-weaknesses/

  26. cynic says:

    Here’s the Project Veritas undercover videos of Democratic party officials discussing how to commit electoral fraud:
    http://projectveritasaction.com/

  27. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    I’ve not seen that issue, however, I have seen evidence for some wide scale “probing” of computers by what I presume are nefarious sorts. As the spouse is on a Mac, and I’m non-PC of many flavors, we rarely have anything succeed at ‘crawling in’… However, last night (when NOT on any WordPress sites) the spouse had the Mac “lock up” on attempted opening of her (remote) email account. In my experience, that’s what a Mac does when under attack by a very smart attack that is aimed mostly at PCs and just doesn’t “get it” about Macs… (i.e. the Apple defenses stop it from succeeding but both end up in a death match…) Later that night, my Tablet had “glitch” issues (things slowing / jerky / active when doing nothing and load shows) but didn’t succumb. (Android has some exploits, but like the Mac Mach Linux base the Android Linux base is immune to the usual PC / Windoz attacks and most of the few Linux ones…) A reboot of both cleared them and they behaved the rest of the night.

    FWIW, I’m likely to be “low response” for the next day or two as I build and deploy a home IDS (Intrusion Detection System) and make a posting on it…

    My router blinky lights show no activity out of expected at this point, so IMHO whatever it was has now “moved on” to other easier PC targets… ( I really like blinky lights… they give a ‘no doubt about it’ indication of unwanted / unexpected network traffic… I have a ‘hub’ that I carry with me to most contracts that, put between the wall and my assigned workstation, gives me personal blinky lights… ;-)

    Given the recent ‘take down’ of the East Cost by a set of bot driven I[di}OT devices, it’s clear that a pre-survey & PWN was run on them; so I’m not at all surprised that post event it looks like they are doing a survey for the next set of boxes to exploit (the assumption being that many of the first batch will now be identified and locked down / taken offline…) FWIW, it looks like about 9 PM PST was the window, so call it about start of work day in Eastern Europe… Just sayin’… you might want to watch the clock for 8 to 5 Romanian / Kiev / Moscow time…

    I ought to have the IDS posting ready by this weekend, and it will include things you can do on your workstation, not just those that need a Linux box, (Host IDS), so I’d suggest installing that kind of thing and seeing what it shows.

    For those wanting to “run ahead” and ‘assemble it yourself’:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrusion_detection_system
    http://download.cnet.com/s/intrusion-detection/
    http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/drafts/800-94-rev1/draft_sp800-94-rev1.pdf
    https://suricata-ids.org/download/

    The game is afoot and they are probing actively… time for ‘shields up’ and warp engines on line…

  28. Glenn999 says:

    Don’t know how this will work out. Each case will need to be investigated and confirmed. Hopefully the supervisors of elections in their various jurisdictions will be motivated to uncover the truth. Here’s a link from the Washington Times:
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/17/no-voter-fraud-isnt-myth-10-cases-where-its-all-to/

  29. Glenn999 says:

    I don’t anything about Ballot Pedia, the Encyclopedia of American Politics:
    https://ballotpedia.org/ACORN_and_voter_registration_fraud
    This entry was about Acorn, but at the bottom of the page is new links generated automatically.

  30. Larry Ledwick says:

    I have also noticed some very slow page loads over the last 24 hours, and semi lockup (ie long delay to do things but eventually succeeding). Things which should have been just a second or less took long enough for me to start grumbling “would you load the friggen page already” sort of muttering.

    These are the current security alerts posted by CERT
    https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts

  31. Another Ian says:

    Gail

    At Jo’s site the “fraud” word and derivitives will get you in moderation. It may just put up a message to that effect with your post or it might go to the moderation queue without appearing.

    Probably has to do with our “free speech legislation 18C”

  32. cdquarles says:

    @ Jason, hmm. a vote for a candidate has to be a whole number (yes or no, for each); but a ballot? That can be a fraction. I am not obligated to vote for every race, plus, for straight ticket votes, not all races have entries.

  33. Power Grab says:

    @ Larry Ledwick: I noticed slow page loading right after Obama turned over the Internet to the other side.

  34. Power Grab says:

    I have never used an absentee ballot. I’m considering it this time. Do you think they’re better or worse with respect to being vulnerable to voter fraud?

  35. Gail Combs says:

    Power Grab, It depends…

    Use this to check what type of voting ballots you have in your county.
    https://www.verifiedvoting.org/verifier/
    Choose a state and then choose a county. You maybe able to vote in another county if you need a more secure voting method.

    If there is a paper trail you may be better off voting in person. If there is no paper trail then absentee.

    The problem with absentee ballots is they can be ‘found in the trunk of a car’ or burned.

    …in the end, justice prevailed with the convictions of 11 conspirators who had fixed local elections for years. The Greene County case is proof that absentee ballot fraud is real and not a cover story for an imagined voter-disenfranchisement conspiracy.

    The most important lesson of Greene County is that absentee ballots are extremely vulnerable to voter fraud. The case shows how absentee ballot fraud really works, and it is a reality very different from the claims of partisans and advocacy groups. More broadly, the case shows how voter fraud threatens the right to free and fair elections and how those most often harmed are poor and minorities. …
    http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2008/09/absentee-ballot-fraud-a-stolen-election-in-greene-county-alabama

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2012/09/26/absentee_ballot_fraud_exposed_crossstate_votingin_a_swing_state
    “…According to Pew, more than 2.75 million voters are registered in more than one state….”

  36. beththeserf says:

    Say, who’s behind the green door,
    the curtain … can’t be certain,
    pay no attention, citizens,
    Rosencrantz or Guildenstern, you’re
    non-party to off-stage machinations.

  37. Gail Combs says:

    The idea is to make citizens THINK they have a say in their government when they actually have NONE. Either through voter fraud of through ‘controlled opposition’ or both.

    That is why Trump is being fought tooth and nail by the MSM and GOPe.

    The globalists had almost completed the destruction of the USA. The Jeb Bush/Hillary Clinton election was to be the kill shot with the Trans-Pacific Partnership removing US sovereignty and flooding the country with non-Americans completely transforming the country. The appointment of Anti-Constitution Supreme Court Justices would destroy our bill of rights leaving us helpless to defend ourselves.

    Hillary Clinton Says ALL Our Rights Are Subject to Regulation

    The awakening has come not a moment too soon. I think in 4 more years it would be too late to salvage this country without major violence.

  38. beththeserf says:

    Hilary Clinton says: ‘All your rights are subject to regulation,’
    (‘n sotto voice) … ‘and after [ if ?] we win the US Election all your
    base are belong to us.’

  39. Larry Ledwick says:

    Slightly related Reddit is actively fighting paid Clinton trolls efforts to suppress stories negative to HRC.

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/27/reddit-users-declare-war-on-hillarys-paid-internet-trolls/

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  41. philjourdan says:

    @CD – Yes, I have a policy of never voting for an unopposed candidate, no matter how much I may agree with their stands. So half the time, my ballot is not completely filled out.

  42. philjourdan says:

    NOt exactly voter fraud, but this is priceless!

  43. Jon K says:

    @ philjourdan – Too Funny! I was not expecting that result at the end lol.

    More voter fraud that doesn’t really exist.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-fraud-idUSKCN12S213?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter

  44. Gail Combs says:

    It is funny, I just realized that TRUMP is the ‘socialist’ candidate (policies that help the worker/small business owner) while HITLERY is the CRONY-CAPITALIST candidate (policies that help the banks and large corporations.)

  45. Glenn999 says:

    More updates:
    http://6abc.com/politics/action-news-investigation-voting-from-the-grave/1575596/

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/10/27/2-investigators-chicago-voters-cast-ballots-from-beyond-the-grave/

    http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/politics/Man-Accused-With-Filing-Fake-Voter-Registration-Applications-399027631.html

    Question for all who care to think about potential solutions: What sort of law could be passed at the national level that would ensure no voter cheating or voter fraud? How would such law impact state laws in a good or bad way?

  46. Gail Combs says:

    How about if you are caught engaging in voter fraud it is automatic removal of your citizenship and you get deported…. to Venezuela.

  47. E.M.Smith says:

    @Gail:

    I suspect Venezuela would not accept them…

    @Glenn999:

    Voters treated like travelers entering the country. Show ID, biometric scan taken (IFF like most citizens, your thumbprint is already on file via military, drivers licence, professional licence, government employment, security clearance, foreign travel, etc. Etc. Etc…. the print is your ID too) all cross checked prior to certification of election. Anyone found committing fraud goes to court then prison…

    BTW note that finger print is scanned to enter Disneyworld…

    IFF that’s too much, just facial rec scan everyone and investigate dups….

    Oh and any party found enabling and any person found enabling is disbanded (for a Party) and cannot run for office nor vote. Self limits pretty quick, one way or another…

  48. DonM says:

    EM,

    RE Gail

    … how ’bout if you are caught engaging in voter fraud it is automatic removal of your citizenship, and you get deported, along with a wardrobe of nothing but red shirts … to Venezuela.

    (the red shirts may be enough of a carrot for those wack jobs).

  49. DonM says:

    Glenn,

    Voter fraud, in my proffushional opinion, is akin to treason. Maybe just treasons’ skinny little cousin, but still kin.

    No way to eliminate it completely, but a first step of enacting legislation that makes it clear that vote stealing is actually a form of treason, with appropriate penalties (the bigger the scam or harm, the bigger the penalty … like being dumped in Venezuela for voting for Hillary twice) would be needed.

  50. cdquarles says:

    If anyone had any doubts about the Hildebeest, that link which Gail posted should put paid to it. She is a tyrant. That she got through an ‘Ivy’ league law school with that attitude is very telling.

    Do I have stories about Greene County, AL. I’ve already mentioned the lady that did Federal Prison time for voter fraud, while her politician boss got probation, guess where that happened. What’s sad, and ironic, to me; is that I remember the NAACP used to fight voter fraud. [Bet you didn’t know that the Montgomery, AL chapters worked with a certain governor to get rid of Jim Crow. Guess who that governor was.

  51. cdquarles says:

    Heh, there are banks in town that require a thumb print to cash a check. Good enough for that, good enough to vote. I had a discussion with my sister and my nephew about the ‘black’ folk who fume about an ID requirement to vote. It’s stupid in my opinion. Do these folk not realize what they’re saying about themselves? /rhetorical.

  52. Wayne Job says:

    Hi Chief,
    There are two possibilities going at the moment where your computer talent could land you a job. One would be sorting out these electronic voting machines to make them tamper proof, the other would be working for the FBI sorting out everything in a particular laptop.
    Both these things need to be totally sorted before mainstream will ever even consider trusting government. Then if you are lucky and Trump becomes president and applies business principles to all departments, he will not only cull a large percentage of public servants and re- task departments, but should abolish some departments.
    Good luck America. wayne from OZ

  53. E.M.Smith says:

    @Wayne Job:

    I learned long long ago that “Seriously Busted Things” that gave advantage to some part of “Management” were generally not going to ever be fixed and no contract would be let for it. There might be bids, and maybe even sometimes someone gets hired, but their job is NOT to fix it, just to hide it better. Not my cuppa…

    So “the fix” is inside the Voting Machine Companies and they know that should they make the machines not “meet informal spec” from their ‘benefactors’ they will not get more contracts. The change has to come from a new POTUS and a new agenda and an outside agency with badges and guns and subpoena power…

    For the FBI and The Laptop: They have decent forensics guys who are already working on it. I’ve been in that kind of operation / shop before, and it is highly specialized. Every time you touch something, it is logged. Generally, new folks are NOT put on sensitive cases like that (unless the intent is to get them to blow procedures so the case gets tossed).

    For that reason, the FBI would not put me on that team (despite having had the background check and a contract at The Fed Bank Branch) as I’d need to cool my heels for 6 months or so on less sensitive projects before they would trust me on the politically big stuff. Generally it’s “personally know him and want him on my team” or at most “A guy I personally know and trust has known him for 10 years and says he would go well on the team”. Last one I was on I had a reference (the hiring manager) who had known me for about 15 years, and an ex-Mossad guy I’d worked with for about a year in a security operation. I’m pretty sure both of them are retired now… So while I’d love to be on the forensics team in D.C. at the moment, it would take a few months for all the interviews and vetting and such to happen and by then, this will be all finished.

    I appreciate the thought, though! ;-)

    BTW, post 9-11 I sent resumes to several TLAs offering availability, price not a consideration. Never heard a peep. Seems they were flooded with resumes from P.O.ed Geeks looking to get some payback… So they have had the “pick of the market” for a few years after that and have lots of good folks now. Oh Well.

  54. Jason Calley says:

    Here is a short video showing how the software for fractional vote counting enables fraud.

    There are longer versions of the same video, but briefly, the central server that compiles totals from all over the country can count votes as fractions and then display the final result as a whole number. An operator can weight votes for each candidate as they wish. “Vote for Trump will count as 0.45 vote and votes for Hillary will count as 1.55.”

    We have not had elections for years and years. What we have is a system for allowing the people to feel as if they have an influence — but “feel as if” is all they actually get.

    How to have a REAL election? Voters present ID, and get an inked finger. Paper ballots, placed by the voter into a clear box in the middle of the voting area. Box is openly visable and observable by anyone who wishes to stand there. At end of balloting, votes taken out and counted publicly right then in the same room under overhead projectors, again, observable by anyone who wishes to watch. Counts uploaded to an open internet site and verifiable by anyone who wishes.

    Done properly, this system would not take more than a few hours to produce results.

  55. Larry Ledwick says:

    Well that is scary! The short version compresses things too much to really understand what is happening. There are several possibilities, the displayed fractional votes could also be an unintended artifact of how the votes are processed, or could be a very sly way to skim votes.

    You would have to audit the code in detail to figure out why it is doing what it is doing.

    For example the floating point bug in intel processors in the 1990’s shifted output of calculations just slightly but when doing high precision calculations computers with and without the bug would come up with different results but only in the 3 or 4 decimal of the fraction and beyond. A friend of mine at the time worked for the county assessor and they calculated property taxes which are small mil levies on property values. To make those determinations of the actual tax bill due, they had to run the calculations out to 6 – 8 decimal places in the fraction because the actual bill due was only a small fraction of a percent of a very large number. That sort of accidental error was so small it was only noticed by folks who were anal about precision and audit trails and worked in those extreme ranges of decimal precision. It was totally not visible in average calculations of moderate to small numbers.

    Anyone who has worked with an excel spread sheet can understand how you can choose display options, and choose precision of numbers in calculations. If this program allows you to skim a fraction of a percent of votes cast off every voting precinct and quietly shift them to key precincts, the total votes counted will pass simple audits but could change key precincts so that different candidates win the overall counts.

    Since votes are whole numbers 1 / person for any candidate, the computer code should strictly enforce integer math on the vote counts and not even allow fractions except in the percent reporting part of the calculations “derived from” the integer vote counts.

  56. Jason Calley says:

    Hey Larry, “Since votes are whole numbers 1 / person for any candidate, the computer code should strictly enforce integer math on the vote counts and not even allow fractions except in the percent reporting part of the calculations “derived from” the integer vote counts.”

    Exactly. Unfortunately, the software for the various voting machines is proprietary and normally not available for checking — not even by the cities and states that have bought the machines! It has been a decade or so since I looked into it, but my memory is that the only reason why Bev Harris had access to to the software is that the company that owned it accidentally left copies online and unsecured. The only real difference between “climate scientists” and their undocumented data adjustments and the voting machine companies is that the voting machine people say, “we did not adjust anything at all. Trust us!”

    Suppose you are playing a series of coin flips, heads or tails, 25 cents a flip. The person with whom you are betting demands that he (and only he) be allowed to see the flipped coin. Even at 25 cents a flip, any normal person would not be willing to play more than a round or two — if that. And yet we have a system where we bet control of our lives on a game where the rules are exactly like that.

    Control of the US government is not just worth millions — or even billions. It is worth trillions. Is there anyone so naive as to think that an election system based on a secret, non-verifiable process of vote counting can be trusted to be honest? Any thinking person would assume that unverifiable elections have been made unverifiable for a reason.

  57. Jeff says:

    So Billions are paid so that Trillions can be made…

    Weren’t there a few Billion connected to the Clintons that went “missing”… (probably the same place all those laptops went :) )

  58. Gail Combs says:

    6 billion went missing from the State dept.

  59. Jeff says:

    Six billion would buy a lot of votes/rigged machines… or even a country or two…

  60. pg sharrow says:

    $43 billion of the $680 billion stimulas disappeared and Obama said “I can’t tell you where it went”. Washington Democrats know how to really “lose” money! It is no wonder “Liberal Progressive” NGOs have vast funding. Far more then the millions Soros has given…pg

  61. Glenn999 says:

    Here is another report:
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/gop-alleges-voter-fraud-broward-county-democrats-opened-tens-thousands-ballots-video/

    In reference to stopping voter cheating, the voting machines have to be eliminated unless there is a paper ballot to be compared against the machine, and these results need to be compared in routine audits. Further, as Jason Calley said above, the vote counting needs to be done in front of cameras with many onsite witnesses. Every weakness in the voting system will be targeted by those willing to cheat. A list of every step of the voting process needs to be laid out for all to see, study and comment on. Then each weak point can be fixed. I will contact my county voting supervisor for some more info.

  62. Larry Ledwick says:

    This appeared on Twitter just a few minutes ago, a spreadsheet of early voting totals at this time (circa 11/6/16)

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fz_V3oAUL8XJMEudq5wm5hDT_f554uagt6sIm_sJDro/htmlview

  63. Glenn999 says:

    We need to look at the voting process through the eyes of an organization that intends to win at all costs. Thus where are the gaps in the security of the voting process. How to cheat and win elections. Why? Only then can we patch holes:
    Here is an example of some positive thinking:

    “Mandatory IDs”

    skip the whole ID rabbit trail and the silly “racism” lawsuits with:

    1) purple dye for the thumb after voting (can only vote one time)
    2) **numbered** paper ballots
    3) a copy made on the spot of what you voted, and handed to you
    4) count kept of all ballots put in boxes
    5) HD video of every last person entering voting booths, then published
    6) HD video of every ballot box, until counted, then published
    7) illegal aliens who vote are incarcerated, and can NEVER be citizens
    8) vote fraud means incarceration, and NEVER voting again, nor helping with elections

    Just one of many I have seen lately. We need security experts. We need white hats. We need to discover the weak points and develop an action plan. Thanks in advance if anyone wants to play this game. Probably need to dissect this state by state first. Contact various Supervisors of Election and request a dialog along this line of thought…

  64. E.M.Smith says:

    I would skip the dye. Any chemical has a solvent or reactant. Simple bleach deals with most.

    Facial recognition is good enough, and you already have the I.D. and HD video going on…

    I’d have some simple cross checks. Registered voter count and names vs actually voted . (Here in California they check your name and address against the registration list and have your signature taken, so it isn’t hard to do some checking…) Voters vs SSN records, and deaths registered. Total vote vs total adult population, by city, county, and precinct. You get the idea.

    I’d also have early voting by paper picked up at the county or city offices, with ID. If picking up for someone else, their ID presented. Then the registration rolls noted that they have a mail in ballot… and cross checked against voting day votes. I would also make the voting day 24 hours long. Open at midnight Eastern time, close the following midnight. (or any other 24 that works better… maybe noon to noon?) That way you don’t have the election called or influenced by eastern results while the west is still voting…

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