I dropped by the real POTUS site (as opposed to our POTUS In Name Only, PotuSino Biden) to see what was the current muse du jour:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news
Where this article left me wondering just what was up:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-cgzbfnp6xk0
Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America
08/25/21The Leftist “select committee” has further exposed itself as a partisan sham and waste of taxpayer dollars with a request that’s timed to distract Americans from historic and global catastrophes brought on by the failures of Joe Biden and the Democrats. Unfortunately, this partisan exercise is being performed at the expense of long-standing legal principles of privilege. Executive privilege will be defended, not just on behalf of my Administration and the Patriots who worked beside me, but on behalf of the Office of the President of the United States and the future of our Nation. These Democrats only have one tired trick—political theater—and their latest request only reinforces that pathetic reality.
OK, kind of generic “Democrats attacking Trump and POTUS office”… We already know the 6-Jan “select committee” is a political hack job ala “Russia, RUSSIA, RUSSIA!!!”; so what is it they are doing now?
I wasn’t quite interested enough to go digging into it just now (first cup of coffee just starting to absorb… It is morning (mourning?) after all… ;-) So instead I went off to see what Time Pool was covering of the news:
https://odysee.com/@TimcastNews:0
and his “commentary” channel:
https://odysee.com/@timcast:c9
Where I found his opinion piece on what the 6-Jan “select committing…” are up to. Seems they are requesting the “communications” of “Trump Supporters” who were not in the 6-Jan event. So going after people NEAR the real POTUS under the guise of 6-Jan. Tim’s opinion is a bit stronger than mine, but yeah, it’s a big fat Fishing Expedition of the “Get Trump!” type, but targeting “Trump Supporters”. And folks wonder why I don’t use E-mail if I can at all avoid it and don’t do a lot of texting either. Do remember that ANYTHING you type into a phone or computer may end up on the front page of the NYT or on a congressional “hearing” desk. NSA and other TLAs ya know…
Such is life under the Marxist Dimocrats.
With that, here’s Tim’s Take:
https://odysee.com/@timcast:c9/democrats-just-went-full-fascist,:0
Tim Pool
@timcast
120,416 FollowersDemocrats Just Went FULL FASCIST, Produce List Demanding Private Records Of Trump Supporters. The demand letter requests all documents and communications going as far back as april of 2020.
Clearly having nothing to do with January 6th this appears to be an overt fascistic power grab intended to weed our journalist sources and intimidate activists
Some of those named are people like Scott Pressler, an activists who registers republicans to vote and Jack Posobiec, a journalist with sources in the White House.
The move is shocking and almost entirely unopposed by Republicans who are little more than speed bumps for the Democrats and Biden administration
While preferred to watch it on Odysee (where Gargoyle Google gets no cash), if folks are unwilling to “hit the link”, here’s the YouTube version (as long as it stays up…)
Welcome to Amerika…
Musings from the Chiefio 
I think Trump supporters on Twiddler should twiddle nothing but “Up your nose with a rubber hose, Dem/Commie/Fan Belt Inspectors!” for the next six months.
Nothing else. What kind of intelligence do you gather from a steady, flat signal like that, other than you are loathed?
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I’m half-tempted to sign up for a Fiddler account just to do that.
Okay… marginally motivated to do that. I can’t stomach giving them even one electron. But I’ll consider it.
STARVE THE BEASTS!
Fits “Democrats behaving badly” IMO
“Another reason why undoing last year’s electoral fraud is going to be an uphill battle”
“More than half of all US households now receive government benefits of some kind (as do more than half of all immigrants). Almost all that money is provided by deficit spending to fund entitlement programs. When it comes to voting, the recipients of those benefits are more likely to consider which party will give them more benefits, rather than which party will contest the election honestly and not steal power through criminal manipulation of the results.
And that’s why undoing last year’s electoral fraud at the polls next year, and in 2024, is going to be so very, very difficult. It won’t just be ongoing electoral fraud (although that will certainly be a major factor). It’ll be that so many voters won’t care about electoral fraud, or will regard it as less important than bigger government payouts. For too many voters, greed will triumph over legitimacy.”
https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2021/08/another-reason-why-undoing-last-years.html
And more on thread – bumped from Wood
“Communications security when everyone is listening”
https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2021/08/communications-security-when-everyone.html
“The west’s delusional fifth column”
The joys of being a Democrat! (/s)
https://melaniephillips.substack.com/p/the-wests-delusional-fifth-column
@another ian – In that article you linked, it mentioned the program to “educate” the Afghans in woke rainbow ideology.
That is just plain nuckin’ futz in a Muslim country.
That as much, or even more, the epitome of the mindless mindset of the commie/globalist/Dem/@#!&’ers. Ideology supersedes rational thought.
@H.R.:
Literally preaching at them that their most Holy Book is lying to them and they MUST SIN and go to hell for it. Like that’s gonna work…
@H.R. and E.M.
There was an Oz racehorse called “Think Big”
@another ian – Did “Think Big” ever win, place, or even show?
Speaking of thinking big, one of my favorite Far Side cartoons was of two spiders at the bottom of a playground slide, where they had made a web across the bottom of the slide. IIRC, a fat kid is at the top of the slide getting ready to slide down.
One spider is saying to the other. “If we pull this off, we’re gonna eat like kings!”
Now that’s Thinking Big. 😜
Ah. Here we go. No fat kid, though.
“ Literally preaching at them that their most Holy Book is lying to them and they MUST SIN and go to hell for it. Like that’s gonna work…”
And Biden, preaching from such a position of power, right after getting run out of a nation by a rag tag band of Islamist, who, when Trump was President, was routed in a matter of weeks by a tiny fraction of US power. ISIS learned to behave with Trump as President as well.
H.R.
Melbourne Cup is “the race that stops Australia”. Think Big won that IIRC So a good name if you can deliver.
If you can’t more like “Fine Cotton” – a horse substitution that got caught
“Biden Bingo card”
https://i2.wp.com/wattsupwiththat.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Biden-Bingo-3-768×768-1630069910.736.jpg?fit=300%2C300&ssl=1
Re Bingo card
That link barfs on some sites including this one
Still works via
And find
“Mumbles McGuirck
August 27, 2021 6:12 am
It’s more fun to make up a bingo card…”
in the comments
Typical of Communist take over. Seize control of enforcement agencies and eliminate all opposition. The moves of Dictatorship. Small wonder they fear about Patriotic “Counter Revolution Terrorists” that would end their seizure of power. For them it is life and wealth or death as traitors to all America.
The present theater will prove once and for all time that, Socialists are no friend to free people. Socialism always results in misery and slavery for the people. That is the only way it can function.
Now is the time when Socialism will expose itself for what it is. The enemy of all people. The tool of all wouldbe dictators…pg
The biggest problem with NSA recording all of OUR communications is that WE have all of theirs! The White Hats are not ignorant of the Dark State’s activities. The problem is to legally make it public while the MSM strive to bury it. The Internet is the sword that can cut both ways. No matter how hard they try to bury things the people are learning the truth.
We don’t need them to run our lives. And they can no longer hide..pg
https://thepostmillennial.com/opentable-reservation-service-to-work-with-restaurants-to-enforce-government-vaccine-mandates
So don’t use “Open Table”…
Looks like “Clear” is the NGO that’s your Master Of Permissions…
Open noose, insert neck, jump through hoop…
The French approach? Hold a picnic in front of the VaxNazi Restaurants:
https://europe.infowars.com/french-denounce-covid-passports-by-holding-protest-picnic-outside-restaurants/
Here’s another view of it from Tousi:
Another one with video of The French having a picnic in front of VaxNazi restaurants ….
https://rightwirereport.com/2021/08/27/watch-the-french-protest-vaccine-passports-by-picnicking-in-front-of-cafes/
A good meme? Had I the arts skill to make it…
The “day off” scene where Prof is calling out “Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?…” and nobody is answering? But do one with a voiceover of “Biden? Biden? Biden? Biden?…” ;-)
The French picnicking in front of restaurants is very powerful.
It’s the silence in the face of screaming propaganda. It says, “We can’t hear you. It’s the space between the gongs of government edicts.
We make jokes about French ‘surrender monkeys’ and French army surplus rifles fore sale, new and unused, and only need a bit of dirt cleaned out when they were dropped in the mud., but the Frogs (all respect there) really do know how to get in the face of their government. They’ve used the French Haircut before and I honestly think they are willing to do it again if the gubbmint ignortes the people on the street.
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Just my Yankee, barely informed opinion, but the French don’t seem too concerned about who or what political ideology is in charge. They just want the potholes filled, the good food on the stove or in the oven, a nice long vacation, and the wine to keep pouring.
Screw with any of that, and they are out sharpening the knives.
It has always amazed me how Jacques Average in France will go to the wall over seemingly ordinary things, while we in the U.S. wait until the SHTF before we even show up to a Statehouse rally.
The French ‘Surrender Monkeys’ can teach us a lot. They know when to go ‘Hands up’ and when to fling poo.
Postmodern logic
“from a sky news report “Israel’s COVID surge shows vaccines ‘not enough’, says public health expert”
and from the comments
“Let me see if I understand this properly. Person A feels that they need the vaccine to be protected, so they get vaccinated. However, Person A doesn’t feel protected unless Person B also gets the vaccine. And if Person B refuses to get the vaccine, Person A shames them until they do.
Let’s take this a step further. Person A, who is vaccinated, can still catch and transmit the virus, but is not subjected to going through daily/weekly testing. Person B, who is not vaccinated, and who can catch and transmit the virus, has to go through daily/weekly testing and potential quarantine. Why does Person A not have to go through testing and quarantine if they can still catch and transmit the virus?
And to go even further than that: Person A is vaccinated and, even though they can catch and transmit the virus, can walk into any number of locations that state they will only allow the vaccinated inside. Person B is not vaccinated and, even though they may test negative for the virus, are not allowed inside any of the locations that state they will only allow the vaccinated inside.
Wanna piece this together now? It boils simply down to segregation and discrimination with no real basis for doing so.
1. Person A is vaccinated.
2. Person B is not vaccinated.
3. Both Person A and Person B can catch and transmit the virus.
4. Person A does not have to get tested, but Person B does.
5. Person A can go wherever they want, but Person B cannot.
6. Person A is allowed to live their lives, while Person B cannot.
7. Person A perpetuates the shaming of Person B by stating that Person B needs to be vaccinated for Person A to be protected.
Anybody disagree with anything I just said? You do? Then go look this up because this is all fact. Nothing I typed above is untrue; you need only read the news to see that this is exactly what is happening.
If your shot works, why do I need one? If your shot doesn’t work, why should I get one?”
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Serp
August 28, 2021 at 11:41 pm · Reply
Welcome to postmodern logic, forget the rigmarole and do as you’re told.’
https://joannenova.com.au/2021/08/weekend-unthreaded-375/#comment-2460447
Decisions – “Wood” or here – here
“California Governor Worries His Recall is a Referendum on Joe Biden and Democrats
August 28, 2021 | Sundance | 263 Comments”
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/08/28/california-governor-worries-his-recall-is-a-referendum-on-joe-biden-and-democrats/
“California Governor Worries His Recall is a Referendum on Joe Biden…”
I can see his point – although you’d be hard pressed to find a worse “leader” than Gavin, Joe certainly fits the bill!
50 +/- years ago my next older brother pointed out the obvious to me.
He rhetorically asked, “Why do lawyers, who make $125,000 per year (big bucks back when), run for an office that pays $40,000 per year (typical elected public official wage back then)??
The conclusion is the obvious, “Because that’s where the real money is.”
Over the last 50 years, it’s been downhill ever since.
@H.R. – Also, by a minor extension, that’s where the power is, or at least is seen to be. Over the years I’ve come across, in a number of memoirs from politicians of various countries, too many comments to the effect that “if people knew who really runs things, there’d be a revolution”.
The internet, bless it, has made it much easier to analyse the situation; no matter which country you’re in, ponder whether the politicians “running” the show are truly acting as representatives of the people, or even their nebulously defined “interests”, or are they just “the bankers’ boys” doing as they’re told.
And I agree, the pedal has been down to the metal probably since WWII, with the supercharger kicking in since 9/11.
There is the famous Mussolini quote that “Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism, because it is a merger of state and corporate power”. He was in a pretty good position to know. A quick look round most countries right now does not lead to a reassuring conclusion. At least in Mussolini’s day the merger was only on a national scale, there was always the option of escape to another country. Now … “Great Reset”, anyone?
Another Ian
I would not disagree with your logic other than person A has greater protection against becoming seriously ill. However that is no excuse to force person B to get a vaccine passport otherwise they can’t participate in normal society
The UK’s biggest selling newspaper is at last kicking back with a new dashboard showing causes of death.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9935663/Is-time-stop-obsessing-Covid-figures-Statistics-reveal-coronavirus-NOT-biggest-killer.html
For a brief period last year it was the virus, but other causes normally dwarf the virus deaths, not that you would know it from all the hysteria.
Prior to 2009 every year back to the 1840’s had more deaths than 2020 so we have lost our perspective
Covid is ‘four times more likely to cause heart inflammation than the Pfizer vaccine in adults’, real-world study in Israel suggests
Heart inflammation is much more likely after Covid infection than a jab
There was 11 more cases of myocarditis and pericarditis among infected people
Meanwhile, there was between one and three extra cases following a Pfizer jab
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9929045/Covid-FOUR-TIMES-likely-cause-heart-inflammation-Pfizer-vaccine-study-finds.html
Eran Segal, a scientist at the Weizmann Institute, tweeted this week: “The rate of verified patients becoming seriously ill dropped from 2% to 1.4%.” Before vaccines were unrolled, that number was 4%, meaning when vaccines don’t prevent transmission, they seem to lessen the severity of symptoms.
Last Monday marked when unvaccinated patients with serious cases of COVID-19 started outpacing vaccinated cases. The trend has continued for the last week and a half.
On Wednesday public health physician and head of Israel’s Clalit health services tweeted: “As we expected – the trend continues 112 seriously ill (negative record in the current wave)/Of these, 64 (57%) are not vaccinated.”
What’s more, fatalities in Israel are about half of what they were during the January spike, when there was a comparable number of cases.
https://mondoweiss.net/2021/08/no-covid-19-cases-arent-going-up-in-vaccinated-israel-and-down-in-unvaccinated-palestine/
The Health Ministry director general said on Saturday evening that Israel’s coronavirus diagnoses and serious cases seem to be on a downward trend, following vaccination efforts.
“It all depends on continuing to vaccinate,” Prof. Nachman Ash told journalists at a press conference. “The mass of inoculated people is the main factor.”
Ash said that over the past ten days, the number of people each coronavirus carrier infects – known as the R number – has declined, and that it may soon fall below one person per COVID patient. “From there, we’ll begin to see a drop in infections,” he said.
According to Health Ministry data, 1.95 million Israelis have received a third dose of the COVID vaccine as of Saturday evening, and about 5.5 million have gotten two shots.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-s-covid-cases-are-going-down-health-ministry-director-general-says-1.10160689
@Jim2:
interesting Hobson’s Choice. Jab or Sick. How much heart inflammation in those using Ivermectin or other prophylactics and NOT getting the Jab or Sick? Eh? Crickets…
Sticking with the ivermectin and continuing to have NO illness. Really. Not even a head cold in the last year+ that I’ve been using it. At most, an occasional feeling like a bit of a tingle in the nose or throat, like something trying to “move it”, then the next day it’s all gone.
Per Israel:
One hopes the pronouncements of “Government Officials” are honest and true, but one has cognitive dissonance when looking at reported numbers:
Deaths seem lower than last spike by a fair amount, infections not so much. Is that due to the vaccine? Or perhaps due to our knowing a hell of a lot more about how to treat the infection, Delta being less prone to kill, and / or, the oldest, most infirm and most likely to die having already died and it takes more than a year to create a new batch of 80 year olds with co-morbitities?
So I’m not so inclined to believe rosy words given to the media to “dress up” by “government employees” or similar.
As the local summer in the tropics and subtropics moves into autumn, I’d expect true prevalence to drop, regardless of our interventions. What’s concerning is that autumn/winter spike. That shouldn’t be, if we were dealing with the natural epidemic season for corona viruses. The first spike, in late winter 2020 and into spring 2020 is obviously local seeding from outside.
Well, Duh. This Is Why It Was Stupid*
Nailed it. Still, superinfection does occur. Crosslinking does occur. Recombination does occur. We will never be totally free of viral diseases, as long as we have the bodies we have; for wet chemistry is messy and “Be fruitful and multiply, lest ye be replaced” is the fact of life. The best we can do is minimizing infections and the consequences of the diseases that occur.
FWIW
“Crazy Government Responses to COVID Part 1: Understanding Incentives”
https://coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2021/08/crazy-government-responses-to-covid-part-1-understanding-incentives.html
“Crazy Government Responses to COVID Part 2: Feelz Before Facts”
https://coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2021/08/crazy-government-responses-to-covid-part-2-feelz-before-facts.html
Part 3 coming – “Part two of this series was originally going to be “managing to the wrong metrics,” and we will still get to that topic in part 3. “
Dr Robert Young analysed the vaccines. Remember the inserts are BLANK.
Scanning & Transmission Electron Microscopy Reveals Graphene Oxide in CoV-19 Vaccines (drrobertyoung.com)
Evaluation of Graphene Oxide Induced Cellular Toxicity and Transcriptome Analysis in Human Embryonic Kidney Cells
RE: graphene in blood. Even if the vaccines had some sort of graphene in them, which I highly, seriously doubt, after dilution by the blood, the odd of finding one are pretty damn close to zero.
“Preview to Answering The Big Question, How Do We Fix This Mess?
August 29, 2021 | Sundance | 106 Comments”
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/08/29/preview-to-answering-the-big-question-how-do-we-fix-this-mess/
One would expect that with the booster shot roll out in mass in Israel the serious infection rate among the vaccinated would lower, for a time. For a very short time. And the asymptomatic will increase, while the virus is heavily circulating, greatly increasing mutational pressure.
There is a reason the shots knock up the antibodies so incredibly high, not only are almost 50 percent non neutralizing, but …
“ In vaccinated subjects, antibody titers decreased by up to 40% each subsequent month while in convalescents they decreased by less than 5% per month. Six months after BNT162b2 vaccination 16.1% subjects had antibody levels below the seropositivity threshold of <50 AU/mL, while only 10.8% of convalescent patients were below <50 AU/mL threshold after 9 months from SARS-CoV-2 infection.
In
“In other words the dosing they used, and the original titers, concealed the decay below effective levels which was not being tested for but would have shown up in infections among vaccinated people had the original level been lower.”
In our study, we show that following vaccination, the levels of anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies decrease rapidly, indicating that BMPCs may not be created adequately and therefore anti-SARS-CoV-2 humoral immunity might be transient (Ibarrondo et al., 2020; Seow et al., 2020).
So. If there is little or no B-cell recall then the vaccine is a failure as it cannot stimulate durable immunity at all. That is, the jabs are basically the same (via a different mechanism) to receiving monoclonal antibodies if you get infected; yes, you have an antibody titer but the jabs fail to train your immune system to recognize the infection in the future. As that titer wanes the protection becomes increasingly worthless and, since we know mutational binding changes are occurring the potential for vaccine-caused harm by potentiating infections remains a distinct possibility as that occurs.”
@Jim2:
You doubt that a material found to be a good Vaccine Adjuvant by researches, published as such, and presently known to be in one flu vaccine would be found in a new vaccine? Why? On what basis? That it is new and not yet widely approved? Yet the whole vaccine was EUA due to being new and not yet approved…
Odds of finding it? Depends a lot on size of dose, size / count of sheets, and blood volume vs blood sample. On what grounds do you say “close to zero”?
People have about 5 litres of blood. Call it 5000 ml. Take a 10 ml blood sample, that’s 1/500 chance of getting it if there were only ONE molecule in the blood. But there’s a lot more than that. Several ml of vaccine that, per reports, is only a little bit nanoparticles of mRNA (which makes sense since they ARE “nano” after all and you don’t need trillions of them). Say 5 ml for the shot, and each molecule of graphene (they ARE individual molecules after all…) 1/1000 ml, that gives you 1000 per ml or 5000 total. 1/500 of 5000 is 10 molecules per blood sample drawn, on average.
Doesn’t look like “close to zero” to me. (Assuming their detection apparatus can, in fact, detect graphene).
EMS – First of all, you can’t get 10 ml of blood in an electron microscope, which has the best chance of “seeing” the graphene structure. The odds of running across graphene that way is, well, microscopic.
Also, the ingredients have been published and no one has presented any credible evidence that it’s wrong.
You would not look at the whole blood, I am sure that it would be put through filtering processes first, possibly a centrifuge.
OK, I didn’t see the part where did an extraction of the actual vaccine. I will look into this further when I have time.
@Jim2:
It may be unnecessary to “look into it”…
I was hoping you would present links / papers / something that “sealed the deal” instead of just assertion. When all I had was “assertions”, I went digging on my own. Looking to find out just what adjuvant was used in the Pfizer vaccine.
Well a few dozen pages and links later all I had was assertions that it was NOT Aluminium, that the “full ingredient lists” were full (when clearly they were NOT full as they did not mention water that is clearly in the bottle… unless there’s some other clear liquid that’s 100% biocompatible that is NOT miscible with oil (so the lipid nano-particles don’t self destruct / dissolve…).
Then, finally, landed on this page that answers the adjuvant question:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8032477/
So there is NO adjuvant at all in the Pfizer vaccine and in fact they had to down-regulate the tendency to “self-adjuvant” properties.
Thus zero reason to put ANY adjuvant into the vaccine. Thus any claims of graphene being 90%+ have missed the plot and IF any graphene is found, it ought to be, at most, a minor contamination made in error.
IMHO, that’s the necessary answer.
EMS – you may have missed this: OK, I didn’t see the part where did an extraction of the actual vaccine. I will look into this further when I have time.
“The tipping point is not far away…”
https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2021/08/the-tipping-point-is-not-far-away.html
@Jim2:
I didn’t miss it at all. I was pointing out there is NO adjuvant in the mRNA vaccines.
If there is no adjuvant, how can graphene oxide be added as an adjuvant?…
WEIRD!
Tim Pool
@Timcast
Something bad just went down near Morgantown, WV
A Moderna shipment truck crashed, hazmat dispatched, airspace shut down and now apparently Emergency Response is claiming the Department of Defense took it over
EXCLUSIVE: Emergency Response Says Department of Defense Has Taken Over Vaccine Shipment Crash That…
The West Virginia Center for Threat Preparedness has confirmed to Timcast that the Department of Defense has taken over the case of a truck carrying…
timcast.com
11:45 AM · Aug 30, 2021
LINK
Kinda makes you wonder what in Hades is in those vials….
@Gail:
I’ve seen folks call out the Hazmat Team for a Diesel spill… (when I was in grammar school they janitor sprayed Diesel on the weed to kill them… I’ve washed car parts in Diesel with bare hands…)
So it’s possibly just a bit of hyper over reaction.
It’s also possible that there’s something horrible that can happen if you inhale a few grams of it. (i.e. nobody knows what 400 lbs of mRNA micro lipid delivery systems will do when loose in the air…)
Worth watching / follow up.
“ hazmat dispatched, airspace shut down and now apparently Emergency Response is claiming the Department of Defense took it over”
Hazmat is one thing, but, if accurate, DOD taking over and closing air space? Very odd.
Gails link here
https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/transmission-electron-microscopy-reveals-graphene-oxide-in-cov-19-vaccines
Claims the manufacturer list of ingredients is not complete, and they claim they did the following…
Optical Microscopy, Bright-Field Microscopy, pHase Contrast Microscopy, Dark-Field Microscopy, UV absorbance and Fluorescence Spectroscopy, Scanning Electron Microscopy, Transmission Electron Microscopy, Energy Dispersive Spectroscopy, X-ray Diffractometer, Nuclear Magnetic Resonance.
There report, complete with photos etc, is interesting. So either;
The vaccine manufacturers are lying.
The vaccine testers who made this report are frauds.
Or the vaccine testers are incredibly incompetent
Why was there such a universal reaction. of greatly increased case load after jab introduction?
E.M.Smith says: 31 August 2021 at 2:48 am
Re adjuvants
First of all you have to believe what they are saying about the Vaccines.
Why would you or anybody believe anything they say?
Regarding
“ Deaths seem lower than last spike by a fair amount, infections not so much. Is that due to the vaccine? Or perhaps due to our knowing a hell of a lot more about how to treat the infection, Delta being less prone to kill, and / or, the oldest, most infirm and most likely to die having already died and it takes more than a year to create a new batch of 80 year olds with co-morbitities?”
And one more, natural immunity being higher in both the vaccinated and unvaccinated from prior exposure.
“ Yep, in Israel the unvaccinated who had prior exposure were seven times less likely to get the disease. Seven times!!
Why? “Having had the infection and now having found IgG antibodies by test, they are robustly immune to any and all variants; the immunity built from natural infection is conserved across the various epitopes of the virus in all cases because the “N” portion of the virus, which has to remain more-or-less intact for it to be able to be a virus, forms the backbone and bulk of the immune response built following natural infection.”
In addition natural infection with Covid-19 is sterilizing. Being infected and recovering conserves the nasal and respiratory mucosal response which is where the virus enters the body!
“Natural infection also conveys both “N” (nucleocapsid) and “S” (spike) antibody knowledge and T-cell recognition but the “N” knowledge is much stronger as coronaviruses have evolved to evade the immune system with the “S” portion through millions of years. This is why they can infect you in the first place. The “S” portion undergoes mutation at a quite-rapid rate while the “N” portion is conserved. It was thus expected that prior infection would lead to durable (years to decades) of resistance and indeed that’s exactly what we have found thus far. Indeed in a small study it was found that this recognition extended to the bone marrow in a large percentage of cases and in those people is likely to confer decades-long if not lifetime protection. “
This is not true for “S” induced immunity ( spike proteins) as it wanes rapidly and, far worse that is where the mutation is taking place and thus where escape risk lies.
In addition there is a very significant difference between CD4 and CD8 response between natural infection and the jabs.
You get Covid, and beat it, ( easy to do with the antivirals, proper vitamins and fresh air) you then have broad natural immunity that, thus far, none of the “variants” has demonstrated an ability to evade. Studies show that those with past 2003 exposure to SARS COV 1 ( 80 percent identical to Covid 19) had natural T cell immunity 17 years later.
So which would you rather have?
Broad immunity lasts for a long time and, at least thus far, is good against all the variants or narrow immunity that Delta (and, we must presume, future mutations) will evade and which fades off after six months forcing you to go get another stab with all of its adverse event risks such as heart inflammation, strokes and other clotting disorders?”
I tend to believe this man
https://www.bitchute.com/video/wGKbPz19ju3V/
Take the above video, and then look at VARES data. It may very well be true that VARES significantly under reports, and almost all of the deaths and serious harms are vaccine related.
The vaccines fade very very rapidly.
They may negatively affect natural immunity.
Cases in Israel are higher, as a percentage of vaccinated, across the board of different age groups, for the vaccinated.
I can think of a very long and deadly serious list of reasons to NOT believe the Government, especially todays government. I think it a major mistake to give any credence to their claims and studies. Unbelievably the global governments, many of them complaining about not getting adequate numbers of vaccines, FAILED to test for prior exposure those who had developed natural immunity. It is a 25 dollar test in the US. It’s true cost is incredibly minor. Most nations are likely at least 30 percent naturally immune, thus ALL nations would have reached herd immunity far far faster if only the unexposed got the jab. By not giving the jab to only the unexposed, they are destroying yet another control group, and denying their sacred shot to millions that needed it, if it worked, which it intially does, IF you ignore VARES, and reports like the good Doctor. He has zero reason to lie. He is risking his career by speaking out. If his statements were false, he would have been fired all ready, or charged by the government.
With antivirals and natural immunity, there is zero reason for ANY lockdowns. These people are quite insane. These are the same people that made similar evil crazy decisions in Afghanistan. I do not accept ANY study they sponsor or support, or any figures they produce. They have ZERO credibility.
David A, I’d see zero cred as being a bit generous. Negative cred is more likely.
Still, studies suggest boosters might have broader value. Researchers have shown that boosting induces a prompt surge in antibodies, which are needed in the nose and throat as a crucial first line of defense against infection. The Israeli government’s decision to start boosting those 50 and older was driven by preliminary Ministry of Health data indicating people over age 60 who have received a third dose were half as likely as their twice-vaccinated peers to be hospitalized in recent days, Mevorach says. CHS also reported that out of a sample of more than 4500 patients who received boosters, 88% said any side effects from the third shot were no worse, and sometimes milder, than from the second.
Yet boosters are unlikely to tame a Delta surge on their own, says Dvir Aran, a biomedical data scientist at Technion. In Israel, the current surge is so steep that “even if you get two-thirds of those 60-plus [boosted], it’s just gonna give us another week, maybe 2 weeks until our hospitals are flooded.” He says it’s also critical to vaccinate those who still haven’t received their first or second doses, and to return to the masking and social distancing Israel thought it had left behind—but has begun to reinstate.
Aran’s message for the United States and other wealthier nations considering boosters is stark: “Do not think that the boosters are the solution.”
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/grim-warning-israel-vaccination-blunts-does-not-defeat-delta
Jim, of course booster work initially. The run the counts way above what natural immunity initially does as 1/2 are non neutralizing ( part way to ADE) and then the antibody production falls off a cliff.
“ In vaccinated subjects, antibody titers decreased by up to 40% each subsequent month while in convalescents they decreased by less than 5% per month. Six months after BNT162b2 vaccination 16.1% subjects had antibody levels below the seropositivity threshold of <50 AU/mL, while only 10.8% of convalescent patients were below <50 AU/mL threshold after 9 months from SARS-CoV-2 infection.
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“In other words the dosing they used, and the original titers, concealed the decay below effective levels which was not being tested for but would have shown up in infections among vaccinated people had the original level been lower.”
In our study, we show that following vaccination, the levels of anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies decrease rapidly, indicating that BMPCs may not be created adequately and therefore anti-SARS-CoV-2 humoral immunity might be transient (Ibarrondo et al., 2020; Seow et al., 2020).
So. If there is little or no B-cell recall then the vaccine is a failure as it cannot stimulate durable immunity at all. That is, the jabs are basically the same (via a different mechanism) to receiving monoclonal antibodies if you get infected; yes, you have an antibody titer but the jabs fail to train your immune system to recognize the infection in the future. As that titer wanes the protection becomes increasingly worthless and, since we know mutational binding changes are occurring the potential for vaccine-caused harm by potentiating infections remains a distinct possibility as that occurs.””
The Israeli pattern is happening everywhere as the vaccines age.
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@AC Osborn:
Well, there is that… I guess I’m still not fully acclimated to the notion of “Respected” major corporations lying in scientific literature on “trusted” government research sites…
@David A:
Yes, I liked that video a lot too. Was thinking about transcribing it to text… but a bunch of other stuff came up instead. He points out a few ways things can go wrong that I’d not considered (then again, he is a pathologist so ought to know more). Especially distressing was his statistic on increased endometrial cancer. Up 20 x IIRC! That has to be from a “causal agent” and there’s only one big one wallowing about right now.
Then the point about particular white cell counts being reduced and them being the ones that keep cancer suppressed kind of ices the cake.
BTW, the link with “…” on the end doesn’t work. Either you unicode the “.” or try a copy / paste (though my browser takes it as a search term on the pasting…) In general, any link with a bunch of “…” in it will fail in WordPress who take the first one as a period ending the thing.
The period is: . . (I changed your link to have unicode instead of just … so the link activated the full length, but still 404 error. I think you posted an abbreviated link and it’s missing text indicated by the ellipsis.) More on unicode here:
There are two bits of data that I’m looking for, that are somewhat critical for me:
1) Do you develop “natural immunity” from repeated exposure to low titres of spike or virus from other people when you are on Ivermectin? I.E. am I likely to be developing natural immunity from my year+ of ivermectin + walking around meeting thousands of strangers.
2) IF you have natural immunity THEN get vaccinated: Does the vaccine process diminish your natural immunity? I.E. if you have natural immunity is it a Very Bad Idea to get a subsequent vaccination with a leaky failed “vaccine”?
EMS – as you believe you may have been exposed to COVID, you could get a few antibody tests to see if you have antibodies.
@jim2:
The foundation ( “I believe” ) is weaker than I’d like… but yes, I could. Though being on Kaiser insurance it will not pay for the test and I’d have to figure out who / where / how much etc.
I’m hoping for a free link to a paper… ;-)
Here is a transcript of the Dr. Cole video:
https://www.fulcrum7.com/news/2021/8/19/dr-ryan-cole-discusses-the-vaccine
@Jim2: Thanks! Rather a lot!
No need to feel guilty now and I don’t have to do the transcribing…
Since Dr. Cole, is, well, a doctor; it would have been nice if he supplied references to literature to support his claims. I did find one paper on the spike life time in the blood, but couldn’t find one for the cancer statistic. I had other things to do, so couldn’t investigate further. If anyone has references for the allegations, that would be great.
EM, I am in Kaiser and pushed on an antibody test last week. My Dr gave in and ordered the test.
@Jim2:
Um, my read on the statement about 10 to 20 fold increase in endothelial cancer was that it was NOT a “Paper”, but his statistics from inside his pathology lab. He says he keeps records “year over year” and that in the present 6 months his lab has had that increase.
It is like we used to do in the restaurant: You keep track of what’s selling and what’s not, so you can order more of the right stuff to make it. In his lab, there will be different stains and materials used to do the pathology workup on different tissue types and diseases. You need to spot an emerging epidemic early in the process and stock up accordingly.
Pathology Labs will be the first people to notice this kind of change. Any given doctor may think just “I have A patient with Foo”, but with 30 of them sending samples to the lab, that Lab Pathologist sees it pronto. Then later (a LONG time later) as reports are sent in to various agencies / insurance companies / etc. and processed into reports, then someone looks at the reports and writes up some “paper” it may make it into “the literature”…
EM it’s a 25 dollar test at Some pharmacies to check past exposure.
EM, hopefully this works
Most of those cases are symptomatic, as very few vaccinated asymptomatic get tested.
EMS – given the millions of vaccinations, I would expect the phenomenon to show up in pathology labs all over the country, if not the world. At this point, I will put this data in the noted but unverified bucket.
Jim, true, yet this is why I said place the report next to the VARES data, which is likely understated. As an MD to make such public assertions, if false, ( If his records don’t match his assertions) I would think his license to practice medicine would be threatened.
There are numerous sites where you can watch people all day long telling personal horror stories about post vaccine medical problems, or witnes people having severe reactions or dying.
. I find such reports, while not definitive, more convincing then the CDC and WHO and politicians who have all been mostly wrong on every policy, complete failure to recognize the effective antivirals, and similar failure to come up with any treatments for a long time, telling many to go home until you have trouble breathing, as well as wasting billions of shots on those already exposed, and potentially jeopardizing their natural immunity, causing hundreds of thousand to die who , being DENIED the antivirals, also CANNOT get vaccines, and also attempting to eliminate a natural control group to help evaluate the vaccines. Not to mention the willful threats to the unvaccinated, even if they have seven times better protection, and it is THE vaccinated that are the biggest threat to spreading and mutating the virus.
There is a long list of studies they HAVE NOT done, that would much better inform us of how the vaccine is doing, both positive and negative. Instead they make public proclamations about how 99 percent of all patients are unvaccinated, in affect lying to the public by severe omission, as their Cherry picked dates began before the vaccine rollouts including the large wave of sick and dead before vaccines, and were from the least vaccinated states. ( our government is one big troll that has well earned disdain and distrust. Also many doctors have testified that they are pressured to NOT report negative vaccine reactions.
So I believe a well spoken articulate Doctor, and the thousands of global doctors who support his perspective, over the yahoo’s that have done all the negative stated above, and a whole lot more.
Biden’s Rasmussen approval rating is now as low as Trump’s was at this point in the Presidential 4 years.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/biden_administration/prez_track_sep02
@David A:
I trimmed the stuff after the “?” off and now it displays for you.
BTW, I’m with you on the question of who do you trust in Medicine. Right now any TLA is not in my trust column, nor is any drug company.
@Jim2:
It may well be showing up in pathology labs. How many of them are going out to talk about it? Most Pathology Labs are quiet places where there will be Shop Talk inside the institution but not a lot of public speaking events. It will take time to filter out.
So yeah, mark it for future confirmation.
Per Biden: And sinking fast… Just wait until the head chopping videos start circulating…