This video goes into some depth on the vaccine escape variant “Delta”. It is more contagious, makes folks sicker, infects more young folks, and by the time folks hit the hospital, the treatment protocols are having a harder time fixing things and are starting to fail.
More folks hitting the hospital and that’s causing its own problems.
The “worst scenario” of vaccine escape, as in Marek’s Disease is now happening. Enhancement of the virus for greater damage.
The only good news is that with this thing spreading with such a high R0 and with the vaccinated being easy, nearly symptom free sometimes, spreaders, it will tear through the entire population quickly. Hopely fast enough to get the survivors naturally immune before a new worse variant can pop up. Get us back on a natural path of natural immunity and viral mutation to less lethality.
The Delta variant is pushing some hospitals to their capacities. Front line doctors are reporting that some patients are crashing in the ICU and are unresponsive to the same treatments that were working a few weeks ago. These doctors are pleading for people and doctors to take this variant seriously and to start early treatment upon first symptom onset.
The Delta variant is responsible. Further, we postulate that the mind-blowing “chickenpox like” R-naught of the Delta thought to be between R5 and R9 will make it a rather short-lived phenomenon. It will sweep through the immune-naïve populations it can find and then we’ll get to herd immunity.
Lastly, the UK and Iceland have finally admitted that these vaccine cannot get us to herd immunity.
Follow us to an uncensored Part 2 here:
Supposedly it already has in some countries. The UK and Brazil supposedly went almost straight up, and then straight down. But the tyrants will milk it to keep freedom from being restored.
Singapore has a high vaccination rate and they have a good, detailed report of their COVID status.
3. 580 cases are currently warded in hospital. There are currently 20 cases of serious illness requiring oxygen supplementation, and 5 in critical condition in the ICU. Of those who have fallen very ill, 19 are seniors above 60 years, of whom 11 are completely unvaccinated or partially vaccinated.
4. There is continuing evidence that almost all fully-vaccinated individuals do not suffer serious disease when infected, unless if they had underlying medical conditions that made them more susceptible. Over the last 28 days, the percentage of unvaccinated who became severely ill or died is 7.3%, while that for the fully vaccinated is 1.1%.
Jim, Singapore was late to the vaccinated scene.
“ Between January and May Singapore jabbed just 20% of its people. By June, when Singapore suffered its own outbreak of Delta at a fish port and several karaoke bars, the figure was only 40%. ”
So now with 40 percent vaccinated in the last two months, and most all their population well within the 6 month window, they are fine for now. Yet the early vaccinated will be beginning to fail now. And they will be putting mutation pressure on the virus. Without the use of antivirals the story so far is failure to control.
Just think, if they had tested for Covid exposure, and not vaccinated those, they would have herd immunity.
In short, all those vaccinated are losing 40 percent of their antibodies each month, and without natural immunity, vulnerable to Delta or the next strain.
David A. As long as most people get Delta, whether they know it or not, they will have been inoculated with the Delta variant. If that person is also vaccinated, they will have some immunity against the Alpha one (and maybe some others.) So, it will be more difficult for the Alpha/Delta immune to get a further mutation. If they do, it will be milder disease. The fast-spreading Delta is beneficial, IMO. The spike will be limited in mutations because it must function to get the viral payload into the cell. Like one article said, eventually almost the entire population will be mostly immune. Covid-19 will become a low-level, seasonal disease. For that to happen, a lot of people have to either be vaccinated, get the virus, or both.
Protugal 75% fully vaccinated 85% partially or fully vaccinated. They are doing really well it appears.
Czech Republic has adopted country-wide use of IVM. Their chart is OUTSTANDING!
FWIW, the area around where I live in Nottingham is, according to the local paper, both a “Delta hotspot”, with many immigrants including Indians, and with a high percentage of us un”vaccinated”. So far, by doing no more than I have been doing all through Operation Covid (daily vitamin pill with extra vits C & D, plus zinc supplement and quinine a.k.a. tonic water) the latest iteration of the Virus of Doom has had no more effect on me than its elder brother. I check my temperature daily, always 37 +/- 0.2 Celsius (morning reading). The occasional sneeze, and no more than my usual robust 50-year-smoker’s cough – which, in conjunction with the nicotiney smoke, probably does a fair job of blasting any invaders out anyhow. (Remember, smokers were “under-represented in hospital admissions” at the start of all this). I regularly take 8 – 10 mile walks with no particular fatigue, despite my 70 years.
Despite a history of oversensitivity to respiratory ailments, I continue to look around me in puzzlement as many of those around me lose their heads – soon, no doubt, to blame it all on me for not being “vaccinated” (despite letters from the NHS “offering” it). Long may the status quo continue – apart from the politics, of course, but I can’t do much about that.
jim2 says: 3 September 2021 at 9:05 pm
Do you know when they started using it?
jim2 says: 3 September 2021 at 8:31 pm
Portugal also using Ivermectin.
Jim, I thought the person infected becomes the mutation source ? In which case the vaccines are the perfect set up, as they do not prevent infection, mutation and further spread. There are a couple of pathologies where the vaccinated then infected do not developed normal immunity. We will see, yet we should already know by now as we have tens of thousands that have had both, and can be tracked.
how do they know you have the delta variant versus some other variant? I didn’t think the standard tests, which haven’t been changed as far as I know, could differentiate between the two? I’m pretty sure they have to do a special test or culture to know what you have.
Hope this is the right place. A week or two ago I was discussing the one occasion in the last couple of years when I’d felt that sensation in the throat which you know presages a cold, and how I’d dissolved some Cornish sea salt in lukewarm tap water, then gargled and snorted some up my nose. Went to bed and the symptoms had disappeared in the morning.
Well, I’ve come across this, from Jan. 2019:
“The Edinburgh and Lothians Viral Intervention Study (ELVIS) for short, has discovered that nose drops and gargling with salt water can shorten the average length of a cold virus by almost two days.
The research project run by the University of Edinburgh initially showed last September that NaCL (sodium chloride) inhibited all types of viruses. The prevention of viruses is caused by the chloride component of salt, not the sodium.
The participants in the study displayed a reduction in the overall length of the illness of 1.9 days, as well as a 36 per cent drop in over-the-counter medicine use and a 35 per cent reduction in infection of others in the household.
Dr Sandeep Ramalingam, consultant virologist at the Royal Infirmary of Edinburgh, who led the study, said cells use chloride ions to produce hypochlorous acid (HOCI) which is the active ingredient that is found in bleach.
In effect, cells use the chloride ion to produce bleach to get rid of viral infections – since bleach kills all viruses Dr Ramalingam believes that this will work across the board…”
Bleach, eh?! Remember how the Donald got mocked for that a year later?
You can read the full report here (coincidentally they also used Cornish sea salt – Cornwall is geologically distinct from the rest of the UK, so its sea salt has a wider range of minerals, though I have no idea whether that might be relevant):
ACO – TrialSite was able to touch base again with research Ondrej Halgas with the University of Toronto. Back in late January of this year, we reported that Slovakia was the first EU-based nation to formally authorize the use of ivermectin for both prophylaxis and treatment for COVID-19 patients.
I believe it is a statistical % thing. That in a given area, some small sample of the sample swabs will be sequenced, then they figure out the relative percentages of each in the current community batch.
So if 1000 swabs come in, perhaps 20 get sequenced. Then if it is 18 Delta and 2 Alpha, they say “90% Delta in the community, 10% Alpha as it fades…”
But I could be wrong ;-) It is just a guess based on how I’d do it.
Interesting. My Mum would make a slightly salty (a bit over hypotensive) warm salt solution and have use gargle / snort up the nose, when we were sick. It always felt better and seemed to help. I believe it was a “family remedy” from generations past in England. We had 3 generations of Sailors in HM Merchant Marine that we know of for certain; so it might have been that the only thing Sailors had at sea was salt water…
jim2 says: 4 September 2021 at 1:04 am
Thanks for that.
@Paul, Somerset & E.M. – Distinctly interesting. A friend who shares a house with a number of (mainly) Indians mentioned recently that nostril irrigation + gargle with salt water is a traditional Indian way of keeping the “passages” clear. I shall try it out. The theory that the cells use the chloride to make ‘bleach’ to hammer the opposition is very plausible too. But then, like all animals, we evolved from the sea, so …
I’m just back from walking another 10 mile round trip, out to the postal delivery office to collect my beautiful Bulova Accutron on its return from its latest £250+ repair – now again singing its one-note samba on my wrist where it belongs. Should have been delivered yesterday, but their man couldn’t make it through a gate (with a note on the outside saying “the gate is uncatched”), but instead left a “you were out” card in the mailbox to which the note was stuck. Now a few more miles down to the shop & back. Ah, the joys of the modern world!
Yes EM, definitely an “English” thing as that is what we did as kids 60 years ago.
Also breathed in steam from a bowl of hot water with your head under a towel.
Plus rubbed “Vick” on your chest. and under your nose.
That is also the age of Kaolin Poultices for boils and abscesses, ouch.
It’s worth noting that in the trial the salt water treatment deliberately only commenced when definite symptoms were present. So it’s likely, in my view, that it would be even more effective if used just at that point when you first feel a catch in your throat. Also that results in previous trials using just nasal sprays had been disappointing – the authors suspect that full irrigation of the nose/throat passage is needed. And that coronaviruses featured among those which were successfully treated.
I suspect there’s little point trying to publicize this more widely. There’d just be a trial only on hospitalized patients, when the treatment was too late. Then there’d be a story about someone made ill by drinking salt water, and before you know it the sale of salt would be banned!
Well, that wasn’t just an English/maritime thing back in my youth. My Southern mamma gargled salt water and had us to it for sore throats, etc. Loved Vicks Vaporub and did the hot water in a bowl with a towel over your head thing.
Here’s a confused and confusing article about Delta sub-variants.
Is there any difference between AY.12 and the other strains?
According to INSACOG, it is not known yet whether AY.12 is clinically different from Delta or B.1.617.2.
However, AY.12 has lost some of the mutations seen in the Delta lineage, such as G142D in spike protein. No new mutations of concern are noted in the spike protein of this variant.
AY.12 is, at present, the most dominant strain in Israel — 51 per cent of samples studied have shown the prevalence of this variant. Based on the number of sequences that have so far been uploaded on the GISAID by Indian research groups, the prevalence of this variant over the last week has increased to over 20 per cent.
While asking states to maintain caution and look out for this variant, INSACOG said: “AY.12, a reassigned sub-lineage of Delta is being seen in many states, but the numbers need closer examination. The functional impact of the changes between Delta and AY.12 is not known but the two appear to be very similar at a molecular level.”
“We are hearing from many of our citizens that larger hospital chains and some pharmacies are refusing to prescribe safe and effective therapeutics like hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin,” commissioner Neil Combee wrote, according to Florida news station WFLA.
“When a citizen is facing a potentially life-threatening case of COVID-19, he or she should receive the ‘right to try’ potentially life-saving therapeutics,” he added.
Polk County commissioners are expected to vote on whether to send the letter to the governor on Tuesday.
Ivermectin, an anti-parasitic drug often used on horses and livestock, is not approved to to treat COVID-19.
Dr. Zelenko was prescribing HydroxyChloroQuine and curing folks (in NYC) so the government forbid it. He then did some digging and now has a protocol using OTC Quercetin 1 gm / day divided into 2 x 1/2 gram doses.
Attempting to BAN Biology or Biochemistry is a fools errand. Unfortunately we are well supplied of fools in government and industry…
Just to see about availability, I went to Sprouts (a local Whole Foods wanna-be grocery store) and found a bottle of Quercetin 500 mg WITH Vit-D3 already included. Just add zinc and go… It was $16 for a few hundred capsules.
So in addition to the Ivermectin, I’ve got the Quercetin backup “Plan B” (and the identified Moxidectin as a potential “Plan C” if it comes to that…)
“I self identify as authorized to control and use and treat my own body and mind”…
I remember the Vick’s on the chest and the towel over hot water too…
A lot of Appalachia and The South was populated by Celts from Ireland / Scotland and folks from elsewhere in Britain. I’d expect it arrived that way.
Then again, with the evidence that it is also part of Indian culture, who knows how long it has been around…(Wonder if it is in the Vedas?)
Whenever I visit the ocean, I like to dip a finger in it and taste the salt water… (Hey, I’ve SCUBA dived in it… and yes, I know fish poop in it…) I typically only go to less busy beaches away from cities, so with minimal “outfall” risks. (I’d not do this in any bay hear a major urban area… only rural coastal areas… which matches my general behaviour of not going to major urban areas if I can find any excuse not to go.)
Kind of a ritual returning to the primal ocean thing…
Dear E.M. and other commenters, I believe that all the good numbers from HCQ and Quercetin is when (always) accompanied by zinc. The former are the ionophores that let zinc into the cells; zinc is helpless without the chemical change. It is the zinc that is the virus killer. Also, to be effective it must be used immediately at the first signs of the illness. Otherwise the virus grown exponentially during the first 7 days, supposedly even more virulently with delta or gama mutations. Of couse, ivermectin so far is the premier killer.
One question I have, are these really mutations (of course, mutations are expected) or more virulent on the vaccinated, so called a mutation.
E.M, thanks for your continued attention to the important issues, and thanks to your intelligent commenters for additional information. I am very grateful.
The saline solution nasal spray is available in the US (at least here) as NaSal. If you have sinusitis of any cause, this is often recommended. And yes, in the Heart of Dixie, Vicks Vapo-Rub is, or was, used often.
We have Vicks Vapo-Rub in the UK, and very good too. When I was young, we usually used Mentholatum, almost identical, but (like so many) that badge seems to have been sold on so many times they only make heat rub, freezer spray and so on now. And yes, this oldie has used the old ‘towel over the head’ method in the last few years, still works A1!
Another excellent aromatic head clearer – made in the UK, I’m not sure whether the US has it – is Olbas Oil. Active ingredients: cajuput oil, clove oil, eucalyptus oil, juniper berry oil, levomenthol, methyl salicylate and mint oil (partly dementholised). Quite addictive, and about as good at ‘decongesting’ as Vicks, available in either oil (great for the towel / bowl of hot water treatment, or on a hankie or tissue) or inhaler form. Wouldn’t be without it.
Oh Gawd, I’ve not thought of Mentholatum rub in 1/2 a century… only seen vix in several decades.
Never heard of Olbas Oil… but the ingredients I’ve seen in various things in various combinations.
Yes, the zinc ionophores (Quercetin, HCQ) only work with adequate zinc levels. And as they prevent virus replication then they are useless late in the disease AFTER virus replication had happened.
Per Delta: It has a much heavier shedding profile (especially from vaccinated folks who don’t always have symptoms) so you get a much larger innoculum. Then it is more efficient at entering cells so you get a larger initial infection 2 ways (more sucked in that more effectively infects cells), the upshot being that instead of 5 or 6 days post infection having symptoms, it is more like 3 or 4 days and your immune system is running 2 whole days later in the process, so the exponential has 2 extra days of doubling times… All of which means you need to be doing prophylaxis before exposure or “jump on it” 2 days sooner…
I have an Orange bottle version of this and burned like hell, but kicked things out of me in 2 days not long ago. 3 day limit on usage as it is addictive.
One of the MSM lies about Ivermectin shown for what it is.
It is statement by the actual health authority.
That’s a lot of winter clothes and leafless trees for Oklahoma in September.
“Pfizer Releases Brand New, Never-Before-Seen Drug ‘Pfivermectin’”
“Lies, Damn Lies and Horseshit News”
And an obvious question – did that doctor
“get his picture on the cover of the Rolling Stone”?
“One of the MSM lies about Ivermectin shown for what it is.”
More on that: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/09/fake_news_the_campaign_against_ivermectin_escalates.html
I think it is a case of “we have to take down Joe Rogan” by the Main Shill Media.
Jim2 has it right,
Countries that put their faith in vaccines while banning HCQ & Ivermectin have a terrible record. They let bureaucrats over ride the judgement of front line doctors with disastrous results. Thus the USA, Brazil and most of Europe have death rates of more than 1,000 per million of population in stark contrast to India or Japan:
Uttar Pradesh is the largest Indian state with about 240 million people compared to the USA’s 340 million. Uttar Pradesh suffered a wave Delta variant infections that progressed as follows:
March 18, 250 cases per day……….start of the wave
April 23, 7,000 cases per day……..peak of the wave
June 16, 250 cases per day…………end of the wave
Thus the wave lasted roughly 13 weeks during which time there were a TOTAL of 1,097,292 infections and 13,163 deaths.
Here in the USA the Delta variant has taken a much greater toll:
June 25, 12,600 cases per day…………start of the wave
August 27, 162,000 cases per day…..peak of the wave
September 3, June 154,000 cases per day…………no end in sight
Thus the wave has lasted 10 weeks so far during which time there were a total of 6,127,212 infections and 44,561 deaths. By the time the wave dies out ten to twelve weeks from now you can double both of those numbers.
The CDC and the FDA are run by people who can’t admit their errors. They don’t care how much suffering they cause.
Meanwhile in Uttar Pradesh there were 159 new cases this week compared to our 1,077,271.
While I agree with you about the efficacy of Ivermectin the statistics for the Czech republic are awful:
Czechia, 30,406 deaths, 10.732 million population = 2,833 deaths per million population
Brazil, 583,628 deaths, 214.3 million population = 2,723 deaths per million population
USA, 666,219 deaths, 333.3 million population = 1,999 deaths per million population
India, 440,785 deaths, 1,396.0 million population = 316 deaths per million population
Japan, 16,369 deaths, 126.0 million population = 130 deaths per million population
South Korea, 2,327 deaths, 51.3 million population = 45 deaths per million population
Taiwan (ROC), 837 deaths, 23.1 million population = 36 deaths per million population
China (PRC), 4,848 deaths, 1,445.9 million population = 3 deaths per million population
If the CDC/FDA mandarins are so smart why does the USA lead the world in COVID deaths? India has a six times lower death rate than the USA while the death rate in Japan is 15 times lower.
If our death rate was comparable with Japan’s only 43,000 people would have died instead of 666,000. Over 600,000 avoidable deaths yet nobody has gone to jail or been fired!
We are a nation of sheep led by unaccountable nurse Rachetts.
Uttar Pradesh went strong into Ivermectin.
We will see what happens as we move into the fall. My working hypothesis is the vaccine pattern of inoculation will determine the next wave as vaccine efficacy fails. It fails when antibody numbers fall below a critical threshold. And it fails hard, as 40 percent are lost each month. Thus UCSD with their 18,000 employees had a five month run of plus 90 percent vaccine efficacy, followed by a July plunge of 40 percent, with August numbers expected to be worse.
As long as Hope-Simpson seasonality holds, the true prevalence will fall as local autumn progresses, in the tropical and subtropical areas. It will then rise in the Southern Hemisphere tropical and subtropical areas as their local summer progresses. People need to get out of the mid-latitude mentality for this virus family, versus some others, when talking about the tropics and subtropics. (Hmm, time for the rhinoviruses to pick up, and some others, too; as autumn approaches in the Northern Hemisphere.)
cdquarles says: 6 September 2021 at 2:37 pm
Sorry, I don’t think seasonality nesessarily applies to this virus, I think Variants also apply.
It started in Europe in March 2020, there was a second wave peaking in January for many and then another wave in July.
Where does the July wave fit in to seasonality?
In fact quite a few european countries had an almost pre winter wave and then an intermediate wave in March/April 2021 as well.
Picked up a tidbit from a conversation with someone in the pharmaceutical business. It was said that the CDC would not issue an EUA for an unproven vaccine if there were therapeutics that worked on a pathogen. Could this be why there is so much downplay on the therapeutics that seem to actually be working?
gallopingcamel says: 6 September 2021 at 4:02 am
While I agree with you about the efficacy of Ivermectin the statistics for the Czech republic are awful:
Czechia is a very special case, they started early with home made masks and had one of the best controlled first wave in Europe.
However because it was so good they relaxed everything in the summer.
The next wave around October was big, they had switched from HCQ to Remdesivir, which as we now know can lead to bad outcomes on it’s own due to organ failure.
They also then started a vaccination progamme, which like many seemed to create a storm of cases.
For a classic example look at Vietnam.
Remember to look at sun exposure when addressing seasonality. Places with seasonal low Vit-D will have seasonal illness too. But places with lots of folks in the sun, not so much (India… vs N. Europe).
“Uttar Pradesh went strong into Ivermectin.”
I heard (trialsitenews I think) that the WHO claimed a big victory there but failed to mention that IVM was involved.
BTW, I have not heard of any follow ups to IVM successes. What I want to know is whether in places where Covid was rampant and then went back to lower levels, for the people who did not become a Covid case, did they get exposed and get immunity? In particular, did the people using IVM, did they get Covid antibodies and immunity?
For corona viruses, the epidemic season for the mid-latitudes (Europe) would be the local winter and spring. For the tropics and subtropics, the local summer (either wet or dry season, depending on other local factors). Variant strains should still follow the family seasonality, though seeding will alter that, somewhat. This is one reason why I am skeptical of the local reporting from late 2020. Last summer and this summer’s reporting fit the known seasonality pattern.
Australian lady with Nurse mom working at assisted care home “speaks” out.
It is a common belief that “anecdote” does not equal “data”. That is only as true as the honesty, interpretive ability, and reliability of the observer. In theory, scientist are specially trained to be good observers, hence the usual distinction between anecdote and data. In the real world? Let’s just say that there are exceptions…
Ossqss says: 6 September 2021 at 3:12 pm
Yes, but it is not a case of “would not” it is a case of “can’t legally”, but I think it is the FDA that does the issueing.
IMO: “Anecdote” is just the singular of “data” and “data” are just plural anecdotes. The question of quality of observer applies in all cases…
“A grim explanation for the official campaign against HCQ and Ivermectin”
@another ian: “A grim explanation for the official campaign against HCQ and Ivermectin”
Grim, yes… Sadly, not unexpected. $$$$$$$
If we have some sort of Nuremburg trials there will b a LOT of people in the dock, and most of them will be Doctors. Oh, well… they were “only following orders.”
I am currently reading a book on the trial of Nazi official Adolf Eichmann. His defense? “I didn’t really want the Jews dead. All I did was arrange transportation to the units that killed them. Why? Because I was ordered to.”
Big Pharma no idea
“Vaccine Failure and the Way Out
As with the vaccine roll-out, the stage was set for everybody to say that they had defeated Corona, fold up shop and go home. This is, you will note, exactly what China did. They tightened official testing criteria, declared the pandemic over with and never looked back. Western countries, though, kept the ball in the air all summer long, just as they are keeping the ball in the air now.
Until now, Corona policy in every western country has unfolded more or less according to the same script, devised by the World Health Organization at the end of February 2020. The final act was supposed to be the wide-scale eradication of Corona after mass vaccination. It is now clear that this will never happen. For the first time since March 2020, there is no obvious international consensus on the way forward.
Looks like more reading there too
Israel is tanking … again …
@another ian: “The final act was supposed to be the wide-scale eradication of Corona after mass vaccination. It is now clear that this will never happen.”
The final act of the invasion of Afghanistan was supposed to be the wide-scale eradication of terrorists after mass military attack. It is now clear that this will never happen.
Why fix a wonderfully profitable problem, one that gives you more and more money and power the longer you keep it going?
Military-Industrial Complex. Government-Big Pharma Complex.
Now this on “vaccines” – not good for the “needley confidant”
“From JAMA: Proof They’re AT BEST Worthless”
And re the one above and China as mentioned there – just heard about the shipping delay problems currently being caused in China
Nothing technical, just a bit of simple commentary on the jab vs un-jab decision, sent to me by an acquaintance:
(I do my best to stay away from all things Facebook. Gotta go wash my hands now…)
Attempts to open the link to inspect it gave me a “must log in” message. It DOES display in the page (above). On the off chance it, too, will evaporate, I’m doing a copy / paste of the text here (for posterity…)
Photo of guy in scrubs covered in blood spatter omitted…
@EM, I just clicked on the “see more” and it all appeared below the image.
Yes, that’s how I got a copy. I typically “click the link” in the comments management page or “copy paste” a link that doesn’t open via a click; that fails. Any attempt to directly access it via the link, gave me a “please log in” message.
So it only works via the posting.
Since I don’t know why that is or what is causing it, or if that will fail due to some minor change at WordPress or Facebook at some future time, I clicked the “see more” and did a copy / paste as insurance.
@EM: Thanks, EM! You are excellent at unscrewing the inscrutable. I found it refreshing to read a rational essay by a non-medical, non-political, non-scientist. :)
For anyone interested, here is a newer interview with Dr. Robert Malone. He speaks against the imposition of universal vaccination. I think the last 20 minutes are the most interesting. He speaks about the possibilities of ADE, the quality of data, and on possible motivations for the complete and continuing lack of prudent or even logical decisions (what he calls “a profound paradox”) on how to react to COVID. (Hint… $$$)
“One Flu Out Of The Wuhan Nest”
And another Fauci connection
“It appears, does it not, that Fauci lied. Both he and his wife, Christine Grady, who chairs bioethics at the NIH and who “conveniently” has been ignored by the media and everyone else, and who, it must be presumed, any grant proposals would have to go through and be approved by, ought to be in irons right now.”
One heck of a good rant (via the SDA link from Another Ian above):
Aaaand a link from that link… Ethics Professor loses her job over practicing the Ethics she teaches…
FWIW, I’m likely to lose my present job over the same thing. I’ve not yet inspected the paper, but I’ve been given a form to fill out about vaccine mandates to work in a medical facility…
For me, it’s not a big deal. I’m mostly doing this to “Help out a friend” when his I.T. guy retired. It is part time, and I don’t need the job. Yet I’m looking right at the mandate.
No, I won’t go down the path of irreversible immune system training to a partial spike protein with a vaccine that is already (now) shown to NOT prevent infection and NOT prevent transmission and IS shown to select for more aggressive “variants”. Maybe it reduces disease severity when a vaccinated person becomes infected, or maybe we just need another month and another 40% drop in neutralizing antibodies so that the non-neutralizing antibodies can effect Antibody Dependent Enhancement ADE and start killing people… And only time can tell. I have self-selected into the “Control Group” and unlike Pfizer, I won’t throw away the control group in this experiment.
You either have courage or you don’t. You either follow your convictions or you don’t. I’ve dealt with a lot of Aggressive Bullies in my life, and the folks pushing this vexxine set off all my warning bells about Aggressive Bullies. They impress me as Sociopathic Manipulators lacking scruples. So in answer to her question of “Who?”, I answer that I’d certainly not trust them.
I’d rather be alive, happy, healthy, and true to my beliefs, than not. I will not surrender myself to the dictates of inferior human beings.
@E.M. – Ditto!
I am open to a vaccine of some sort, but it will have to be a d@mn far, far sight better than the current offerings.
Despite all of the attempts at suppression, I’m satisfied that Ivermectin is a very good preventative, and if I get too big of a snootful of the Omega variant ;), I can up the dose and just have a survivable case of the flu. We shall see.
Paranoid Step Too Far, or Prescient Prognostication? Would take a lot more time to Dig Here! through all his pointers to vet them all. OTOH, what I do already know of the background does fit his statements. Some bits, though, are a bit OTT stretched. Like calling it a “Simulation”. Yes, computer simulations are done to get molecular fit data ( I don’t know of any other way to get it really as we can’t handle single molecules and hand fit them…). Insisting on calling it “not a vaccine” when really it is just playing with definitions that The Left does all the time. (I’m not condoning it as I hate playing definition games… but calling out one doesn’t make it a giant crime against humanity…)
I do think there’s plenty of room in The Facts for various mixtures and ranges of Nobel Cause Corruption, Fraud, Greed, Normal Business Practices and more. Sorting it A LOT needs doing.
But if even 1/2 of his assertions are proved up, it’s damning. Basically saying the whole pandemic is a Plandemic for weaponized viruses and weaponized vaccines for the purposes of greed and power. I generally don’t lean that way. However… I don’t see any proof to the contrary either.
Seems like IVM for internal use in animals has disappeared from the market in Oz this week.
“The Ronacoaster, Once You Get in the Vaccine Car You Ain’t Getting Off Until The Ride’s Over
September 8, 2021 | Sundance | 117 Comments”
16 minute video of a doctor examining consequences of Remdesivir usage in treating COVID patients. Well worth watching, but bottom line: many deaths (30%? 40?%?) of COVID patients were the predictable result of using Remdesivir, not from the virus.
@TTN – And just who has a stake in Remdesivir? Hmmmmm……???
I don’t want to get you, E.M., or this blog in trouble, but let’s just say my moment of sorrow would be very, very brief if FauXi were to trip on his own shoelaces while visiting that mile high overlook of the Grand Canyon.
@EM: ” Basically saying the whole pandemic is a Plandemic for weaponized viruses and weaponized vaccines for the purposes of greed and power. ”
I think he is right. This has been in the works for years. Think back… How long have we been seeing “anti-vaxxers” demonized without any substantive discussion of the facts? How long have we seen odd clusterings of virologists, epidemiologists, and biochemists dying in peculiar circumstances? It looks like to me like setting up a situation where people are more likely to accept an experimental shot.
One more quick comment. Everyone knows “supply and demand”. Supply goes up cost goes down. Supply goes down, cost goes up. But that is only half of the relationship. Demand goes up, cost goes up. Demand goes down, cost goes down. If I were a psychopath who wanted cost to go down so I could buy up almost ANYTHING I WANTED, one very productive method would to be to reduce demand. The easiest way to reduce demand? Well… dead people don’t demand much.
Anyone think that a bunch of psychopaths would NEVER commit mass murder? Really? How’s that prohibition of Ivermectin coming along? How many people are dead because of that? Is there a fundamental difference between the man who would murder 100,000 compared to the man who would murder 1,000,000?
Well, in the mode of increasing paranoia and escalating panic… How about asking Michael Yeadon to tell us what he really thinks?
If it were anyone less qualified than him, I’ll call it a bit too far into paranoia land… OTOH, he knows this stuff better than I ever will (and I’m not too shabby at it…)
Among other things that raised an eyebrow is his assertion that the “Variants” are NOT escaping immunity, that’s just a scare tactic. His evidence is interesting. Seems they are a fractional percent different… OK… and there was a test done on those who had the original Sars-1 infection. Not only did they have lifelong immunity, they also had an immune response to SARS-2 that is 20% different… So (at least for natural immunity) variants are not very important.
He also asserts that a “top up” or “booster” shot makes no sense and the only thing he can see that does make sense is as a depopulation ploy. I’d dispute that a little in that we now know neutralizing antibodies decay at 40% / month and a booster gets them back up to effective levels for a few more months. (Of course, that could just be a delay of onset of ADE until more jabs are done so then the plug can be pulled… so it could be “both”…)
Still, for someone of his caliber to be thinking, basically, ~’WT? this is nuts…’ makes me feel a little less nuts ;-)
“Is there a fundamental difference between the man who would murder 100,000 compared to the man who would murder 1,000,000?”
Yes, their rank… 100,000 is a General. 1M to 30 M is Dear Leader…
@EM: “Yes, their rank… 100,000 is a General. 1M to 30 M is Dear Leader…”
I see you have been ratcheting up your cynicism! (I’m not saying you are wrong to do so, either!) There does seem to be a connection to Big Leaders and Big Death Count. I never could understand why in school all the “greatest Presidents” were the ones who failed to keep us out of wars. I always liked Grover Cleveland… Not too much destruction on his shift.
I am reminded of this cartoon I saw:
On the other hand, try as you might to stay out of wars; they still can be brought to you. That is one reason why “Peace through Strength” works, but you have to show willingness to use that strength. Ours is a fallen world. Human nature is prone to evil. Power lust (which gets you money) is but one form of the evil.
@TTN re Grover Cleveland – Wasn’t he the President who installed the first bathtub in the Whitehouse?
If that’s all he did, well then good on Ol’ Grover. That means there were four years of “UNinteresting Times.”
Talk about your “clean politician” ;-)
More new coming on unvaxxd prejudice mandates from our Pretendsident tomorrow.
@HR “Wasn’t he the President who installed the first bathtub in the Whitehouse?”
I don’t think that was him. Cleveland served two non-consecutive terms in the last part of the 19th century. He was defeated after his first term but then reelected 4 years later. One reason why I like Cleveland is that he vetoed more bills than any other President for the very peculiar reason that the US Constitution did not authorize expenditures of that nature.
In 1887, Cleveland issued his most well-known veto, that of the Texas Seed Bill. After a drought had ruined crops in several Texas counties, Congress appropriated $100,000 (equivalent to $2,880,370 in 2020) to purchase seed grain for farmers there. Cleveland vetoed the expenditure. In his veto message, he espoused a theory of limited government:
“I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution, and I do not believe that the power and duty of the general government ought to be extended to the relief of individual suffering which is in no manner properly related to the public service or benefit. A prevalent tendency to disregard the limited mission of this power and duty should, I think, be steadfastly resisted, to the end that the lesson should be constantly enforced that, though the people support the government, the government should not support the people. The friendliness and charity of our countrymen can always be relied upon to relieve their fellow-citizens in misfortune. This has been repeatedly and quite lately demonstrated. Federal aid in such cases encourages the expectation of paternal care on the part of the government and weakens the sturdiness of our national character, while it prevents the indulgence among our people of that kindly sentiment and conduct which strengthens the bonds of a common brotherhood.”
I am reminded of the Davy Crockett story, “Not Yours To Give”.
They make rules, we evade them… Hey, it can make for a fun game. After all, where’s the challenge of “beer on the beach” ;-) Having a resistance game is good for my Passive Aggressive nature ;-)
If “the rules” become too draconian and / or impossible to evade, then will be time for Diplomacy (i.e. elections and voting) or if the Elections continue to be “Fraud Faux Election Theatre”, then I suppose it will become “Diplomacy by other means” for some…
FWIW, we are already doing “Contingency Planning” for getting to Florida. Basic plan has things like “Spouse flies in after home sells” and I drive out with dogs. Contingencies?
IFF Flight Ban for unvexxed happens, but starts a month from now, Spouse flies out on first flight we can book (car already in Florida for her, pre-positioned many weeks ago). I hire movers to move everything into storage and load up car with dogs and hit the road. Hand keys to house to Realtor and say “Fix and sell, send money”.
IFF Flight Ban hits by surprise: We buy an RV, stuff goes via movers to storage, keys to realtor, we hit the road, with the dogs, towing car.
IFF some idiot thinks they can do “Border Checks” between States and we’ve not bugged out before they get it rolling (unlikely, but who knows…) then I’ve already studied my map books and have several “alternative” State Line crossing for each state. Some down to dirt roads… so would change the type of RV…
Frankly, I think I’d really like to have a big jeep or even a Humvee with a rugged tow behind tent trailer. Spouse doesn’t want one (Class A girl…) but IF I’m given an excuse ;-)
Then, the “Ultimate Fallback”:
Spouse is in Florida, house to realtor, cars being shipped via a car hauler, I can’t fly and I can’t cross State Lines due to, say, National Guard on every goat trail? No Problem. I buy a nice 40 foot or so Single Hander rigged boat, and sail to Florida. Me, to port authority: “Yup, just going out for a bit of a sail”…. then just point it toward Mexico… At Florida “Yup, I’ve been sailing for months. Restrictions you say? Well, not heard of those, but I’m a Florida resident. Spouse is at this address, our home, and here’s my Florida ID…” But I’m pretty sure the Free State Of Florida would not be an issue… FWIW, my “Captain” with needed training and papers is already prepped… so I likely would not need to single hand it, but makes it easier when one person is asleep. He’s vaccinated so could do any “going ashore” stuff needed.
Do I think anything close to that will happen? Nope, not at all. Am I ready if it does? Oh yeah…
Viva la resistance! (God it would be fun to play this game out… I find myself hoping my Sunset Years are spent as a Captain of the Resistance, by sea or land… Is there a name for that state where you really really really want the other guy to take a swing at you?…)
Interesting article regarding danger of substituting codons in the vaccine created spike proteins.
I have not yet watched the entire video.
“One key take-home from the Nature Reviews Drug Discovery article5 cited above is that replacing rare codons “must be used judiciously,” as rarer codons can have slower translation rates and a slowed-down rate is actually necessary to prevent protein misfolding.
The spike protein is the toxic part of the virus responsible for the most unique effects of the virus, such as the blood clotting disorders, neurological problems and heart damage. To expect the COVID shot to not produce these kinds of effects would be rather naïve.
A (adenine) and U (uracil) in the third position are rare, and the COVID shots replace these A’s and U’s with G’s (guanine) or C’s (cytosine). According to Seneff, this switch results in a 1,000-fold greater amount of spike protein compared to being infected with the actual virus.
What could go wrong? Well, just about anything. Again, the shot induces spike protein at levels unheard of in nature (even if SARS-CoV-2 is a “souped up” manmade concoction), and the spike protein is the toxic part of the virus responsible for the most unique effects of the virus, such as the blood clotting disorders, neurological problems and heart damage.
So, to expect the COVID shot to not produce these kinds of effects would be rather naïve. The codon switches might also result in protein misfolding, which is equally bad news. “
There’s an interesting article entitled “Resolving “Long-Haul COVID” and Vaccine Toxicity: Neutralizing the Spike Protein” here:
From June, but he is a doctor. Vit C, IVM, HCQ, quercetin etc all get honorable mention (or: “we’re pretty much on the right path here” ;-)
From that link, another one that asserts independent replication of spike protein:
It think that bit needs a bit of a Dig Here! to find the original research on that, if any. I don’t know of any separate “replicate protein” mechanism, but there’s a lot still to learn about how cells work. Still, my initial response is “Maybe they missed something about mRNA longevity or some kind of reverse transcriptase making longer lived DNA…”
Orthomolecular medicine is a form of alternative medicine that aims to maintain human health through nutritional supplementation. The concept builds on the idea of an optimal nutritional environment in the body and suggests that diseases reflect deficiencies in this environment. Treatment for disease, according to this view, involves attempts to correct “imbalances or deficiencies based on individual biochemistry” by use of substances such as vitamins, minerals, amino acids, trace elements and fatty acids. The notions behind orthomolecular medicine are not supported by sound medical evidence, and the therapy is not effective; even the validity of calling the orthomolecular approach a form of medicine has been questioned since the 1970s.
Don’t know if your ‘cite’ of Wiki was as “authority” or as “snark” but…
Note that a LOT of diseases are cured by fixing “imbalances or deficiencies based on individual biochemistry”… so the conclusion that it’s a bit “bunk” is itself bunk.
A PARTIAL list:
Scurvy, rickets, beri-beri, spina bifida (prevention via maternal B vitamins), cold sores (personal experience with topical vit-C), likely Heart Disease and plaque (many articles about a year back posted here), Diabetes type 2, hypoglycemia, hypertension, night blindness, anemia, goiter, low appetite, brittle bones, bad teeth & bones, excess bleeding, a variety of skin issues (Vit-A), some conjunctivitis, hypocobaliminemia, pellegra, some parasthesia, photophobia, osteomalacia, various skin rashes and cracking, various anemias and muscle weakness, reduced brain size (iodine deficiency and / or omega-3 deficiency and / or severe iron deficiency), Mg deficiency can cause: nausea, vomiting, hair loss, poor wound healing, weakness, fatigue, abnormal heart rhythm; similarly Zinc but including loss of sense of smell and taste, and a whole lot more.
And that’s without even getting into the problems caused by too MUCH of various nutrients and individual variations. Like my spouse who gets kidney stones so we must prevent oxalate in her diet and she is NOT to take excess Vit-C. Yes, kidney stones can be a metabolic disease caused by the food you eat.
So, IMHO, the very FIRST thing an M.D. ought to check is nutritional status (this can be as simple as a quick blood test and / or just asking “What did you have for meals the last 2 days?” as a gross guide. (That is, if the answer is “Toast & Sugar Pops, A jam sandwich and coke, and then we had KFC with biscuits & gravy for dinner” you know you have a problem. Not enough fiber, plant vitamins, minerals like iodine, etc. Similarly if it is “Vegan rice w/vegan oat milk, a vegan cress sandwich, and for dinner, a vegan Tofurkey with cous-cous that’s another whole set of defficiences from Vit-B12 to C to Omega-3 fatty acids and more).
IF you have not made sure the basic metabolism is provisioned and operating as expected the rest of your “search for the cause” is problematic.
Do I think it can cure cancer or set a broken leg? Nope (though maybe prevent some of them). But if all you do is look for physical trauma, bacteria & viruses: You will miss a whole lot of what is wrong with a person.
Oh, and then there’s the whole laundry list of diseases caused by folks having different genetics and / or mutations that are known to be a problem with, or without, certain foods. A couple that are well known are different “adaptations in progress” of humans to malaria. Sickle Cell Anemia and Favism. Some Jews & Middle Eastern folks can’t eat Fava Beans or the have major issues from increased oxidative stress. There’s a lot more.
Oh, and that also is ignoring the issue of individual immune reactions to specific foods. I get arthritic hands if I eat a lot of “cow stuff” or tomato products. I’m pretty much fine if I don’t (and focus more on fish, Asian cooking in general). My M.D. thought I ought to take aspirin and come back when it got worse…
At least the Orthomolecular Medicine folks are paying attention to that stuff.
Personally, I’d consider it a “specialty” inside standard western medicine. Like pediatrics or podiatry. Just these folks look at metabolism and its inputs.
EMS – posted for what it’s worth context. Of course there is a place for nutrition in Western medicine – it’s there already.
I do see claims that OM can cure cancer. This can be a real problem if someone turns to them when it might be curable otherwise.
Given that cancer is a syndrome that has multiple causes and some of the effects are immune system related, saying orthomolecular medicine will cure cancer is a major stretch; though it will help some with specific deficiencies or specific developmental anomalies in their metabolism. Some people have aspects of their metabolism that increase toxicity of chemicals extant in nature (and again, there is no chemical man can make that the rest of nature can’t; and some seem to have magical thinking when it comes to chemicals). That said to bolster jim2’s point.
I know a lady who has a major aversion to “chemicals.” As a chemist, I found that pretty amusing. It is accurate to say, just about everything on Earth is a chemical or made of chemicals. Elements are considered by chemists to be chemicals. Molecules are chemicals. Plasmas, dark energy, dark matter (if those exist), and elementary particles excepted.
Given that “cancer” is a zoo of different diseases, I’d not be surprised to find that Orthomolecular Medicine could cure one or the other of them as they span such a wide range.
OTOH, IF I had a melanoma, I’m going to the skin surgeon…
I’m more convinced that it has a shot at reducing the prevalence or preventing some cancers. I could see, for example, being more virus resistant as reducing the number of virus induced cancers, or in general just having the immune system working well being good at killing off cancers just starting out. (One of the complaints about the vaccine is that it shifts the white blood cell types in a direction prone to reducing innate cancer suppression…)
I just don’t like dissing someone or some field of study when it does have some good bits in it. Like Chiropractic, vilified for decades by M.D.s. Yes, any claim of “cures cancer” on their part is likely daft. OTOH, when I’ve got a nerve pinched by a joint they can fix it, the M.D. gives me aspirin and sends me home. (Had that with sciatica… now gone ;-)
Basically, I’m interested in a much more fine grained Dissing ;-) (“A pox on both their houses, but a very finely focused one!” ;-)
I wasn’t dissing, just giving context to the article.
Yes, as a (former) chemist I too am bemused. I used to point out that their food and body were composed of chemicals. It was never well received, and usually not believed.
A little anecdote:
While working in a suger refinery we had a delegation from the new Head Rabbi inspecting the process. As the Production Manager was leading the walk around the site, one of the group, who’d been there before, took him to one side and suggested that when they got to the decolourising process he shouldn’t emphasis that it used bone char (which was the method years ago). He took the hint and at the end of the tour a pallet load of refined sugar received the Official Kosher stamp.
We started processing with raw sugar, but some people didn’t want that “refined muck”. So every so often I got to drive the front end loader into the piles of raw sugar, and as the surface was almost like concrete, this involved rotating the bucket and charging the pile, like an old fashioned knight going at a dragon. The broken lumps could then be scooped up and dumped on the Shaker conveyor. This had a double screen, the courser top one screened out the really hard lumps of sugar, the dead rats and pigeons. The second screened out the rat and pigeon poo. The free flowing raw sugar was then packed into 20kg. hessian sacks and delivered (on the back of trucks) to Health Stores, where it was repacked into small paper bags and sold at anything from 4 times upwards of the buying cost. There was quite a big market for this “healthy” version, so much so that the suger company installed a plant in one of their sugarmills. Freshly made raw sugar was fed into stainless steel equipment (regularly steam cleaned) and washed with steam, dried and automatically packed into plastic bags. No dead rats, pigeons, detritus from shipping or contact with conveyor belts or concrete floors.
It wasn’t well received “it lacked the real goodness”! AH! the good old days!
My favorite “Chemical” exception is “Organic”… I have to make a mental note every time someone says they only eat “organic” that they are not saying the eat a salt free diet… Salt being the only inorganic food I know of…
I’ve also, finally, gotten to the point where I internally translate “chemical allergy” to “synthetic dies, fragrances, and maybe pesticide allergy”…
As a kid, we visited the Arkansas relatives. Slept in a cockroach infested room. Got up in the morning, helped milk the cow, sieved out the flies with a dish cloth, and had it for breakfast. I lived through it after all, but wouldn’t want to do that on a regular basis.
I just saw Biden tell the USA an outright lie. He said the vaccine is safe and has FDA approval. The variant of the vaccine codenamed “Cominarty” has FDA approval, but that’s not the one being delivered into arms, and has not been mass-produced.
That sleight of hand again….
It always cracks me up to hear someone say we should only be eating organic foods.
I usually get a bit snarky and say something along the lines of, “I tried that and it didn’t agree with me, so now I only eat inorganic foods.” Theme and variations on that depending on the circumstances.
What amazes me is that, present company and peers in my age group excepted, anyone under about ummmm… 30 – 35 doesn’t get it.
I do like the term “processed foods.” That tells me I’m not getting just a can of pork and beans, but that I’ll have 10 minutes of heavy reading ahead of me as I read the list of ingredients on the label, some of which are only found in this galaxy.
A lady I’d known from university days was diagnosed with ovarian cancer three years ago, and received chemotherapy. I went to visit her, and discovered she was vegetarian. My first thought was that chemo often causes anaemia, and her vegetarianism was not going to help with that. But I’m not medically trained, and it was clear from her commitment to vegetarianism that if I’d mentioned my concern, she would not have welcomed it or acted on it. So I said nothing. I didn’t want to cause any bad feeling in the circumstances.
Last year she died in her sleep of heart failure. Would anaemia, and the lack of oxygen-bearing red blood cells have contributed to that? I can’t say for sure, but perhaps an orthomolecular approach to her illness, alongside the mainstream chemotherapy, would have encouraged her to get some bioavailable iron from meat into her diet, and maybe helped avert her heart failure.
The line has been crossed tonight. OSHA vaxx mandates for small business?
The SHTF time has arrived folks.
Without knowing more, Mr. Paul, it is hard to say. Could anemia have contributed to heart failure? Certainly. Did it? I cannot tell from the information given, and you might not have been given enough to say more.
Are you saying OSHA will give you a fail if your employees (and owner?) are not vexxed enough?
NYT says it’s a 100 person cut-off:
As the NYT has a policy of something like “3 a month free then zero” I’m quoting the whole thing here so folks don’t need to “burn one” to read it:
Looks like a SHTF moment for a lot of people, to me.
Interesting twist here:
IF Vexxine is mandated by an employer, then any “Adverse Event” becomes a reportable work related injury. This means Worker Comp Claims, increased insurance costs, some companies put out of business (can your small shop stand a $1 to $10 Million wrongful death claim and will the insurance company drop you or raise rates catastrophically?…)
But at least we might start getting some decent data…
Also has a “foo free” policy so quoting a lot more than I wanted to:
This is the point where we find out if Average Americans will HOLD!
I always thought that song was radically hyped up, but it sure views differently to me now days.