## Hook for Conspriacy Conjecture, Sandy

Life has a way of sending you down unexpected back alleys. One minute, you are firing along on the main street, 4 lanes each way, the whole world makes sense. Traffic cops are just traffic copes and the people on the sidewalk are just shopping. Those 3 gray cars behind you just an accident of lots of folks liking gray and the light being dim enough you can’t tell that one of them is really ‘seafoam’ and not gray…

Then some how you end up diverted into a side street, that has a traffic jam, so you turn onto a sort of an alley and then you find yourself in a strange part of town on not-quite a street. Surrounded by people eying your looks and your ride with a “Like what brought your sorry ass down here?” and you are wondering that too. You start to think you really just want the next freeway onramp, to anywhere, but don’t know where it is.

Sometime you even stop to get directions and pick up a soda or coffee. Occasionally you try the local “dive” for lunch and find the people not really all that bizarre after all. Soon you are wondering if maybe you ought to stay a while and see what these folks do every day? Then you notice the two big guys on the other side if the street as one points at your car… Time to go…

Mostly good, some a bit less so.

Now they mostly happen in a metaphorical way.

Tonight was one of them.

### The Friend Of Conspiracy

So the spouse hands me a scrap of paper and says “One of the people I know asked me to ask you to watch this and tell her what you think of it.” Which really means tell the spouse who will tell something slightly different to the “friend of a friend”.

The scrap says: “Youtube Sandy Hook Shooting Exposed” and is supposed to be “about a half hour” per verbal guidance. So I go off to pick some random youtube that looks close and hope it’s the one they mean… About now I’m also wondering why I’ve turned down this small winding dark street just because the spouse said someone not in the car once turned down a street near here and wanted my opinion of small dark winding streets… Didn’t I have somewhere I was supposed to be going? How many levels removed ought one just “blow off”? Like an Erdős Number, or perhaps more accurately like an Erdős-Bacon number, ought one have a point where they say “Your Chiefio-number is too large, to far removed; your request is outside acceptance bands”. Does having a “Spousal Number” automatically over ride that? Even if the Spousal-Number is 2 or 3? Can a friend of a friend of the spouse get priority and send you down that winding dark road? How about a friend of a friend of a friend of the spouse?

Such are the things I think as I notice people putting odds bits of trash in old metal cans and setting them afire next to the road… as they look at the car and the contents passing by and I wonder if they wonder if my clothes fit and how long a good tire can keep the cold away when fed to a burn barrel… Once: I ‘took the wrong exit’ from the freeway in New York and ended up driving through part of Jamaica New York at just past dusk. Then, the place looked semi-bombed out. Some buildings a rubble pile. Folks starting fires in the occasional ‘oil drum’ like metal drum. The essentially all black population looking at this glow-in-the-dark white face driving by. A bit further down, 2 blocks? 4?, some folks were playing with an old tired kick-ball outside some run down housing. I committed the insane act (or so I was told by richer white folks later) of stopping, rolling down the window (as they moved out of the playground / street ) and saying “Hey, I took the wrong exit off the freeway. Trying to get to {wherever it was}. Can you tell me where the on ramp is?” Delivered with my usual smile and my general attitude of “I think you are an OK person.” Many semi-concerned faces got nice smiles. Someone or other said “No problem. Two blocks up an’ one over, make it a left up the ramp.” I said something like “Great! Thanks! Enjoy your game.” and headed off.

I’m wondering where the onramp is from where I ended up tonight.

### The Videos

I have no idea the veracity of these things.

There are all kinds of conspiracy theories on the web. ANYTHING can be done with video and photoshop to make any visual you want. Just a question of time and talent. Folks get paid for videos that go viral. The result is a lot of crap. Alien spacecraft shown flying over The City and who knows what all else. Some quite good. (Though fake). But I’m committed to watching due to the power of the Chiefio-spouse number.

So I’m noticing that the one that I think is the one in question has some things that actually are a bit problematic. Was the part where the ‘little girl’ shot at Sandy Hook who is then shown in a photo op with the President really an accidental exposure of the conspiracy / fraud? Or just some other blond kid and a photoshopped dress? No way to know without a full on forensic analysis and access to the original materials. Was the part where the Dad comes in laughing then ‘enters character’ of sadness and concern prior to “his shot” evidence of an actor entering character; or just a person having a momentary happy emotion at being in the presence of important people and being picked to be ‘on the news’, reentering reality and letting his loss overtake him again?

For each “Conspiracy Theory” point, there is a “Rational Alternative”. Take the coroner who is, er, “quirky”. Evidence of bad acting? Or just that folks who spend their lives getting a medical degree so they can then cut up dead bodies all day are, well, a little Quirky (or even more than a little…) Were the web pages with creation dates “same day” due to friends “doing what they knew how to do” as soon as they heard (rather than shadowy actions of non-grieving non-parents), and were web pages set up the day before, perhaps just a mis-set clock on the server, or even just an artifact of another time zone? (Unlikely since they are so close to GMT, so much of the world is running later, not earlier).

Yet there are two points that are quite clear.

1) There are some rather strange “loose ends” here. Things that don’t “fit”. ‘Why’ is another matter, and might be innocent. (Or might be manufactured; so that whole fact checking / vetting thing would need to be done.)

2) A lot of folks are so completely alienated by the present government that they are quite willing to entertain the notion of an entirely staged mass-murder “for effect”.

Heck I even find myself thinking “I have no reason to think our government would not do this as a manufactured crisis ‘for effect’.” That was not true 5, 10, or 15 years back. I’d have just flushed the whole idea on the face of it. Now? Now there is no reason to assume there is no conspiracy. Agenda 21 proves that there is a conspiracy (though they don’t call it that. It is called “coordination” instead… Another of those irregular English verbs:

I coordinate, you collaborate, they conspire ;-)
Or in the case of Government Agencies ‘He Chairs the committee’…

Similarly the Climategate emails, the FOIA-2011 releases, the EPA-Gate fake email accounts. Folks are conspiring all over the place these days, openly at times. Sure, it is called collaboration, coordination, or just ‘working together’ or ‘getting grants’ / ‘giving grants’. It’s all just legal forms of conspiracy. That is why police like “conspiracy to do FOO” laws so much. More conspiracy is done, and prosecuted, than most anything else. It isn’t a theory if they are doing it; and we know a lot of it gets done.

So given “never let a crisis to to waste” it is a very short stroll over to “manufacture a crisis as needed”. The thing that surprised me was how many folks some of these videos had that watched them, and how many videos there were. Large chunks of the world culture are clearly quite willing to embrace the Conspiracy Conjecture. (‘Conjecture’ as it isn’t even a hypothesis, never mind a thesis or theory. “Hypo” meaning ‘below’ or ‘less than’ a thesis. Theory being generally accepted as true.)

So I’m feeling like I can embrace the Conspiracy Conjecture enough to investigate, but I can’t swallow the Conspiracy Theory angle.

Yet the videos have things in them I can’t explain. Too many folks ‘wiping a tear’ from dry eyes. Laughing until ‘on camera’ to a camera that was already on. A photo that sure looks like ‘the wrong dead girl’ quite alive on Obama’s knee…

Something is wrong. I just don’t know if it is the state of our government, or the conspiracy conjecture videos being faked. In any case, there are interesting puzzlements.

This one is about 1/2 hour and I think it was the one I was supposed to look at:

They make a lot of hay out of ‘discrepancies’ that could just be folks making errors. Like saying someone was in the front of a police car that might have been the back, or the usual confusion at the start of an event where the facts are never correct (in my personal experience with the news).

It is also surprising how much time some folks put into this stuff. One guy wandered through a particular set of photo albums online and did face matches. How many families did they have to go through to find that one?

They make a big deal out of the rifle being left in the car and the coroner (prior to doing any autopsies) saying the shooting was done with a rifle. Maybe it’s just hard to tell in the field and the guy guessed wrong when on camera.

Some bits much harder to dismiss. The shooter’s mom being both a teacher at the school and not a teacher. The out of place girl on the Presidential lap. The “odd” way the crime scene is managed. One I noticed is a surprising lack of colored cars in the lot. A heck of a lot of white, gray, dark. Not so much yellow, red (other than fire / ambulance), green, purple, etc. Now maybe a lot of them are the undercover cops and such who rushed to the scene, but there still ought to be more color. Unless the people there are very different from Californians. We have far fewer “standard sedans” in dull “municipal” colors.

At the very end, about 27 minutes, they find web sites with creation dates prior to the event as “memorials”…

Typically at events like this some police are assigned to keep access open, especially for the medical folks. This scene does have a much more staged look, or out of control look. Lousy police control? Staged? Police just a bit shocked, too, so: late in the process not caring much?

So there are a lot of ‘non-fit’ things here. But people are lousy at giving a good eye witness account. Leaping from inconsistent stories and confusion to a grand conspiracy is a bit more than I can do. Yet the guy at 14 minutes really has trouble keeping a strait story and a believable one? At 15-16 minutes there is a good case that the parents of the newly dead child are looking way too cheery. Yet in another clip I found what they were saying. It was ‘remembering things she liked’. Are these maybe just folks who’ve accepted death long ago, so having it be personalized isn’t that much of a leap? I’ve been accused of “not enough” or inappropriate emotional display. Some of us are that way. I can put on a very strong suppression of strong negative events and “be normal” for periods, leaving the crying for “me time”. Not everyone is slave to their emotional state.

Yet the number of folks acting that way just seems wrong. There is an overall ‘artificial’ feeling to the whole thing. Curious. Then again, with about 1/3 the population on drugs of one kind or another, who knows how drugged up these folks were on anti-depressant feel good pills.

In this one, at about 2 minutes, even with the resolution turned up high, we have a dramatic tear wiped from what looks like a dry eye.

This one is about 13 minutes of off the deep end conspiracy theory talk, but the video of the cars and lots (repeated) is rather good. Much easier to see the ‘non-random’ nature of the distribution of car types.

This one, the guy is all about folks looking way too happy and fake about the whole thing. Does seem odd that so many folks were filmed and they didn’t have folks losing it. Starting about 2:30 in to it we have the “Two Smiling Parents” talking about their dead daughter, but you can get the words. Some folks DO have a ‘wake’ attitude, celebrate the life, not mourn the death. But I don’t think I could be that collected that quick (and I’m pretty darned collected…) At 10:30 for a bit we have the ‘cry faced’ person doing ‘sniffs’, but sniffs are from tears being dumped into the nose. (There is a little duct in the lower eyelid to drain tears to the nose.) Yet there are no tears… perhaps higher resolution might show them? Yet not even a glitter of reflected light.

Then he goes off a conspiracy deep end about an owl…

This guy thinks the “owl” in the dollar bill is just the background pattern overlay artifact.
I agree:

http://edj.net/think/dollarowl.html

I also find the narrator saying “Fake actors were used” annoying. IFF it was a put up job, then they were “REAL Actors”, not fake actors… Real actors making a fake persona. Then toward the end he goes into a Manchurian Candidate hypnosis and shooters bit.

Then there is this guy. Really has a Kaczinski In The Cabin look ;-) but also make an interesting point of it all; at about 2 minutes.

Then there is this guy spending 15 minutes showing a bunch of folks in some family look a whole lot like folks from the event. Then again, folks of similar minority genetics often look similar. That he’s picked out the Jews to pick on doesn’t sit well with me either. OTOH, it’s a more genetically closed community in some ways so more likely to have folks with a similar ‘look’. (While various sub populations are quite different, inside individual groups, they often lived in the same areas for a long time in the past.)

Fun to see the family album, anyway.

This one does 2 minutes on a single person. High res and slow advance; there are a lot of detail matches, even things like neck and eye wrinkles and tooth shape / positions (made harder by different exposure of tooth length with different smile depths).

Spooky close if they are not the same. Yet I’ve had my mother tell me that my cousin looked just like me, so ‘it happens’.

Then this one has the “cop in charge” having participated in a crisis training drill, so clearly he could have staged one. OK, and I guess anyone who trains for nuclear preparation could start a nuclear war too?…

But their point that ‘the infrastructure for making a fake does exist’ is pretty clear. Just the deeper meaning is a bit sparse ;-)

In many ways, this guy is my favorite. No video embeds, no technical details. Just he looks at it and rants that the folks are just looking way too plastic. Wonder how many ‘pasty white folks of means’ neighborhoods he’s been in? ;-)

It’s also nice to see that “Conspiracy Theorist” can apply to a ‘person of color’ too. ;-)

I was beginning to think it was another “white man’s disease”…

Then this guy goes all geek-wonky and finds a page on Google put up 3 days prior to the event. A United Way page. One wonders if United Way creates a blank page from time to time and then ‘filled them in’ if an event happens? An interesting date dis-connect, but the frame can be built prior to populating it. Then goes on into the ‘wrong kid on the lap’ image.

### In Conclusion

All in all, while some of the folks in the links are a bit strange, it’s an interesting winding back road to visit. Still, I find myself wondering how I got here, and why, and just where is that on ramp to the freeway back to mainstream civilization…

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### 59 Responses to Hook for Conspriacy Conjecture, Sandy

1. R. de Haan says:

If you want answer, a real answer, listen to Rand Paul and what he has to say about Obama.

2. Richard Ilfeld says:

Hey folks, get off of U-tube and smell the roses. The Government did try to create a “Sandy Hook”. It was called Fast and Furious. Buy guns ‘legally’ in US. “Walk” said guns to Mexico, and give to bad folk. Wait until said folk cross border and shoot someone. Assume local law enforcement will solve crime (cause we didn’t bother to track the guns).
Oh Dear!!! US guns went to Mexico and came back and Killed people.

The only question for me was where in the progressive chain of command this wet-dream originated, but not why it happened.

Note also that if you get caught with your hand in this cookie jar, you can administratively sanction a few underlings and protect the others with executive cover-up …er privilege. Not so with Dead Kids.

Next on the Progressive zealots list …. fail a fracking well somewhere.

3. Mike Havron says:

I am reminded of JFK, OJ, Vince Foster . . .

4. BobN says:

Trust the government? No More.
Every where you look you can see lies and half truths from the government. Look at Benghazi, it seems that we were running guns to the middle east, its even tied to the Syrian rebels. The state department knows nothing, the CIA is unclear and the press tries to ignore it.
The EPA is out of control. Are they dead set on saving the environment or just more power grab.
We all know the list of government over reach, with their lies as to why.

The sad part is that I no longer believe anything the government says and that in itself upsetting. After a while of seeing the daily government abuse, anything starts to seem possible.

5. E.M.Smith says:

@Richard Ilfeld:

Good point. I’d not connected that to this. (An artifact of how I mentally file things. “Foreign / police & military” are a different “bucket” from ‘domestic shooting’). Yet they clearly ARE linked.

So we have an ‘existence proof’ of this administration creating a fraudulent gun crisis “for effect” in the “gun walking”…. At some subconscious level I think that had led me to be more willing to entertain the more fringe ideas; while as a conscious point, well, it is just such a fabrication of a crisis ‘for effect’…

@BobN:

I’m in about the same boat. Just very annoyed that I can no longer extend the ‘benefit of the doubt’ to our government. Too many demonstrated shady deals and things done for political slant and advantage; too little moral compass.

@R. de Haan:

Yet more video to watch… I really do need a 30 hour day… ;-)

@All:

I’d noticed that the Kaczinski like guy video link was missing, so found it again and put it back in.

6. Gary says:

The X-files made it true: Trust no one. Anybody can be Rod Serling. Fact and fantasy blend so easily and Kanheman’s System I rules too many minds. OTOH, maybe the tendency to believe conspiracy theories is proportional to the amount of information – both fact and speculation – that’s readily available. Irrational belief could be up just because total information is up.

7. p.g.sharrow says:

If you really dig into the Obamanation your head will explode. There is an international effort to bring down the US that has been going on for over 50 years. Barack is just one actor in this great effort. I have known of this effort since the mid 1970s, when I read a small news article about the first attempt to create “The One”. It failed. Many of the seers of the past 2000 years have warned about this one. They also say that this effort will, in the end, Fail.
“The Great Deceiver” will lead a great part of the world astray for a while. 7 years he will be on the world stage. As he loses popularity he will begin to rule by decree. Then he will vanish from the record of man to be replaced by a wise old man that sets humanity on the “right path.” During the time of “the Wise Old Man” humanity will receive Two gifts, a new power source and an electric space drive. These will cause a better understanding of the nature of atomic physics and psychic phenomena.
So far we are on scheduled, I don’t know who the “wise Old Man” is, The prophesie say he is hidden or unknown for his protection from the evil ones. So he will spring up in a very short time. Oh yes,the war with the Islam-o-nazies is an important part of the Obamanation and will end during the transition. pg

8. John Robertson says:

Once trust is lost???
Once the institutional people breach trust, by lying,go unpunished then any criminal behaviour is possible.
I hope the apparent increase in crowd shootings is coincidence.

@ E.M. Fly south, right now!….tomorrow will be too late…did you see those cars with folks dress in black, following you?

10. R. de Haan says:

Second GOP Congressman calls for Obama impeachment http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/16/second-gop-congressman-suggests-impeachment-over-executive-action-for-gun-control/
Gov. Perry disgusted by Obama: http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/18060/

Looks like a cosy start of the year to me.

11. sabretoothed says:

Bit weird how the other gunman was found in the forest in full camo outfit. What happened to him. And where is the shooters Brother now? Still in Custody?

And where is Adam’s life for the last 2 years?

http://worldtruth.tv/10-facts-that-proof-sandy-hook-shooting-was-a-hoax/

Obama using old techniques though

12. p.g.sharrow says:

While the dam has a few leaks, the flood is a while off. Wait until Democrats and the MSM start demanding his scalp. They are starting to get restless as he promises much and actually delivers very little to his adoring fans. You can not fool all the people all the time. pg

13. John F. Hultquist says:

I didn’t make it through the intro to this post before being spooked. I too have seen those side streets, strange parts of towns, wrong exits, where’s the ramp, burn barrels, and – how about an auto radiator (in the car) being used as a condenser for a still. Time to go.

I like R. de Haan’s perspective:
“Looks like a cozy start of the year to me.”

14. Gail Combs says:

I also was going to bring up Fast and Furious.

In the last decade I have gone from considering the US government as basically good to considering it selfish/evil. For example the 100 yr run of the Federal Reserve Act with the Fractional Reserve slowly reduced to basically zero, bank bailouts, Obama’s mortgage trap to help bankers foreclose on even more property, the deliberate poisoning of Americans to scare them into supporting the WTO Food”Safety” law. I have written of them over at WUWT.

However I never mentioned that I put together some information a couple years ago on a ‘False Flag’ op possibility BEFORE Fast n’ Furious made the news. (Too Conspiracy theoryish)

You can start with the Patriot Act and the wish to make it stronger and more permanent.

Then follow Janet Napolitano actions. (Links are old and may not work)

Washington (CNN) — The terrorist threat to the U.S. homeland has continued to “evolve” and may now “be at its most heightened state” since the September 11, 2001, terror attacks, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano told members of Congress on Wednesday.

There is an increased reliance on recruiting Westerners into terrorist organizations, she told the House Homeland Security Committee. State and local law enforcement officers are increasingly needed to combat terror, and the focus must be on aiding law enforcement to help them secure communities she said…. http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/02/09/terror.threat/index.html?hpt=T2

So there is the bait. The story that puts into everyone’s mind Americans are being recruited and communities need to be ‘secured’ against a ‘threat’

Now look at not what Napolitano SAYS but what she does. (Remember Westerners also include latin Americans)

Here is the reality on the Mexican border: (I do not blame the ordinary Mexican who was forced off his farm by NAFTA and left to starve BTW)

September 24, 2009 Administration Will Cut Border Patrol Deployed on U.S-Mexico Border –
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/54514
Even though the Border Patrol now reports that almost 1,300 miles of the U.S.-Mexico border is not under effective control, and the Department of Justice says that vast stretches of the border are “easily breached,” and the [b]Government Accountability Office has revealed that three persons “linked to terrorism” and 530 aliens from “special interest countries” were intercepted at Border Patrol checkpoints last year, the administration is nonetheless now planning to decrease the number of Border Patrol agents deployed on the U.S.-Mexico border….

….the Obama administration on May 7 said the Border Patrol “plans to move several hundred Agents from the Southwest Border

February 21, 2010

Local Officials: Border Crime On The Rise – January 6, 2011 PINAL COUNTY, Ariz.
Authorities in Pinal County dispute the Federal Government’s assertion that the Arizona border with Mexico is more secure than ever…. Tim Gaffney said that Director of Homeland Security Janet Napaolitano’s statements that crimes related to immigration and drug smuggling issues are down is just not true.The numbers county officials provided in the release seem to back up Gaffney’s stance. The Pinal County Sheriff’s Office said it has seen a “dramatic” increase in vehicle pursuits, drug seizures and calls to U.S. Border Patrol agents to help deal with illegal immigrants.
http://borderissues.us/2011/01/06/officials-border-crime-on-the-rise/

Three of the four border states are losing their National Guard troops (Obama Admin sending them overseas)

January 03, 2011 – Are Legalized Civilian Militia Groups the Answer to Arizona’s Border Security Problems?
Special Guest: Arizona State Rep.-elect Jack Harper

…. Jack, in 2007, you passed legislation to create a state-sanctioned militia here in Arizona. The then-governor, Napolitano, vetoed it….

HARPER: Well, you might have heard that three of the four border states are losing their National Guard troops now. And Arizona is supposed to lose the federally funded National Guard troops in June or July. Well, [we’re going to get crushed once the National Guard’s off the border because ….. these forces in Mexico that smuggle illegal aliens and drugs into our country, they’re more considered with the National Guard than they are Border Patrol. Border Patrol’s … under Janet Napolitano, and that’s not really an intimidating factor.

But a military uniformed person on the border makes a lot more sense. Now, using the Homeland Security Force volunteers to observe the border and the National Guard to react to incursions across our border is something that we’re going to explore,..

The first bill, though, to establish the Homeland Security Force, I believe I’m going to have bipartisan support again. And I don’t know that …. Governor Brewer will be opposed to that, like Governor Napolitano was….

So it is not like Napolitano when she was govenor wasn’t well aware of the problems. And she acts to make sure US citizens do not put any ‘kinks’ in her plans

While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen — and telling the Mexican government where they are.
http://www.dailybulletin.com/news/ci_3799653

Mexican Government Threatens Minutemen Over Civilian Border Patrols – October 2008

Minutemen say corrupt, heartless government drives Mexican citizens from home….

The government of Mexico yesterday issued a threat of legal action against the Minuteman Civil Defense Corp…

According to the U.S. State Department, the Mexican government has a long and sordid history of human rights violations and corruption that continues today.

The Minutemen do not blame Mexican nationals for wanting to live and work in the United States, said Chris Simcox, President of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. “Our grievance is with the corrupt Mexican government and the oligarchs in power there who are callously shifting the responsibility of their impoverished population to the United States taxpayer through ineffectual border control efforts.”

Simcox continued, “The border policies of the Mexican and United States governments have created a tragic and dangerous situation for citizens of both countries. Each year hundreds of Mexican and other nationals die a horrible death as they traverse desert wilderness attempting to illegally enter the United States. Among the sea of humanity that moves across the open borders every day, terrorists are free to walk across the border unchecked with chemical, biological and even nuclear materials. This is an unacceptable level of national security risk in a post-9/11 world”….
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/10/prweb293087.htm

Then there is the Border Fence

To his right stands a steel wall, 20 feet high and reinforced by cement-filled steel piping. To his left another tall fence of steel mesh. Ten yards beyond, a shorter cyclone fence is topped with jagged concertina wire….

“This wall works,” says Mr. Bernacke. “A lot of people have the misconception that it is a waste of time and money, but the numbers of apprehensions show that it works.”

The triple-and double-layered fence here in Yuma is the kind of barrier that US lawmakers – and most Americans – imagined when the Secure Fence Act was enacted in 2006.

The law instructed the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to secure about one-third of the 1,950-mile border between US and Mexico with 700 miles of double-layered fencing – and additionally through cameras, motion sensors, and other types of barriers – by the end of the year to stem illegal immigration.

Bankrolled by a separate \$1.2 billion homeland security bill, the Secure Fence Act would, President Bush said in 2006, “make our borders more secure.” …

That is what we were promised

This is Napolitano’s actions:

…Ms. Napolitano attempts to justify to lawmakers a 30 percent budget reduction for U.S. Customs and Border Protection…March 17, 2010
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/17/napolitano-shifts-policy-on-mexico-border-fence/

Napolitano Cancels Virtual Border Fence Project..1/14/2011

Signaling a major shift from her predecessor, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano on Tuesday said she will spend \$50 million of stimulus funds originally intended to build a “virtual fence” along the 2,000-mile U.S.-Mexico border on other more proven and cost-effective security technology.

The Patriot Act mentions the Canadian border but DOES NOT mention the Mexican Border.

I ran across a couple of articles on how to set a false flag attack and how it has been done before
Days of Infamy
I have know idea if anything in that essay is true but the formula, as shown in the article is:

The first stage is to aggravate, literally to goad them until they had no choice but to strike back

The second prong of the strategy is to insulate. Keep the victims (that’s us) from getting the information needed to protect themselves.

The third and final stage is to Facilitate the attack:make it easy by offering no opposition.

These stages are certainly what I see Napolitano doing especially when you add in Fast ‘n Furious.

So do I think the US government would stage a shoot-up of a school? Yes, since they have gotten millions of our young men and women killed in various wars just so certain individuals can make \$\$\$ off war. War is NEVER profitable for a country unless they can claim land and resources to offset the cost. However war IS profitable for certain individuals, the bankers who loan the money and their buddies who build weapons. The USA going from isolationist to war monger coincided with the passage of the Federal Reserve Act on December 23 1913 and WWI in Europe began on 28 July 1914.

The USA has been sinking deeper and deeper in debt ever since mainly thanks to an endless series of wars that enrich no one but the bankers.

15. E.M.Smith says:

I found that a couple of the videos where I had “pasted in the link” didn’t have the link. I’ve put them back in.

No, not a strange thing. Due to the way WordPress tries to ‘fix up’ broken HTML it sometimes just deletes HTML that is mal formed or just when it gets confused. About every other posting I get to “un-fix-up” something it fixed-up wrongly…

At any rate, the “photo album guy” is now back in. As is the Kaczinski lookalike guy.

@John F. Hultquist:

Some of the times I’ve enjoyed the most were times on a wrong street. Leaving the tourist areas in Jamaica and talking with some folks on ‘the other beach’. Going into a “Mexican dance hall” where ‘white guys’ usually avoided it. (Not a ‘rough’ one, just a regular old public hall rented out for a weekend Mexican theme dance. In my old home town.) Hitting a “Romanch” bar in Zurich: As I was an alien in any of the languages, didn’t matter to me that this was a ‘working class’ bar in a minor language. I was able to order a beer and soak up the place.

Frankly, I’ve felt more threatened and less accepted in meetings where people had V.P. in their title. Not physically threatened, but not all things that matter are physical.

So now I don’t mind the odd trip to ‘the other side’. I’ve got “something” that tells folks pretty quickly “Hey, I accept you as you. I’m just a guy too.” and we’re pretty quick having a beer and talking. One ‘interesting one’ was an evening street corner in San Jose. I was parked in one place for an event, but went walking toward another place. Library at SJSU or some such. Along the way was caught by a long light on a ‘rough corner’. A ‘lady of the evening’ at the same corner looking nervously at what I took to be either a rough guy or an undercover cop on the other ‘kity-corner’ far corner. We ‘had a couple of words’ that was mostly me saying “If it helps, you can walk across the street with me. As far as you like, but then I’m going to {the library}.” Or wherever it was. I got a genuine smile and a “No, thank you though, I’m OK.” Something about just treating her as a ‘regular person’ non-judgmentally and caring. We ‘connected’ person to person.

Kind of a “Dundee” moment. Minus the funny hat and vest ;-)

Fast Money covering the German gold move from NYC to Germany… back in a bit.

16. BobN says:

@EM – Connecting to people outside your normal group can be interesting. I was living in Colorado and stopped for a Burger and Beer after my Saturday Morning Racquetball game. There were a couple of “bad” looking bikers there and we had a very pleasant conversation. When they were leaving they had a Keg to take to a party and were having trouble loading it on their bikes. I offered to throw it in my trunk and away we went. I dropped it off and they gave me a beer and we started playing volleyball, it was a nice afternoon with a bunch of nice chaps. Then in the late afternoon the women showed up and the dynamics started changing fast. My “spider” senses told me to beat feet out of there. I got home and remember thinking how people were just people and you can’t judge a book by its cover, blah blah, blah. I wake up the next morning and the lead story was about a shooting and stabbing at a biker party, you guessed it, the same nice guys of the previous afternoon.
Many things are not as they seem, people eventually revert to their true nature, caution is always best. Connections are possible but they are typically brief for a reason.

I know I’m off thread here, but I couldn’t help myself, EM’s comment triggered a memory.

@P.G. Quite a prophecy….let´s buy more popcorn. It´s just a matter of changing frequencies. It´s the law of “zapping” !!!, somebody got bored with the show and decided to press the channel change button… LOL! :-)

18. Power Grab says:

Re the taking down of the US since the 1970’s…

Would you say that the drug culture was introduced as a way of neutralizing whatever portion of the population (promising young people???) would succumb to that temptation? It has been looking to me like many of the addictive elements of current American culture are very useful in minimizing competition for the spots at the top. In other words, if you can get enough “promising young people” to ruin their lives with booze/drugs/gambling/immorality/violence/online games, then they can either become your pawns (if you deal in such things), or just so much flotsam and jetsam in the seas of life. They will not be a threat to the powerful elite if they can be reduced to producing nothing more significant than static with their lives.

During my first year in college, I had occasion to visit a different (much larger) campus with a friend. I wanted to look something up in the library; but nothing I needed was there. That’s beside the point. My friend wanted to spend some in a record shop. While we were in there, I saw a former classmate from high school. She was one of the shining stars of my class. It turned out that she had also graduated a year early, as I did. When I greeted her and called her by name, she turned to me and said “Hi” but her eyes were vacant, and her level of grooming was way below what she had always practiced in high school. There was no recognition in her eyes. I thought it was a real shame that she had apparently fallen prey to the drug culture. In fact, i heard that the year after I graduated, my previous hometown (my family moved after I graduated) had become something of a hub for drugs. :-(

I think I mentioned recently watching a television show about how a man was selected to be hypnotized and induced to act out the “assassination” of a supposed VIP who was a “bad man”. it was all staged, and the gun he fired was loaded with blanks. But it totally looked real. The man who carried out the act did not really remember much. They finally came clean and told him about how he was set up; that the person he “shot” was not hurt, and they brought him in to prove he was alive. If that doesn’t make you wonder about whether any of these shootings have been set up, then what will?

Hey, i just had a thought: What if the new proposed database of everyone who has mental issues and/or has firearms is actually just a resource for the hidden PTB that want to stage lots of similar incidents? Haven’t all these recent crowd shooters been people who had documented mental issues? Just sayin’…

Well, I guess that last comment reveals that I’ve spent some time pondering conspiracy theories a bit, doesn’t it? I knew a guy for several years who spent a huge amount of time digging into such things. I always had a hard time hearing about them because they seemed so contrived and unlikely. However, this was back in the days before Bill Clinton was elected. The Democrats had not even had their convention yet and it was anybody’s game. My buddy told me that his sources had predicted that this former governor from Arkansas (I had never heard of Clinton before) would be the next POTUS. I scoffed. But it happened. It sure made me think.

19. BobN says:

Going to a psychiatrist will get your name entered in the book of mentally disturbed and unsuitable for a gun. The gun issue will slow people down from getting help.
The Veterans already claim that mentioning mental problems puts them on a government list. Don’t know this for a fact, just something I heard.

20. E.M.Smith says:

@BobN:

I know I would never go to a shrink at this point. (Aside from just questioning their ability to do anything that really matters and not particularly thinking that being drugged up so you don’t notice your troubles is all that great an idea…)

As The Government will now be privy to all medical records (medical privacy? what medical privacy?) I’m likely to not go to a doctor for all sorts of treatments. ANYTHING that could be used against you, I will be trying “DIY” methods first.

@PowerGrab:

The communists had a specific list of “things to do” that included, IIRC, getting kids on drugs, attack and take down of religion, destruction of the currency, break up of the nuclear family, and a couple of others. “So far so good” I can imagine them saying…

@BobN:

Didn’t look all that ‘off thread’ to me ;-)

Yes, knowing when to discretely exit is very important…

Duty Pagers were the first gift, now it’s the cell phone. Just pull it out, look at it, and say “Sorry, gotta run, kid is in trouble.” ;-) (Later the ‘trouble’ can be anything from ‘stuck on a math problem’ to ‘car wouldn’t start’ to whatever…)

21. Jason Calley says:

@ Power Grab ” My buddy told me that his sources had predicted that this former governor from Arkansas (I had never heard of Clinton before) would be the next POTUS.”

I had a similar experience. While I do not live in Arkansas I have some ties to the state, and back about 1990 I started hearing stories that the then-President Bush was involved in trafficking drugs through Arkansas as a method of financing various off the book projects. Governor Clinton of Arkansas was mentioned as his partner in crime. That was the first time I had even heard of Governor Clinton. Two years later when Bush ran for re-election, who on earth should be running against him but the unknown dark horse candidate, the Governor of Arkansas! Nice set up, and often done in political circles. Run both candidates from both parties. Whoever loses, you still win. As Lenin said, “the best way to control the opposition is to BE the opposition.”

Obama was a little different. I first heard of him during the 2004 Democratic Convention when he gave a keynote speech. I was surprised and puzzled by the extraordinary level of adulation heaped on him by various commentators and spokesmen. Here was a guy with no history to speak of and who had never held national office, and yet he was presented as a great politician destined to lead. Just too over the top, just too fishy in the extreme treatment by the media. I told my wife, “Watch out for this guy. He is being sold to the public. He is being groomed to move into prominence.”

High level politics is theater. It is a well rehearsed script designed to trigger suspension of disbelief the same way a movie, or more accurately, a WWF wrestling match is. Democrat and Republican candidates are just two wrestling teams put up as opposing forces, acting parts to make the masses cheer and pay up. You gotta keep the cattle from panicking as you herd them into the slaughter house.

22. sabretoothed says:

What about all the sites created before it actually happened, how does that work? http://www.examiner.com/article/sandy-hook-hoax-is-falling-apart

lol

http://www.naturalnews.com/038737_gun_control_homeowner_rescue.html

23. EJ says:

Wow,

Watched the first video. I curse you Mr. Smith for enticing me to turn down an alley, much like some others I get suckered into sometimes.

A couple comments. First, many people have been convicted of murder with the combination of circumstantial evidence and the “inappropriate display of emotion” that those parents exhibited.

Second, I too noticed the video of the autos assembled on site. It looks like there are groupings of colors. The Men In Black appear to be there in full force, with all there black suv’s, all parked together. I didn’t see one local or state patrol car. They would be first on the scene?

The online stuff, I am at a loss to know what is true and what isn’t.

EJ

24. EJ says:

I forgot one other thing that bugged me. I didn’t see any hugs!

25. EJ says:

I have come to a conclusion. I think we need to teach our kid’s classrooms how to attack any intruder. Whether it is in the hall, on the grounds or in the classroom Teach them awareness, self defense and tactics. Push desks at the bad guy while you run away. Throw things at the attacker, books, sharp pencils, compasses, staplers and paper punches are perfect could hurt and distract.

Most kids would love to know how to gang up to beat up a bad guy.

I don’t think cowering in a corner is a safer choice.

I am old enough now to be able to risk my life without regret for the right circumstance. We need to elevate teachers to public servants who will risk their life for their kids in class.

Teach the teacher. Send her to boot camp, assign a military consultant to the school, create training programs for the kids, teachers and staff on how to attack an intruder if need be.

I have never been trained, but I would think that for a single attacker, no matter how many guns, the best way to nuetralize him is for the unarmed masses, a whole school of several hundred kids, several men and women rush him.

Who would be killed standing up to the assasin?

The heros.

26. Peter Offenhartz says:

To paraphrase H,L, Mencken, “No one ever went broke underestimating the gullibility of the American people,” It is astonishing what people will believe (if they really really want to).

27. sabretoothed says:

http://www.secretsofthefed.com/sandy-hook-mystery-man-identified-man-arrested-in-woods-behind-school-was-swat-officer/

The mysterious man shown being pursued by the police after the Sandy Hook shooting in this video has been ‘identified’ as an off-duty AND ARMED tactical squad police officer from another Connecticut district, according to the Newtown Bee.:
A man with a gun who was spotted in the woods near the school on the day of the incident was an off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town, according to the source.
This development brings up more questions than it answers: why was a SWAT team officer armed with a gun in the vicinity of the Newtown shooting PRIOR to the shooting AND WHY is he running away from the shooting as A COWARD would do, instead of running in to the school seeing that he was armed with a gun?

28. M Simon says:

I’m generally very calm until the crisis is well past. Then I break down. The first mate is glad. She almost always loses it at once and depends on me ordering her around to get us out of a jam.

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You really ought to look into “Chiang Kai-shek drugs” to see how far back it all goes. If you want to go farther look at “China clipper drugs”. Or the first international convention against drugs. And this one will be a shocker – Lyndon LaRouche was right about the Queen of England. Yeah. I don’t trust him much either or his motives. Or his cult. But I have cross checked.

Nothing is what it seems. I prefer to avoid looking too deep in order to keep my sanity. It is a Wilderness of Mirrors.

29. M Simon says:

Another good one. “Rudi Dekkers 9/11”

30. M Simon says:

“During the time of “the Wise Old Man” humanity will receive Two gifts, a new power source and an electric space drive. ”

Polywell Fusion fits to a T. I’m deep into it. Very deep. I moderate Talk-Polywell.

31. M Simon says:

“Would you say that the drug culture was introduced as a way of neutralizing whatever portion of the population (promising young people???) would succumb to that temptation?”

You can’t get addicted to drugs. What you can get is chronic medication for chronic pain. PTSD. Only 20% of the population is susceptible to that. Only 1/2 of those are traumatized severely enough to take drugs regularly and only about 10% of the 10% have it severe enough to require opiates.

So the drug scare is mostly to destroy the laws. 4th 5th 6th Amendments. And it is done by making you afraid of the Phantom Menace. Addiction.

Remember – all those drugs were freely available in America before December 1914. It wasn’t the drugs that were introduced. It was the scare stories of “addiction”. By Progressives.

32. M Simon says:

BTW the #1 cause of PTSD in America? Child abuse. Look up “Lonnie Shavelson Heroin” .

And yet the connection is never made by most people. Or the media. Why?

33. M Simon says:

One other thing. All those tactical squads were formed to fight the drug menace. Who will they be turned on once drugs are legalized?

And you might find this of interest:

http://www.ctrl.org/boodleboys/boddlesboys2.html

esp the picture at the bottom of the page.

34. p.g.sharrow says:

@M Simon; I am not sure if the Poly Well fits the prophesy . Does the Poly Well technology passivate radioactivity? One of the characteristics of the promised device is that it will leave no radioactive residue and will passivate radioactive materials. All nuclear energy systems that I know of depend on the change of neutrons to hydrogen to create the energy spike and mass conversion of atomic power. This is generally done by damaging the atom and liberating neutrons that then convert. The resulting debris are unstable, radioactive, and the material of the device is also full of destabilized radioactive atoms. pg

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36. Steve C says:

@M Simon – Good points about the use of drugs and drug legislation. as you suggest, It seems to have been primarily a trial run by the “elite” of usung meeaningless, arbitrary legislation against the ordinary population. There was an interesting programme on TV in the last week or so, in the “Storyville” thread on BBC. It was called “The House I Live In”, and was a quite thoughtful look at what drug laws have done for the USA over the 20th century. Worth a watch, if you can find a copy, but it’s not “easy viewing”. (Warning: 1h 40m.)

Re conspiracy, my basic position is that the “conspiracy theories” which sound too crazy to be true are just that; the theories suggesting that those with political power are behaving corruptly all too often turn out to be true. From what I’ve read and worked out, the entire “War on Terror” has just about the same grounding in fact as the “War on Drugs” before it – i.e. none at all. It’s perception management, pure and simple.

Example. You probably saw, at the time, the newspaper pictures of both “the shoe bomber” and “the underpants bomber”. Both had what can only be described as a thoroughly blown-out, drugged-up look to them. Yet we are expected to believe that these were keen Muslim warriors against Western civilisation. Muslims don’t even drink alcohol, never mind getting themselves in the sort of far-gone condition ehibited by both of those gentlemen. The “underpants bomber” even had the “man in a sharp suit” to usher him round the security checks when he boarded the plane sans documentation, which is a darn sight better deal than most air travellers get – and, AFAIK, still unexplained.

But never mind all those forgettable details, eh? Between them, those guys let our friendly local fascists install Chertoff’s porno scanners in major airports around the world, with TSA officials to grope the innocent public and get them used to following orders, etc., not to mention replacing a few more of those inconvenient “human rights” with strict legislation.

Underlying rule – When the fallout from an incident falls randomly, it’s just an incident. When, time and again, all the fallout leads to an intensification of the (undeclared) War on the Public, it’s time to take a look around the “conspiracy” sites to see what inconvenient facts people are turning up about the “incident”. IMO, Sandy Hook was plainly a false flag incident to demonise guns, specifically so-called “assault rifles”. Too many contradictions and vaguenesses by far – and that was my opinion before coming across Sabretooth’s post above about the man caught running away.

A wilderness of mirrors indeed. And so much smoke (no drug pun intended) that you just know our self-styled “betters” have an awful lot invested in the smoke machine business.

37. p.g.sharrow says:

@Cybrerzombie;
I have been reading prophecies for nearly 60 years and using this Internet thing for 5. There are a few links on my blog, the rest are in my head, sorry. From time to time over the decades GOD has destroyed my records and I must rebuild. Kind of like disk drives dying and when you try to restore from tapes of floppys you find they can’t be read. ;-( Besides this prophesie thing is not high on my list of things to spend my time on.
Nostradamus said: 500 years from his time, his work would be correctly interpreted. It would not be done by an educated man and It would be a great comfort to the people of that time.
A good place to start is works of this time, as the 500 years have been completed in the 1980s. pg

38. BobN says:

I think the government is set on total control of the people, why is a big question, but I believe it to be true.
The government, in my opinion is systematically pushing and shoving, systematically on the philology of the American male. The constantly push in every area, gradually get them to give in and back off, at the same time diminishing them in their mental strength and standing amongst their peers. Take a little here, push a little there, test for push back, not to bad, push a bit more. Examples of this are TSA pat downs and electronic imaging at airports, make them humiliated. Obamacare, shove it down their throats! Now the gun push! I truly believe Obama relishes the event, he is splitting the nation and dividing it against itself and he gets to push the right, hoping they will react, knowing that most will not react and will back down, making them more compliant for the next push. For the few that react, they will be dealt with harshly and made fine examples for those that may have doubt and be thinking of not complying.
This type of actions have been done in the past with very bad results, the key question to find the answer is why. Can it be as simple as just power?

39. sabretoothed says:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cfe_1358573296

Sandy Hook Mystery Man Identified; Why Did This Off Duty SWAT Officer Armed With A Gun Run Off Into The Woods Instead Of Helping The Students?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag

40. sabretoothed says:

41. sabretoothed says:

Maybe the Adam guy himself made all the those tributes for himself and the school before he went off and did it????

42. M Simon says:

“Does the Poly Well technology passivate radioactivity?”

I don’t know what you mean by that. Given the proper fuel loading the radiation output is very low.

BTW it works nothing like the way you describe. And there are at least two other organizations planning to use a similar reaction. One is TriAlpha Energy (funded by a former Microsoft guy) and the other is Focus Fusion. Polywell is the only one suitable for rocketry though. Look up pB11 or “B11.fusion” or “proton Boron fusion reaction”.

43. M Simon says:

“Examples of this are TSA pat downs and electronic imaging at airports, make them humiliated.”

You failed to notice the biggest push of all. Drug Testing. i.e. whip it out at our command and deliver. To a Roman that would have been casus belli. Americans? Not so much.

44. M Simon says:

BobN,

The gun control thing is not working out well. Obama couldn’t get Congress to even try to pass a law. Gun sales are way up and NRA is getting new members at a furious clip.

I like Ulsterman for the latest rumors on the progress of Obama’s plans. Other than the drug thing they (commenters and Ulsterman) they get it. And at a visceral level the American people get it. Mostly.

45. BobN says:

@ M Simon

Your right, there is pretty good push back, but the game isn’t over. Never underestimate the power of an Ideologue who doesn’t respect the constitution and the power of government. I hope the people prevail, but time will tell.

46. M Simon says:
47. M Simon says:

BobN,

It isn’t communism they want (that is a big part of it though – at least for now). What they want is the caliphate. It isn’t a political war in the accepted sense. It is a spiritual war.

America was regaining a strong spiritual path with the advent of the shamanistic drugs (LSD, psilocybin etc.) . And that was shut down – hard. The drugs have returned in a very minor way in trials as a possible cure for PTSD. These guys are in the mix: http://www.maps.org/research/

There are people/factions opposing them at all levels. Their plans are not a sure thing. One of their problems is that Drug Prohibition is now a failed ideology. Prohibition is the greatest source of their slush funds. Look up “Osama drugs” and “Rudi Dekkers 9/11” for more.

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“The House I Live In” is available on the ‘net. And funny – it was shown in my town (at a coffee shop) this past Saturday. My town has a population of 150,000. What is amazing is not the showing. What is amazing is that it was featured in our local paper.

48. M Simon says:

Since you don’t know my town let me add that the coffee shop in question is in our town’s skid row. There is a two or three block area of 7th St. where you go if you want a prostitute. Probably drugs as well, although I don’t know much about that scene.

49. M Simon says:

And how do I know about the prostitution? It is featured regularly in the local paper.

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56. sabretoothed says:

http://www.secretsofthefed.com/flashback-cnns-fake-persian-gulf-war-newscast-video/

FLASHBACK: CNN’s Fake Persian Gulf War Newscast [VIDEO]

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This is a weird one