Disintermediation vs Framing and Messaging

Watching CNN, they had a panel discussing the press coverage of the election. In particular, they were calling Trump a liar in his “tweet” about the New York Times losing subscribers. They quoted the NYT saying, basically, ~’Yeah but… our online subscriptions went up!’ and that it was likely that the electronic subscribers offset the physical subscription losses. Yeah, right…

There’s a world of difference between an ‘online subscription’ and a real physical paper subscription. But I think there is a more important point. The internet is causing “disintermediation” in news.

(This link had one of those annoying “please subscribe” pop-up ads, so I’m quoting enough that you do NOT need to ‘hit the link’, so as to save you from the nag-pop-up.)

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/disintermediation.asp

What is ‘Disintermediation’

Disintermediation, in finance, is the withdrawal of funds from intermediary financial institutions, such as banks and savings and loan associations, to invest them directly. Generally, disintermediation is the process of removing the middleman or intermediary from future transactions. Disintermediation is usually done to invest in instruments yielding a higher return.

BREAKING DOWN ‘Disintermediation’

The goal of disintermediation is to lower the overall cost involved in the completion of transactions. Removing the intermediary may also allow a transaction to go through more quickly.

Wholesale Versus Traditional Retail

One common example of disintermediation occurs when a wholesale purchase allows an interested buyer to purchase goods, sometimes at quantity, directly from the producer. This can result in lower prices for the buyer since the intermediary, a traditional retail store, has been removed from the purchasing process. This saves the buyer from the markup cost generally associated with the transition of a product from a wholesale to a retail environment.

Not all companies choose to offer wholesale options directly to customers, as it often requires a bigger investment in resources to process and ship these orders. It does, however, have some benefits to the company if it wants to limit the number of long-term wholesale contracts in use with retailers; working directly with customers bypasses a segment of the traditional retail market.

What that says, when you strip out the jargon, is that generally “disintermediation” is an economic term talking about how the Bank gets in between the borrower and the money source and takes a cut for arranging the deal. Folks looking to lend can get a better rate of return, and folks looking to borrow can get a lower cost to borrow, if they cut out the bank.

That’s the general notion seen in Econ classes. The wiki starts to broaden it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disintermediation

Bold by me.

In economics, disintermediation is the removal of intermediaries from a supply chain, or “cutting out the middlemen” in connection with a transaction or a series of transactions. Instead of going through traditional distribution channels, which had some type of intermediary (such as a distributor, wholesaler, broker, or agent), companies may now deal with customers directly, for example via the Internet.

Disintermediation may decrease the total cost of servicing customers and may allow the manufacturer to increase profit margins and/or reduce prices.

Disintermediation initiated by consumers is often the result of high market transparency, in that buyers are aware of supply prices direct from the manufacturer. Buyers may choose to bypass the middlemen (wholesalers and retailers) to buy directly from the manufacturer, and pay less. Buyers can alternatively elect to purchase from wholesalers. Often, a business-to-consumer electronic commerce (B2C) company functions as the bridge between buyer and manufacturer.

However manufacturers will still incur distribution costs, such as the physical transport of goods, packaging in small units, advertising, and customer helplines, some or all of which would previously have been borne by the intermediary.

My thesis in this article is simple:

The internet has brought disintermediation to the media.

What Trump Did

Trump took his “messaging” directly to the people. He bypassed “the media” by having huge rallies and by “tweets”. He indirectly leveraged an alternative path through the media by “guest appearances” and frankly, by “earned media”. He would say something that was able to gather ears and eyes on him, then deliver his message directly to the cameras. No editor need apply…

OTOH, the extraordinarily group think Journalism Majors who make up “news” and “media reporting” today, with 90%+ of them Democrats and all of them surrounded by a sea of reverberating group think “progressive” talking points; they see their job as to “frame” ideas and statements and to “message” (as a verb) to the unwashed masses. To “mold public opinion” by “creating a narrative”. I.e. to be an intermediary filter that shapes and changes the story to be what they think it ought to be.

The Public, having lots of direct access to the source material, saw this “framing” and “messaging” and “creating the narrative” as just what it was: Distortion to outright lying for effect.

The Public, having lots of direct access to the source material email of Hillary and Podesta and the DNC, saw their cozy relationship with “the media” as what it was: Collusion, fraud, and deception.

The result was massive disintermediation of information flow as folks flocked to ‘direct from the manufacturer’ delivery. Trump Rallies. Rightside Broadcasting Network. Trump tweets.

I know I did. While I avoid tweets and Twitter in general ( I’m not keen on being tracked and they love to track things and people) I did watch Rightside Broadcasting. I “attended” in person (via Rightside Broadcasting) about a dozen Trump Rallies in as many cities spread around the USA. I heard a consistent message and it was simple and honest. I saw my fellow attendees via the RSBN cameras showing the huge crowds inside and out.

Now compare that to the MSM coverage, and you get “cognitive dissonance”. So “Who you gonna believe? My carefully crafted creation of a narrative with fine framing and directed messaging, or your own lyin’ eyes?”… and people chose their own disintermediated POV.

Now compare Hillary. We had a dozen very minor snippets of vision “behind the curtain” at some of her events; all wrapped in huge layers of secrecy and hiding. Her “message” warping and shifting with the assessment of what that particular group wanted to hear. We got bits of “her off stage” that were in stark contrast to her on stage. We had hiding from view and we had berating those who did show her off stage. The MSM put on a great show of framing with the most beautiful and gilded frames, and messaging with glowing reports of prowess and greatness usually only reserved for World Leaders in North Korea… Hillary did not understand that “we the people” had disintermediated from the Main Stream Media (MSM) filter / editorial / framing / message manufacture process; and that she could not stop it nor control it.

In Conclusion

We saw some of that disintermediation on this site. Individuals acting as “reporters” and finding bits of clear information here and there, posting them in comments and generally acting as field reporters. The whole set of readers acting as the editorial board deciding what comment needed to be lauded and which links were dodgy. We, collectively, disintermediated the MSM Editors and Reporters.

Disintermediation is what has grown Amazon. They have everything, just about, and it is delivered direct to your door. No ‘retail store’, no parking lot (free or valet with fee), no wholesale cut to the distributor, etc. etc.

Disintermediation is what has grown micro-loans (directly connecting small lenders to even smaller borrowers) and such things as crowdfunding sites. (Go Fund Me, Kickstarter, Indiegogo, etc.). It bypasses the Venture Capital industry for small (and some not so small) ideas.

Disintermediation lets me buy a 4 core computer direct from China for about $7 ($10.30 with shipping) even bypassing Amazon.

Now disintermediation has let me (and a few tens of millions of others) bypass the MSM and go direct to The Donald and make our own assessment of the facts. (It also let us bypass the DNC, MSM, HRC, and more to assess Hillary… Thank You Wikileaks!)

It is possible that The Donald even used his disintermediated platforms to bypass the RNC and get himself the nomination (the Debates being partly disintermediated in that the candidates go head to head on stage).

So one of the Talking Heads was trying to “poo poo” The Donald and his tweets by saying how it wasn’t very Presidential and how he’d have to stop it once President or look the fool (as a paraphrase). Well, I’ve got news for you Talking Heads: The Donald knows the power of disintermediation. He’s not going to let that go to waste. He might assign the job of making the text to someone else, but when he sees your “framing” and “messaging” and “crafting the narrative” as B.S. you can damn well expect a “tweet” saying “That is a B.S. Story they made up!”. It will go directly to tends of millions of ‘followers’ and you will be the one with the “small audience”.

How many?

“But there’s no arguing that Trump has his following on the popular social media platform —Twitter says the Republican presidential nominee has 12.1 million followers across the globe.” (From: http://www.app.com/story/news/politics/2016/10/09/trump-twitter-followers-everywhere/91811810/ and do note that is BEFORE he became President Elect…)

NYT: Circulation 1,865,318

http://news.thestreet.com/philly/story/13883949/1/despite-improvements-new-york-times-isn-t-a-good-investing-story.html

Let’s face it: Newspapers are going the way of the dinosaur.

The sad fact is that most people just aren’t reading the news in print anymore.

Although many in this industry have managed to make the switch to online, they are suffering the loss of a massive revenue generator: print advertising.

And without these ads, media companies are seeing a dramatic downward slump.

Nobody in the print media is safe. Gannett, News Corp. and TEGNA, all once top media brands, are dealing with a combination of falling print-ad revenue and digital sales that are too sluggish to bridge the gap.

Even New York Times , a $1.8 billion media behemoth and time-honored institution, is at a tipping point.

So Trump with a Tweet reaches 12 Million directly, all of whom care about his message. NYT reaches 1.8 Million but many of them not really interested in that story and reading some other part of it.

Dear NYT:

You have been disintermediated. Please pick up your things as you exit the house…

That’s the real story behind The Donald “tweet” about NYT drop in circulation, and about the CNN et. al. claim that it was a lie as you must count ‘online subscriptions’. OK, let’s do. By that metric The Donald is way larger in ‘circulation’ than the NYT circulation.

IMHO, as more folks get a bigger ‘taste’ of disintermediated “news”, it is not only the print media that is at risk. Already I watch foreign sources for my overseas news. France24, RT Russia Today, and a whole lot more. Try to ‘spin’ what is happening in Allepo and I’m seeing camera feeds from both sides of the front line with editorial bias from both sides of the story and that just highlights all the “framing” and “spin” and “creating the narrative” and once that is factored out, the real news is what remains.

So “the nightly news” can get back to straight reporting of the “Who, what, where, when, how and some why” and get out of the “framing” and “creating the narrative” propaganda business, or they can be left on the disintermediation trash heap of history. It isn’t because it is more convenient that I’m watching news via the internet, it is because it is a better way to get “Just the facts, mam.”

Is there no place for the Editor?

Yes, there is. Frankly, my biggest complaint about many online news sites is that they have embraced the buffet model. They chop up their news into 100 little bits and say “Go Fish!” for the 5 minute ‘story’ on the thing that interests you. Part of why I watch news instead of just read it is for the Editor and Storyboarding. I want someone to pick the dozen most important things of that particular moment and shove them to the top of the heap, and then I can just “click once” and let it run for a half hour. Yes, I know, I’m getting your editorial slant in what you choose to promote. I’m OK with that (as other news flows with other editorial choices will balance it.) What I’m not OK with is changing the story to have an editorial goal. Trouncing Trump, lauding Hillary. I’ll make my own evaluations of what it all means, thank you very much. I want: What happened. Who did it and where. When. How it was done (sadly almost always left out of manicured for effect spin stories). Then, maybe, some of why and what it means, but only if you can keep your grubby paws off the truth and stop molesting it into a slut selling your intellectual wares…

So get back to basics, or be disintermediated out of my life. After all, I have a direct line to The President… and I can just ask him.

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About E.M.Smith

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70 Responses to Disintermediation vs Framing and Messaging

  1. Larry Ledwick says:

    That is my experience too.
    I use twitter as a news feed. Right now I am following 89 streams only 2 of them are personal connections with friends. All the others are the official twitter links for Police, Fire, State and County governments, a few news organizations (including foreign for balance and an out side view of the US)
    The AP (which is the base data used by all the nominal big news organizations). They have all mostly wound down their news bureaus in other cities and countries and are just taking the AP feed and perhaps Reuters or BBC and repackaging it with a few sentences of local flavor.

    Look at the by lines of 90% of these stories you see in the classic major media and most of them will be AP feeds with local contribution by one of their staff writers, 80%-90% of the text is word for word AP, they are just cut and paste services now.

    I have found over the last few months a handful of commenters on the alt media (mostly twitter) who were mostly if not completely right about what was happening in this election cycle and the major media was almost universally wrong and unrepresentative in their coverage.

    I actively avoid following links to sources like CNN and MSNBC – I don’t want to give them the recorded web click to go there. I would rather see their content in the page of a trusted commentator who will shoot holes in their shoddy story lines so I don’t have to spend hours digging out the places that they misrepresented the facts or used selective data to slant the story.

    Folks like Stefan Molyneux, Sharyl Attkisson, SalenaZito, Bill Mitchell, and others on twitter were 2x to 3x more reliable than the major media and often found discrepancies, minutes or even days before the major media noticed.

    A few of the folks I follow are known “negative indicators” ie they have a known bias that helps me see the other sides agenda, and spot “talking point” news items which appear almost word for word and simultaneously from various sources. You know instantly that they all are the result of some talking points memo or private conference call as the correspondence of wording and coverage could not happen accidentally.

  2. John Robertson says:

    Well put.
    The sneering,condescending “we know how thou shall live your lives and how you shall think” narrative from our presstitutes has worked very well.
    I am fascinated as their illusion unravels.
    Perhaps the fastest cure for their reliance on slander and malicious gossip, would be to allow duelling.
    Tazers at 5 paces?
    I expect our current crop of entitled parasites, media included, to learn nothing from Trumps Triumph, they will double down on their “narrative” oblivious to the fact that most now watch them for entertainment not information.
    I for one, have been watching channels I normally ignore, to wallow in their wailing and gnashing of teeth…The common statements?
    “How dare you stupid voters have opinions not sanctioned by your betters?”
    “How could you voters be so stupid?”.

    I wonder how many years must pass before the takers admit that there is no free lunch?
    I am also hoping to see a multitude of “civil servants” released to demonstrate their “great skills” in the private sector.As the current bureaucracy has an insatible appetite for private output, crushing business and individual at whim.
    Will be most educational to see kleptocracy peacefully reformed.

  3. cynic says:

    Will this make elections cheaper and perhaps more honest? Candidates won’t need big donations to pay for expensive advertisements, so donors may be able to exert less influence.

  4. E.M.Smith says:

    @Cynic: Trump already made it cheaper, by half…

  5. Gail Combs says:

    Speaking of Disintermediation….

    Here’s the transition site for anyone who’s interested in suggesting ideas to The Donald:
    https://www.greatagain.gov

  6. G. Combs says:

    A video piecing together the Clinton scandals and connections to the FBI

  7. G. Combs says:

    At this point our best bet is to laugh at the idiots throwing temper tantrums. It is about time the adults took charge again.

    These temper tantrums are the best evidence that a palm on the butt and lots of chores has been missing in the upbringing of America’s young.

  8. H.R. says:

    Just finished watching the 60 Minutes Trump interview by Leslie Stahl.

    In part of the interview, she questioned him on his tweeting and he pointed out that he directly reaches more than 28 million with his messages on twitter, FB, and Instagram. He also pointed out that it’s the future of communication with the American people. Left unsaid; he bypasses the MSM filter and soon they will find themselves irrelevant.

    You were prescient and timely with this article, E.M.

  9. H.R. says:

    P.S. Probably CBS’s highest ratings in years, because… Trump

  10. cdquarles says:

    EM Smith said, “So “the nightly news” can get back to straight reporting of the “Who, what, where, when, how and some why” and get out of the “framing” and “creating the narrative” propaganda business, or they can be left on the disintermediation trash heap of history. It isn’t because it is more convenient that I’m watching news via the internet, it is because it is a better way to get “Just the facts, mam.” ; yet, as far as I can tell, that’s never been true in my lifetime. Oh, they tried hard to make it appear to be that way. Yet it never was so. It has, though, gotten worse over time. I guess they thought that having a philosophical monopoly (Hoover Bad, FDR Good; never mind that FDR doubled down on Hoover’s policies) was enough. That and the ‘Fairness Doctrine’ that never seemed to allow the questions that were left out to be asked. Maybe I’m just too cynical.

  11. E.M.Smith says:

    @cdquarles:

    I seem to remember a guy named Cronkite who was a pretty straight shooter…

    @H.R.:

    Odd, must be different time zones. I’m just now watching the opening credits of 60 Minutes…

  12. pg sharrow says:

    Actually IIRC Cronkite drank the Cool-Aid and joined the darkside during the later half of the Vietnam war and got caught at anti-iNixon news “management”…pg

  13. John F. Hultquist says:

    At one point Cronkite was anointed “the most trusted” person in — the room, the media, — I’ve forgotten the ending. I always thought he was a “reader” or “presenter” of stories thought to be of interest to viewers and thus, like Google now, CBS was selling ad space. If they kept the viewer viewing they could charge car companies, soap sellers, and cigarette makers for the platform. [Watch a few of those old TV ads.]
    There are only about 12-15 minutes of play in a NFL game and percentage-wise less news in a MSM news program. What a waste of time.

  14. Larry Ledwick says:

    The real journalist that kept them honest for a time was Edward R. Murrow.
    He had the stature and following to tell the network that he was not going to do certain things.
    He insisted on telling the news factually and not painting an artificially rosy picture of bad news.

    http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/0425.html

  15. Another Ian says:

    E.M.

    I just sent yiou a copy of an email I just received for checking.

  16. philjourdan says:

    Virtually all the information about Trump was through Disintermediation. And of course, with the exception of the last Comey letter to congress, all the relevant information about Hillary as well. Wikileaks was ignored by the press. But not the people.

  17. Gail Combs says:

    Phil, If ConservativeTreeHouse is anything to go by, there was a concerted effort to wean everyone away from the MSM. “Cut the Cord!” was a repeated theme through the last year and a half.

    Given the number of comments @ the TreeHouse, I think it has a major following that makes WUWT look small. Given the work they did on the George Zimmerman gaslighting by Obama and the MSM and other stories, they deserve that following. I have certainly added it to my list of websites to visit for general news.

  18. cdquarles says:

    The thing about Cronkite is that there’s no evidence that I am aware of, to back that “most trusted” label, beyond opinion polls. Cronkite was only as trustworthy as his writers and producers; and no, I didn’t trust them. Why should I? /rhetorical

  19. Larry Ledwick says:

    Sharyl Attkisson update on the failure of objective journalism. One of the few journalists willing to paint the full picture warts and all.

    https://sharylattkisson.com/newsgate-2016/

  20. G. Combs says:

    Interesting video on USA election, Russia and Middle East (Language warning)

    And by the same author Carl Benjamin aka Sargon of Akkad, a British YouTube pundit and classical liberal. (I do love satire and the British do it best. )

  21. G. Combs says:

    At the end of this vid. Stefan mentions the third quarter earnings.
    Murdoch’s News Corp (Fox) LOST $15 million compared to a gain of $175 million a year ago.
    NY Times had $406,000 net for the third quarter vs $175 Million a year ago.

    Gee it seems the Deplorables are making their displeasure felt…

  22. G. Combs says:

    CBS Withholds Trump Anti-Violence Soundbite for Two Days…
    Do they really think we don’t see them as the manipulators that they are?

    Lesley Stahl: Do you want to say anything to those people?
    Donald Trump: I would say don’t do it, that’s terrible, ‘cause I’m gonna bring this country together.
    Lesley Stahl: They’re harassing Latinos, Muslims–
    Donald Trump: I am so saddened to hear that. And I say, “Stop it.” If it– if it helps. I will say this, and I will say right to the cameras: Stop it.

    Setting aside the ridiculous line of questioning, the issue surfaced: if the media was so concerned about Trump supporter violence, then why didn’t CBS release this interview segment on Friday evening instead of the ObamaCare segment they released?

    Within the answer to that question you find out how the media constructs their manipulative narratives.

    WTF??? It is white Trump voters who are getting the crap beaten out of them….

  23. E.M.Smith says:

    Clearly you failed re-education class…

    Any words that cause a SJW to go bat shit crazy, like “How are you today?” is violence.

    Them beating someone is Social Justice, by definition…

  24. G. Combs says:

    Old 60 Minutes Interview of George Soros

  25. philjourdan says:

    @Gail – one of the slams against the left is that they live in an echo chamber. This is true. They denigrate the alternate media, and never bother with it.

    But so do we. Perhaps not as much as they do (live in an echo chamber), as the MSM is still pervasive. So I do read the CTH a lot because I LIKE the subjects. But I know that is just an echo chamber. And most Americans have never heard of it.

    And while the faith in the MSM is way down, and people availing themselves of it is also way down, it still is the most pervasive source of disinformation out there. I see it in my own family, daily. All they know is what the MSM told them (or some bubble headed actress).

    So the disinformation campaign will continue. The Trump victory is merely a speed bump in the struggle. The real struggle is the fight against the MSM and the disinformation. If we had a REAL press in this country, no democrat would be elected ever again (or at least until saner heads prevailed). But Democrats win because the press hides their sins and disqualifications, while making up the same about the republicans.

  26. G. Combs says:

    Phil in the struggle of sane adults against the stompy-feet gaslighting MSM we have two new moves that take this whole thing into the farcical.

    First Trump make the time to make a personal call to ALEX JONES to ask him to convey his thanks to the ‘Deplorables’ who supported him. President Elect Trump reaches out to thank the Infowars audience

    This is NOT sitting well with the MSM…..

    Former Obama Spokesman Threatens Trump Over Media Access…

    In the continuing media saga/melt-down over President-Elect Donald Trump’s audacity to eat a meal in a restaurant with his family [WITHOUT inviting the press as is ‘traditional’] we find the following quote from former Obama administration spokesperson Tommy “Dude” Vietor:

    Former Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor emails:

    The White House Correspondents Association has to be ready to respond much more forcefully if Trump continues to ignore long-standing traditions of press access. That’s especially true for the five network bureau chiefs who hold most of the power.

    I’d like to see them publicly detail their expectations as well as the potential repercussions if those demands continue to be ignored.

    This is too important, and the Trump campaign learned all the wrong lessons during the campaign when they faced no penalty for blacklisting reporters.” (link)

    Oh noes, the dreaded double-dog “potential repercussions” threat…. What’s the media going to do Tommy, stop reporting on Trump? Ignore Trump? LOLOL… that’s not exactly a threat. Tommy is so going to be riding his bicycle in slow circles in front of the White House…

    Then again, it’s possible for the media to begin labeling President-Elect Donald Trump “Double Hitler” or something. Surely there’s an unused pejorative in the dictionary or ancient Fleet Street scrolls somewhere that the bureau chiefs can deploy. Gottabe.

    As wheatietoo eloquently said: ” At this rate, the press will soon be boiling rabbits and screaming…”We will not be ignored Donald!”……

    I think the Propaganda media is SO used to getting their own way by bashing anyone who defies them that they have not yet realized that Trump DOES NOT HAVE TO GIVE THEM ACCESS!!!! He did give them a subtle warning when Trump Threatens to Revoke New York Times’ Press Credentials

    ‘The Blacklist’: Here are the media outlets banned by Donald Trump
    …The Washington Post is not the first. Donald Trump has been denying press credentials to news outlets for nearly a year.
    It’s become known in media circles as “the blacklist” — a running catalog of newsrooms deemed by Trump to be unfair and banned from his campaign events accordingly…..
    Univision ……
    Buzzfeed ……
    Huffington Post ……
    Politico ……
    The Daily Beast ……
    The Washington Post ……
    The Des Moines Register ……

    Trump gets to pick WHO he gives interviews to and WHO is his press secretary. He is perfectly free to give access only to Right Side Broadcasting and Info Wars or go direct to the public via facebook and twitter.

    It is going to take a while to sink in that there is NO LAW that says Trump has to continue taking a beating from the big 6 by allowing them access. By denying them access OTHERS who report fairly get to report the truth and the propaganda machine is left scrambling to try to spin it after the fact. A new twist to the old Mark Twain saying ” A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.” now truth gets the head start and the lies are left trying to find their totally organic sandals.

    This is going to be a fun four years.

  27. G. Combs says:

    Phil in the struggle of sane adults against the stompy-feet gaslighting MSM we have two new moves that take this whole thing into the farcical.

    First Trump make the time to make a personal call to ALEX JONES to ask him to convey his thanks to the ‘Deplorables’ who supported him. President Elect Trump reaches out to thank the Infowars audience

    This is NOT sitting well with the MSM…..

    Former Obama Spokesman Threatens Trump Over Media Access…

    In the continuing media saga/melt-down over President-Elect Donald Trump’s audacity to eat a meal in a restaurant with his family [WITHOUT inviting the press as is ‘traditional’] we find the following quote from former Obama administration spokesperson Tommy “Dude” Vietor:

    Former Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor emails:

    The White House Correspondents Association has to be ready to respond much more forcefully if Trump continues to ignore long-standing traditions of press access. That’s especially true for the five network bureau chiefs who hold most of the power.

    I’d like to see them publicly detail their expectations as well as the potential repercussions if those demands continue to be ignored.

    This is too important, and the Trump campaign learned all the wrong lessons during the campaign when they faced no penalty for blacklisting reporters.” (link)

    Oh noes, the dreaded double-dog “potential repercussions” threat…. What’s the media going to do Tommy, stop reporting on Trump? Ignore Trump? LOLOL… that’s not exactly a threat. Tommy is so going to be riding his bicycle in slow circles in front of the White House…

    Then again, it’s possible for the media to begin labeling President-Elect Donald Trump “Double H!t!er” or something. Surely there’s an unused pejorative in the dictionary or ancient Fleet Street scrolls somewhere that the bureau chiefs can deploy. Gottabe.

    As wheatietoo eloquently said: ” At this rate, the press will soon be boiling rabbits and screaming…”We will not be ignored Donald!”……

    I think the Propaganda media is SO used to getting their own way by bashing anyone who defies them that they have not yet realized that Trump DOES NOT HAVE TO GIVE THEM ACCESS!!!! He did give them a subtle warning when Trump Threatens to Revoke New York Times’ Press Credentials

    ‘The Blacklist’: Here are the media outlets banned by Donald Trump
    …The Washington Post is not the first. Donald Trump has been denying press credentials to news outlets for nearly a year.
    It’s become known in media circles as “the blacklist” — a running catalog of newsrooms deemed by Trump to be unfair and banned from his campaign events accordingly…..
    Univision ……
    Buzzfeed ……
    Huffington Post ……
    Politico ……
    The Daily Beast ……
    The Washington Post ……
    The Des Moines Register ……

    Trump gets to pick WHO he gives interviews to and WHO is his press secretary. He is perfectly free to give access only to Right Side Broadcasting and Info Wars or go direct to the public via facebook and twitter.

    It is going to take a while to sink in that there is NO LAW that says Trump has to continue taking a beating from the big 6 by allowing them access. By denying them access OTHERS who report fairly get to report the truth and the propaganda machine is left scrambling to try to spin it after the fact. A new twist to the old Mark Twain saying ” A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.” now truth gets the head start and the lies are left trying to find their totally organic sandals.

    This is going to be a fun four years.

  28. G. Combs says:

    Phil in the struggle of sane adults against the stompy-feet gaslighting MSM we have two new moves that take this whole thing into the farcical.

    First Trump make the time to make a personal call to ALEX JONES to ask him to convey his thanks to the ‘Deplorables’ who supported him. President Elect Trump reaches out to thank the Infowars audience

    This is NOT sitting well with the MSM…..

    Former Obama Spokesman Thre@tens Trump Over Media Access…

    In the continuing media saga/melt-down over President-Elect Donald Trump’s audacity to eat a meal in a restaurant with his family [WITHOUT inviting the press as is ‘traditional’] we find the following quote from former Obama administration spokesperson Tommy “Dude” Vietor:

    Former Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor emails:

    The White House Correspondents Association has to be ready to respond much more forcefully if Trump continues to ignore long-standing traditions of press access. That’s especially true for the five network bureau chiefs who hold most of the power.

    I’d like to see them publicly detail their expectations as well as the potential repercussions if those demands continue to be ignored.

    This is too important, and the Trump campaign learned all the wrong lessons during the campaign when they faced no penalty for blacklisting reporters.” (link)

    Oh noes, the dreaded double-dog “potential repercussions” threAt…. What’s the media going to do Tommy, stop reporting on Trump? Ignore Trump? LOLOL… that’s not exactly a threat. Tommy is so going to be riding his bicycle in slow circles in front of the White House…

    Then again, it’s possible for the media to begin labeling President-Elect Donald Trump “Double *****” or something. Surely there’s an unused pejorative in the dictionary or ancient Fleet Street scrolls somewhere that the bureau chiefs can deploy. Gottabe.

    As wheatietoo eloquently said: ” At this rate, the press will soon be boiling rabbits and screaming…”We will not be ignored Donald!”……

  29. G. Combs says:

    Phil in the struggle of sane adults against the stompy-feet MSM we have two new moves that take this whole thing into the farcical.

    First Trump make the time to make a personal call to ALEX JONES to ask him to convey his thanks to the ‘Deplorables’ who supported him.

    This is NOT sitting well with the MSM…..

    Former Obama Spokesman Threatens Trump Over Media Access…

    In the continuing media saga/melt-down over President-Elect Donald Trump’s audacity to eat a meal in a restaurant with his family [WITHOUT inviting the press as is ‘traditional’] we find the following quote from former Obama administration spokesperson Tommy “Dude” Vietor:

    Former Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor emails:

    The White House Correspondents Association has to be ready to respond much more forcefully if Trump continues to ignore long-standing traditions of press access. That’s especially true for the five network bureau chiefs who hold most of the power.

    I’d like to see them publicly detail their expectations as well as the potential repercussions if those demands continue to be ignored.

    This is too important, and the Trump campaign learned all the wrong lessons during the campaign when they faced no penalty for blacklisting reporters.” (link)

    Oh noes, the dreaded double-dog “potential repercussions” ***** …. What’s the media going to do Tommy, stop reporting on Trump? Ignore Trump? LOLOL… that’s not exactly a ****. Tommy is so going to be riding his bicycle in slow circles in front of the White House…

    Then again, it’s possible for the media to begin labeling President-Elect Donald Trump “Double *****” or something. Surely there’s an unused pejorative in the dictionary or ancient Fleet Street scrolls somewhere that the bureau chiefs can deploy. Gottabe.

    As wheatietoo eloquently said: ” At this rate, the press will soon be boiling rabbits and screaming…”We will not be ignored Donald!”……

  30. G. Combs says:

    Phil in the struggle of sane adults against the stompy-feet gaslighting MSM we have two new moves that take this whole thing into the farcical.

    First Trump make the time to make a personal call to ALEX JONES to ask him to convey his thanks to the ‘Deplorables’ who supported him. (Can’t do link)

    This is NOT sitting well with the MSM…..

    Former Obama Spokesman Threatens Trump Over Media Access…

    In the continuing media saga/melt-down over President-Elect Donald Trump’s audacity to eat a meal in a restaurant with his family [WITHOUT inviting the press as is ‘traditional’] we find the following quote from former Obama administration spokesperson Tommy “Dude” Vietor:

    Former Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor emails:

    The White House Correspondents Association has to be ready to respond much more forcefully if Trump continues to ignore long-standing traditions of press access. That’s especially true for the five network bureau chiefs who hold most of the power.

    I’d like to see them publicly detail their expectations as well as the potential repercussions if those demands continue to be ignored.

    This is too important, and the Trump campaign learned all the wrong lessons during the campaign when they faced no penalty for blacklisting reporters.” (link)

    Oh noes, the dreaded double-dog “potential repercussions”…..

  31. G. Combs says:

    GOOD GRIEF, WordImperfect is back to banning practically every thing I post!

  32. G. Combs says:

    Try try again. (This is going to be in small bites to find out what is the trigger. Sorry guys)
    Phil in the struggle of sane adults against the stompy-feet gaslighting MSM we have two new moves that take this whole thing into the farcical.

    First Trump make the time to make a personal call to ALEX JONES to ask him to convey his thanks to the ‘Deplorables’ who supported him. President Elect Trump reaches out to thank the Infowars audience

    This is NOT sitting well with the MSM…..

  33. G. Combs says:

    Seems that WordImperfect is banning the use of Alex Jones.

  34. G. Combs says:

    So links to Alex Jones site are now banned. (information —- w@r)

  35. G. Combs says:

    And the rest…
    Phil in the struggle of sane adults against the infantile MSM we have two new moves that take this whole thing into the farcical.

    First Trump make the time to make a personal call to ALEX JONES to ask him to convey his thanks to the ‘Deplorables’ who supported him.

    This is NOT sitting well with the MSM…..

    From Sundance Linked above.

    In the continuing media saga/melt-down over President-Elect Donald Trump’s audacity to eat a meal in a restaurant with his family [WITHOUT inviting the press as is ‘traditional’] we find the following quote from former Obama administration spokesperson Tommy “Dude” Vietor:

    Former Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor emails:

    The White House Correspondents Association has to be ready to respond much more forcefully if Trump continues to ignore long-standing traditions of press access. That’s especially true for the five network bureau chiefs who hold most of the power.

    I’d like to see them publicly detail their expectations as well as the potential repercussions if those demands continue to be ignored.

    This is too important, and the Trump campaign learned all the wrong lessons during the campaign when they faced no penalty for blacklisting reporters.” (link)

    Oh noes, the dreaded double-dog “potential repercussions” thr**t…. What’s the media going to do Tommy, stop reporting on Trump? Ignore Trump? LOLOL… that’s not exactly a thr**t. Tommy is so going to be riding his bicycle in slow circles in front of the White House…

    Then again, it’s possible for the media to begin labeling President-Elect Donald Trump “Double H8lr” or something. Surely there’s an unused pejorative in the dictionary or ancient Fleet Street scrolls somewhere that the bureau chiefs can deploy. Gottabe.

    I think the Propaganda media is SO used to getting their own way by bashing anyone who defies them that they have not yet realized that Trump DOES NOT HAVE TO GIVE THEM ACCESS!!!! CONTINUED

  36. G. Combs says:

    Phil in the struggle of sane adults against the infantile MSM we have two new moves that take this whole thing into the farcical.

    First Trump make the time to make a personal call to ALEX JONES to ask him to convey his thanks to us

    This is NOT sitting well with the MSM…..
    then there was the Sundance article that I can not quote.
    President-Elect Donald Trump’s went out to eat a meal in a restaurant with his family WITHOUT inviting the press as is ‘traditional’]

    Former Obama administration spokesperson Tommy “Dude” Vietor tried to invoke the ‘power’ of tradition and the press.

    Tommy Vietor emails:

    The White House Correspondents Association has to be ready to respond much more forcefully if Trump continues to ignore long-standing traditions of press access. That’s especially true for the five network bureau chiefs who hold most of the power.

    I’d like to see them publicly detail their expectations as well as the potential repercussions if those demands continue to be ignored.

    This is too important, and the Trump campaign learned all the wrong lessons during the campaign when they faced no penalty for blacklisting reporters.” (link)

  37. G. Combs says:

    Phil in the struggle of sane adults against the infantileMSM we have two new moves that take this whole thing into the farcical.

    First Trump make the time to make a personal call to ALEX JONES to ask him to convey his thanks to his supporters.
    This is NOT sitting well with the MSM…..

    President-Elect Donald Trumphad the audacity to eat a meal in a restaurant with his family WITHOUT inviting the press as is ‘traditional’] we find the following quote from former Obama administration spokesperson Tommy “Dude” Vietor in an e-mail (Linked by Sundance)

    The White House Correspondents Association has to be ready to respond much more forcefully if Trump continues to ignore long-standing traditions of press access. That’s especially true for the five network bureau chiefs who hold most of the power.

    I’d like to see them publicly detail their expectations as well as the potential repercussions if those demands continue to be ignored.

    This is too important, and the Trump campaign learned all the wrong lessons during the campaign when they faced no penalty for blacklisting reporters.”

    Sundance and his followers find this highly amusing.

  38. G. Combs says:

    (sorry about the bold. I am getting very tired of reposting this but I am VERY Stubborn.)

    CONTINUED
    I think the Propaganda media is SO used to getting their own way by bashing anyone who defies them that they have not yet realized that Trump DOES NOT HAVE TO GIVE THEM ACCESS!!!! He did give them a subtle warning when Trump Threatens to Revoke New York Times’ Press Credentials

    And when he banned media that printed lies about him

    ‘The Blacklist’: Here are the media outlets banned by Donald Trump
    …The Washington Post is not the first. Donald Trump has been denying press credentials to news outlets for nearly a year.
    It’s become known in media circles as “the blacklist” — a running catalog of newsrooms deemed by Trump to be unfair and banned from his campaign events accordingly…..
    Univision ……
    Buzzfeed ……
    Huffington Post ……
    Politico ……
    The Daily Beast ……
    The Washington Post ……
    The Des Moines Register ……

    Trump gets to pick WHO he gives interviews to and WHO is his press secretary. He is perfectly free to give access only to Right Side Broadcasting and Info Wars or go direct to the public via facebook and twitter.

    It is going to take a while to sink in that there is NO LAW that says Trump has to continue taking a beating from the big 6 by allowing them access. By denying them access OTHERS who report fairly get to report the truth and the propaganda machine is left scrambling to try to spin it after the fact. A new twist to the old Mark Twain saying ” A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.” now truth gets the head start and the lies are left trying to find their totally organic sandals.

    This is going to be a fun four years.

  39. G. Combs says:

    (sorry about the bold. I am getting very tired of reposting this but I am VERY Stubborn.)

    CONTINUED
    I think the media is SO used to getting their own way by bullying anyone who defies them that they have not yet realized that Trump DOES NOT HAVE TO GIVE THEM ACCESS!!!! He did give them a subtle warning when Trump Thre@tens to Revoke New York Times’ Press Credentials

    And when he banned media that printed lies about him

    ‘The Blacklist’: Here are the media outlets banned by Donald Trump
    …The Washington Post is not the first. Donald Trump has been denying press credentials to news outlets for nearly a year.
    It’s become known in media circles as “the blacklist” — a running catalog of newsrooms deemed by Trump to be unfair and banned from his campaign events accordingly…..
    Univision ……
    Buzzfeed ……
    Huffington Post ……
    Politico ……
    The Daily Beast ……
    The Washington Post ……
    The Des Moines Register ……

    Trump gets to pick WHO he gives interviews to and WHO is his press secretary. He is perfectly free to give access only to Right Side Broadcasting and Info Wars or go direct to the public via facebook and twitter.

    It is going to take a while to sink in that there is NO LAW that says Trump has to continue taking a beating from the big 6 by allowing them access. By denying them access OTHERS who report fairly get to report the truth and the propaganda machine is left scrambling to try to spin it after the fact. A new twist to the old Mark Twain saying ” A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.” now truth gets the head start and the lies are left trying to find their totally organic sandals.

    This is going to be a fun four years.

  40. G. Combs says:

    (sorry about the bold. I am getting very tired of reposting this but I am VERY Stubborn.)

    CONTINUED
    (sorry about the bold. I am getting very tired of reposting this but I am VERY Stubborn.)

    CONTINUED
    I think the media is SO used to getting their own way by bullying anyone who defies them that they have not yet realized that Trump DOES NOT HAVE TO GIVE THEM ACCESS!!!! He did give them a subtle warning when Trump Thre@tens to Revoke New York Times’ Press Credentials

  41. G. Combs says:

    (sorry about the bold. I am getting very tired of reposting this but I am VERY Stubborn.)

    CONTINUED
    I think the media is SO used to getting their own way by bullying anyone who defies them that they have not yet realized that Trump DOES NOT HAVE TO GIVE THEM ACCESS!!!! He did give them a subtle warning when Trump T….tens to Revoke New York Times’ Press Credentials(Brietbart)

  42. G. Combs says:

    threaten

  43. G. Combs says:

    ( I am REALLY getting very tired of reposting this but I am VERY Stubborn.)

    CONTINUED

    And when he banned media that printed lies about him

    ‘The Blacklist’: Here are the media outlets banned by Donald Trump
    …The Washington Post is not the first. Donald Trump has been denying press credentials to news outlets for nearly a year.
    It’s become known in media circles as “the blacklist” — a running catalog of newsrooms deemed by Trump to be unfair and banned from his campaign events accordingly…..
    Univision ……
    Buzzfeed ……
    Huffington Post ……
    Politico ……
    The Daily Beast ……
    The Washington Post ……
    The Des Moines Register ……

    Trump gets to pick WHO he gives interviews to and WHO is his press secretary. He is perfectly free to give access only to Right Side Broadcasting and Info Wars or go direct to the public via facebook and twitter.

    It is going to take a while to sink in that there is NO LAW that says Trump has to continue taking a beating from the big 6 by allowing them access. By denying them access OTHERS who report fairly get to report the truth and the propaganda machine is left scrambling to try to spin it after the fact. A new twist to the old Mark Twain saying ” A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.” now truth gets the head start and the lies are left trying to find their totally organic sandals.

    This is going to be a fun four years.

  44. G. Combs says:

    Looks like URL links to br1etb@rt are also banned by wordpress. (I tried six different links)

  45. G. Combs says:

    Well Phil it looks like the MSM is no longer ignoring the Alternate media they are now banning the sites that Hillary said she would ban!

  46. G. Combs says:

    Br!etB@rt is totally banned. I can not even post the main page.

  47. philjourdan says:

    @Gail – as do I find it very amusing. After the MSM got scorched for their behavior, now they are coming back and demanding to be taken seriously! They should have thought about that before when they threw their hand all in for Hillary. Trump owes them nothing. Regardless of what he does, they will lie and trash him. He is better off handing over their press passes to Alex Jones. The stories will be the same. But at least the press conferences will be more fun.

  48. philjourdan says:

    I think they do not like you. I just posted a Breitbart link. I can try an Alex Jones one if you want.

  49. philjourdan says:

    It seems it may have been a timing issue as now I am getting a ton of posts by you, most of them duplicates.

  50. G. Combs says:

    Phil, E.M.
    I did say I was computer challenged…. And now I KNOW the buggers… errr bots are out to get me!!!

  51. E.M.Smith says:

    @Gail:

    IMHO, you are just “patience challenged” in a world filled with slow computers (sometimes load bursts swamp every system), page caches (that sometimes don’t show new stuff until a page reload – AFTER the backend system processes it), and the day or two long interaction between robot spam guardians and once-a-day systems managers.

    PLEASE take this advice, it will save you much grief:

    Before assuming a site is out to ban you or links, assume a systems admin is on coffee break or a web cache server has not done a refresh. Do not post a dozen test cases in 2 minutes (as that can trigger a spam classification) but do take a break to pet the cat and refill your cup. I’d guess 90%+ of the perceived issues will evaporate inside 10 minutes, and 99% in 24 hours (my sleep/eat/service blog cycle).

  52. G. Combs says:

    Rolling on the floor laughing…
    Now the Disinfo agen…. err Press are throwing a hissy fit because Trump is taking a salary of one dollar.

  53. G. Combs says:

    Mike Cernovich: Twitter is over
    New rules = Bans for most whites.

  54. philjourdan says:

    @Gail – over on Suyts place, latitude is having the same problem. It is probably some WP quirk.

  55. E.M.Smith says:

    @Phil:

    I’m sticking with the robot trying to interpret votes off the island…

    As left wing sites mark it SPAM the count rises, then as pro B.B. sites fish it back out of Spam, it gets marked OK and the count drops. Eventually the robot decides it can’t tell and stops calling it spam.

  56. G. Combs says:

    E.M.
    Patience is NOT one of my virtues esp when I am on Hubby’s computer and I can not save the text to LibraOffice like I can at my computer. However I will try.

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