W.O.O.D. – Life Goes On 20 Feb 2021


This is another of the W.O.O.D. series of semi-regular
Weekly Occasional Open Discussions.
(i.e. if I forget and skip one, no big)

Immediate prior one here:

and remains open for threads running there (at least until the ‘several month’ auto-close of comments on stale threads).

Canonical list of old ones here:

Things of interest

Many of these items were found on Bongino’s site:


What do we need more of? Individuals suing for lies about them, malicious acts like doxing, and denial of Civil Rights by governments doing illegal and immoral things.


Computer repair shop owner who obtained Hunter Biden laptop sues Twitter over ‘hacked materials’ claim
by Jerry Dunleavy, Justice Department Reporter | | February 19, 2021 11:40 AM

The former Delaware computer repair shop owner who says he came into possession of Hunter Biden’s laptop sued Twitter for a second time over how the social media platform handled a New York Post story on President Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, alleging the tech company defamed him by implying he was a hacker.

John Paul Mac Isaac filed his lawsuit on Thursday in the Southern District of Florida, claiming he was forced to shut down his business, in part, because Twitter labeled the contents of Hunter Biden’s laptop as being hacked materials, which he denied, and he said had caused damage to his reputation.

A prior lawsuit, also claiming defamation and demanding $500 million in damages, was filed in the same court and tossed out by a judge in late December over lack of jurisdiction. In his new lawsuit, Mac Isaac attempts to bypass the jurisdiction issue. He also says that there had been defamation damages greater than $75,000 and that the exact award amount could be determined after a trial.

And evidence manages to sneak out of censorship…


A new study from renowned University of Hamburg researcher Roland Wiesendanger concludes the Wuhan Institute of Virology was the “cause” of COVID-19.

The February study argues against two prevailing theories that COVID-19 was transmitted to humans either via a wet market or a lab accident.

“To date, there is no scientifically based rigorous evidence for either mentioned theories,” Wiesendanger, a three-time recipient of the prestigious European Research Council grant.

Wiesendanger’s 105-page report continues, asking: “is the current global crisis actually the result of a coincidence in nature – a coincidental mutation of a coronavirus a bat with the assistance of an intermediate host – or the result of a Scientist carelessness when carrying out the project is high-risk research with global pandemic potential?”

To answer the question, Wiesendanger cites 600 incontrovertible facts to bolster his theory that “the number and the quality of evidence clearly indicate a laboratory accident at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.”

A summary of the report outlines the primary arguments in favor of Wiesendanger’s case, emphasizing the fact that the host has still not been identified; the virus can “couple surprisingly well to human cell receptors”; The Wuhan lab “carried out genetic manipulations on coronaviruses for many years with the aim of making them more contagious, dangerous and deadly for humans”; and that there were “significant safety deficiencies” at the facility:

In contrast to earlier coronavirus-related epidemics such as SARS and MERS, until today, i.e. well over a year after the outbreak of the current pandemic, no intermediate host has been identified that has enabled the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 pathogens from bats to humans could. The zoonosis theory as a possible explanation for the pandemic therefore has no sound scientific basis.

The SARS-CoV-2 viruses can couple surprisingly well to human cell receptors and penetrate human cells. This is made possible by special cell receptor binding domains connected to a special (furin) cleavage site of the coronavirus spike protein. Both properties together were previously unknown in coronaviruses and indicate a non-natural origin of the SARS-CoV-2 pathogen.

A research group at the virological institute in the city of Wuhan has carried out genetic manipulations on coronaviruses for many years with the aim of making them more contagious, dangerous and deadly for humans. This is proven by numerous publications in the scientific specialist literature.
There were significant safety deficiencies in the virological institute in the city of Wuhan even before the outbreak of the coronavirus pandemic, which are documented.

There are numerous direct indications of a laboratory origin for the SARS-CoV-2 pathogen. A young scientist from the virological institute in Wuhan is said to have been infected first. There are also numerous indications that the SARS-CoV-2 pathogen spread from the virological institute in the city of Wuhan and beyond as early as October 2019. There are also indications of a corresponding investigation of the virological institute by the Chinese authorities in the first half of October 2019.

This one I found at this video:



Michigan Removes 177,000 Voters From Voter Rolls After Legal Challenge
Election watchdog calls settlement a check on voter fraud

Graham Piro – FEBRUARY 16, 2021 6:10 PM

The Michigan secretary of state removed 177,000 inactive voters from the state’s voter rolls after settling a legal challenge.

The state removed the names from the voter rolls in late January because the voters no longer live in the state or did not respond to the state’s inquiries about their addresses, according to a Tuesday district court announcement. The state performed the post-election audit during a legal battle with the Honest Elections Project, an election watchdog.

Jason Snead, head of the Honest Elections Project, which supported the lawsuit, said the state’s decision to remove the voters will help combat any allegations of voter fraud. “The last thing that we want is to create a system in which you could have widespread voter fraud or where it’s impossible to debunk false allegations of widespread voter fraud because you are undermining or failing to act on the necessary measures that help to prevent fraud and bolster confidence in the democratic process,” he said.

Any chance we can find out how many of them voted for Biden? Just sayin’…

Then from the Jeff Dunham Achmed file:


About 30 Taliban Die in Bombmaking Accident, Afghan Government Says

18 Feb 2021
Stars and Stripes | By J.P. Lawrence
KABUL, Afghanistan — About 30 Taliban militants were killed when they detonated a bomb they were learning how to assemble, the Afghan Defense Ministry said.

The blast occurred last week at a bombmaking course
in Afghanistan’s northern Balkh province, the statement said.

Six foreign fighters were among the militants who died in the incident, the Afghan military said. While the foreigners were not identified, militants from abroad — some affiliated with al-Qaida — have trained Taliban fighters to make bombs during the last two decades of war in Afghanistan.

That’s one heck of a final exam…

In other non-news on the news, CNN sucks:


Now that Trump is gone, banned from Twitter, and no longer on trial (again) in the Senate, the venerable “news” network is struggling to find a profitable source of outrage. As you might expect, Trump’s absence from the national discourse has been terrible for ratings.

On Feb. 8, one day before the start of Trump’s second impeachment trial, CNN led all cable news networks, averaging 332,000 total viewers and 483,000 primetime viewers in the coveted 25-54 age demographic.

On Feb. 15, two days after Trump was acquitted for the second time, CNN suffered a steep decline in ratings. The network averaged just 255,000 total viewers and 316,000 primetime viewers. Most disappointingly, CNN fell behind Fox News in terms of total viewers and trailed both Fox and MSNBC in primetime viewership.

Fox, meanwhile, surged from third to first and was the only cable network to gain viewers in the target demographic during that same period. Additionally, the network’s parent company, News Corp, announced a “historic” agreement with Google this week under which the media conglomerate will provide “trusted journalism” in exchange for “significant payments from Google.”

Wow… 1/4 Million Viewers and 1/3 of a million showed up for prime time. Isn’t that about the same as some small town out in the boonies? FWIW, that’s about 1/3 of the size of the City of Austin Texas or San Francisco, California. Think about it. They can’t even get 1/3 of the loony hard left San Francisco to watch? Just OMG.

Then this just in: Biden had been trying to get closer to an unregistered foreign agent, who has now been arrested. Gee, where did I hear about a political operative being busted for having incidental contact with an ‘unregistered foreign agent’?


A venture capitalist who ‘Team Biden’ sought to develop as a potential donor was sentenced to 12 years in prison on Thursday on a slew of federal charges, including illegal foreign lobbying.

Imaad Zuberi cultivated ties to the highest levels of the U.S. government and met with Joe Biden
and Barack Obama during their administration.

A longtime adviser to Joe Biden urged Hunter Biden in 2012 to stay in contact with Zuberi in order to bring him ‘a little closer to Team Biden.’

Zuberi lobbied for the Sri Lankan government.

Imaad Zuberi, a Pakistani-American venture capitalist who cultivated connections with Joe Biden when he served as vice president, was sentenced to 12 years in prison on Thursday on foreign lobbying and campaign finance charges.

Zuberi peddled influence at the highest levels of the U.S. government, meeting with both President Barack Obama and Biden during their administration. He also developed connections to prominent senators and House members of both political parties, which he leveraged to drum up overseas business deals.

Zuberi, 50, pleaded guilty in October 2019 to working as an unregistered foreign agent of Sri Lanka,
tax evasion and campaign finance violations.

In Conclusion

The world goes on. Nobody seems to care about differential application of rule of law. Not much is being done to stop the Democrats from stealing votes forever. More $Trillions going on the National Credit Card.

Will we need to ride this flight all the way to “impact with terrain”? Looks that way.

In the mean time, folks in Florida are just getting on with living life, and Trump is still popular.


Skip to the end, about 3 hours 7 minute mark, to see Trump do a Drive By for the crowd.

Going underground is not giving up. But these folks aren’t even going underground. The thing I find interesting is that there’s all of 2 cops on one side of the street, no helmets, no shields. A crowd that simply follows directions and is polite. That’s the Trump Supporter.

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217 Responses to W.O.O.D. – Life Goes On 20 Feb 2021

  1. another ian says:



    Looks like a “nice bloke” that Zuck

  2. another ian says:

    “Texas was prepared for global warming but not the return of the cold”

    “Renewables fans will point to this as mere incompetence. But if the government had built the “fifth largest nation” of windmills with all the cold bells and whistles, it would make them even more unaffordable. Anyone with infinite money can make wind plants more useful in cold weather, but it makes them more expensive all year.”


  3. another ian says:

    Interesting observation

    Aloha! We have a farm in Hawaii but due to ccp-19 stayed here in Texas. We live north of Houston. One thing I noticed driving around in the past couple weeks of cold I never saw a single EV car! I usually see Teslas and Audis and all sort of other EVs driving on roads here on normal weather.

    I am curious to know if they even work in sub-freezing temps. I had seen reports years ago that for Teslas the car entry did not work in a freeze. Anyone know much about that? I never hear from Tesla owners or other EVs during this cold outage.”


  4. H.R. says:

    Re Teslas and the cold: In my neck of the woods, we have a boatload of Teslas. However, since we’ve been snowbirding in Florida, there’s been no way for me to see if they are being driven in the Winter.

    I’ll have to ask my son if Teslas were running. He will have taken note because he wants one. No, not for greenie reasons. He wants one for the performance. I can’t argue with that. They can really up and skedaddle!

    So the home fort has been through this cold incursion and I have found it to be an odd weather event. As best I know, it never went below 0(F). Usually we get some below zero days during these Polar outbreaks, but not this one. That’s odd.

    OTOH, it was single digit(F) and teens(F) for much longer than I can remember going back about 20 or so years to the last long cold stretch like this. Usually, these cold incursions slide off to the East after a few days or maybe a week. This one hung around for a long time. That’s another oddity about this cold incursion.

    One last odd thing about this Polar outbreak is the snow. Usually we don’t get much snow with the cold spells because the air is too cold and dry. This weather system has been dropping 2″ here, 6″ there, and the random 4″ more when 2″ or 6″ of snow gets boring. The neighbor across the street sent us a picture of our house and the snow is quite deep; a bit over 2 feet or so. I think the Winter average for our area is about 30″ of snow, and we’ve had most of an average Winter’s snow in just a couple of weeks. No records, but this Winter system will put the year well into the above average snowfall category.

    So with all that, I’ll have to ask my son if the Teslas were oot and aboot and if he still wants one.

  5. Simon Derricutt says:

    The Perseverance rover landed on Mars OK, and put out its own tweet that it had landed OK. One leg wasn’t seated right on the rocks, though, and Perseverance was leaning to the right, so its twitter account was closed.

    On Texas, with the buy-in (wholesale) rate of $9000 per MWh at the peak, that’s been passed on to the customers who were getting power because they have smart meters and instant pricing. I noticed one customer commented on WUWT (or was it Jo Nova? I didn’t bookmark it) that he had a bill of over $17,000 for the month. So far I haven’t seen customer’s bills mentioned on the news, but only in such comments. Maybe the people who had the power cuts dodged the bullet of needing to pay so much to keep the lights on. They could have bought a generator and fuel for that money, and still have the generator for next time.

    Still, imagine charging a Tesla with 100kWh at around $9 per kWh (though it would likely be more since customer price is normally around twice wholesale). That’s getting on for (or possibly more than) what I paid for my car, just to charge it…. So H.R.’s son would maybe find it fun driving a Tesla, but he might find it cheaper to buy a second-hand F1 car.

  6. Simon Derricutt says:

    This is fun. Recently the French government was taken to court for not keeping its promises about climate change in the Paris agreement. It’s official defence is that wind and solar power have no effect on emissions, and have even possibly increased the CO2 emissions. See https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2021/02/19/bbc-replay-weather-disaster-losses-con-trick/#comment-181987 where there’s a bit of a translation and a link to the (in French) report. Who would have thought that shutting down nuclear plants and putting up windmills would result in more emissions? You’ve got to laugh….

    I got to thinking about this greenhouse effect idea, and given that the absorbance length for IR in the atmosphere (apart from the little “windows” with the main one being around 10 micron wavelength) is somewhere around 10-20m, the only greenhouse gases that have any effect on ground-based heat radiation will be within a few hundred metres of the ground. That includes the (variable) amount of water-vapour. Turns out that about the maximum temperature rise possible due to the CO2 rise since 1800 is around 0.27°C, with the rest being natural. It’s probably a lot less than that. Comment at https://revolution-green.com/common-mineral-key-tackling-climate-change/#comment-5273424102 . The approximations I made during the back-of-envelope calculation all tend towards CO2 being more important than it actually is as regards heating.

    All that effort and money spent, and it will make no difference to what the climate does.

  7. E.M.Smith says:

    I’ve seen a couple of reports of folks being P.O’s at the price of their electric bill. Often in the $Thousands. (Note to self: No “time of day” or “variable” pricing plan…)

    One report had an estimate of cost to charge a Tesla at $9000 at their rate.

    An eCar battery will lose power in extreme cold (and so lose range). A reasonable estimate being between 30% and 60% depending on just how cold. (Depending on battery heaters on board or other heat management strategies for a given maker). Figure you will get, maybe 100 to 200 miles max. THEN figure in that running the heater sucks up some of THAT range … so call it 50 – 100 miles in extreme cold with heater on high. Finally, CHARGING the battery in the Negative Degrees can damage it and permanently wreck it. You must heat the car / battery up enough to start charging it…

    So all in all, IMHO, eCars are “Fair Weather Vehicles” that you just don’t use when it is “below”… I’d maybe use one in the 20 F to 32 F range if it were garaged while charging and overnight. When you get to 0 F or below, I’d leave it on life support / charger / battery warmer in the garage. I’d not want to drive 50 miles, spend a while at work, and come out to find my “remaining range” had dropped below the 50 needed to get home as it froze in the lot…

    However, there is a lingering question that can Tesla battery run or be plugged in with ambient temperature below -22F for more than 24 hours as there’s a limitation in the Owner’s Manual, page 83?

    “Temperature limits

    Do not expose Model S to ambient temperatures above 140F (60C) or below -22F (-30C) for more than 24 hours at a time.”

    Then those nifty “pop out door handles” that live flush with the exterior? Seems they tend to ice shut… So park the car and run into the shopping mall, ice storm, and your car is now unable to open…


    Like all cars, looks like they a few other ‘stuck things’ issues too. You lose regenerative breaking (not clear why… does it know the ice is going to make you a hockey puck?) and one guy had his charging port frozen stuck, so there’s that.

    Some random samples (not from the particular comment in the link):

    “Expect to lose regen for a period of time (this is normal) and expend a lot of watts heating the battery but otherwise no worries!”

    During the coldest temps a few weeks back I had no trouble apart from the expected reduced range. It reached -28C and was below -20C for at leat a week. Parked outside at work for up to 8 or 10 hours, preheated for comfort, got in and drove without issue. Did have a little trouble with ice. The door handles smashed right through it but I couldn’t open the charge port. Heated it up with a hair dryer.

    Living on life support?

    I keep looking for spots that I can plug in, not for charging, just to keep the battery warm.

    Otherwise, I warm about 30min before I am ready to leave work and regen disable is usually about 30.

    This being a Tesla forum, they are all glowing and happy with their not-quite-a-disaster stories. Personally, I’d not be happy with door handles that sometimes freeze shut but this time didn’t and then not being able to charge without a hair dryer…

    Temp got to -13 but warmed up throughout the day and by the time I got in to go home it was +2. I forgot to pre-heat (oops) so I saw some interesting numbers on my ride home.

    First mile – 1850wh/mi
    First 2 miles – 1150wh/mi
    10 miles – 680wh/mi
    30 miles – 600wh/mi

    No other issues to report and it gave me a reason to do my first max charge. Still had plenty of juice after my 70 mile round trip.

    So happy with a 70 mile round trip not stranding him… I’m happy when my Diesel does 370 miles and has about 80 left in the tank…

    Then we find out it’s about a 20 mile range hit to pre-heat the car (and a wait of half an hour…) OR your range / kW-hr drop to 1/3 normal while it’s sucking e- to heat things up gradually rising back toward normal after a few miles. Looks like normal is about 0.6 kW-hr / mile. For me, at California prices, that’s 23.4 ¢ / mile (you will be over lifeline rates so the 39 ¢ / kW-hr tariff ought to apply). $100 miles – $24. My full size sedan Diesel gives me 100 miles off of 3 to 4 gallons depending on how I drive ;-) Even at outrageous California prices of $3.50 / gallon, that’s in the $10 to $14 range (MUCH cheaper in Texas as it’s about $2.30 / gallon there). To get to the tariff rate that matches that cost I’d need to be on lifeline ( 19 ¢) or some kind of subsidy.

    BTW, tariff requests are already filed to raise that to 50 ¢ / kw-hr here. And, in Central Valley California during summer when AC costs are high, they have a ‘variable rate plan’ that’s been running about $1 / kW-hr in the afternoons… So having a Tesla in very HOT places with variable rate plans might also “have issues”…

  8. E.M.Smith says:


    A couple of things we know:

    We have a Troposphere / Tropopause precisely because radiative cooling doesn’t work in dense wet air, so evaporation / convection / condensation cycle takes over. Adding CO2 will not make radiation “more useless” as it is already useless and other systems have taken on the heat transfer job.

    When water is removed from the air (desert nights, hard frosts) it gets COLD. Water is what is keeping us warm enough to be comfortable. It is what is keeping the radiative cooling door shut. Fiddling CO2 doesn’t change the fact that it’s the water that matters.

    The 70% of the planet that is oceans keeps most of the land wet too. Thus the air stays wet. Except in those few desert areas and at the very frozen poles (or during the hard freezes in big inland areas of northern continents – i.e. Midwest USA and Siberia…) BUT, when those areas go low humidity in winter, it gets very cold. The only thing added CO2 could do, is keep them just a tiny bit warmer when the water is sucked out of the air. Like maybe -5 F instead of -8 F. Nothing on the planet will find that a problem.

  9. cdquarles says:

    As far as I can tell, the only thing more IR active gases in the atmosphere can do is make the lapse rate (starts at -g/Cp) move toward the moist lapse rate (thus the ‘hotspot’ at altitude) and be there more of the time. That does *not* have to change the surface or near surface temperature (recall that’s the internal kinetic energy of a defined sample of matter and only its internal kinetic energy) at all. Given that water already covers most of the IR band, there is little opportunity for any other gas or vapor to matter near the surface. At altitude, that’s a different situation. And, it works both ways, let us not forget; to screen out incoming IR as well as outgoing IR.

  10. Nancy & John Hultquist says:

    Michigan secretary of state – – –

    Washington State (the actual left coast one) has a long history of mail-out and return voting. The return can be in several ways.

    The Secretary of State is Kim Wyman (Republican) who has a long history of managing voting. Last spring she warned other governors that mail voting required a steep and long learning curve. City, county, and state agencies, the USPS, and more have to coordinate on a serious and sustained basis.
    Doing in 3 to 6 months what WA and other states took years to do was a harebrained hope. Although I have seen some hares smarter than those pushing mail voting.

  11. Nancy & John Hultquist says:

    H.R. @ 11:24
    Regarding snow when cold – – – (likely known by those reading here, but I never know)
    A very cold air mass, continental polar source region (cP or cA)**, will not carry much H2O. Those from a warm and moist source region (mT), say the Gulf of Mexico, will carry H2O northward. When they meet, the dense (cold) air stays on the surface, the warm air rises. The speed at which they come toward each other determines the violence of the weather episode.
    **Air mass classifications

    Less well known is lifting caused by “cold air damming”. There are a couple of variations. We see this on the east slopes of the Washington Cascades, but it won’t happen in the Delta region.

  12. Nancy & John Hultquist says:

    S.D. @ 1:52
    “. . . Perseverance was leaning to the right, so its twitter account was closed.”

    That there is funny!

  13. E.M.Smith says:

    Interesting URL / news source. Ban Stuff, new sources arise…


  14. Nancy & John Hultquist says:

    “So happy with a 70 mile round trip not stranding him… I’m happy when my Diesel does 370 miles and has about 80 left in the tank…”

    Round trip to COSTCO and/or cardiologist is 100 miles on hilly roads. Frequently need heating or cooling. I haven’t seen charging stations at either place. {The Iowa State Capitol parking lots have (had) outlets for block heaters (~1970).}

    Our 2014 Forester matches your Diesel; 2016 Crosstrek does a little better (summer).

  15. Pinroot says:

    Michigan Removes 177,000 Voters From Voter Rolls After Legal Challenge
    Election watchdog calls settlement a check on voter fraud.

    @EM – Yeah, I think we’re all wondering how many of them voted for Biden…

    Interesting video here:

    From part of the video’s description:
    Rob Oswald: Officially COVID-19 it’s a flu & not a virus.
    “I have a PhD in virology and immunology. I’m a clinical lab scientist and have tested 1500 “supposed” positive Covid 19 samples collected here in S. California. When my lab team and I did the testing through Koch’s postulates and observation under a SEM (scanning electron microscope), we found NO Covid in any of the 1500 samples. What we found was that all of the 1500 samples were mostly Influenza A and some were influenza B, but not a single case of Covid, and we did not use the B.S. PCR test.
    We then sent the remainder of the samples to Stanford, Cornell, and a few of the University of California labs and they found the same results as we did, NO COVID. They found influenza A and B. All of us then spoke to the CDC and asked for viable samples of COVID, which CDC said they could not provide as they did not have any samples.

    There’s more, plus the video itself, and the description is basically a transcription of the video, which is about 3 minutes long.

    I’ve seen a few articles about power bills in Texas, mostly at non-MSM sites. I guess eventually it will hit MSM. The ones I’ve seen are outrageous.

    Sounds like Biden is back up to his old tricks:
    Biden Forces Out Prosecutor Investigating Powerful Democrats. I wonder if he’s threatening to withhold federal aid?

  16. philjourdan says:

    @Another Ian – Re: Electrical cars – kind of hard to use them when the power grid is down.

    Saddest news – Rush Limbaugh died this week.

  17. E.M.Smith says:


    Yeah, I skipped the Rush thing as it was pretty much 4-walled everywhere.

    Oh, and I was pondering pronouns and realize I only had 2 out of 3.
    He/ Him forgets His, so my updated “pronouns”:

    He who must be obeyed / My Lord and Master / The Great One’s

    Just so any Leftist who wants to know “my pronouns”, those pronominal phrases are them.

    Anyone from The Right can use whatever they like, but He / Him / His are the usual. But anyone left of Goldwater? Better use My Pronouns, or you are courting Social Death for lack of Sensitivity and being prone to Hate Speech!!! Just sayin’…

    ;-0 for those who need it, and NOT for ANY Leftist Progressives. YOU are OBLIGATED to ALWAYS use “My Pronouns”.

  18. another ian says:

    “Mega-thread breaks down where all of the Covid-19 relief money in the House bill is going (HINT: NOT TO YOU)”


  19. another ian says:

    Looks like “bigger than Smithfield”

  20. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    Unfortunately, I’ve come to the conclusion that ANY “money bill” going through congress is entirely about payola, graft, parasitism, and theft.

    Just too many examples of it.

    Yeah, a little of the money goes to run the Agencies, but they largely seem to exist to churn out justifications for the payola, graft, parasitism, and theft. So there’s that.

    Were it up to me, I’d set the State Department budget equal to 80% of their committed salaries, the Education budget to Zero (we did better before Carter made a federal Dept. of Ed.), the NSF grants to zero, and ALL foreign aid and such to zero. I’d also ban ALL funding that goes to ANY “NGO”. Oh, and nuke funding for most of the EPA too.

    Basically, I’d cut the Federal Government back as close to nothing as I could with only minor exceptions for the Military and Post Office. States don’t need 90% of the “services” of the Federal Government.

  21. cdquarles says:

    Rumor has it they’re bring back old school earmarks. Wait a minute … didn’t they just rename them? ;p Looking at that thread, it sure looks like earmarks never went away, in reality.

  22. philjourdan says:

    @EMS – it needs to be 8 walled. Hate conservatives? How about saving AM radio. DO not like his views? How about saving an Industry? Rush was a great man. For his views alone. But if you do not agree with his views, he saved an industry.

    That should have gotten a mention.

    For those of us not privileged to have a father who gave a damn, Rush came through.; Yes he was my age, But he spoke what we knew was true.

    I have only cried 3 times as an adult. When my grandmother died. When my mother died. And when Rush died.

    Ban me if you want. I will not stop carrying on his legacy.

  23. Taz says:

    We will regret not pushing out more residential fiber instead of this cellular duct tape.

    Failures of the cellular network in Texas were massive. Very few towers had generators and fuel.

    In contrast, one can keep passive fiber (no repeaters) going indefinitely with simple tools. It’s a good public investment – especially if public wifi was fully implemented per EFF’s vision: https://www.eff.org/pages/openwirelessorg

  24. Ed Forbes says:

    Couple of links I find interesting:

    Ongoing election court cases

    CA gun law court cases showing case fillings and status

    magazines holding more than ten rounds of ammunition

    challenge to California’s Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control Act (AWCA) ban on common firearms and common characteristics the State pejoratively calls “assault weapons,”

    The Basic Check, with its $19 fee for a single-ammunition-purchase check, is plainly unconstitutional in its own right.

  25. E.M.Smith says:


    Why would I ban you? I’ve only ever banned 2 persons in a dozen years, and only one in the last 10… Both for being nasty and insulting. You are neither.

    I was lucky enough to first hear Rush on LOCAL AM Radio when he first started out with one station. In Sacramento IIRC. Got to listen as he developed and improved, then went nation wide. 740 AM or 1530? Something like that.

    I just don’t see a value add in my typing an article saying what everyone is already reading in a dozen other places…

  26. E.M.Smith says:

    @Ed Forbes:

    I’ve managed to predict what was coming a decade or two in advance, so I’ve not bought any ammunition in California for about 20 years. Between what I “bought ahead” and then buying all the reloading gear and supplies I might need, I’ve been able to just ignore their silly back door gun registration via ammunition attempt.

    Now I’m at the point where the last time went shooting was 2? years ago. So my remaining supply is likely a lifetime supply. I am a bit low on .357 Magnum, but I can reload it (and 9mm). Only the .40 S&W is something I need to buy, but that’s for inter-operation with the Police IF needed, so I don’t shoot it anyway…


    Most places that do have a Diesel backup generator have one tank of fuel. They expect fuel deliveries after that. With roads closed under a sheet of ice, that doesn’t happen… You get maybe 8 hours, then it’s done.

  27. another ian says:

    “Voting Machine fr@ud:
    MIT prodigy mathematically proves, using pattern analysis, that voting machines in Massachusets used algorhythms to weight votes on a ratio of 0.66 to 1.2. One candidate’s votes were given a number of 0.66 votes and the other’s 1.2 votes. The analysis shows how this inevitably resulted in more ‘votes’ being cast than there were electors recorded as voting.

    Federal Court upholds this analysis and denies the Application by the State Governor and Elections Secretary to strike out his legal claim against the state officials.

    Video with very detailed explanations here: https://vashiva.com


  28. Ed Forbes says:

    EM…I shoot in competitions (badly 😳). Currently, if you don’t reload, you don’t compete.
    I limit my reloads to 45acp, 380acp, & 9mm, with pistols and carbines in both 45 & 9.

    Lately I have gone to airsoft for training. With higher quality airsoft M4’s and 1911’s using weighted blowback, the simulation is quite good. MUCH cheeper to operate and I can practice in my back yard.

    One of the better Christmas jokes of the season
    Santa reading a Christmas wish list: “Where in HELL does he think I am going to find 2 boxes of 9mm!!”

  29. The True Nolan says:

    @another ian: You may have already seen this earlier video by Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai about vote fraud in Michigan.

    Also interesting is this second video by Stand-up Maths supposedly “debunking” Ayyadurai.

    Stand-up Maths usually does good work — but he drops the ball here. You will probably see his errors. I found it particularly interesting because he is a bright guy, but is (apparently!) overwhelmed by some non-rational part of his character.

  30. Ed Forbes says:

    this is the state court case that has allowed discovery in Michigan. Getting discovery is a VERY big step.

    Click to access 5fd3f5267bc4b.pdf.pdf


    Bailey v. Antrim County No. 20-9238-C2 (Antrim Michigan Circuit Court)

  31. E.M.Smith says:


    I’ve been watching that for a half hour now and mostly it’s just him asserting He Invented Email in 1978… Except it was already in Unix then (and had been for a few years…)

    His “claim” seems to be based on some hair brained definition of Unix mail as “just text messaging”. Well, no.

    He may well have copyright in the word EMAIL (but I doubt that too…). It was definitely in common use as a term for it in 1982 when I was managing a LOT of email services at Apple… (We had both Unix Mail in Engineering AND a different corporate Email system for the rest of the company running on Dec Vax machines under their OS).

    Neither of them had any relationship to his work and were already in wide use nation wide and had been for years.

    FWIW, IIRC, I was using some kind of email in the mid-70s at University. We had interconnection to other University campuses and sent “text messages” back and forth over our interconnect. I just don’t remember the exact system we used. I do remember reading a mail message from a campus in the L.A. Basin.

    So for him to lay claim to “inventing email” requires using his definition of requiring every single feature he coded into his system and not any alternatives. That’s a bogus definition. Just because my first email experience didn’t have a bcc: line on it doesn’t make it “not email”. From, To, Subject, Text. That’s plenty. That existed in the late ’60s to early ’70s.

    So I find that colors my trust in his claims…

  32. jim2 says:

    The Gates fund “math is racist” junk

    The number of such shocking news is absolutely terrifying these days. But this one was particularly disappointing minutes ago:

    Rantz: Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation bankrolls ‘math is racist’ lunacy


  33. jim2 says:

    Shiva has sued people over the email thing and he apparently convinced a judge he did invent it. However, ARPANET had email apparently.


    Electronic mail (email or e-mail) is a method of exchanging messages (“mail”) between people using electronic devices. Email entered limited use in the 1960s, but users could only send to users of the same computer, and some early email systems required the author and the recipient to both be online simultaneously, similar to instant messaging. Ray Tomlinson is credited as the inventor of email; in 1971, he developed the first system able to send mail between users on different hosts across the ARPANET, using the @ sign to link the user name with a destination server. By the mid-1970s, this was the form recognized as email.


  34. philjourdan says:

    @EMS – Why? The same reason all the conservative sites are caving and removing comments. The same reason NewsMax forbid talk of the election to be stolen on air. The same reason that talk of the election being stolen or that HCQ works or that Masks do not work gets removed from Fakebook, eewtube, twatsRus, and all the other masters sites.

    Hollywood mental morons are out on twatsRus posting the most vile things about Rush. And twatsRus is doing nothing. Excepting banning anyone who speaks out against them.

    I know you are not twatsRus. But how about American Thinker? CNS News? DailyWIre? Daily Caller?

    They have all banned comments. And many more. Welcome to 1984.

  35. E.M.Smith says:


    My only real rule is to be polite and not insult folks. That’s only proved impossible for 2 people so far… (Oh, and a couple of words that are NSFW tend to land in SPAM like F-bombs… but I think that is a subset of ‘be polite’… so I do like to keep things ‘work friendly’ on vocabulary. Somewhere between PG-13 and not quite R)

    I hold that what opinion a person has, and speaks, is theirs alone, and all good or bad that attaches to it belongs to them. So none of my business, really. Similarly, “facts just are”, so someone wants to say they observed election fraud and presents a video of it, that’s just the facts and their opinion of what they mean.

    Though if someone wanted to go on a rant fest about Zionists or some such I’d likely end up telling them to stop it due to it not being polite to smear a whole group that way and it was insulting to them too. Yet if the person wanted to complain about a particular treatment they had experienced, well, that would be them retelling a bit of their personal lived experience, so again, not my place to say much about it.

    Like my story of being in a Bar with my Black MotorCycle Buddy when 2 other Black Guys came in (in brown leather jackets). He went on a kind of mild alert watching them. I asked if he wanted to invite them over (misinterpreting his state as maybe recognition…). His answer? “Those Two Ni..words? No way!” He’d alerted on them as they were ‘hood’ types and he knew it… That’s just a true story. I can’t un-live it. It happened. Depending on context, it may or may not be polite to retell it at any given time, but it can’t be changed and still be accurate. Similarly it’s just a fact that Blacks have about 10% denser bones, so he’d sink in the pool and I’d float easily. Someone want’s to ban me for facts, not my problem but theirs is on display.

    We’ll see if that causes WordPress to have a hissy or not. I’ve got backups and can recandle to my own installation in about 2 days (need a domain reg…) if it ever comes to that.

  36. Ed Forbes says:

    Texas power issue caused by refusal of DOE to allow generators to run at capacity unless customers charged a minimum of $1500/MW
    Should be short hearings on why Texas consumer electric prices spiked.

    Click to access DOE%20202%28c%29%20Emergency%20Order%20-%20ERCOT%2002.14.2021.pdf

    Link Text (added by -E.M.S.): “https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2021/02/f82/DOE%20202%28c%29%20Emergency%20Order%20-%20ERCOT%2002.14.2021.pdf”

  37. Ed Forbes says:

    Posted a link for above but it only shows the 1st page ??

  38. another ian says:

    And a serious “lot about it”

    One which goes into why the wind turbines iced up in Texas whereas they might not further north. Plus what electricity came from what

    “The Texas Energy Disaster”


  39. E.M.Smith says:

    @Ed Forbes:

    Good one! But they would need to be solar charged or powered by windmills ;-)

    PDFs often only display the first page, and you need to open them with a pdf reader of some sort to flip through the pages. Most browsers with ‘click to open’ will do it.

  40. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh, and on the subject of banning folks:

    In the dumping of SorryOhSo, I learned that WordPress has a “Ban Button”. One click, and “away go troubles, down the drain”… So that leads me to the conclusion that A LOT of “banning” gets done on various WordPress sites. When you build in a “one click tool” for something, it’s common…

    We’ll see if it is still there in 6 years (average of 12 years / 2 folks…) when the issue will come up again… on average…

  41. Simon Derricutt says:

    EM – on banning, I’ve noticed there’s been an uptick in people people who haven’t commented on our site before putting up just a hidden link in a comment, and where the previous comments were obviously from a real person but from maybe 5 years ago. I consider these spam, and that the identity has been taken over by a bot, so permanently ban them. I’d figure that sites with a lot more comments would get a lot more of these types of spam, so the single-button banning would be useful.

  42. jim2 says:

    City of Austin’s brilliant energy plan for the future, written especially for them by Sierra Club …


  43. The True Nolan says:

    @ E.M. I look at “I invented email” claims as roughly the same as “who invented radio?” The truth is, neither “email” nor “radio” are clearly defined things, so a lot of different people had their fingers stuck into the pie. Shiva’s claim did nothing more to me than trigger a slight “academicians claiming top spot on the dung heap” warning. Regardless, I think that his figures on vote fraud are HIGHLY concerning. Proof? Of course not, not when “proof” is even more nebulous a word than “email”! But certainly I would call it evidence and something that warrants official unbiased investigation — which will almost certainly not happen. We’re more likely to see space aliens at the White House.

  44. E.M.Smith says:


    That’s a big part of why I went to closing comments after a few months (even though I’m theoretically opposed to it). Too often the comments were SPAM not a necro-bump from a real person.

    The Spam Bots put SPAM on all open threads, even the ones with no remaining interest (like a live video of something without persistent interest…). By having comments auto-close after a few months, my SPAM queue load dropped by about 90% …


    I don’t just toss out his assertions or “findings”, but rather note his tendency to over assert and make claims on thin foundation…

    I do think he has found something a bit interesting, but I can’t just accept his assertion that “the only way” to get it is a .66 multiplier. Essentially, I have to see proof of all the links, now, since I can see he has been prone to ‘over claim’ in the past and that he’s prone to ‘over response’ (i.e. suing all over the place and being fixated for 1/2 hour on a personal slight in a video that’s supposedly devoted to something else…)

    But he may well have found something. Just needs more “proving up”.


    Note To Self:

    Do not move to, live in, or even plan to spend time during winter in Austin and surrounding areas…

  45. another ian says:

    “Let’s Review 50 Years Of Dire Climate Forecasts And What Actually Happened”


    Via SDA

  46. jim2 says:

    TTN said: “We’re more likely to see space aliens at the White House.”

    You may have hit upon our current problem!!!

  47. E.M.Smith says:


    Other interesting stuff in that JudithCurry link:


    It doesn’t add up… | February 18, 2021 at 10:58 pm |
    It is evident there were cascading trips just after 2 a.m. on the 15th: there was a loss of some 9.2GW of generation in short order. The following hours show a steep but slower ramp down that was likely mainly the result of progressively lowered gas supply as pipeline pumping was interrupted.

    Early reports on e.g. abc13 Houston refer to underfrequency trips. Essentially, ERCOT got behind the curve on imposing blackouts to restore the supply demand balance, leaving the grid under underfrequency and triggering more trips. Once tripped, power stations soon had no way back.

    The hourly data show wind declining from 9GW at 6 p.m. on the 14th to 5.2GW at 2 a.m. the next day. Normally you would expect demand to tail off through the evening, so this may not have been directly critical, except to the extent that it added locational pressures. Wind died later to just 649MW at 8 p.m. on the 15th.

    Which tends to confirm my speculation here:

    Gas was ramped up “way high” covering for loss of wind, solar, and the added demand all over the place; then it was unable to keep up as natural gas supplies were hitting the wall. Then you get a major plunge as gas plants trip off line, then a minor hit that’s mostly irrelevant from one nuke dropping (about the same as the capacity of solar, i.e. about 1 GW out of a 50 GW problem space). A small amount of coal trips off too (we know it was a trip as coal has fuel on site and basically likes to just keep running). Coal holds at about the same as the average of the prior weeks.

    Gas continues to produce about 4 x the amount of the prior week, and keeps total supply about the same as in prior weeks, but the excess demand was blowing through that, causing cascade failure and trips… and starving some gas supplies.

    Once you “hit the wall” and enter a cascade failure of the grid, it’s hard to come back. Look at the outages that hit New England, New York and Canada some decades back. No excess demand. No horrible weather. Just a cascade failure causing tripping after a bit of EMP / Solar Storm surge. Took out most of the Eastern Grid in the process and took days to recover fully.

  48. E.M.Smith says:


    OMG! You’re right! That explains everything!! The masks to hide their breathing apparatus so they can breath our air, the strange shuffling gate, the distorted speech and having trouble with out language, the sort of gaunt plastic look to the mask-face…

    for the humor impaired…

  49. jim2 says:

    Natural gas is used in the Winter in Texas for residential heating in many cases. Not so much is used for cooking in the Summer, but during the freeze, the generators were competing the residential use. Double whammy.

  50. DoNoNorth says:

    Well it seems that what used to be called the Congress is now dropping hints to the cable companies and streaming device manufacturers such as Roku that they just might want to start deplatforming those sources of information that are not approved by the country’s new masters.


  51. philjourdan says:

    @DoNoNOrth – Saw that. Maybe that is why Fox threw the election? Regardless, I do not watch news on TV. I watch news on the Internet (read it for the age impaired).

    Fox does not need the cable companies. It has the Internet. But it is very troubling that the democrats have gone whole hog into totalitarianism. Fascism anyone?

  52. E.M.Smith says:


    Tim Pool’s take on it here:

    So I guess pretty soon we’ll all need to be getting any real news via things like peertube…

    We really desperately need some of these speech banners to be held liable for compromising our Civil Rights to free speech and hit with a few $Millions of damages…

    Oh Well…

    FWIW, a brief recapitulation of my “News” consumption habits:

    1) About the 1990’s to 2000’s I was a regular news hound. I’d do a ‘rotation’ through major news sources on broadcast TV and cable / satellite. CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, Fox and the odd others. Then they started to almost all be echos of each other with only Fox having counterpoint. Sometimes I could get BBC news too.

    2) I added a lot of the Financial News like CNBC, Bloomberg, and some others as they pretty much had to not get things too wrong or folks lost money and stopped using them. But then they started drinking some of the koolaid too (eventually with Bloomberg going hard political as he decided to be a politician).

    3) Foreign News was now showing itself superior, so CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC became occasional and about the 2010 era, I was adding in RT, Sky, Al Jazeera, NHK sometimes, and other odd bits. Especially useful during Middle East Wars, I’d often have cameras on both sides of any conflict – USA news on “our” side and RT/ AJ on the “other” side.

    4) By about 2015 the Major Networks had become cesspools of propaganda and if you watched one of them then shifted the “dial” got the same verbiage on the next one. Folks started making humor meme / videos of dozens of “Talking Heads” all chanting the same Talking Points in unison. I stopped watching CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNBC, Fox and Fox Business too. What was the point? No real news was there.

    5) I switched to the Roku in there somewhere and picked up interesting other news from around the world, along with various ‘odd’ channels. NewsMax was there, but not very good (just starting out, not much in the way of funding or name presenters, etc.) and some news aggregators (like Pluto TV that has several on it). A bunch of news was now coming from YouTube videos and other sources. Fox was not on the Roku, so when I killed our Satellite bill, Fox went with it. But it had become less news and more Commentary anyway. I got more news from web pages all around the planet and some from the Roku. This overlaps with #4 in that for a little while I’d do a “regular news” rotation on the Roku, but that ended over time.

    6) In the last, roughly, one year, I’ve had 2 ROKU devices fail (both “sticks” where I think their heat management is too poor). I didn’t replace them. My consumption of news shifted 100% to “Internet Sources”. We still have one Roku in the living room, but it’s mostly for pure entertainment stuff. I can get Pluto TV and more directly in a browser, so why bother? I’ve occasionally sampled CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, etc on the one Roku, but really found it so riddled with TDS and flat out BS that I just could not stand to watch it for more than a few minutes. I’ve now stopped sampling as “what’s the point?”.


    At present, I do sometimes pick up some news from places like RT, AJ, Sky, etc. But even then it is mostly via “video sites”. Originally YouTube, but now with them going all Stalin Purge even that’s moved to Odysee, Bitchute, etc.

    So, in short, what has The Left managed to do by being all Jihadi Stalinist Purge and forced propaganda compliance? They have driven away the audience in general, and me in particular. I no longer give a damn about “news” programs. Just no ‘there there’.

    I now prowl various web sites, news aggregators, and use a non-Googly DuckDuckGo search engine to find news. Often from newspapers and TV in other countries. Good luck with trying to tell the Israeli News or Pakistani News or RT or Argentine news or even the Australian News what they can and can’t say.

    I’ve also begun an active process of moving things to the Dark Web. Just “for that day”. And to help others be ready for that day too.

    That’s the problem with a Regime Of Darkness and Propaganda. All you do is drive your opponents underground where you can’t get intel on them, and drive them away from your propaganda outlets as the stuff is just so obviously lame.

    Oh, and through it all my beliefs have stayed the same. I didn’t change as “I am a finished person”. The Alt-left took over the networks and they changed.

  53. The True Nolan says:

    Just a fun site to browse, “The Dictionary of Obscure Sorrows”.

  54. E.M.Smith says:


    It is just the natural consequence of the DNC selling out to China. They are just implementing the CCP Systems here, nothing more. It is all part of the destruction of traditional American Values that the Left wants.

  55. philjourdan says:

    @EMS – I know. But for the short term, we need to sue their asses off as violation of the Constitution (until they revoke that the way ChiCOms revoked the 99 HK accord).

    Democrats are illegitimate and morally bankrupt. And now they know how to steal elections.

    So what are our options? The founders gave it to us. 2A. I believe it is time, We do outnumber them. And there will never be another fair election in this country. Period.

  56. E.M.Smith says:


    I’d like to think we are not yet at the 2A point. Then again, SCOTUS just ruled that when it comes to Democrats Fraudulently Stealing Elections:

    1) You can not bring a case before the election as it isn’t ripe.
    2) You can not bring a case during the election (standing / reasoning unclear…) and now
    3) You can not bring a case AFTER the election as then it is moot.

    This means defacto: ALL election fraud is free of the encumbrance of legality and threat of suits…

    With elections now 100% fraudulent and NO legal recourse, I’m not seeing the alternatives to remedy it.

    It is going to be an interesting time, watching the DNC try to make America into a CCP Clone society. IMHO far too many Americans are either so completely oblivious to it, or on side with it, or just too lazy to be bothered, that I’m not seeing effective opposition form.

    For now, at least, I’m hanging my hat on “grass roots” efforts starting at the County level to “fix it”. There’s a LOT more Red Counties than Blue, so that’s where to start. Yet Another “Long march through the institutions”. Take back the School Boards, the County Supervisors, the County (and then eventually State) D.A.s offices. Etc.

    I doubt I’ll live long enough to see it finish. But in the mean time I’m going to be a parasite on Left Wing Systems while moving my assets to Red States / Counties. Yeah, passive aggressive, not 2A, but realistically, I’m too old for this shit. Arthritic marching and bi-focals aiming and needing an afternoon nap does not make for an effective opposition either… So what I can do is collect my Medicare and maybe share with some kids my perspective on life… while I bury some gold in a mason jar under the fig tree…

  57. H.R. says:

    @E.M. – If you’re feeling a might creaky, this will level the playing field for you.

  58. another ian says:


    More on cascading trips and near misses

    “Texas dodged a bullet: Would you like explosions with your blackouts?”


  59. E.M.Smith says:


    My shoulder hurts just thinking about it. Last time I went skeet shooting I used my 20 Ga. as the 12 Ga after a box the prior time had left me a tiny bit sore… (Then again, I’d also shot some magnum slugs after the box of dove loads, so there’s that ;-)

    The idea of 30 rds of full mag 12 gauge in a minute does not make me want to run out and try it… 8-{‘)

  60. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    That’s an interesting take on things. I knew that a gas shutoff meant a very long slow restart (earthquake country we know this… and have a gas shutoff wrench hanging on our gas meters too…). Essentially one house at a time.

    Didn’t know they had any potential for backflow in to the pipes. I’d just figured they would keep it all at a lb or so of pressure and not worry… well below full pressure but enough to prevent intrusions. (After a big quake with potential breaks, that’s not the case…)

    I think they are overstating the difficulty of restarting the Grid. Texas would not be in a complete dark like Venezuela. They have coal and nuke plants that would stay running, even if disconnected from the grid for a while, then would build back out from them one station / grid box at a time. Similarly, I’m pretty sure some of the gas plants have standby power (or worse case you haul a truck sized Diesel box up to them to get the restart going). It would be a mess, but doable – even if a bit PITA and slow and needing very careful bring-up of grid boxes. Oh, and IIRC, they have 3 DC interties that could deliver restart power to sections of their grid.

    Yeah, they would have to strongly segment it, then build back out from working areas one block at a time, but we’ve done that in California after various blackouts of regions. IIRC it was about 3 days here the last time. (Then again, the weather was good, roads were clear, and shipping was working…)

  61. another ian says:

    In comments there

    “The Quote is excellent

    “We now live in a nation where doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the press destroys information, religion destroys morals, and our banks destroy the economy.”


  62. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh My! I just revisited Peertube to see what the state of operations are now. It’s pretty good. Watch a few videos without any dropouts / buffering. More variety.

    It does have a very high percentage of non-English content with what looks like a big presence of French (which is OK with me as I can read / usually understand French), but also some other languages; along with the usual dominance of English.

    Index / entry point here:


    I think I’m going to do an article of “some instances” showing stuff I found of merit. Probably a few days out. For now, this guy does some interesting computer security stuff:

    And from an entirely different POV, a political “Clownworld pt. 13” cut (NSFW …)

    Not something I’d normally go looking for, but an indicator of how individuals run their own show and can do what they want.

    Do note that Peertube is a Bittorrent tech based system, so your IP address gets shared with the various folks holding a video who send you slices of it. IF you want anonymity, use a VPN or similar…

    It does look like Peertube has reached the “take off” point. Enough seeders and users to make it viable. So time for me to revisit it with some “Dive & Post”…

  63. E.M.Smith says:

    supposedly this is the Gates Documentary per vaccines “revived”…

  64. Kneel says:

    EM: ” States don’t need 90% of the “services” of the Federal Government.”

    States (pollies) WANT feds to take over: then they can blame someone else when the inevitable screwup happens.
    Feds (deep state) WANT to take over: more budget, more staff, more power.
    Feds can always claim it only screws up in your state, everyone else is fine.
    So very hard to change in under, say, 30-50 years or so – or a revolution (viva la revolicion!)
    Not saying you shouldn’t try, but that is what you are up against – both sides want the Feds in charge. So good luck with that – you’ll need it. And maybe an exercise of your 2nd amendment rights too :-) (Disclaimer: NOT to be taken as advocating violence)

  65. E.M.Smith says:

    Because laughing is fun:

  66. another ian says:

    Might be of interest

    “anybody else diving in on starlink satnet?

    “Speed will double to ~300Mb/s & latency
    will drop to ~20ms later this year.” ”


  67. jim2 says:

    I don’t want a new car due to the privacy invasive features, but ICE efficiency is inching up.

    Speaking at the SAE High-Efficiency IC Engine Symposium preceding this week’s WCX19 conference in Detroit, the lead researcher for a long-running, Delphi Technologies-directed program to maximize the thermal efficiency of gasoline engines said the latest developments show promise for delivering a production-ready gasoline engine that approaches 50% thermal efficiency.

    Mark Sellnau—who until recently leaving Delphi for employment at Aramco—directed the program to develop Delphi’s gasoline direct-injection compression-ignition (GDCI) combustion system and presented results of testing of the third-generation of the GDCI 4-cylinder engine dubbed Gen3X. Sellnau summarized the analysis in recent a SAE technical paper extensively detailing the Gen3X advances (SAE 2018-01-0901), by saying the advances applied to the Gen3X engine brought its brake thermal efficiency (BTE) to 43.5%.


  68. E.M.Smith says:


    Only problem is that you have auto manufacturers falling all over themselves to announce no new ICE cars ever. Mercedes has said they have designed their last gas engine, FORD have announced only electric cars for Europe going forward, etc.

    So that engine will only be in cars made in China… ’cause they get to buy and use oil.

  69. YMMV says:

    I look forward to the day when cars have only electric motors AND nuclear power generators instead of batteries. Until then, let Europe be the guinea pig.

  70. another ian says:

    “Climate Propaganda burns out: neither hope or doom works on audiences anymore”


  71. David A says:

    Occasionally I take a break from all politics and retreat to various science stories. WUWT had a geology post…
    Which got me thinking about ice ages and interglacials. I put together this comment on potential causes and would enjoy any feedback…

    Rah, I agree, although claims of “Mystery of missing Ice Solved” may be a bit grandiose, as there are numerous admitted assumptions in their hypothesis.

    Yet repeated cycles of glaciation are an interesting puzzle, particularly cogent as we are near a projected end of the current interglacial. So some thoughts…

    “Harvard researched the interrelationship between historical increases in land based volcanic activity and the end of ice ages. They limited the scope of their research to land-based volcanoes and land-based glacial ice sheets. The data showed that the end of ice ages, when glacial ice sheets rapidly began to melt / retreat, coincided with dramatic increases in land-based volcanic activity. Based on this information, Harvard theorized that atmospheric warming occurred first and was therefore the root cause of deglaciation. It worked like this:

    1. The atmosphere was suddenly and somehow warmed by an unknown energy source.
    2. This warmed atmosphere acted to dramatically melt / thin worldwide glacial ice sheets.
    3. Thinned ice sheets reduced overburden pressure on previously ice sheet buried land volcanoes effectively “uncorking” / activating them. The uncorked volcanoes spewed huge amounts of CO2 and heat into the atmosphere which acted to further increase atmospheric warming.
    Result? End of an ice age period’
    ( Many ? On the last, no indication CO2 led any part of the atmospheric warming)

    A Lamont- Doherty study interrelated this way…

    1. When an unknown energy source suddenly and somehow warmed the atmosphere, glacial ice sheets were melted.
    2. Large amount of melt water acted to dramatically raise sea levels.
    Higher sea levels increased downward pressure on sub-oceanic volcanoes, which acted to “cork” / deactivate sub-oceanic volcanoes.
    3. Conversely, when the unknown energy source suddenly and somehow turned off the atmosphere cooled.
    4. Cooler atmospheric temperatures acted to rebuild worldwide ice sheets and in the process steal water from the oceans.
    5. As sea levels dropped, less pressure on sub-oceanic volcanoes acted to “uncork” / activate deep ocean volcanoes. These volcanoes began spewing CO2 and heat into the ocean.
    According to Lamont-Doherty the result of this complex series of events fits well with the Harvard research.

    My thoughts vary, yet follow somewhat along these lines…

    In the depth of an ice age, geothermal on land is suppressed ( it still occurs, but at a reduced level) by the pressure of massive ice sheets, and geo thermal in the oceans is perhaps increased by lower sea levels, and therefore reduced pressure ( not a great deal but an average gradual increase in geo thermal to the oceans, also affected by changes in the Earth’s axial rotation or its solar orbit which may put stress on the planet’s crust, inducing global increases and at times decreases in continental and sub-oceanic volcanic activity (Milankovitch Cycles)
    This change of geothermal release points from oceans to land and vice versa may also altar the mantle flow underneath the crust.

    Also the heat loss of the oceans would likely be reduced by far larger sea ice sheets. The oceans, like the atmosphere, release more of their warmth further poleward. If that heat is somewhat restricted by large ice caps, and lower oceans in conjunction with suppressed land geothermal leading to greater geothermal to the oceans and reduced ocean heat loss, possibly further reduced by slower ocean currents, the oceans could undergo a very gradual warming.

    This gradual ocean warming may be further increased by reduced cloud cover associated with a colder atmosphere, allowing more tropical and subtropical sunshine over the non ice capped portion of the global oceans.

    The combination;
    1. Somewhat suppressed land geo thermal and increased ocean geothermal, ultimately further increased by changes in mantle viscosity flow…
    2. Possibly reduced ocean current velocity leading to increased residence time of energy in the oceans
    3. Increased solar insolation into the oceans slowly absorbed to depth by the thermohaline current.
    4. Reduced ocean heat loss via greatly increased insulating sea ice caps, further increasing the warmth of the thermohaline current taking solar insolation to depth.

    All leads to a slowly warming ocean while the atmosphere stays very cool due to Milankovitch Cycles, greatly increased albedo, and the solar energy over the oceans stealing, for a time, that energy from the atmosphere, as the oceans absorb that energy and can’t release it back to the atmosphere as quickly due to expanded poleward sea ice caps.

    The oceans are capable of holding and hiding from the atmosphere immense heat.
    If that heat slowly builds and builds, and other factors like Milankovitch cycles harmonise said increase, the warmed oceans could eventually induce a rapid large scale melting of the global oceans sea ice caps, releasing immense heat into the atmosphere. This could be the energy source missing in the Harvard studies.

    Thus an interglacial is born, and you have geological reports of immensely warmer waters off Greenland etc…
    And you then see a gradual release of said ocean heat ( built up over 100 k years) over the duration of the interglacial, each ocean release coming in cycles, leading to the warming periods we see over the last 18 k years or so, each warm period cooler then the last, until the oceans have cooled enough, and the Milankovitch cycles harmonises with the cooler oceans, and volcanism slightly suppressed within the oceans, and reduced ocean uptake of solar, all lead to the oceans cooling enough to kick start the next glaciation period.

    So, in my conjecture, the oceans are both the heat trigger and cooling factor for both ending and beginning ice age interglacial periods.

    Well, nothing wrong with speculation…

  72. p.g.sharrow says:

    Any study into the causes of the “Ice Age” and “inter-glacial”s must take into consideration Gas pressure laws and heat flows, “R” values, of the medium involved.

    Our World is a “Water Planet”, It’s atmosphere and climate are much a function of all that water. Go to any tall mountain and examine the existence of the snow line as that is the marker of the elevation of permanent glaciation at that latitude under the atmospheric gas pressure and mainly solar provided energy to the surface and the Resistance to heat flows into space. Without that water the Earth would have the surface conditions of our Moon.

    The creation of our world created deep basins that contain most of these waters as well as restricts their circulations caused by the worlds rotation under the tug of the gravities of the Sun and Moon. While the Sun provides a lot of energy to the surface waters, the deep waters are heated Geo-thermally, “Heat rises” it does not sink because colder atoms take up less space then the warn ones and are therefore more dense and sink.

    Cold water sucks up gasses while warm waters degas. A vast amount of the Earth’s atmospheric gasses are trapped in the cold depths of the Earth’s Oceans. Warm the Oceans a bit and the Atmosphere increases in volume and therefore the surface pressure increases and the Snow level rises. Cool it a bit, the Oceans water absorbs the gasses, the Atmosphere is reduced and the snow line lowers.

    The Geo-thermal component in these energy flows is controlled by the resistance of miles of rock and the heat energy brought up from the Earth’s core through conduction and convection just like in the Atmospheric gasses but in very slow motion. These circulations are modified by the Geomagnetic fields of Earth and Sun that slow down molecular movements, Stronger fields result in slower movement of convection.

    The magnetic field of the Earth causes the Earth’s shape to be an oblate spheroid, egg like, rather then a rombic spheroid that rotation only would cause. This is because magnetic fields “flow” in at the north magnetic pole and out in the south and therefore drag the rock down or up depending on the polar field flow direction. Increase the strength of those North fields and the surface becomes lower and the flows from below slow, Decrease those fields, the flows increase and surface rises. The reverse takes place in the South pole region. This has caused the South Continent that is surrounded by a active Ocean and high elevation to be fairly stable ice locked while the North Ocean that is land locked to be very unstable.

    It takes a lot of snow, nearly a hundred feet of new snow to make a foot of glacial ice that will flow like water, very slow water. So once the snow builds on the northern lands the oceans water levels lower as does the permanent snow level. It takes many hundreds of feet of continental ice to begin to flow south from the Northern fields to begin melting them and returning the water to the Oceans as well as the trapped atmospheric gasses back into the atmosphere. Once that flow starts the snow fields elevation decreases. The ocean surface level stabilizes at it’s lower “Sea Level” and the “Snow Level” stabilizes as well.

    Increased Volcanism will add to the atmosphere gasses and raise the snow line by holding more heat energy from the Sun as well as warm the Oceans waters to create more out gassing and rise the Snow Line even more.

    So as you can see, there is a lot of moving parts but the critical factor is the Snow Line and the amount of snow that sticks around from year to year. Once the elevation and gas pressure reaches that critical point ..pg

  73. Ossqss says:

    I use to post a variant of this pic (it use to go back 20k years) from the great lakes resource page, but the site has been disappeared.

  74. E.M.Smith says:

    @David A:

    Unless that speculation is based on provable error of assumptions:

    1. The atmosphere was suddenly and somehow warmed by an unknown energy source.
    2. This warmed atmosphere acted to dramatically melt / thin worldwide glacial ice sheets.

    #1 “facts not in evidence” A.K.A. “Magical Thinking” A.K.A. “hand waving”…

    #2 Air does not melt sold ice. Certainly not mile thick ice. Even (slightly…) warmed air. To see this, go spring skiing. You get folks in swim suits (or sometimes less…) in relatively warmer air sliding around on snow that doesn’t leave for weeks (months?) to come.

    Also, while there is a little evidence that a thick layer of ice can act similar to a rock layer in that the removal of it can increase volcanic venting (see Iceland volcanoes under ice) that same evidence shows that the volcanoes happily punch through that ice when the time comes. Further, that time seems dependent on the volcano, not the ice. When volcanoes don’t stop from a mile of rock over them, what hope does a mile of less dense and easily melted ice have?

    Finally, the ocean has a ‘turn over rate’ of a few thousand years (often stated as 3k). You just can not have heat magically stored in it for longer than that as it comes back to the surface and evaporates. No 40k or 100k heat storage cycles. But it gets worse: COLD water sinks. WARM water does not. So how do you get that warmth to go DOWN? Eh? Doesn’t work. That’s why we have, despite tropical surface waters near 86 F, bottom water of about freezing. Below a surface layer of a few hundred meters, you have water that is of the maximum density possible, and that’s very close to freezing. It stays that way there too. In the tropics, where light can warm the top layer and get it flowing away poleward, the cooler water can rise some, warm some, rise more, warm more, and drive the polar circulation. Heat isn’t stored, it is moved from the equators to the poles, and there is dumped to space.

    What does work:

    During a glacial period, oceans are about 400 feet lower. This strands the Arctic as an isolated lake (no cross Arctic currents) and it fills with ice. The bottom stays melted due in part to heat from the crust / volcanic chains on the bottom, and just the depth of it, but it slowly becomes a fresh water lake draining out past Iceland. The ice “grounds” all around the edges and cuts off all but a small outflow channel.

    This shifts global ocean circulation (but we know it continues. If it stopped, hypoxia would show in sediments AND the oceans would be dead.) More heat stays nearer the equator. BUT it still has to leave or the place burns up… This is done via evaporation, and it is that water which provides the literal mountains of snow that make the ice age glaciers. We know they build up over 100,000 years more or less linearly (with jaggies). This is a mass flow problem, not a heat problem. Water only evaporates so fast. It starts once the North Pole is cold enough in summer that the ice does not melt. After that, it’s a simple feedback loop from additional ice year over year. Equatorial heat, evaporating oceans around the frozen pole, dumping the heat to space at the tops of storms, and dropping the water as ice and snow on the polar ice sheet.

    The only “hard bit” has been folks struggling to explain the END of glacials. The onset of interglacials. This struggle makes sense as we know there was a “Snowball Earth” phase, so it’s possible for them to NOT end. Meaning that the trigger to end is not reliable… Folks get hung up on how to explain the shift from 40,000 year to 100,000 year cycles. IMHO that’s silly. The ice ONLY leaves once it is hot enough North enough. We’ve slowly moved into an overall colder regime over million scale years in this Ice Age (of many Ice Age Glacial / interglacial cycles). At first ‘warm enough’ came every 40 k years with shifts of polar tilt. Then that wasn’t enough. Now it takes EVERYTHING all lined up. Axial tilt, eccentricity, etc. Just like Millankovich theory worked out.

    But HOW does the ice leave so FAST?

    This is both a mass flow and a heat flow problem. At the end of the Glacial period, the oceans toward the frozen glaciated poles are still doing their job of dumping heat, but at the margin, the ice is no longer staying all summer. Summers are longer and hotter due to orbital mechanics. A little retreat and you have more sun warmed dirt along with more sun warmed shallow water at the ocean edges.

    I’ve been in water that was about 70 F at about 50 foot off shore (and 20 foot deep) but where standing in 4 foot of water near shore, it was closer to 80F and the mud on the bottom was sun warmed a bit over that. You start to get WARM moist air at the margins making rain, not snow. It doesn’t take much, just a foot or two of snow retreat to start a feedback loop the other way.

    You have enough solar energy to sustain a melted state, but until the ice leaves, it isn’t warm. So as each bit of ice and snow retreats, the warmth takes over. That darker patch stays warm in the increased sun (from tilt, eccentricity, etc.) and contributes more warm water vapor. Not only is this water vapor trapping MORE IR preventing heat loss, it is falling as RAIN. Rain DOES melt snow and ice. Quite rapidly. (Skiers universally hate hearing rain is forecast after a nice foot of snow, as the rain removes it.) It is WATER that melts the snow and ice, not air. Water has the heat capacity for the job.

    As the ice and snow melt, the ocean level rises, this brings more of that warmer surface water even further north and starts to un-ground the ice cap edges. As the ice sheet un-grounds, more ocean water can travel further under the ice sheet. Parts of it break off and float south. Remember the Titanic? Icebergs melt in warm water far from the pole, they do not sit at the pole waiting for heat. Similarly, look at how the Yukon melts each spring. Large ice chunks flowing out of the river to the seas to melt, not melting in place.

    That is how the polar ice can so rapidly melt. Any that’s floating (and increasing sea levels make ever more of it float…) can float away toward the tropics to melt. That which is stranded on land is increasingly subject to RAIN melting it, not snow building it. It is a positive feedback loop of ungrounding, iceberg floating away, warmer waters making rain, making bare land solar warmed making more rain washing away more ice.

    Then the North Pole stays ice clear because every summer the ice cap melts.

    It stays that way until the solar heating drops to a level that does not melt the ice every summer. We are now at that point. Some summers (as there are still a lot of variations) it melts almost entirely, breaking the feedback loop to frozen. Some summers the ice almost doesn’t leave, and we’re on the edge of a freeze-up. But then a little extra warmth the next year and we dodge that bullet. We are on the meta-stable edge of frozen, or not. But eventually comes the 2 or 3 summers in a row where the ice does not melt, and the snow builds. And the cycle locks in to building ice.

    The big trigger for this looks to be a shift / slowing of the Gulf Stream such that it is no longer delivering so much tropical heat to Iceland / Northern Europe, but more rains falling on the Southern Europe / Northern Africa region. Once that happens in a meta-stable warm glacial, it flips to glacial formation and locks up.

    We were likely in that process in the Little Ice Age and only barely escaped it as a 700 or 1400 year cycle moved us just barely back warm enough. But the next time we will not be so lucky as the heat available will be less, and the snows deeper.

    IFF there is ANY truth to the Global Warming via CO2 theory, it is entirely a GOOD thing as it would then be the only thing holding off the incipient Glacial Onset and the slow death of Canada, Russia, UK, North EU, and New England under miles of ice.

  75. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh, and as P.G. points out, with atmospheric changes come snow line changes. (I had to leave something out to avoid writing a book ;-)

    As the ocean drops 400 feet, globally that effectively moves mountains 400 feet higher and snow lines 400 feet down the mountains. A LOT more mountain tops get an ice sheet forming and that, too, is water out of the oceans. Rinse and repeat…

    The glacial is mostly at the poles, but also mountain tops get into the act. Himalaya and Alps and Andes and Rocky mountains all get big ice sheets. Even the Sierra Nevada have ice sculpted mountains well below the current snow line.

  76. E.M.Smith says:

    Thank You, Google!

    From: https://bonginoreport.com/

    “LifeSiteNews Has Been Financially Blacklisted by Google”

    Which points to:


    So thanks to Google, I now know of a New Site I really need to visit!


    Hit the link!

    And a BIG H/T to Google for Singing Like a Streisand of where I ought to be reading!

  77. cdquarles says:

    Add in wind blown dust during the dry glacials. As far south as I am, we don’t use salt on our roads nor are snow plows economical. So, when the ice does come every few years/decades, we put sand on the ice. Sun warmed sand does a nice job of melting ice as well as help with the surface tension water film that gets made from pressure. That helps traction.

    When the axial tilt goes to 24.5 degrees, the sun is always about 1 degree higher above the horizon during the summer months. During the depths of winter, we always get a bit more than 50% of the maximum insolation possible at noon. In summer, we get a bit more than 90%. Solar heated bare dirt gets hot. Yes, not quite as hot as asphalted tarmac; but quite hot. When it goes to 22 degrees, the noon sun is always about 1 degree lower above the horizon. That will not affect the tropics nor the subtropics much; but at the poles, the reduced insolation matters greatly. Axial tilt is about 23.44 degrees now and dropping, so yes, the ‘climate change’ we should be worrying about is a new glaciation in our current geological glacial period. Our current atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration is too low, not too high. It is too close to plant starvation level as it is. Rubisco oxygen poisoning already happens at times. We should be returning a good bit of the locked carbon dioxide back into the atmosphere for the health of the planet’s plants.

    No, the CO2 warming thing is wrong. IR is light, not heat. Heat is internal kinetic energy of a defined sample of matter and only its internal kinetic energy. Yes, heat can be converted to light and light to heat; but what IR active gases and vapors in the atmosphere do is move the adiabatic lapse rate from -g/Cp to, on this water world, the moist one. That does not have to change the surface or near surface temperature at all. It will affect the temperature at altitude. Increasing the temperature at altitude increases the power that gets radiated. (I think people need to look at actual measured sounding data, and consider it more than just dealing with averages. The data is rougher than a straight line makes things seem.)

  78. E.M.Smith says:


    Nice intro article. It does skip over the earlier Version 7 rc.d init system still in use in the BSD world (before AT&T System Vinit came into being – a long story there…) but outside of BSD circles, only folks using systems prior to the 1990s really knows or cares. Not a lot of rc.d in Linux land.

    Unfortunately for me and my choice of hardware (ARM chips) most of the devo work is on Intel / AMD based PCs so many of the choices do not exist (yet…) on ARM devices.

    Oh Well, as they say…

    I’m happy with Devuan in the places where I can make it run, and Armbian, despite being SystemD infested, has managed to fix / cover-up the worst parts of it, so I find it usable on systems where Devuan doesn’t “go”. For now anyway.

    I always have the choice of just going ahead and wither getting good at doing Devuan Ports and “roll my own”, or accept that dealing with the annoyance of hand rolled X-windows systems on BSD is “worth it”…

  79. another ian says:

    “The Disinformation Campaign about Disinformation”


    Also looks like Jo is being nobbled on both Google and DDG. She uses WordPress – have they gotten into the act too?

  80. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    So far, I’ve not seen WordPress nuking folks. I figure I’ll know when that happens…

    FWIW, WordPress software is open source (and I have a copy) so they run the WordPress SITE as an easy entry point / service. NOTHING prevents a WordPress user from just moving to their own software. (And I’m prepared / preparing to do that as needed…)

    One needs to sign up for a URL / Web Address / DNS entry somewhere, which was why I’d not done it yet (annoyance, cost, needing to deal with ‘providers’ and potential information leakage) but was pleasantly surprsed that i2P let me do it without DNS registration so I popped up the duplicate site…

    The simple fact is that tossing someone off of the WordPress site just has them run their own and likely save money… so a bit pointless.

  81. another ian says:

    “China: Five eyes are an axis of white supremacy”


    Check the population make-ups listed

  82. philjourdan says:

    @CD Quarles – Re: Sand and sun

    Sand gives you traction on ice. It does nothing to melt it. Salt changes the melting point of water, so does melt it (as long as you are above a certain temperature).

  83. another ian says:

    In the spirit of that comment by the Duke of Wellington reviewing troops –

    “I don’t know about the enemy but they sure terrify me”

    “Democrat Congress members don’t trust Biden with nuclear codes – ask him to relinquish sole nuclear launch authority”


  84. YMMV says:

    “So thanks to Google, I now know of a New Site I really need to visit!”

    In a like vein, the progressive news are all hot about a new “alt-right” media platform.
    Coming tomorrow, from Al Jazeera, called “Rightly”.


    quotes from the press release

    will generate content for audiences currently underrepresented in today’s media environment

    “I’m one of millions of Americans who grew up identifying with the conservative movement only to reach the times we’re living in now and recognize very little of its politics,” Kent said. “This show is going to be about searching for a home if you’re someone who doesn’t feel represented in the current political climate. The majority of Americans want a sane political conversation rooted in humility and openness. We’re going to do just that by hosting weekly conversations on the state of the right and have some fun doing it.”

    Rightly’s Editor-in-Chief is industry veteran Scott Norvell. Norvell was on the team that launched Fox News Channel in 1996

  85. E.M.Smith says:


    Something the Progressive Left have forgotten in their promotion of lots of Islamist Immigration: Islam is a STRONGLY Conservative religion. When it comes to core values, they share nothing with the Gender Benders and “Men in girls locker rooms” trans-pushers.

    I’ve found Al Jazeera to be one of the more reliable news sources. Do realize they will shade things about Israel and will always show Islam in a positive light. But get off that topic, they have some pretty good real news reporting. Rather like RT from Russia. News about Russia & Putin is all positive spin, but get off that topic, most of it is clean news. (Though news about America can be shaded to tarnish, depending on who’s doing what to whom at the moment…)

    So put those two, along with some “Traditional Western Counterpoint” that talks dirt about Russia and with Israeli news that talks dirt about Muslim countries, where they are in agreement is truth. Where they disagree is the ‘spin’ that needs de-spinning to figure out what’s really going on.

  86. E.M.Smith says:

    because laughing is good:

  87. another ian says:

    Readers here would believe this could happen:-

    “Just one week after Texas: Buffalo Pound Water Treatment Plant renewal looks to green future”


  88. another ian says:


    There has been mentions of Trump getting into media,

    Via somewhere like Al Jazeera would be unexpected and more immune from the Bidenites?

  89. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    Possible but unlikely. The big issue is the Qatar ownership means no Trump control. Then most of the rest of the Gulf States want to ban it. It is somewhat pro-Sunni… and too “Western”…

    Trump could easily create a company he controls anywhere in the world without the Shia Sunni drama. And the risk, as in 2017, of a Shia invasion and takedown. (Shutting AJ was a demand during the embargo by Saudi, Egypt, etc)

    It would be very easy and effective to fund a Rightside Media subsidiary in, say, Belize (English speaking, 400k population, good internet connectivity) and be beyond reach. Bring in a few $ Million and be a major player in the local economy, so harder to politically pressure them from outside. Though frankly operating from Florida is likely safe turf too (even if regulatory exposure exists).

    Cost of entry is very low. A few thousand $dollars. Look at Tim Pool’s studio and internet connection. That’s it. Though a higher end studio is a value add. You can place that anywhere in the world with acceptable politics. Then syndicate to folks like AJ, Sky, etc. as desired.

    Think of Rush and the E.I.B. Network. Him, a set, and distribution deals with radio stations. Do the same structure for video + podcast with legal domicile in a haven country and “remote studio” in Florida…

  90. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    I was going to do a small “Ah Hem… every legal entity not a natural person is an incorporated entity” and diss the idea that the USA was usurped by bankers via a bit of legal chicanery, but chasing links from that story led to this:

    Click to access articles-of-incorporation-of-u-s-corp-company.pdf

    IF shown to be an actual filing, that’s kind of damning. How can the USA be a creation of A State as a State Corporation when the USA is a creation of ALL the States as their treaty with each other demands?

    I’m not fully convinced, but it sure looks suspicious…

    It would take better lawyer than me (as I’m at best a junior apprentice wannabe Country Lawyer occasionally Reading Law on my own time, and that mangles the tuth a bit much…) to clarify what’s really going on. BUT:

    IF the USA really is a sovereign government in its own right, why does it need articles of incorporation filed in Florida?… And if THAT is really what went on and USA, Inc. is in D.C., what happened to The United StateS of America? Just ignored on a shelf somewhere?

    My brain is unhappy and wants some more caffeine and sugar if it is going to work this out…

  91. philjourdan says:

    Think of Rush and the E.I.B. Network. Him, a set, and distribution deals with radio stations. Do the same structure for video + podcast with legal domicile in a haven country and “remote studio” in Florida…

    Eh, no. Trump is Video and Tweets, Neither was Rush. Trump has a plan to take over a media (just as Rush did), but a media that is off the radar for now.

    But not for long.

  92. Ossqss says:

    OK, poll question.

    I have a 2013 Lincoln MKT that is in great condition (65k miles). I have been looking at trading it in, but don’t find anything I like considering trade value involved. So, I still wanted a 4×4 of some sort as the MKT was actually an AWD (with a 12 pack fridge/freezer under the back armrest, and 5.9 0-60, no BS) and found another option.

    So instead of purchasing something, I thought upgrade. thoughts?

    Eliminate the hood scoop and fins, and this is kinda what I may do in White as that is the current color. I think it may be a first :-)

    New car is $X and this mod would be around 2k with tires, flares and rims.

  93. Ossqss says:

    This is the current appearance.

  94. H.R. says:

    @Ossqss – The gold trim would work with white.

    Did you subtract the trade-in value of your current wheels from the $2,000 estimated cost?

    Where are the machine guns located?

  95. E.M.Smith says:


    Sorry, my analogy was not clear. I was thinking “Like Rush as in legal structure and contractual structure” not “Like Rush as in on radio”. So a Video version of the Rush legal / contractual system.


    I like the idea… but… but…

    Where are the hood flames?



    Oh, and I’d keep the existing tires and rims as a 2nd set for long boring freeway drives in summer when you want a quieter softer ride and don’t need the uber traction. Put the Macho tires & rims on for winter or when going out country way. Or the beach. Or playing in the mud. Or camping. Or impressing …

  96. E.M.Smith says:

    Of if that’s a bit too much, a tasty black accent?



  97. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkr7bml0i_U says:


  98. another ian says:

    “But we did invent hamburgers, pizza and doughnuts”

    :”Never in the field of human oppression have so few fed so much to so many:”


  99. another ian says:


    I just got a magnificent string of cartoons (memes?) in an email but no links.

    But, if the dems and rinos think they’re going to do a Tea Party wean of voters fromf Trump there is this one

    “The only reason I wouldn’t vote for Trump is if I found that he’d slept with Nancy Pelosi”

  100. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    Yeah, ’cause the only way that could happen would be if he was doing some serious drugs that addle the mind (and suppress vision…or provide hallucination instead…)

    I mean, really, she make the caricature Cruella DeVille look like an improvement…

  101. Compu Gator says:

    E.M.Smith commented on 26 February 2021 at 4:42 am GMT:

    (Various flamboyant automotive decorations.)

    Ummm, I thought there was a broad consensus here on the Chiefio blog that it would be safest, as the U.S. Constitutional Republic is dragged down by Leninists who’ve infiltrated the Democratic Party, to assume the role of a gray man: Maintaining everything from attire to behavior as unnoticeable as possible. Blending in to the background of local life; so unremarkable that you can’t be identified by ordinary eye-witness description.

    It’s the “big white Lincoln SUV” is bad enough. How easy would it be to track the “big white Lincoln SUV with the blue-flames” artwork using current or upcoming technology?

    Have I misinterpreted the consensus?

  102. E.M.Smith says:


    Um, “change clothes”…

    I have my Grey Man car that goes with my Grey slacks, Grey shirt (honest, they ARE grey) and black shoes. I also have the “LOOK LOOK IT’s ME!!” car for when I want to establish I was in a particular place…

    “Why look at this google earth satellite image showing my Hot Car at home on that day, and you will notice my cell phone was home all day too, and my computer was on and downloading a copy of {every linux I can script}, while I was watching {endless series} on the roku.”

    Meanwhile black car with other State plates and burn phone is “somewhere else”…

  103. YMMV says:

    jim2 presented this link about ICE engines with over 50% thermal efficiency:

    Here is another claim to over 50% thermal efficiency. This one is an e-car but it uses gasoline for fuel. The ICE engine is optimized for charging the battery, but the car is electric.

  104. Ossqss says:

    @HR, those are not fog lights :-)

    I think this may be close to my final design as I can actually boost performance with some intake/exhaust mods on the twin turbo in it already, so may be a real functioning hood scoop. Of course, I am meeting some internal resistance from the boss lady on it. YOLO however. LOL


  105. philjourdan says:

    Upgrade vs Trade-in. Sorry, same thing when it comes to used cars. Upgrade means they give you more for the VEhicle, but they charge more for the new VEhicle. Trade-in gets you their bottom dollar, but then you have to shop for a new VEhicle.

    And yes that typo is correct. See MASH for the reference. But the information is accurate

  106. David A says:

    EM, thanks for your response, and PGs response as well to my ice age querry.

    While I have numerous thoughts and observations to share, I will set this on the back burner for now. Life is sometimes busy, even for us retired guys. So, while I will give a more thorough response when I revisit this, I will express one response to this portion; E.M. says…
    ” But it gets worse: COLD water sinks. WARM water does not. So how do you get that warmth to go DOWN? Eh? Doesn’t work. That’s why we have, despite tropical surface waters near 86 F, bottom water of about freezing…”

    As I understand it at the polar regions the warmer waters does exactly that, it sinks.

    Arctic in-flowing Atlantic water is realitively warm water, and is isolated from the sea surface, and also the underside of the sea ice, by an intervening layer of lighter, colder, fresher Arctic water.

    The water from the Atlantic is saltier than the water of the Arctic, and thus the incoming water is denser and will flow northward into the Arctic Basin underneath the surface water. It is also good to remember that water at 39 F is denser just due to T, saltier water both intensifies and broadens the deeper density brackets of water warmer then the cold layer just below the ice.

    The Atlantic Water (AW) flows into the Arctic Ocean between 40 and 200 meters deep. At the middle of this flow, the water is up to 5 C warmer than the overlying, colder, relatively fresh water. This Atlantic water deepens as it enters the Arctic. This drastic change in temperature in the vertical water column is called a “thermocline,” and acts a barrier for upward heat flow. In this case, the thermocline also acts as a “halocline” – a distinct change in saltiness of the water layers. This layering phenomenon is called stratification. Thus, because the warm AW influx is warmer and saltier, the water remains stratified in the absence of turbulent vertical mixing, and the heat is not released to the surface ocean, sea ice, or atmosphere and climate! The ice is an insulator as well as a wind mixing barrier.

    The freezing point of salt water is 28.8 °F, and the waters below the surface of the ice remain just above this temperature.

    The waters of the Arctic Ocean can be divided into three subsections: Arctic Surface Water (0 to 656 feet); Atlantic Water (650 to 2,950 feet); and Arctic Deep Water (2,950 feet down to the sea floor). Average temperatures of the Arctic Surface Water range from 28.6 °F to 30.2 °F, Except where the warm Atlantic currents flow into the Arctic. the Atlantic Water has an average temperature of 37.4 °F, and Arctic Deep Water has a temperature range of between 30.6 °F to 35.6 °F.

    So while upward mixing is barricades by the cold water and very limited windless turbulence, Mixing with the bottom water does occur.
    “The Arctic floor is not completely flat. If you were to look at a map of it, you’d see that it has mountains, ridges, valleys, and slopes like dry land does. These features – which together make up the seafloor “topography” – have an influence on the flow of water around the Arctic Ocean, like wind on the continents. The model observes that there is enhanced mixing of these different water layers over rough topography, particularly over continental slopes near the Svalbard and Severnaya Zemlya archipelagos. As the AW circulates around the Arctic Basin in boundary currents, there is some mixing with the colder waters above, and the less cold waters below as well.

    Tidal forces enhance energy dissipation rates along the continental slopes, and generate the vertical mixing in the water column. While previous studies have supported the notion that enhanced mixing happens near rough topography, this study is the first to give evidence that both topography AND tides control the AW mixing rates.”

    Essentially tides, currents and topography form mixing leeways ( stationary or slowly moving rotating currents) Some of these flows go deep into the bottom water, which is equally saline, but colder and therefore lighter or less dense then the density sweet spot Atlantic water.

    So I am talking about a very very slow build up of energy in the oceans. I will developed later both why it is so slow, and how it stays isolated from the atmosphere which is going very cold and dry. I will endeavour to answer your ocean warming time limit critique, and other excellent comments. The only teaser until then is to remember that energy is never lost, which allows for very long very slow changes to occur.

    As always, all the very Best…

  107. E.M.Smith says:

    @David A:

    There is no warm water in the Arctic. Only cold, colder, and damn cold. Max density is at 4 C, so that is what deep bottom water maintains. At sutface layer depths you get mixing (wind, salinity, temperature based) which is what you described, but that is irrelevant to the notion of storing heat in the ocean, because almost all the ocean is below that and cold. 4C cold, and constant.

    Note that for 7000 m depth, it is cold. The top 1000 or less has changes,

    Bathypelagic Zone
    The depths from 1,000-4,000 meters (3,300 – 13,100 feet) comprise the bathypelagic zone. Due to its constant darkness, this zone is also called the midnight zone. The only light at this depth (and lower) comes from the bioluminescence of the animals themselves.

    The temperature in the bathypelagic zone, unlike that of the mesopelagic zone, is constant. The temperature never fluctuates far from a chilling 39°F (4°C).
    The pressure in the bathypelagic zone is extreme and at depths of 13,100 feet (4,000 meters), reaches over 5850 pounds per square inch! Yet, sperm whales can dive down to this level in search of food.

    Abyssopelagic Zone
    The Abyssopelagic Zone (or abyssal zone) extends from 13,100 feet (4,000 meters) to 19,700 feet (6,000 meters). It is the pitch-black bottom layer of the ocean.

    The name (abyss) comes from a Greek word meaning “no bottom” because they thought the ocean was bottomless. Three-quarters of the area of the deep-ocean floor lies in this zone.

    The water temperature is constantly near freezing and only a few creatures can be found at these crushing depths.

    Hadalpelagic Zone
    The deepest zone of the ocean, the hadalpelagic zone extends from 19,700 feet (6,000 meters) to the very bottom at 36,070 feet (10,994 meters) in the Mariana Trench off the coast of Japan.

    The temperature is constant at just above freezing.
    The weight of all the water over head in the Mariana Trench is over 8 tons per square inch.

    Even at the very bottom life exists. In 2005, tiny single-celled organisms, called foraminifera, a type of plankton, were discovered in the Challenger Deep trench southwest of Guam in the Pacific Ocean. The deepest a fish have ever been found, Abyssobrotula galatheae, was in the Puerto Rico Trench at 8,372 meters (27,460 feet).

    So no matter what happens in the top 1/8 the bottom 7/8 doesn’t change. No heat storage in it means no heat storage in “the ocean”. At best you can get marginal changes in a small fraction of the surface. Even there, the equatorial warm to Polar cold dominates the profile, though, so not much can change. Especially during a glacial period.

    Epipelagic Zone
    This surface layer is also called the sunlight zone and extends from the surface to 200 meters (660 feet). It is in this zone that most of the visible light exists. With the light comes heating from sun. This heating is responsible for wide change in temperature that occurs in this zone, both in the latitude and each season.

    The sea surface temperatures range from as high as 97°F (36°C) in the Persian Gulf to 28°F (-2°C) near the North Pole.

    Interaction with the wind keeps this layer mixed and thus allows the heating from the sun to be distributed vertically. At the base of this mixing layer is the beginning of the thermocline.

    The thermocline is a region where water temperature decreases rapidly with increasing depth and transition layer between the mixed layer at the surface and deeper water.

    The depth and strength of the thermocline varies from season to season and year to year. It is strongest in the tropics and decrease to non-existent in the polar winter season.

    Mesopelagic Zone
    Below the epipelagic zone is the mesopelagic zone, extending from 200 meters (660 feet) to 1,000 meters (3,300 feet). The mesopelagic zone is sometimes referred to as the twilight zone or the midwater zone as sunlight this deep is very faint. Temperature changes the greatest in this zone as this is the zone with contains the thermocline.

    Because of the lack of light, it is within this zone that bioluminescence begins to appear on life. The eyes on the fishes are larger and generally upward directed, most likely to see silhouettes of other animals (for food) against the dim light.

    Basically you have nearly frozen water sinking at the poles especially in winter with zero thermocline. This eventually flows to the equator where wind and sun warm surface waters and push them toward the poles. This lets deeper water rise mid oceans to eventually be warmed near the surface too. (Skipping coriolis and 3k yr time required as I’m one finger tablet typing…).

    For 3000 years time to circulate, 7/8 of the ocean is a constant 4 C. The rest is driving the circulation. There is no downward heat transfer. There is 4 C cold sinking at the pole and warm equatorial water poleward surface transfer with eventual cooling to the atmosphere and polar heat disposal to space.

    Details of mixing dynamics in the surface layer are irrelevant to that fact, especially around the -2 C to 4 C density inversion range that happens at the poles.

  108. Simon Derricutt says:

    For those in the right areas of the USA, or perchance moving to them, it appears there’s a native caffeinated drink you can pick wild called Yaupon. The leaves need to be roasted (so a bit coffee-like) before brewing – gives a bit of scope to change the roast-level for different flavours.
    Areas are roughly south-east quarter of the USA, so should be in Florida.

  109. cdquarles says:

    Well, I am in the right area, though maybe a bit too far north. The holly around here does have red berries, but the leaves are waxy and have spines. So, I think it is the wrong kind.

  110. The True Nolan says:

    @ Simon Derricutt: “Areas are roughly south-east quarter of the USA, so should be in Florida.”

    Yes, definitely in Florida. The Timucuan Indians (and others) used Yaupon leaves and bark to make “the black drink”, a ritual tea with so much caffeine and alkaloids that you throw up, get diarrhea, and (sometimes) hallucinate. “Ask your Shaman about Yaupon!” The Latin name “Ilex vomitoria” is a clue. Some of my wife’s friends were historical reenactors portraying Spanish contact Timucuans and Miccosukee and drank it according to the old recipe. The University of Florida may still have a web page on preparation.

    I seem to remember seeing some for sale online years ago.

  111. Compu Gator says:

    p.g.sharrow commented on 24 February 2021 at 3:52 pm GMT:

    The magnetic field of the Earth causes the Earth’s shape to be an oblate spheroid, egg like, rather then a rombic spheroid that rotation only would cause.

    Huh?  It’s difficult for me to imagine a more ambiguous exemplar for any common type of spheroid than an egg, which I assume that the vast majority of readers will visualize as common chicken eggs, which are not even vertically symmetrical. Many of which seem closer to the opposite shape: the prolate spheroid. Some readers might recall that egg-shell shapes and related customs provides a metaphorical subplot in Gulliver’s Travels.

    Sooo, I recommend a tangerine fruit [🍊] as your oblate exemplar:

    By Royal Charles Steadman (1875–1964), 1926. Now held by the Pomological Watercolor Collection of the U.S. Dept. of Agriculture [🎨].

    Or a calamondin fruit, but few readers would recognize them, or even know what they are.

    Note 🍊 : The name originally identified a variety of mandarin orange (Citrus reticulata) that was pecuiar to Tangier (S.W. corner of Str. of Gibraltar, (in) once-Spanish Morocco). Its taxonomy is unsettled; at its grandest, it’s the distinct species Citrus tangerina. “Tangerine” was originally an adjective (sometimes substantive) meaning “Of or pertaining to, or native of Tangier”,  per the Oxford English Dictionary via Wikip.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangerine.

    Note 🎨 : Public domain as a work by an employee of the U.S. fed. gov’t, specifically the Dept. of Agriculture. Original is in the Pomological Watercolor Collection, held by National Agricultural Library. Posted as 394×599 (I’m curious to see what WordPress does with such a vertical image), but resolutions to 2633×4000 (7.3 MB) are available from Wikim.https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pomological_Watercolor_POM00006444.jpg.

  112. E.M.Smith says:

    contemplating the image of ocean temps here:
    in that NOAA image, I realized another feedback going on.

    As the polar ice sheets head toward the equator and cover the Arctic Ocean, and the ocean lowers:

    The distance between the hot humid equator and the cold frozen edge gets much smaller and the place where polar cold water sinks gets a larger circumference of the planet. This ought to result in much more moist air reaching the polar ice edge and being deposited as snow. Going the other way, as the ice retreats, the moisture available for precipitation gets further away and total available snow ought to decrease (at least until the Arctic Ocean is uncovered).

    I suspect the larger circumference polar cold rings and lower ocean volume might also speed up the rate of ocean circulation, but I’m not sure what that would do… Perhaps comparing Northern Hemisphere seasonal changes would illuminate….

  113. E.M.Smith says:


    Maybe he was talking about Turtle Eggs, they are more or less spherical… and with a “leathery” shell ought to deform into oblate under gravitational force…


  114. philjourdan says:

    @Simon – I am with CD on this one. Mine have red berries and spines as well, so I will forgo the ritual drink. And the effects, according to The True Nolan, are not what I am looking for in a tea drink. I can get most of those with a fifth of Tequila and it tastes better.

  115. E.M.Smith says:


    Tequila has taste? Funny, I don’t remember any taste… (or much of anything else either… ;-)

  116. philjourdan says:

    @EM – Sip it. savor the flavor. I prefer Don Roberto, but that seems to have disappeared, so I go with Don Julio. $32/fifth below the border – triple that on the east coast.

    Herrado is good as well. Just a half step below the Dons.

    Sip and enjoy. After the 10th sip, you will not remember any more. :-)

    And an FYI – As far as the symptoms, I am relying upon my wife and daughter’s recollections. They do a shot class once a year. And I (and my grandson now) have to help them to bed.

  117. E.M.Smith says:


    One Tequila
    Two Tequila
    Three Tequila


  118. philjourdan says:

    @EMS – yea, except it takes them more than 3. But floor is the final position. The last time, my grandson was 16 (he is almost 23 now) and living with us (daughter, at the time, between jobs and SIL), so he helped her to her bed downstairs and I helped mama to her bed up stairs.

    I prefer to savor tequila. Others prefer the salt and lime on the wrist approach. But one thing is certain. No Jose Cuervo for them! Don Julio or Don Roberto or Herrado!

    Ah the life of the doting father and husband. :-)

  119. The True Nolan says:

    @philjourdan “And the effects, according to The True Nolan, are not what I am looking for in a tea drink.”

    Dosage makes all the difference. I would be very comfortable with you doing some experimentation and reporting back to us! :)
    There are quite a few places that sell it for a herbal tea.
    Just because the Native Americans made the high-test version does not mean that is the only choice!

    The same thing applies to nicotine. Some of the ritual usages still current in South American tribes have a high enough dosage to cause heart palpitations and hallucinations — but that does not mean that every cigar will knock you on your behind. Dosage, dosage.

  120. Ossqss says:

    I would say, I am not permitted to have the T word drink. Not allowed in any form. History has made it’s statement.

    I do miss the Bait Bucket Margarita’s (blue ones) from Sharkey’s in Venice …—…

    They only let you have 2, but if you got there at shift change (4pm) , you got a reset :-)

  121. philjourdan says:

    @EM – re being a guinea pig (I hope you read that link that HR sent me several weeks back).

    Eh, no thanks. But if we tell a liberal it will remove their “whiteness”, I bet we can get lots of volunteers. Of course I would not trust their evaluation. :-)

  122. p.g.sharrow says:

    Got called by the VA saying that it was my turn to get the Covid shot. Told them thanks but no thanks.

    I think that that shot carries greater risk then the virus. Fauci and Gates do not impress me with confidence in their good intent…pg

  123. beththeserf says:

    Me too, p.g. When trust is missing…

  124. H.R. says:

    A sad day for the H.R. household.

    1) We are OTR today headed for home in the Frozen North.

    2) Worse, yesterday we had to euthanize our dear little Cairn terrier. She had a failing liver. We were treating that and she seemed to be responding. But last Tuesday, she crashed and burned. The meds were no longer working. She could not eat and she was throwing up what little we could get her to eat. She was losing strength and energy.

    Saturday, we were debating if she would survive the trip home. Then yesterday, Sunday, it was so bad that we could not bear to think of her suffering and declining more and more each day of the three day trip. The whites of her eyes were so badly yellowed, poor thing. The Vets here didn’t know if it was liver cancer or not. We think so since she quit responding to the meds they prescribed for liver disease.

    It wasn’t going to matter if we knew why her liver failed, so we had no further tests done. And then yesterday, we knew it was time to say goodbye. We can only hope she’s chasing squirrels and mice somewhere on another plane.

    I’m very sad. We’ve lost several pets over the years and each time it is so hard because they, our household pets, are part of the family. The pain comes from from the fact that they trust us completely to care for them, and it is such a hard choice to end their suffering when you can’t discuss it with them. I have a living will, but little doggies can’t put their wishes in writing like people can do. So we decide for them as best we can.

    This will probably be my last comment for several days as I have to jump up now to make final preparations to get on the road and it’s often difficult to take even a few minutes to comment while on the road, making and breaking camp.

  125. beththeserf says:

    Condolences, H.R. Our dogs are such loyal friends to us. We lost our border collie over a year ago and still miss him.

  126. E.M.Smith says:

    Sorry to hear that H.R., but can relate. We “inherited” our 2 dogs a few years back but they are now our “Fur Babies” per the spouse. They were rescue dogs some years before we got them (when their rescuer ran out of ability). The love from them over things like a full meal and couch time is just palpable.

    But both of them are very “senior” and lost teeth, so finding food that works for them can be a challenge. One has very large lumps on the belly. Enough that we’re facing a decision “soon” I fear. Unlikely to be curable, and a visit to ‘find out’ likely to be the end of things. But as long as she has “quality of life”, we’re Servant To Dogs and happy to be that.

    So yeah, the “not on the couch” rule has turned into “on the couch asleep in the lap just about anytime” allowance…

  127. rhoda klapp says:

    Condolences, HR.

    THERE is sorrow enough in the natural way
    From men and women to fill our day;
    And when we are certain of sorrow in store,
    Why do we always arrange for more?
    Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
    Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.

    Buy a pup and your money will buy
    Love unflinching that cannot lie
    Perfect passion and worship fed
    By a kick in the ribs or a pat on the head.
    Nevertheless it is hardly fair
    To risk your heart for a dog to tear.

    When the fourteen years which Nature permits
    Are closing in asthma, or tumour, or fits,
    And the vet’s unspoken prescription runs
    To lethal chambers or loaded guns,
    Then you will find – it’s your own affair, –
    But … you’ve given your heart to a dog to tear.

    When the body that lived at your single will,
    With its whimper of welcome, is stilled (how still!),
    When the spirit that answered your every mood
    Is gone – wherever it goes – for good,
    You will discover how much you care,
    And will give your heart to a dog to tear!

    We’ve sorrow enough in the natural way,
    When it comes to burying Christian clay.
    Our loves are not given, but only lent,
    At compound interest of cent per cent,
    Though it is not always the case, I believe,
    That the longer we’ve kept ’em, the more do we grieve;
    For, when debts are payable, right or wrong,
    A short-time loan is as bad as a long –
    So why in – Heaven (before we are there)
    Should we give our hearts to a dog to tear?

    Rudyard Kipling

  128. YMMV says:

    RT reports that Gab was hacked and the hackers are making the data public for “researchers of neo-nazis”

    “The transparency group #DDoSecrets will make the 70GB of passwords, private posts, and more available to researchers, journalists, and social scientists.”

  129. E.M.Smith says:


    Gee… isn’t it illegal to hack into a computer system uninvited? Isn’t Assange in prison for just suggesting to someone how it might be done? Think those folks pushing the Gab hack will ever see the same level of “justice”?

    Just asking…

  130. philjourdan says:

    @HR – I know full well how those furry critters become members of the family, and their loss really hurts. YOu would think after you lose a few, that we would stop adopting, but no, we see them and fall in love again.

    And they do trust us. I guess that is why we feel we failed them.

  131. Ossqss says:

    So sorry hear of you and you wife’s loss HR. My sincere condolences.

  132. The True Nolan says:

    Yes, H.R., Sorry that you have lost such a loved companion. Most of us here have had the same experience and so have some empathy. My guess is that your terrier will be bragging on the astral plane about having had such a good family on Earth.

  133. Gail Combs says:

    I can relate. We just lost our 20+ year old cat a week ago. We found dogs and goats do not mix very well so we have not had a dog for about 20 years… On the other hand, I seem to have acquired another pony. It was a take both or nothing and my neighbor wanted the mare. So I ended up with the gelding at least for now. We are at 50+ on the livestock front now with sheep, goats and ponies.

  134. philjourdan says:

    @TTN – that was perfect,. I only wish I would have said it,.

  135. H.R. says:

    Thanks to all for your sympathy and most of you have deep empathy as well, having experienced the same. You know the grief and sadness. We miss them.

    @Rhoda – I had not run across that Kipling poem. If that doesn’t bring at least a lump in the throat to all the pet owners who have lost one, then they have a heart of stone.
    I’m stuck here at our first stop on the way home. Last year, we had three flat tires on the way home (bad tire pressure gauge) and it took 5 days to make it home. Quite the adventure, not.

    This year, two good tire gauges have made blowouts a non-issue, but this year, about 100 miles from the campground I got a check engine light.

    I took it to the Ford dealer about 1 mile down the road. Three codes, and they aren’t sure when they can get under the hood to check things out. The service manager could only promise to do the best he can. So… we’re stuck and I don’t know for how long.
    We decided in Florida that we would upgrade the truck and trailer this year. We are going to a 5th -wheel, but one of the smaller ones. We don’t need one with 4 slide-outs, 2 extra bedrooms and a toy hauler rear end. Maybe about 34-35 feet and two slide-outs is all, and that way I don’t have to get an F-350 or Ram 3500 (No GM – Government Motors – for me). I’m definitely getting a 2015 or newer truck. We don’t need any more adventures.
    Looks like I’ll have some reading and commenting time OTR after all.

  136. E.M.Smith says:

    You might want to ask what those codes are. Often they are silly things you can ignore for 1000 miles. My “check engine light” in the little Mercedes came on almost TO Florida. It’s still on back here in California… Sometimes it just means your gas cap is not fully tightened. (The Subaru does that if the gas is below 1/4 tank and it sits a few days…) Just sayin’, you might want to ask if you can just complete the run home and THEN get “whatever” dealt with.

  137. jim2 says:

    Engine code readers aren’t expensive and have saved my bacon a few times. You can use one to blow the computer settings and run the vehicle through a series of maneuvers to cause the computer to reset configuration values after repairs and before an inspection. Those engine analyzers are also really cool. You can do so much with them. A cheap oscilloscope can do some of the same things. You just need a low pass filter on the front-end of it so you don’t see a bunch of noise.

  138. Ossqss says:

    @HR, I would bet it is an O2 sensor (if never changed) impacting your fuel mix going from a warm humid to colder dry climate. OMG, it is climate change what done it!

  139. jim2 says:

    Looks like we missed the Low Energy Nuclear Reactions Workshop again!


    Here are the presentations:


  140. philjourdan says:

    @Jim2 – link to buy them please!

    @HR – I was told by my mechanic (which I have had for 42 years now – anyone want to top that?) that the pressure gauges are only good for 5-9 years. Well that is conservative as mine did last 13. But I bit the bullet and replaced all and he gave me a discount (he also pulled my ass off the road 20 years ago when road trash sliced 2 of my tires. He had me back on the road (with towing) in an hour! Top that!).

    I am not computer auto mechanic enough to know if he was BSing me. But he has cut me a lot of slack over those 40+ years, so I trust him.

  141. H.R. says:

    The problem? 2 bad plugs out of 10. The #2 cylinder plug had the heater water line from the block line leaking on it; rusted and intermittently shorting until it crapped out, and the #10 cylinder plug was only hand tight and burnt up! So I’d been running on 9 cylinders for a while anyhow. Why it didn’t code for that is a mystery to me.

    I also had the 100,000 mile throttle body and injector service done. I’m at 96,800 miles and cleaning the throttle body was one of the top three things I found online when it came to V-10 engines missing. The 100,000 mile service was pretty cheap to do since the main thing is getting into the throttle body and they were there anyhow. I also had a few cracked boots, so I had the harness replaced.

    It’s purring like a kitten and we’ll be back OTR tomorrow.

    This was a good outfit. They had good reviews online and they were only a mile from the campground. They took me back to the trailer while my truck was in the shop and picked me up when it was ready. Nice!

    Oh, when I took it in, the service writer said he could not promise when he would even be able to look at the truck. They have been very busy and they have 2 -3 days of jobs in the queue. But he said he’d do the best he could to fit us in. He also gave me the 3 codes and his guess at what the problem was, but he’d need the mechanic to start digging and looking at the troubles the codes indicated to be sure of the real problem.

    At about 9:30 or 10:00 he called! His mechanic was scheduled on some major engine job and was halted due to a part they had to order, so he slid my truck into that time slot. He wanted to change all 10 plugs for the 100,000 mile plug service. I told him I had the plugs changed last year before going to Florida, since it was ‘close enough’ to 100,000 miles.

    He said “Oh, then I’ll have my mechanic check them all first.” He called back at 11:00 and that’s when he told me about the #10 plug being out as well as the #2 plug that coded. All the others were fine. I was impressed that they a) checked all of them and 2) didn’t try to snow me on needing 10 plugs. He went over what the mechanic had actually found and got my approval. It was pretty close to his guess.

    They were done by about 2:30; road tested up the freeway and all (I noted they added about 15 miles so it was a good test). No codes returned.

  142. E.M.Smith says:

    Way to go H.R.!

    Sometime or other post the name of the shop and city (for those of us who might be similarly passing through… or wanting to but…. ;-)

    BTW, in addition to 100% electric future for EU Ford, they were running an ad on TV in California saying they were going 100% Electric here, too. Looks like no new FORD in my future…

    Hopefully the Dodge Cummins Diesel will hang around… (drooling over 5th wheel ads ;-)

  143. Terry Jackson says:

    “We decided in Florida that we would upgrade the truck and trailer this year. We are going to a 5th -wheel, but one of the smaller ones.”

    H.R., been there, got the shirt, and the booby prize. Get a 3500 Diesel, period. The spring packs have changed a lot, so they ride nice empty, and will handle the load. Diesel will likely get you 11 or 12 mpg towing, gas about 6. That was my experience with a 7,000lb trailer. Also, look at the torque curves. You want max torque at as low a speed as possible. A dually if you go over 16,000 lbs on the trailer otherwise single rear wheel. The 3500 has a heavier frame, but rides the same and drives the same as the 2500, but carries a heavier load. Been that way since about 2012. I had a 2012 Ram 3500 LB DRW Diesel. Best truck ever for long drives, loaded or empty. It just did not like grocery store close in parking, so I got more exercise.

  144. H.R. says:

    It’s Phil Brennan Ford in Perry, Georgia. It’s off either I-75 Exit 131 or 133 and on SR-41, (or maybe County Rd 41) between those exits. You can see 41 from the Interstate and the dealership sits close to the highway for visibility. If you “oops! I just passed it” just get off at the next exit and head either North or South depending on which way you are traveling. It’s on the West side of I-75

    There were a couple of other auto repair shops that looked promising and had good reviews, but they were smaller shops – 2, 3, 4-man shops – and I thought my chances of getting in were better at the dealer AND they’d have the Ford parts in stock.
    BTW, Perry is where the Georgia State Fairgrounds are located. They are just across an overpass from the campgrounds (Fair Harbor RV Park) about 1 mile, maybe less, away. There’s always spots for snowbirds traveling to or from Florida at the campgrounds, but I’d bet reservations are hard to come by during the State Fair. Oh, they have horse barns at the campgrounds so you can bring the horse along with you. I suppose the horse barns are also booked solid during the Fair.

    And they have goats at the campground. Lots of goats in a fenced acre+ area and I have no idea why a campground would have 30 or so goats. I’d ask why, but I enjoy speculating on the mystery of it all. Maybe one day I’ll ask.

  145. Ossqss says:

    Glad things worked out HR.

    You may get sticker shock when you start looking at used Pickups. Been checking that water the last several months. Quite eye opening what they ask now days.

    I did a peek at a new Raptor with some upgrades at a dealer and that thing was over 100k. I did not even look at the F250 King Ranch.

    I got in my new used 2018 Escape and Escaped that place :-)

  146. H.R. says:

    @Terry Jackson – Thanks for the advice! Much appreciated.

    We figured on selecting a trailer, then seeing what truck is required. I’m definitely going diesel. I like Ford, but I’m also on board with the Cummins diesel in Dodge trucks. I can go either way. It’ll be more dependent on the deals offered and I am also taking E.M.’s point to heart; in the near future, Ford may not be there when your diesel needs them. I haven’t seen Dodge go Gaga Green yet, although maybe they will too.

    The 2000 through 2007 diesels sucked as they attempted to comply with gummint regalations. It took all the manufacturers a while to get their diesel ducks in a row. The V-10s of the time were solid, with the only problem being the early V-10s had undersized spark plug threads for the pressure and would blow a plug under extreme load. They had an easy fix repair kit where a larger insert could be installed and a larger thread plug used. Then you never had that problem on that cylinder ever again. I guess my truck was never pushed near to the limits, because I’m still on the original plug size on all 10 cylinders.

    Since I wasn’t going to tie up much money in a truck or trailer in case we didn’t like it or the critters couldn’t tolerate it (they love it! us too), the 2005 Ford with the V-10 was my choice. Newer used trucks were budget -busters. Our trailer, loaded is right about 8,000 pounds, and the V-10 is plenty strong enough for that. It’s rated to tow 12,500 or 13,000, as I recall. I wanted a little safety margin. I knew I’d be ditching it at some point. This year is the time.

    NO Government Motors! GMC is dead to me, though the Mrs. has a Cadillac SRX. That’s what she wanted, and she was paying. I know when to keep my mouth shut.

    P.S. To all:
    I remember Gail Combs writing about her Cummins diesel truck(s) – two of them? – a few years back. As I recall, she swears by them, though I think she said she had a bit of trouble until she found the right mechanic. It’s been a while since that post and the details are fuzzy, but I’m pretty sure she’s all for the Cummins diesels, now. I took note at the time since I was beginning to think about going diesel.

    Gail, if you’re reading, are you still all about the Cummins diesels? If you still have those trucks, then I definitely will have to favor Dodge. Those trucks have to have a zillion miles on them by now.

    Anyone else have a strong endorsement to get me leaning towards them?

  147. H.R. says:

    @Ossqss – Nope. The stun is gone, I’ve been looking, and I know what I’ll be facing. It’s looking like 2015, 2016 and maybe, maybe 2017 is in my price range.

    I could afford new, but then I’d have to sell the house and live in the truck 😜

    P.S. The oxygen sensor on the V-10 has been niggling at the back of my brain, but I plan on ditching the truck before I find out anything more about the O2 sensor on my truck.

  148. jim2 says:

    Phil – some just read and clear the codes, others can set values of the computer. YMMV :)


  149. jim2 says:

    Phil – just make sure it works with your make and model – they are standardized, but the year matters.

  150. E.M.Smith says:

    The Cummins design is based on long haul trucking motors. One trip, heard 2 truckers talking on the CB (yeah a while ago…). One says he was worried sbout his 300k mile engine, so had it pulled apart to take a look. Other one says… “And…”? First guy says everything was still in spec so they just put it back together for a few hunded thousand miles more…

    They have cylender sleeves in them, so every part can be replaced. Being a commercial base engine, parts are everywhere. Expect to need a minor overhaul about 450,000 miles if my Diesels are any guide. Every trucking depot and farm repair shop can repair them.

  151. jim2 says:

    HR: Here is a list of ignition engine codes. The parent page has the others.


  152. Gail Combs says:

    “…Hopefully the Dodge Cummins Diesel will hang around…”

    We have two. A dually (1993) and a 3/4 ton (1992) They are still going strong and I have zero plans on replacing either. The much new Ford Ranger on the other hand is now Found On Road Dead… We are going to have to have it hauled into the mechanic.

  153. Power Grab says:

    @ Gail:

    So what year is the Ford Ranger that was Found On Road Dead?

    Just curious….

  154. Power Grab says:

    @ EM re:
    “My “check engine light” in the little Mercedes came on almost TO Florida.”

    My check engine light came on about a week ago. It was the first warm days after the extreme cold. I thought it might just be a thing that it would adjust itself for.

    The manual said it is related to the emissions system, and even though the car might run right, you should take it in. :-(

    I already have had 2 mega-bills since December on my van. I really don’t want another one at this time. (Still waiting for the utility bills for the cold event to hit…)

    My Buick Century used to have the light come after driving at highway speeds with the AC running, then when I turned off onto a slower road. I thought it was adjusting to the change in conditions…maybe O2 sensors…something. I read about O2 sensors when I had Toyota Cressidas and read on forums about them.

    Anyway…The day before the light came on, I got the message about checking the gas filler cap. It was fine, but I went ahead and removed and replaced it, making it click several times as I tightened it.

    Am I taking chances by waiting? BTW, they did a software update the last time I took the van in (right before the cold even).

  155. E.M.Smith says:


    Yes, you are taking a risk by waiting, but IMHO a minor one. While it could be something like a critical angle of crankshaft sensor that would cause engine timing to go out of spec, potentially even to the point where the engine is knocking so bad it can harm itself, that’s fairly rare.

    My experience has been that if the engine still sounds OK and runs smooth and your gas mileage isn’t shit, it is most often something in the emissions system (O2 sensor) or the gas cap leaking air (moisten surface with a bit of motor oil and tighten- it is gasoline proof rubber so can take oil).

    Remember that there was a time before “check engine” lights when folks listened to their engines and watched their gas mileage to decide what to do.

    Were I in your situation (several vehicles in active use) I’d buy my own code reader. A shop “offered” to read my codes for “only” $147… that was when I decided to just drive back from Florida and see what happened… Nothing happened. So for the cost of getting the codes read, get your own reader. Then you have the information to decide what to do next AND a tool for decades to come.

    There are some places that will “fix” your check engine light for “free”. Typically they just read the codes and try to up-sell you on the “desired” repairs. I’d be willing to have one read the codes, provide me the list, and look them up myself while not buying added services from them (unless they honestly say something like “Need a new gas cap” or “your O2 sensor needs replacing so you won’t pass smog but it’s doing OK for use for a little while more.”

    My mechanic (of about 40 years… ) checks codes for me for free. On one occasion, said something like “Looks like the FOO sensor is glitching every so often and after enough times it throws a code. I reset it, and in a few hundred miles we’ll see if it is throwing more faults or that was just 100,000 miles accumulated sporadic junk.” Well, I went back after about 1,000 miles and it was still clear. So the 1 in a 1000 miles sporadic glitch on a wire was accumulated for about a decade and tossed a code when the count got high enough… It happens. That was long enough ago I’m not sure which car it was, but I think it was the one that just lit up the check engine light.

    FWIW, I personally just ignore the check engine light now as in about 500,000 miles of driving it has never lit up for anything serious. I let the mechanic take care of it when it gets a regular service. That may be very different for other makes / models of cars. For the Mercedes it has been “sporadic glitch count over decade scale” and O2 Sensors. For the Subaru it has only been “gas cap loose” or “tank near empty and you parked for a week and nothing seals so tight it can hold a vacuum”… This is a known thing for Subaru. It takes longer to suck down a near empty tank than the sensor system is geared to accept, so “low tank long parked” means “lite up check engine” after you start it and it doesn’t immediately pull the approved smog suck on the tank.

    The Forum said “Fill your tank and drive around a while” and that reset it…

    You might want to check the car Forum for your car and “check engine light” to see if there is a “usual suspect”…

  156. Ossqss says:

    In some vehicles, check engine is a maintenance reminder and a reset process would be detailed in the manual. They vary by manufacturer.

    In other vehicles, you can disconnect your battery for a few minutes and the system resets. If it pops back up, it might be time to check it further. Many ODB 2 readers are under $100 and have good ratings. Some can be updated for new codes via PC also.

    Other newer vehicles have a high level built in systems check that can be accessed through the applicable dashboard screen interface.

  157. jim2 says:

    For me, the codes have usually been for O2 Sensors. However, in our old F150 pickup, I got one pointing to the Intake Manifold Runner Control. It’s low at the back of the engine. I didn’t want to take anything apart to examine it, so I got my laptop and a snake camera. After several attempts, I got a shot of the runner control arm lying on the floor by the engine, one end completely off. The nylon bushing that holds the arm in place had deteriorated. So, took the upper half of the engine apart, cleaning as I went, until the control was accessible. Replaced the bushings and isolation bolts. It worked fine after that.

  158. philjourdan says:

    Seen and heard: The p is Psaki is silent like the p in President Biden.

  159. philjourdan says:

    @H.R. – Re: Good mechanics

    Beside my own (who knows when he is over his head), there is a place in town that I SWEAR BY! After being told by the dealer that my wife’s Jeep Grand Cherokee (since sold) needed a new transmission, I took it to a place called Weaver Transmission. Never been to them before. But was expecting a $2500 bill (on a 95 car that was worth less than a grand). Got a call the same day. All it needed was a the transmission fluid replaced. Total cost. About $200.

    I tell EVERYONE – if you got a transmission problem, take it to Weaver!

  160. philjourdan says:

    @Powergrab – Agree with EMS. Emission systems means your catalytic converter. It might get you a ticket,but the car will run. I already had one of those. If you take it to the repair shop, they are required by law to either fix it (pricey) or report you.

  161. E.M.Smith says:

    Once Upon A Time, about 36? years ago…

    I bought a 1984 Mercedes Station Wagon “with issues” from a car dealer (at a nice price…). THE biggest was that the AC didn’t blow cold. I had a set of gauges and put them on the car. High side HIGH pressure, low side way too low. Plenty of gas in the system…

    So started the “I’ve never had a Mercedes before let’s test different mechanics” tour. The car had a BUNCH of other stuff, including an odd drive line vibration. At each place, I’d get their “estimate” and “diagnosis” and then let them fix something. The SIZE of the something proportional to their honest.

    Pretty much ALL of them said “You need a new AC Compressor, about $400”. To which I thought: “High side is HIGH, compressor is compressing fine.” then said “You can fix the tail light | door rattle | oil change etc.”

    One guy wanted to cut the ends of my drive shaft and weld on new U joints to fix the vibration as my U joints were worn out; and proudly announced they were “The only shop that has the precision welding rig needed” and for “only” $1200 (when a new drive line is a couple $K – and no, Mercedes U Joints don’t come off the drive shaft). (OK, you can change the transmission fluid… said I… ) Another shop replaced 6 bolts and a rubber disk in the drive line to transmission coupling for about $25 and informed me “Mercedes U joints don’t wear out”… and the vibration was gone. I used them on and off for a decade or two until they went out of business / retired.

    The last shop I went to, I’d held the AC repair back from the others. I was allowed to talk to the mechanic on the shop floor. “Well, think I need a new compressor?” I asked, waving virtual money… “You crazy? High side is HIGH, your compressor is FINE.” After another day of diagnosis, pressurizing the radiator with air, a plastic “shipping plug” blew out and across the room. Put it back together, gas it up, runs fine. He has been my main mechanic ever since. Seems the Dealership had replaced the AC Radiator after a minor accident and blew it on the shipping plug, so wanted to dump the “unfixable” AC car… My net gain was about $3000 on the deal, for being willing to shop around to different mechanics.

    Probably spent $60,000 with him over the years? Maybe more. 2 or 3 Mercedes at a time for pushing 40 years? Yeah, more. All because he was absolutely honest and knew his stuff. Only mechanic where I’ve ever gone in and just said: “Here’s the keys, do what it needs, let me know the bill when it’s done.”

    I’d give a reference, but he’s 100% booked up just with locals…

  162. Ossqss says:

    It is all this sites fault I bought a new used OBD 2 scanner today on Ebay. I got the innova 5310 unit used for $46 bucks (new $140). It is a good scanner with all the needed bells and whistles for me, but has a BT connection that allows for detailed analysis and guidance from their support site through their RepairSolutions2 app. Very deep and accessible knowledge base to help you DIY that others manufacturers did not have.



  163. Power Grab says:

    @ PhilJourdan: I can’t remember what year it was, but my state stopped even requiring car inspections. :-D

    @ EM: I haven’t filled the tank since the night before the cold event, but I write down the details of every fill, so I will definitely look at the mileage. It still runs and drives great. Of course, the ECO mode doesn’t come on now, and the TPMS light has disappeared from the dash.

    @ Ossqss: Thanks for the link for code readers. I have considered getting one of those, but since at least one of our parts businesses (O’Reilly and Auto Zone, maybe others) say they will read your codes for free, I have held off.

    Thanks everyone for the tips and advice. Y’all are the best! :-D

  164. Terry Jackson says:

    @ H.R.
    Cummins is a time tested design, straight 6. The 2012 brakes looked like new after 168,000 miles as I used the engine brake a lot. Also had 2007 5.9 Cummins in a 2500. Great engine, fine truck in the 2005 to 2007 range. The 6.7 Cummins is great from 2012 on. The advantage that the 5.9 has is less emissions issues. It does not have as much torque or HP as the newer ones, but it has enough to tow an RV. Go with the 3500 SRW if you can find one. The cost is the same, but with higher load carrying ability.

  165. Gail Combs says:

    “…. I have no idea why a campground would have 30 or so goats…..”

    Goats (and sheep) are great lawn mowers. Fort Jackson had an underground ammo storage facility and a herd of sheep keeping the grass mowed. (NO SPARKS…) A local tractor implement place here in town also has a ‘goat’ lawn mower. AND one of the companies I worked for had a herd of sheep with dog and shepherd visit once a week to trim the lawn.

    Sheep & goats are nice and quiet with no grass clippings to make you sneeze.

    If you insist on having a solar farm, you should use sheep to keep the grass down. When you need to clean the panels, grab a lamb and use it as a handy wipe. :>) At least that way you get to raise some wool and lambchops… You know something USEFUL!

  166. H.R. says:

    @Terry Jackson: ” The 6.7 Cummins is great from 2012 on.”

    I’m looking for even a little newer than 2012, so that’s some good info.

    Helpful stuff. Thanks!

  167. jim2 says:

    Another time a code reader saved me was when some spark plugs were going bad. The rich mixture fouled the cat converter and got a code for the converter. Changed the spark plugs and blew it out on the road. It took a while, but the cat finally cleaned up and stopped throwing codes. The cat may be on its way out, but its been a couple of years, so saved some money.

  168. Ossqss says:

    @HR, I did a quick used search at the huge (I think worlds largest) Ford dealer in Brandon and thought to share the result for reference purposes. It may be worth a trip back down if you want to buy a vehicle which was not subjected to the Wintery substances used up North.


  169. E.M.Smith says:


    While less salty than up north, ocean / coastal places still get more rust from salt off the ocean / spray than inland places. That’s part of why the oldest antique cars are hauled out of Arizona, Nevada, California (inland) and why I’ve got Very Old Cars ;-)

    Looked at a couple from “over the hills” in Santa Cruz on the coast. Tended to a bit of surface rust on some bits. Bought my Subaru from a city “by the bay” on the peninsula, and discovered a bit of rust on the roof where the paint was worn. You don’t get that inland here.

    Yes, a very minor nit compared to rusted frame, body pan, steering parts, etc. But worth remembering when shopping. If buying things in a coastal city, inspect carefully for hidden rust from salt spray / air.

    Also note that Florida has a $FewHundred “smog impact fee” to register an out of State car (no smog check though… as the air drifts 50 miles and is out to sea… so no smog problems in the State…) so it is cheaper to buy one already in State than to bring in your own and register it from out of State. This fee does not apply to antique cars that, IIRC, are over 25 years old (so 1995 or older).

    When I was looking at cars in Florida, those inland near Orlando looked to generally be rust free but any paint chip spots will rust (and those on my Banana Boat did…) Over the decade+ a bit that I was “Bi-Coastal”, the paint chip spots never rusted in California (inland a bit from the ocean) but did a great job of rusting in Orlando (so I bought a spray can of Rustoleum Yellow and it got measles ;-)

    My conclusion was that minimal protection kept it from rusting (paint, wax, undercoating) but that Florida was not a haven from all rust like inland Western States & Counties.

    Oh, and it spent 2? years with my Son in Chicago where it rather rapidly got a rusted through spot on the lower edge of a body panel… so “Up North” cars are a consumable item with a few years lifespan… I’d never buy an old used car in the Salt Zone.

    I don’t know about places like Tennessee or Missouri, inland from the salt air but not in the Frozen North, so someone else would need to opine about them.

  170. Ossqss says:

    Here is a Wait? What? link from the CDC. LOL


  171. Ossqss says:

    BTW, I have been getting several notifications on very large 7+ shakers today near NZ. Also there has been a big uptick near Iceland sparking Volcano concerns. Heads up to those in the zones.


  172. E.M.Smith says:


    OMG! Just how do you find this stuff?

    I mean, really, how does one end up looking for and finding a CDC web page on prepping for the Zombie Apocalypse?

    I love it, BTW!

  173. E.M.Smith says:

    Yeah, there’s been an interesting set of volcanic activity lately around the globe.

    Not quite enough to make it Big News, but certainly enough to be interesting. Sinabung
    Iceland getting ready to blow:
    One in Italy too.

    But all in highly active volcanoes so to some extent “normal”… but with odd timing.

  174. cdquarles says:

    In humid areas, rusting will happen. Salt helps speed it up. Oxygen, water, and iron is all that is needed. All of the Gulf coastal states and along the Atlantic would be similar to FL, so TX, LA, MS, AL, GA, SC. Here, we put sand on icy roads, not salt. As with our host, I am not sure about TN, AR, OK, or even NC and VA; which I’d put on the border between the warmer and humid areas and the colder ones. That said, the western parts of NC border the eastern parts of TN and those are mountainous, though not as elevated as the Rockies or the Sierras. The mountains on either side of I81/US 11 get to 6000 ft, but that’s WV and VA, mostly.

  175. Ossqss says:

    @cd, I have lived in Florida, several miles inland, since 1986 and have never had any issue with rust or corrosion on any vehicles. Those in close proximity to the coastal waters and sea spray mist drift, most definitely do.

  176. Ossqss says:

    Here is a live stream of the area in Iceland that is functional. Delta placed so it does not embed.


  177. Ossqss says:

    Note, you may have to click the live button to have it stream “Live”. I did, as it stopped after a second or 2.

  178. Ossqss says:

    WT!, and another 7.8 immediately after that. I hope something is just broken in the instrumentation.


  179. cdquarles says:

    I have lived in AL since 1962. Rust happens. You just have to be aware of it and take precautions. My nephew’s collection of vintage autos all have rusting present. I am well inland, too.

  180. Steven Fraser says:

    @EM: YAHAS – Yet Another Homemade Alcohol Stove

    During my internet parapatesis today, ran into this home-do stove. Looks easily made as-is, and could be enhanced without complexity to increase burn rate if desired. I liked the way he did the stand :-) i thought after the fact that it would be simple to put a scale on the side of the alcohol container to show the fuel level.

  181. philjourdan says:

    @EMS – Once Upon A Time, about 36? years ago…

    Yep! My first experience with my mechanic was with a 74 Corrolla (POS). He found a bolt had come off the drive train. No – Charge. Next was the Emissions system. He said I needed the back end not the front end. It failed Inspection. He fixed the front end for parts cost only. no charge.

    Any wonder I it has bee 42 years? And counting. My truck as 200K+ miles on it,. The check engine light seems to be a favorite fixture. But I can drive by his shop and he will diagnose it on the spot and if there is a real problem, schedule me the next day,.

    Find a good one (if you are not a good one) and keep going back!!!! I did refer a lot of folks to him and some still are going (some moved out of state).

  182. philjourdan says:

    And I had to laugh. Just recently read an article about how my VeHICLE was the least likely to have the Check Engine light come on.

    I guess that is for those that have less than 200k miles on the, ;-)

  183. Ossqss says:

    FWIW, I just stumbled across a show on Netflix called “Meat Eater”. Hunting show that apparently has been on for 9 years, that I never saw before. Be forewarned, you might get hungry :-)

  184. Ossqss says:

    Dang,, I forgot to link a trailer.

  185. jim2 says:

    Here’s one for EMS:

    Programmer Got a Minecraft Server Running On His Canon DSLR


  186. E.M.Smith says:

    Well that’s not good:


    POSTED ONMARCH 4, 2021
    Update on activity in Fagradalsfjall, Krýsuvík, Reykjanes volcanoes

    The situation on Reykjanes peninsula is getting complicated due to activity between three volcanoes.
    This article is written at 15:22 UTC.

    The volcanoes that are now showing activity on Reykjanes peninsula

    Reykjanes volcano
    Krýsuvík volcano
    Fagradalsfjall volcano (added from 04-March-2021)

    Fagradalsfjall volcano has no document eruption history over the last 10.000 years and the main volcano location is unknown if it exists.

    Updates from the last few hours

    Small rift valley has started to form between Keili mountain and Fagradalsfjall mountain.
    This is part of the rift zone that is Reykjanes peninsula.
    Harmonic tremor stopped this morning and as Icelandic Met Office has been telling the news the origins of this harmonic tremor was earthquake activity that was so dense it created this harmonic activity. In the morning the activity dropped a little.
    Magma continues to move in the Fagradalsfjall volcano system.
    Earthquake activity is now between the volcanoes Reykjanes, Fagradalsfjalls and Krýsuvík. Why that is unclear but magma movement for now is only in Fagrdalsfjall volcano system.
    Largest earthquake in last 24 hours had a magnitude of Mw4,5. Over the last 48 hours total of 72 earthquakes with magnitude over Mw3,0 have taken place. There is no sign of activity slowing down.

    Nothing like a cluster of volcanoes all warming up at once while a rift vally tears into your island to make it an interesting day…

  187. E.M.Smith says:


    That is funny! Proving once again that if it has a computer in it, somebody will hack it.

    Saw where one guy got into the 4? Bit Linux on an SD card and looked around…. yes, every SD card has a minimal stripped down embedded Linux to shovel hits around the card memory…

  188. H.R. says:

    I just hate it when a volcano erupts in my backyard. And a rift valley… YUCK!

    Gonna need more than a lawn rake and a pooper-scooper to clean up that mess.
    I’d say that’s a mite odd except that I’m one of those who are “woke” to geologic time scales. So I’d say, “This is very interesting. What is causing this to happen?”

    I say that because odds are, this has all happened before, but no-one has been around to observe such an event.

    Well, we’re here today and can observe the hell out of it. Is it gonna blow or is it just gonna fade saway? Who knows? But it will be something to watch if it get’s an attitude.

  189. E.M.Smith says:

    Or will the island just rip into 2 islands and / or make a few more islands?

  190. jim2 says:

    I’ve seen speculation that when the Sun’s activity goes low, volcanoes begin to erupt and that is the proximate cause of global cooling. We shall see what we shall see.

  191. E.M.Smith says:


    Also the rate of “spontaneous decay” of radioisotopes has been shown to vary, though they don’t know why.

    I’d speculate that the different cosmic ray flux is involved in both. And that the more active volcanoes comes about from more atom splitting heating the magma more…

    In other news:

    Arizona FOX anchor quits as pressure to be more “left” becomes problematic…


  192. jim2 says:

    There is also less atmospheric pressure during solar minimums. There has to be a certain, fairly well-defined point where the “cap” on the volcano fails. A small lessening of atmospheric pressure could be enough to cross the threshold for some of them.


  193. The True Nolan says:

    @E.M. “I’d speculate that the different cosmic ray flux is involved in both. And that the more active volcanoes comes about from more atom splitting heating the magma more…”
    The Suspicious Observers YouTube channel goes into quite a bit of well scientifically referenced and documented discussion on the subject. Thumbnail synopsis? A combination of factors, including Solar outbursts, solar wind, Solar magnetic field, Galactic magnetic fields, cosmic rays rates, weakened Terrestrial magnetic field, and Ohmic heating of the low velocity sheer zone reduces viscosity and leads to volcanoes, earthquakes and (in extremis) major catastrophe. The channel also does a LOT of study on just why the CAGW crowd got it all wrong.

  194. The True Nolan says:

    The Babylon Bee continues to make mores sense than the New York Times and CNN combined.

  195. Ossqss says:

    You can eyeball the obs here if you like.


    There was an G2 storm on the 3rd, IIRC.

    You can subscribe to the alerts on this stuff, but make sure you filter accordingly or you will be bombarded :-)


  196. cdquarles says:

    In other news, what does our host and our denizens think of this: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2021/03/06/linn-wood-whistleblower-connects-very-important-dot-on-deep-state-surveillance-and-rosenstein-activity-with-fbi-to-compromise-people/?

    I’ve read it, and while I’d like to say it is unbelievable; I find myself thinking “Heck yes, this is very believable”, and scary to boot. To say that D. C. is a cesspool is an insult to cesspools, and corruption just scratches the surface of it. Ugh.

  197. E.M.Smith says:


    I believe it is called “Dirty Up” so you “dirty up” someone when you want to remove them from a position, prevent their entry to a position, or gain control of them.

    IMHO, pretty much SOP for Washington.

    Look at the attempt to Dirty Up Kavanaugh in the SCOTUS hearings.
    Look at the ongoing and persistent attempts to Dirty Up any Trump Supporters, the folks who attended the DC speech, Proud Boys, etc.
    Look at the attempt to Dirty Up Trump with the whole phony Russia thing.
    Look at the Stone Dirty Up via FBI SWAT team on trumped up nothing charges.

    It isn’t new, and it isn’t going to end. I’d never run for any high office simply because it is wrestling with pigs in a shit pile; even if I were qualified. You KNOW you will be dirtied up by everyone who can try.

    I think it explains a great deal about the kind of person who does take those jobs. Either naive about it (so get dirtied up and controlled) or don’t mind the pig-poo so much…

    Pick Your Dirty Up: Bimbo Eruption, Russian Collusion Hoax, Info Theft, Child Porn, Participating in Violence or Inciting Violence,…

    Note that Pwned by China is not a “dirty up”, it is the controlling agency…

  198. philjourdan says:

    @CD – Re: ConservativeTreeHouse – I have found that Sundance does not post conspiracy theories. HIs articles are always well researched with links to supporting documentation. So it is both believable (if gob smacking) and true. Sadly so.

  199. cdquarles says:

    Agreed … yet folk want to call Atty. Lin Wood crazy. Sound to me that he has the receipts to back up the allegations he has been making. Do they really want to go there? Do they really think they can control this? Obviously they do think such. So sad, indeed.

  200. philjourdan says:

    What folks? The ones that ban any conversation about the election being stolen? Seems they are in the same group. They have to suppress speech in order to protect their lies. Why else suppress speech? It is only to protect the lies.

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