W.O.O.D. – 20 July 2022


This is another of the W.O.O.D. series of semi-regular
Weekly Occasional Open Discussions.
(i.e. if I forget and skip one, no big)

Immediate prior one here:

and remains open for threads running there (at least until the ‘several month’ auto-close of comments on stale threads).

Canonical list of old ones here:

“Me” News

Bought a house and escrow closes in just a few days (likely early next week).

Next comes the Schlep Stuff Road Trip to get all my stuff out of storage. Plus all the buying new stuff and fixing up what needs it…

The prior W.O.O.D. got so full that it was slow to load on the Chromebook and a PITA on the tablet, so I’m making this new one despite not having a lot to put in the top notes here.


This will be DIY for a while still. I did do a Binge Watch catch up session and there’s a bunch of good ones, so well worth going there:


I may retrofit a review of a couple of the latest ones here as time permits. They’re pretty good!


Sri Lanka is in the toilet big time, and ran their “leader” out of town, burning his house down.

Dear WEFies & GEBs: Do take note where your “Green Policies” lead. They just got there before the rest of us as they implemented your policies first. This will happen in your countries too, if you “Do The Stupid” with things like banning fertilizer and fuels.

At present, Panama is having some kind of unrest too. I’ll likely do a posting on it and other similar countries / events: Just realize that if Panama blows up, “Logistics” without the canal in operation will be very “interesting”… Then add in Netherlands, Italy, Greece, Spain, etc. etc. Oh, and Pakistan is on the verge of collapse too. Think about all those Taliban in Afghanistan next door, fully equipped with lots of US Hummvees and guns and all, just talking with the Brothers next door about guarding the nukes for them during the economic collapse… (guesses are about 200 nukes with delivery systems)

It looks like the GEBs & Gang Green have moved over one more element on the Periodic Table. It was all Carbon Carbon Carbon!!! Now they have added Nitrogen. One hopes they stop there and don’t add Oxygen to the Forbidden Elements… after all, it is in both Carbon Dioxide and Nitrogen Oxides (that are actually the things they are all hot and bothered about).

The Dems are advancing a bill to add 4 more Justices to the SCOTUS. “Watch this space” as IF they do that, all hell will break loose. (Both legally and physically, IMHO). It is a hard core end run around the will of the people and will have 1/2 the country ready to “Do a Lanka” on them, IMHO. IF they succeed, I’d expect that the Senate will block confirmation for long enough to make it a “show of shows” in time for the election. I’d also expect to see a giant up-tick in “cancel last election for fraud” support.

Ukraine is plodding along. We have dueling articles per Germany & Gas. Gazprom has sent a Force Majeure letter to the EU saying “maybe no gas and not our fault” while Putin (and Russia Today) are saying “gas flow will return to pre-shutdown levels” as maintenance finishes (so 40% as the repaired turbine is not yet in Russia).

IMHO, Russia wants to keep it running at 40% so that there isn’t enough incentive to go hard core on alternatives. Keep folks warm and productive for now. This also preserves the “stick” of shutting it off in January if needed. At 40% Europe can not put enough in storage to make it through winter, so Russia gets to “be the good guy” by keeping the gas on just enough right now; but preserves the value of the Gas Valve into winter. I’m also pretty sure they would not just obviously turn it off; but would have a “Ukrainian Missile” hit some part that isn’t too expensive to fix after they “capture” it. They want deniability and control, and that takes a subtle approach.

The Euro is tanking, hard, over all of this. Essentially at parity with the $US ($1.02 to the € just now). Outflows from Europe are huge, I’d guess, as folks expect the EU / Germany to auger in during winter. IF Germany has an economic halt on winter gas, THE major economic driver of the EU is unplugged and demand for Euros to pay for German Cars drops to zero. The FX (Foreign Exchange) impacts of that are being reflected in current exchange rates, IMHO. Plus add in the risk of W.W.III in Europe if NATO pushes their Stupid Act just a little too far. Bring in Sweden, Finland, others? Put missiles that reach Moscow on the Russian Border? Ukraine dumps missiles on Crimea? (that Russia counts as Russian Territory… and they, Russia, are the ones that decide when Russian Territory has been attacked and war is declared, so can use their whole military structure).

The whole world is in a mess right now, and it all belongs at the feet of the WEF, EU, and China Joe.

I suggest a big Hunker Down and Prep Up, ’cause this ride is NOT slowing down and not getting any smoother any time soon. Especially if “Excess Deaths” due to the Clot Shot continue running at 40% (or worse, start a logistics curve rise…). There is ever increasing “Immune escape” and “vaccine escape” happening, with rapidly rising sickness in the general population in heavily vexxinated places, like Europe. Russia had their own, more traditional vaccine, so is highly likely to not be experiencing this issue.

Virus gonna virus and we’ve done nothing but put pressure on this one to evolve away from any vaccination and to escape our immune systems, especially among those with compromised Innate Immunity System from too many vexxinations causing too much immune fatigue, lack of T-Cell memory, and low white cells (along with the potential for ADE Antibody Dependent Enhancement from all those non-neutralizing antibodies).

Essentially, the armies of the USA, UK, Europe and anywhere else that mandated The Jab are “dead man walking” level of damage for some unknown percentage. (See football / soccer player deaths for a reasonable metric of damage…) So the best we can do is hope that we don’t need to use them anywhere.

Good news? Not much. Maybe that India has a very low vaccination rate so may retain an army capable of holding off Pakistan & China? Unless, of course, a few dozen Taliban Nukes land on their major cities… but at least then that would settle the border disputes with China… /snark;

It’s a pretty grim world when the Global Leadership have collectively been turned into Psychopathic Nihilists. But that’s where we are. One can only hope some of the nukes land on Davos when they are meeting…

For more recent events, see:

Bongino Report:


Or Whatfinger:


I’ve also gotten addicted to the Top Ten Memes of the week from WatchMAGA here:


They have interesting “bite” to them, along with a tendency to highlight the news of the week in memes, so good as a social attitude pointer too. Plus they are “way fun” ;-)

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367 Responses to W.O.O.D. – 20 July 2022

  1. John Hultquist says:

    There is a connection between the “ WEF, EU, and China Joe” and Sri Lanka being in turmoil, but such countries don’t need help in screwing things up. Others are harder to explain. The European countries (inc. the UK) fit my latest, just coined phrase:
    “Earth is Doomed by Climate Change” — EDCC™ —
    This is an axiom accepted and internalized by many. Fools all!

    – – – –
    I’m still holding out for a fact-based report on the covid panic and all the consequences, true or imagined. My major unease is the lack of concern regarding the massive number of shots that have been used. “66.8% of the world population has received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.
    12.24 billion doses have been administered globally, and 4.09 million are now administered each day.”
    Give or take a couple million, these are huge numbers. Estimates of the number of deaths (world) each day is variable, but maybe 150,000. In the USA, there are about 3,400,000 deaths each year.
    I think the sorting-out of deaths by cause and proving the covid shots responsible for various sub-sets, is a herculean task – not yet done.
    People are different, so I don’t doubt that some have immediate (or short time) deadly reactions. However, I’m not yet accepting this: “continue running at 40% (or worse, …”

    Variants are emerging faster than researchers can keep track. Amazing!

  2. YMMV says:

    “Earth is Doomed by Climate Change” and “dead man walking” jabbed armies

    file under: “When Cure Becomes Worse Than the Disease”

    It reminds me of the famous Vietnam War quote:

    (NYT 1968 Tet Offensive)
    (more about that quote: https://aphelis.net/destroy-village-order-save-unknown-1968/)
    Whether or not it was accurate reporting, the theme is recurring.

    Except now it is ourselves we are bombing not some distant village.

  3. another ian says:

    “Hump Day Hilarity – EU ‘Smack in the Face’ Heatwave Edition”


    Wider range news

  4. another ian says:

    “Anything you can spend we can spend bigger”

    “$87 Billion Climate Spending Madness in Calgary”

  5. another ian says:

    A comment at Jo Nova

    “It’s world ivermectin day this Saturday thanks to Dr Tess Lawrie and friends.


    This link has a good outline showing how IVM works on a virus. Very interesting.”


  6. another ian says:


    “RNA Therapeutics and DNA Editing | Jennifer Doudna

    26K views · 7 years ago

    WEF Video


    Via http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2022/07/21/july-21-2022-reader-tips/#comment-1662670

  7. YMMV says:

    Yes, the World Ivermectin Day website has a nice how-it-works section.
    From the IVM stories part:

  8. another ian says:


    “A Polish-Ukrainian “commonwealth”? Now there’s a thought…”


  9. another ian says:

    “”Money talks, bull**** walks”

    I note with interest – and concern – a step that’s a very clear forecast of what lies ahead for consumers in the US economy.”

    More at


    A reading of the tea leaves at Wells Fargo

  10. another ian says:

    “During his opening monologue tonight, Fox News host Tucker Carlson outlined the background of Joe Biden’s “climate emergency”, and the hypocrisies of their theories as compared to their behavior.


  11. 51% of Americans expect to see another civil war with in 5 years


    Many would bring a gun to a political row.

    Does that ring true? I must say that the US looks more fractious and powerless than at any time since I started taking an interest when I worked at USAF Greenham Commo0n in the 1970’s.

    I would put part of it down to the US flight from Afghanistan which impacted on your allies and bore too many resemblances to the retreat from Saigon for it to be comfortable. Also the BLM riots just seemed to encourage the leaders in many cities instead of being seen as the marxist insurrections they mostly were.

  12. Simon Derricutt says:

    Some bits I found funny today…. https://www.gbnews.uk/news/climate-change-blamed-on-colonialism-and-slavery-by-greenpeace-uk/342043 misses the point that immigrants tend to be poorer than others and it takes a while (generations) to build patrimony when you start with nothing. Thus it’s not People Of Colour (which I tend to misread as POS) that are predominantly living in the cheaper housing but simply poorer people. Which particular section of the community happens to be poor at the moment varies – when I was young I did see signs on boarding-houses “No dogs, no Irish” since Ireland was poor and thus people left it to hopefully find a better life elsewhere, and arrived poor and took the jobs that no-one else would do because they were badly paid for the work involved. Education level is involved here, too. Well-paid jobs need education, and if you don’t have that you don’t get the well-paid job unless you build the company up yourself. Since it is looking to be a good chance that Britain will get an Asian-ethnic Prime Minister pretty soon, and he’s extremely rich and well-educated, it’s getting hard to blame everything in Britain on racist politics. My own experience of having a Nigerian foster-daughter for a while was that she was very popular at school because she was the only Nigerian there. No problems with racial prejudice in a small town in the Forest of Dean. She was different, and thus interesting.

    Then there’s this: https://www.gbnews.uk/news/quidditch-to-change-name-to-distance-itself-from-jk-rowling-as-trans-row-rages-on/341779 which is strange. The only reason Quidditch exists is because of J.K.Rowling’s stories, and kids wanting to replicate the books. If they change the name, and distance themselves from the books, where’s the appeal? Will people still turn up with broomsticks and dressed as wizards, despite the officials saying “that’s not us at all, we’re distant from all that”? Not that their broomsticks would fly anyway (though that might be possible if the reactionless electric drives improve as I think they will, though I think hoverboards will be the first product to use them).

  13. E.M.Smith says:

    @Climate Reason:

    I’ve not read the links yet,, so only answering based on your comment:

    “Does that ring true?”. Well, there’s 2 things that might reference so I’ll answer both.

    1) Do 51% of Americans expect a Civil War? Yeah, I’d guess that’s about right. The roughly 55% that voted for Trump know we have an illegitimate government run by a Chinese Stooge. We’re the same folks who own most of the guns, and we’re the same folks who feel our constitutional duty to form up as the Organized Militia when called upon to do so to save the country from usurpation. I’d wager about 20% are ready to sign up now, and about 31% are doing “watchful waiting” to see if the mid-terms are equally fraudulent before preparing for the call. About another 29% largely oblivious and unaware, too busy in daily life, and the rest (20% more) think everything is just fine and Biden is a legitimate and pretty good Prez. (This last 20% are the same ones who get Darwin Awards, “star” on Ridiculousness, and believe Space Aliens took them to space.)

    2) Would “many” bring a gun to a political row? Absolutely. Had I a CCW (“carry permit”) or was in a “Constitutional Carry” State, I’d carry at political rallies / events. Why? Because BLM & Antifa goons love to assault people, and there’s a high risk of some nut job trying to do a “Mass Shooting” that would need a “Good Guy With A Gun” to stop it. More guns held by good guys means more peace and fewer shootings.

  14. I note your much loved President has Covid. He should have worn a mask and allowed himself to be vaccinated. Oh wait! He has been vaccinated 3 times and continually wears masks. . So something doesn’t add up.

    That Biden and Pelosi are in effect the leaders of the West demonstrates how low we have fallen.

  15. cdquarles says:

    Testing positive for covid is not necessarily the same as having a true case of covid illness. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is more political theater (something I’ve been aware of since 1962).

  16. The True Nolan says:

    Visit beautiful Kalamazoo! See the museums! Dine at fine restaurants! Crap on the sidewalks! It’s all here, waiting for YOU!

    Nota bene: Pause linked video at about 00:15 to read other reported changes in Kalamazoo law. The report only really goes into the defecation change, but IF (big “IF”) the other changes are correct, I can see some very unforeseen consequences. Or maybe they are not unforeseen at all. Maybe someone really, really, REALLY, wants to drive down property values so they can buy cheaply later on. (And in San Francisco. And Chicago. And New York. And Seattle. etc.)

  17. H.R. says:

    TonyB: “Also the BLM riots just seemed to encourage the leaders in many cities instead of being seen as the marxist insurrections they mostly were.”

    The “leaders” of those cities are marxists themselves and all on board with the WEF ‘destroy it all so we can build back better’ agenda. Notice it only happens in Democrat controlled cities and with Democrat Governors heading the State. The leaders of those cities encourage BLM and Pantifa, though it’s passive. They are protected and have get-out-of-jail-free cards.

  18. YMMV says:

    cdquarles: “Testing positive for covid is not necessarily the same as having a true case of covid illness. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is more political theater”

    I was thinking the CIA would be arranging to have him taken out on some visit to a foreign country, but then this came up. Yes, the perfect way to get rid of the presidential embarrassment would be for him to get Covid (and not recover). THAT would be theater.

    Too bad, it’s only a mild case, but not to worry, there is still Paxlovid to take care of him.

    White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said Thursday […] that the most important thing is that he was fully vaccinated and double boosted.

    He is so important maybe they should give him a booster shot every week.

    Biden tested positive for COVID-19 Thursday morning and is experiencing mild symptoms, including a runny nose, occasional dry cough and fatigue, the White House said.

    Which variant?

  19. philjourdan says:

    On the subject of “virus gotta virus”, Polio just made a comeback in the US. 3 guesses how and the first 2 do not count. Expect all the nasties to return now.

  20. another ian says:

    The “New Scary Red Colour Scheme” in Action


  21. another ian says:

    Another try

    [Reply: Replaced “?format=jpg” with “.jpg” as Twitter is “special”… – EMS]

  22. another ian says:

    “The Left’s Plan to Seize Control of Local Election Offices”


    Via SDA

  23. another ian says:

    “The anti-meat propaganda war is dialing up”


    “It’s all propaganda, of course. I know that, because I’ve been to Uganda (and many other African nations) many times. I am an African, dammit! I was born and bred there. The fact that I’m also Caucasian (in other words – gasp! shock! horror! – white) is irrelevant. I know what Africans eat in most parts of that continent, and what they like – certainly better than almost all outsiders.

    Sure, Africans eat grasshoppers – mostly because the grasshoppers have eaten their crops, and they’ve got to eat something or starve to death. I’ve eaten grasshoppers myself on occasion. They were just another food-from-necessity, certainly not food-because-I-love-their-flavor. (Don’t eat the hind legs. They’re barbed. They bite back.)”

    And more

  24. another ian says:

    Via Pointman

    “A very interesting interview by RT of Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister. Only accessibly because of censorship if you’re using TOR but well worth a listen.


    Seems to open OK here without

  25. Ossqss says:

    Tool time tip.

    I have been obtaining some battery compatible tools for my, soon to be and FSU grad, daughter. I picked HART tools from Walmart as they are very reasonable and manufactured by the same company that makes some other brands (Ridgid, Milwaukee, etc.). Same form factor as Ridgid (I own) and I was not giving her any of mine :-)

    So today I picked up a well rated 1/2″ drill and battery with charger for less than 60 bucks. Several reviews said the batteries would not charge out of the box, and I got one.

    Voltage was 3.53v on the 20-volt battery and would not charge with the charger provided. It seems the charger needs to see something higher to recognize the battery to charge it safely.

    I basically jumped the battery with my SuperBrain 977 charger I had for a few seconds (4-5) to raise the voltage up to near 15v and plugged it back into the standard charger that came with it and boom, it worked.

    This tells me a couple things. These tools probably sat off the coast of California for many months/year before they got to the shelves and the batteries degraded their charge, and also the chargers used have thresholds that are too conservative if the voltage gets too low.

    I do plan on calling Hart tomorrow to leverage a possible replacement battery from them also, as I suspect they have a liberal replacement scenario on these at this point.

    As they say in my neck of the woods, We are Fixin to find out!

  26. Ossqss says:

    On Current Events>

  27. YMMV says:

    Among people around the age of 80 who have been double vaccinated, that would include people like Joe Biden, the per capita rate of medical incidences, including hospitalizations for death, is nearly twice as high as the rate of serious incidence for the unvaccinated. This is 180 days after vaccination. What is that and why is no one interested?

    Biden is said to be taking Paxlovid. Dr. Been and Dr. Hong have an interesting discussion about Paxlovid. The studies that showed some effectiveness were only done with unvaccinated people. Pfizer says there is no significant effectiveness for vaccinated people. And it has downsides, such as: it interferes with many of the other drugs that older people could be taking.

  28. another ian says:


    You could turn your garden into an earner when you get a good sun tan going –


    Via SDA

  29. another ian says:



    Via SDA

  30. another ian says:

    More covid “And they said” examples

    “Another WEF Success Story”


  31. p.g.sharrow says:

    OMG ! I must be White Privileged !
    I spent yesterday processing the twelve roosters I killed and plucked the day before along with weeding and Hand cultivation of the 50 x 60 kitchen garden and acre of fruits where I live, working in the near 100F sun.

  32. H.R. says:

    Save the chicken lips for me, pg. That’s the best eatin’ part. 😉

  33. Jeff says:

    @ another ian, this? (sometimes “?format=” gets stuck in there) (mr .)

    That looks like over here on our (Germany) weather “state-sponsored fearporn” forecasts… Even our hypochondriac health minister is saying we’re all gonna die, if not of Corona, the heat wave will do it (see NTZ for a post on that). And to add to the “joy”, we’ll probably run out of gas and electric (and wood and coal) just about the time that winter hits :)

    I remember WUWT had a running series on “color inflation”…

    Funny thing, those temps look like a normal summer to me…

  34. The True Nolan says:

    @ another ian: Thanks for your link to Dr. Ryan Cole video. Well worth a watch. One thing I thought especially noteworthy: I suppose we all remember the earlier study finding vax mRNA lasted at least 60 days. In the video you linked, Dr. Ryan Cole now mentions a study which indicates vaxx mRNA persists for at least 120 days. Go to 2:30 – 3:05.

    Would be worthwhile to know whether the mRNA is at least decreasing over that time. What is its half life?

  35. jim2 says:

    The question is, will they buy carbon offsets?

    On Monday, Dutch reforestation company Land Life started what has become a 35,000 acre forest fire in Spain.

    The fire started in Bubierca, a province of Zaragoza, the capital of autonomous community Aragon, when a Land Life contractor planting trees accidentally set off sparks that ignited nearby plant life.

    “The fire started while one of our contractors was using a retro-spider excavator to prepare the soil to plant trees later this winter,” Land Life said in a statement on Thursday. “The operators alerted the emergency services. The emergency teams are working non-stop to control the fire and have fortunately established the fire perimeter. Nonetheless, we are devastated by the latest estimate that the damage will be around 14,000 hectares,” or roughly 35,000 acres.”


  36. another ian says:


    That is the one. Notice that the temperatures were higher back in 2017 and still green

  37. another ian says:

    “Natural immunity may last three times as long as vaccine immunity (and Omicron infections give about 75% protection against Omicron).

    Natural immunity against Omicron from a previous Omicron infection is better than advertised (75%+) so far”


  38. another ian says:

    To borrow from SDA – “Mischief is important”

    “Breaking: just handed the Victorian governor the signed resignation of one Daniel Andrews as Premier of Victoria”


    More at


    And read to the end

  39. another ian says:

    Exercises in world population density

    Via SDA

  40. another ian says:

    Latest Pointman



  41. H.R. says:

    @another ian – I clicked on the “read the full conversation on twitter” link for the population density and wOw! that had some really interesting stuff as follow-up. Better’n in fact than the initial image of the global situation.

    There’s some eye-opening stuff in the complete twitter thread.

    Thanks, d-u-u-u-d-e. Good find. Might see another comment or two on that.

    P.S. How’s that JD tractor of your kid’s mates getting on? Will they get parts or the solution that gets it rolling this year, or will the have the World’s Ugliest, Oddest, and Most Expensive Garden Gnome in their front yard?

  42. another ian says:


    I haven’t had an update on the JD

    And for general interest –

    “A Wild Ride”

    “More about that missile-versus-C-47 encounter”


  43. jim2 says:

    Pointman may have, well, a … point …

    These opinions might be dismissed as partisan politics but it is notable that news of Saudi Arabia’s interest in membership of the BRICS group came out in advance of President Biden’s visit. And while President Biden was having his meeting with the kingdom’s de facto ruler Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman in Jeddah, BRICS International Forum president Purnima Anand reported on the same day that three more countries — which included Egypt and Turkey along with Saudi Arabia — could join the BRICS group “very soon”. This followed earlier announcements that Iran and Argentina had formally applied for membership with Chinese support. The accession of new countries was discussed by Russia, India and China at the 14th BRICS summit held (virtually) last month.


  44. another ian says:


    “Treehouse Tips
    July 23, 2022 | sundance | 608 Comments

    My jaw came near the floor today when I opened this month’s electricity bill to find a notification of a 28% increase in electricity rates, effective immediately. An increase of 28%…. just like that.”

    “In the past we have used CTH threads to spotlight the smart thinking and resourcefulness of Treepers from all walks of life. A discussion thread where people can share tips, things that can actually be done, to help offset the financial pressures during severe economic times. I think we may all benefit from starting a series of post like that again.

    Let us share our wisdom and experience again. ”


  45. The True Nolan says:

    Gonzalo Lira predicting that Zelensky will be assassinated by the US and his death will be blamed on the Russians.

    Love or hate Lira, I like it when people make clear predictions. He did not, that I noticed, say WHEN, but it sounded to me that he is implying sometime soon.

  46. philjourdan says:

    @TonyB – DeSantis Please get it right! And yes, he can be the next president if Trump steps aside. Or the 48th if he runs as his running mate, Trump is running. DeSantis is his biggest pupil!

  47. another ian says:


    Re your moving of stuff

    “As the video points out, the pandemic “stimulus” packages had a whole lot to do with stoking unusually brisk demand for autos that people happily overpaid for. Now they are handing those autos back to the creditors in alarming numbers.”

    More at http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2022/07/23/the-canary-is-dead/

  48. Phil

    I originally typed DeSantis but my ipad decided it didn’t like it!

    I know it won’t be popular to say it here, but Trump is very divisive even amongst Republicans and he has little chance of attracting Democrats. So I suspect DeSantis would be more likely to win and at his age hopefully have 2 terms and clear the swamp

  49. another ian says:

    “Banning Modern Agriculture and High Crop Yields?”

    Atrazine this time


  50. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian, per Grasshoppers:

    I found this bit quite interesting:

    A cup of grasshoppers is slightly more expensive than a kilogram (2.2lbs) of beef, which goes for around 13,000USh (£2.86/$3.42). However, with only one cup of grasshoppers, I made three meals.

    So a cup of bugs costs more than 2.2 POUNDS of beef, eh? BUT, the author can stretch it to make “three meals”. Well, I can take ONE pound of ground beef and make 6 nice hamburger patties out of it (chain fast food is usually 8 to the pound, and “deluxe almost too big to eat” is 4 / pound).

    Sure sounds to me like bugs are highly inefficient as a food source…

    Oh, and I changed “?format=jpg” to “.jpg” for your second image attempt. Twitter is “Special”… though after that I noticed Jeff posted the same fix…

    Oh, and while I appreciate the thought, I intend to have a garden too small for supporting more than lives in the house. Plus I’ll tend to concentrate on “Can-able” things like green beans and such that can be “put up” for bad years or even just months when for whatever reason I can’t work the garden. There’s always the risk of a “crop failure” and best to be prepared for it…


    Oh Gawd! Plucking chickens (Gag!)… I’ve done it a few times and never got good at it. It is possibly my least favorite chore. Though in honesty 2/3 of them were not chickens but pheasants and I’m not sure if they are harder.

    Dad had me “dry plucking” and that was going very slowly. So then he tried swapping me to the hot wet dunk plucking. The smell and mess of a dead bird dunked in hot water still haunts me…

    I’d rather just skin them and be done. BUT, in a real subsistence context you want all the fat calories in the skin. Sigh. I’d really rather eat fried frogs. No plucking and better flavor. Just skin, soak in salt water, flour and fry…

    Out here, if SHTF, I’ll be looking at fish & gators as the preferred proteins. (Wonder if anyone has a “how to frog farm” guide for Florida? 8-)


    But, but… it’s a feature!. Now they have all those empty acres to plant and SELL the carbon offsets….

    @Per Population Density:

    Nice graphic. Notice that almost ALL of the “population problem” is in:

    Egypt (with some other bits of Muslim World)
    and what may be Nigeria (where twins are normal and singletons unusual)

    Based on that “population of the earth exploding!!!” they want those of us in nearly empty lands who have children in balance with nature and manage our lands well to be extirpated and replaced with folks from lands that don’t do that… Oh, and we have to eat bugs because folks who have despoiled their lands eat bugs…

  51. E.M.Smith says:

    @Climate Reason:

    NO! Please! Don’t take my Governor from me! I’m looking forward to Florida becoming the New World Leader in trade and freedom as New York & California implode….


    As long as Mr. Z is useful, he will be alive. Once he is resistant to CIA “Guidance” or such an F-up that he becomes a visible embarrassment: Then the question will become “What is his highest and best use?”… and that’s the moment when “Russian Assassination” narrative will have currency…

    Are we close to that point? Not followed the Prancing Z enough lately to know…

  52. E M Smith

    But your loss would be the gain for your country. 2 full terms? just think what he could achieve. He might even avert a civil war.

  53. EM Smith

    Grasshoppers? I hear KFC are busy cultivating crickets and hope to get them to the size of chickens soon. Fortunately they won’t even need to change their name as Kentucky Fried Crickets still bears the same initials. Yum! Finger hopping good!

  54. Simon Derricutt says:

    Sorry, put a comment on the old WOOD when I meant to put it here. See https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2022/06/23/w-o-o-d-23-june-2022/#comment-158551 for details. Basically, a new way of making energy.

  55. Simon Derricutt says:

    Tony – I had a Kentucky Fried Crickets Chicken once when I was in Swindon back in the ’80s. Tasted OK but I had the runs for 3 days afterwards. Never wanted to repeat the experience…. Maybe the bug version would be safer anyway.

  56. E.M.Smith says:


    Doesn’t really matter which W.O.O.D., other than sloth to load on older threads…

    per “Trots”: Usually a preparation error not a basic product error. So say some new high school “graduate” is hired as a cook AND server. Preps some raw chicken, does not wash hands, then fixes your box by picking up your biscuits by hand…


    1) Didn’t wash bugs off hands (likely salmonella) after handling raw chicken
    2) Picked up biscuits with hands instead of tongs
    3) Together #1 & #2 constitute lack of awareness of “Dirty Side” vs “Clean Side” protocols
    4) Management either assigning, or allowing, same person to cook raw and serve front of house

    Any one of those would prevent the problem. All of them are supposed to be done.

    In our restaurant I was taught about dirty side vs clean side protocol and never the twain shall meet. It did not matter at all why or what you did or did not touch: IF you were on the dirty side ( I usually was as I was busboy and dish washer) you MUST wash your hands before entering clean side (kitchen food prep and plating area / pickup window). Oh, and I cut up about 50 to 100 chickens a week (raw, so “dirty side”) and got to wash my hands a LOT. Just moving from washing dishes to cutting chickens had a wash hands step (despite having just pulled said hands out of the sink of soapy water…)

  57. YMMV says:

    climatereason: “I know it won’t be popular to say it here, but Trump is very divisive even amongst Republicans and he has little chance of attracting Democrats. So I suspect DeSantis would be more likely to win”

    We will keep hearing this. However. Why is Trump divisive? Because he is not a RINO? A RINO would go out of his way to not be divisive and would appease his opponents, and therefore only keep his seat warm. Because DEMOs fear him? Because he just might do something that they would not like.

    Who would be more likely to win? Do you mean in a fair vote? If that were possible, Trump would have won the last round. If DeSantis is chosen to be the candidate, he will be targeted by the woke mob too. And the swamp. They would even claim to find dirt on Mr. Clean.

  58. YMMV says:

    From a section of Mark Steyn’s website, by Laura Rosen Cohen:

    And I believe we are seeing a real battle between good and evil in front of our eyes. I keep thinking of Elie Weisel’s Night. I started feeling the dread darkness the day the “Stay at Home” orders were issued here in Ontario. And even now as some things and some places are starting to go back to a somewhat more normal state, I still cannot shake the feeling that “it” is still after us all and “they” have many, many more dastardly plans for us. I don’t actually care what that makes me sound like or who it offends.

    Earlier this week, Jewish mother-of-five, homeschooler, writer and general firebrand Bethany Mandel tweeted something about monkeypox that offended a lot of people (snore). And you know what she did? She didn’t cower and apologize for offending people. She didn’t offer to go to sensitivity training.

    She said this:

    “I understand many of you are bothered by one of my tweets yesterday and would like me to clarify. Here goes: I don’t care.”

    Then this:

    “I hope that’s clear enough.”

    Crystal, baby. Crystal clear. We need a whole lot more I don’t care, my friends, in order to beat back this beast. And if uppity Jewish mothers need to lead the charge, so be it. Bring it on.


  59. another ian says:


    Re KFC – that is known here as “a dose of the colonel”

  60. philjourdan says:

    @Tony –

    Point #1 – Trump is very divisive.

    Yes he is . He is separating the citizens form the subjects. Being a subject yourself, do you understand the difference? Yes or no?

    Point #2 – attracting democrats? Question? What democrats? The radical wing? Hell no! The black wing? Hell yes! The Hispanic wing? Double hell yes!

    He is not attracting democrats, He is attracting Americans. Learn that! Live it! and if you need more understanding , let me know!

    Now go back to worshipping The clown of Ukraine,

    And do not even dare to call me a Putin worshipper, lest you be delegated to the dustbin of fake news! I care less for Putin than I do for Biden. I just do not believe fake news. PERIOD.

    if we can agree on the last point, we can have a discussion. If not, faretheewell.

  61. philjourdan says:

    climatereason says:
    24 July 2022 at 11:22 am
    E M Smith

    But your loss would be the gain for your country. 2 full terms?

    Beats the insane Parliamentary system where a dictator takes over . Case in point, 1933 Germany and 2020 Canada. Or even the moron Bojo in your own country.

  62. another ian says:

    For Climatereason’s consideration

    “The Great MAGA King Donald J Trump Dominates TPUSA Poll For 2024 With 79%, DeSantis 19%,
    July 24, 2022 | Sundance | 190 Comments”


  63. another ian says:

    “Neil Oliver uses his weekly monologue to challenge the originating precept of the Great Reset, Build Back Better or New World Order, agenda. Get beyond the talking points and every policy from within the World Economic Forum instructions boils down to the quackery behind anti-humanism.”

    “Neil Oliver, The Build Back Better Agenda is Anti Human, We Need to Start Calling Them Out
    July 24, 2022 | Sundance | 176 Comments”


  64. another ian says:

    A covid “must read IMO”

    “the tipping point on vaccines and covid policy approaches
    more evidence that the tune is changing”


    Via http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2022/07/24/like-a-fart-i-sealed-in-a-pringles-can/

  65. another ian says:

    “The EU’s Green Experiment”

    The GWPF has just released a new report, written by John Constable describing the economic impact of their green policies, and it isn’t pretty. Some highlights:

    EU electricity prices to households are 80% above the rest of the G20, and EU industrial prices are 30% above the G20, natural gas prices to households are double the G20.
    The high prices are likely responsible for a reduction in electricity consumption. This is not good since the quality of life is closely correlated to energy consumption. Energy consumption is also the main determinant of health and environmental quality.
    Carbon dioxide abatement costs are many times higher than even the high-end estimates of the social cost of carbon, suggesting that the economic harm of the EU’s carbon mitigation policies is higher than the possible (or projected, if you prefer) cost of global warming.
    Employment in European wind and solar industries has fallen since 2008, subsidies failed to add jobs in Europe, as the equipment is now purchased from China. The only area of renewable job growth is in biofuels, basically cutting down trees and making ethanol from food. Biofuels are also responsible for a lot of Europe’s toxic air pollution.
    Has the EU learned anything from their failure and the suffering that they have imposed on their people? Nope, instead they appear to be doubling down on their bad policies.”

    More at


  66. another ian says:

    Another report – FWIW

    “They were promised there’d be no math.

    “We systematically researched the entire industry — who buys cars, where they’re built, how much they cost, what segments they’re in and what consumers do with them,” said Patrick Anderson, the founder of Michigan-based Anderson Economic Group (AEG). “Our research shows that a lot of Americans have been given a false impression about EVs.”  ”

    More and link at


  67. YMMV says:

    Wind Turbine Catches Fire From Lightning Strike – Cromwell, Texas

  68. Another Ian

    Thanks for your link. It appeared to be a poll of youth activists. That is mostly people who have not voted before and who by attending the conference demonstrate that they are far keener on politics than the vast majority of ordinary citizens. It is the ordinary citizens who decide elections

    I merely said at the outset that DeSantis appears a competent governor (as confirmed by E Smith) is of an age where he could muster 2 terms and finish clearing out the swamp and might attract a wide following.

  69. another ian says:

    Maybe have another guess?


  70. Another Ian

    15 to 26? So mostly people who have not voted before. Mostly activists so overall not the average voter who is neither 15 nor an activist.

    I merely said at the outset that DeSantis looks an interesting proposition and one likely to garner widespread support. As far as I can see it will be either DeSantis or Trump who will lead the Republicans in 2024

  71. H.R. says:

    @TonyB – I like reading your comments on Trump and the opinions you’ve formed because it tells me what the MSM is pushing.

    As a sceptic of CAGW, you hang out on blogs that offer views and information much more favorable to Trump than what you see and hear every day from the MSM. The same, in reverse, is true about my knowledge and opinions on Boris Johnson. I am nowhere near as tapped in as you are on his actions and UK reactions and to what extent Boris’ actions have bollixed things up or have been helpful.

    So as you knew up front, your view in your recent comment wasn’t going to be popular here. No problem from me. I think it’s important to see what is getting through from the MSM.

    Here’s an example. I suppose you might be aware that in the last campaign for President, Trump’s campaign rallies attracted 10s of thousands. I’m not aware of exceptions, though I’m sure there must be one, but every Trump campaign stop had to accommodate overflow crowds who couldn’t fit into the main venue. They always set up Jumbotron screens for those who came and stayed outside.

    In contrast, Biden’s few campaign appearances were limited to the Press and sometimes a select small group from the public. They attracted supporters by the 10s. After a bit, the Biden campaign stopped releasing the times and locations of their campaign events because more Trump supporters would show up than Biden supporters, often by quite a lot. It became quite comical.

    As best I know, all of that was never covered by the MSM. Very bad optics there. You may have caught some of that because you do hang out where the videos contrary to the MSM’s are shared. Then again, maybe not.

    Your observations of the TPUSA straw poll are correct. It is a poll of young Republicans and young conservatives (US version of conservative, i.e., Constitutionalists). It’s not a poll of likely US voters.

    What that poll is showing is that Trump has captured the support of the young people of the base and an indication that DeSantis should stay put and run on his own in the follow-on election.

    Here’s a link to an excellent article that will explain the ‘divisiveness’ of Trump. The dividing lines are not what you would think. The line is between those who support the longstanding political system because they benefit, and those who are excluded by it and fed up. Those excluded and fed-up and now Trump supporters include quite a few Democrats, and as pointed out by philj, an increasing number of the traditional Democrat base; Hispanics and blacks.


  72. HR

    thanks for your very good response. As a sceptic the MSM do not form my views although they can be useful to double check information. Yes, Trump is certainly very popular on most of the sceptical blogs and I knew the reaction I would get here.

    I do not like him as a person but think he was right on a number of big calls including Countries such as Germany and France not paying their way in Nato and Iran and their nuclear threat.

    As I won’t be voting for either of them I would just observe that DeSantis appears less divisive, appears to have good policies, is not easily intimidated (such as with demands to close down Florida because of Covid) and to threaten to remove the Magic Kingdoms astonishing tax perks also takes bravery.

    So in some ways he is a younger version of Trump, still with strong conservative views and probably capable of ‘training the swamp’ and as yet has not alienated a good percentage of those who might vote for him and could run for 2 terms.

  73. jim2 says:

    I’m torn between Trump and DeSantis. I believe Trump was a very good President as made evident by his actions. He was very US citizen oriented. That might not be considered a plus by a foreigner, but was best for the common man here.

    OTOH, there is a significant segment of Republicans that don’t like or want Trump as President. I would prefer to get rid of them rather than Trump, but they do have some power. I also fear Trump would energize Dimowit voters in an electorate that in many states is split down the middle between Dims and Pubs.

    Given all that, I’m leaning towards DeSantis.

  74. HR

    Re above.
    I meant ‘draining the swamp’ but its possibly a freudian slip as the Swamp is so large and diverse that its probably best to ‘train’ them in your ways!

  75. jim2

    I think you would have the ‘anyone’ but Trump faction again, so you are right in saying that Trumps candidature s likely to ‘energise’ the opposition or as we like to say over here, it would be a red rag to a bull. .

  76. YMMV says:

    CRT people believe the system is racist. I believe the system is broken, and enables corruption and absurd results. Part of that is that you never get to choose who you want, you only get to choose between the choices you are given. Another part of that is the role the MSM plays.

    Trump was cancelled long before the election. It wasn’t fair. Whether DeSantis could escape that (if he actually does run) is an open question. Maybe he is happy with where he is now. I wish him well.

    divisive: Hillary: “Basket of deplorables”
    I won’t research quotes from Obama and the rest.
    It all comes down to the division between US and THEM. Throughout history.

    This is interesting. Why did totalitarianism only arise in modern times?

    Mass Formation

  77. Terry Jackson says:

    It is time for a generational shift. All the “leaders” are over 70, and have arrived via persistence rather than competence. Eligibility for Social Security payments is not a required qualification for office.

    Trump caused a lot of people and institutions to reveal what they really stood for, and he commenced a raft of actions to address the concerns of the ordinary citizens. Good Job! Thanks. Now lets move on.

  78. The True Nolan says:

    @H.R. “In contrast, Biden’s few campaign appearances were limited to the Press and sometimes a select small group from the public. They attracted supporters by the 10s. ”

    I would add one note that (in my opinion) is equally important. A lot of Biden supporters were in the Chicken-Little camp of “Attend a rally? God forbid! I’ll catch THE COOF!!” That being the case, if Biden were REALLY popular with actual living individual voters, then surely we would have seen massive online attendance to his virtual rallies, right? And we didn’t. Even the best he could do for his oh-so-safe Internet rallies was in the low thousands, and who knows how many of those were bots.

    Conclusion: The election was stolen. The present US government is illegitimate and the people who brought it to us are criminals and traitors. A functional majority of our current politicians and military leaders are unwilling to remove them. Someone, PLEASE, show me where my reasoning is wrong. I really do not see any rational alternative.

  79. H.R. says:

    @TTN – I can’t argue with you.

  80. another ian says:

    “Earlier incarnations of puritanism ended when its proponents became laughing stock”


  81. another ian says:

    “Pretending Has Consequences – Western Media and Western Govt Continue Saying, Falsely, Global Food Crisis Caused by Russia
    July 25, 2022 | Sundance | 216 Comments”


  82. The True Nolan says:

    @YMMV: “CRT people believe the system is racist. I believe the system is broken, and enables corruption and absurd results.”

    I think you are right — but it may actually be worse! Since CRT first became public knowledge, I have always assumed that it is a scam, a fraud, a clear indicator that the system is, as you say, “broken and enables corruption”. A few nights ago, I literally woke up from a sound sleep about 3:00AM with a disturbing thought. What if CRT is NOT a scam? I am not saying that it may be correct; it clearly is not. But what if it is NOT a scam? What if the proponents of CRT are true believers who are doing the best they are capable of to invent a science of social analysis? Thinking is hard, clear thinking is even harder, and scientific thinking is hardest of all. Are the current crop of Credentialed Idiots capable of even understanding the difference between good science, poor science and anti-science? We know with some certainty that it has been at least two or three decades since there was any serious attempt at rigorous science in ANY of the social science studies. (Thank goodness engineering and physics are still — just barely! — holding out.) Could it be that the modern supporters of CRT are being honest when they spew out their fantasies of systemic, as-it-was-in-the-beginning-and-ever-shall-be White Racism? Could it be that CRT is simply the best “science” they are capable of creating? Could it be that the Credentialed Idiots really, truly, cross my heart, believe CRT?

    I find that even scarier than believing it is a gigantic scam. Brrrrr!

  83. philjourdan says:

    @Another Ian – Remember the original Terminator movie? What was the heroine’s roll? She was the mother of the man who taught the humans how to fight back! John Connor.

    Trumps is John Connor. Desantis is Kyle Reese.

  84. philjourdan says:

    @YMMV – re: flaming windmills

    Reminds me of the insane asylum scene in the Big Red One! Beautiful!

  85. philjourdan says:

    @Tony – Desantis is an excellent governor. He led the nation out of the tyranny of anti-science!

    But he is an acolyte of Trump. That is why he comes in second. Trump can only serve one more term (and we desperately need him). But it is one and done. If we stop the cheating.

    DeSantis is the heir apparent. And yes, he is learning very well from the savior of Citizens!

    Versus the subjugation of Subjects (notice how the 2 words are very similar? That is not by accident – I am a citizen. You are a subject.)

  86. philjourdan says:


    As a sceptic the MSM do not form my views although they can be useful to double check information.

    What sort of Gobbledy gook is that? How many times do you have to be lied to before you ignore the liars? So you like being lied to? When has the MSM (fake news) ever told you the truth?

    You are like many of the conservatives over here. They know they have been lied to countless times by the fake news (MSM) media. yet when there is something they like, they believe them! I am almost as old as EMS, but I can tell you that I have wisdom beyond the morons that are the younger generation of conservatives. I will NOT start believing fake news because it fits my world view. I will reject it and seek out the truth! That is what causes me to question my world view!~ Not something fake news says.

    The only way you can use Fake news (aka MSM) to check information is to understand they are lying to you! Anything less is stupid.

  87. philjourdan says:

    @jim2 – Re:

    OTOH, there is a significant segment of Republicans that don’t like or want Trump as President.

    Who told you that? TPUSA just said there is a sizable segment that want him. SO was it fake news polls?

    They are desperate. They are going to use any method they can to get rid of him. Why? Because is not ONE of them! That is the sole reason for their intense hatred (both on the left and right).

    We need him more now than at any time. If they destroy Trump, they destroy our republic. We will no longer have free elections. We will be subjects of a ruling class.

  88. philjourdan says:

    @TTN – I will provide a second second for the fact the election was stolen. Only idiots can deny the evidence. But they will.

  89. The True Nolan says:

    Just a heads up that the Russians have recently introduced a new submarine design, currently the world’s largest.

    Small personal story: The former world’s biggest subs were the USSR Typhoon class, with pressure hulls made of titanium. Back in the late 80s to early 90s my son and I had a small collection of titanium rock climbing gear. At the time, there were no standard commercially available manufacturers of titanium gear, so what was the source? Soviet ship builders would sneak pieces of titanium out of the boat yards, take them home, and make climbing gear from them. It was the perfect choice for smuggling! High value, low mass, small size, easy to move to a Western country for ultimate sale. I love free enterprise! All exchanges are voluntary for both price and product. Every interaction which takes place leaves both seller and buyer better off, or else they would not choose to do it! Love or hate the Russians, (and yes, there are reasons for both), we need to remember that they are NOT the Soviets. The Russians are the people who overthrew the most powerful communist government in the world.

  90. Ossqss says:

    Ok, I got my crystal ball out, maybe it was the magic fortune teller 8 ball, and here is what I saw.

    – DeSantis wins with Tulsi as VP. ~Talk about paradigm shift shaking foundations
    – Trump is appointed through the super majority in the house as speaker
    – Senate suddenly has logical thinking people in it after a major shift change.
    – Term limits are ultimately implemented

    Could this happen or am I just queuing up Aldo Nova “Fantasy”?

    Ironically, when I pulled up the referenced video, a DeSantis ad started playing! Fate or fatal? :-)

    Link- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPQgfaB3S1c

  91. Ossqss says:

    I could not stop my mouse.

  92. another ian says:

    Support from that well known “Moonbat” –

    “Farming – an indulgence we can’t afford”


    But then

    “There isn’t really a war on agriculture.

    It’s just a hostile takeover.”

    More at


  93. another ian says:


    “33 Dead & Sick Friends Since Our Wedding Only 8 Months Ago
    All 33 vaxxed. A “vaccine death & disease cluster.” ”


    Via SDA

  94. Phil

    “What sort of Gobbledy gook is that? How many times do you have to be lied to before you ignore the liars? So you like being lied to? When has the MSM (fake news) ever told you the truth?”

    Everything the MS writes is not fake, any more that everything the often whacky alternative media and conspiracy web sites writes is always the truth.

    I have had many decades of sorting facts from nonsense and generally I think I make a good job of it.

    This all started when I said that DeSantis would probably make a better shot at President than Trump as he is not the decisive character the latter is. As we saw, people came out to vote on the basis of ‘anyone but Trump.’ We had exactly that with our last General election when there was a big vote for the Tories on the basis of anyone but Corbyn. Corbyn has got a parallel with your Bernie Sanders.

    DeSantis seems to have good Conservative policies and would skip a generation. Currently I believe Biden and Pelosi are in their 80’s or very close to it with Mr Trump not very far behind.

  95. Simon Derricutt says:

    Tony – “We had exactly that with our last General election when there was a big vote for the Tories on the basis of anyone but Corbyn.” Yep, that wasn’t a vote _for_ Boris, but people saw him as the lesser of the two weevils. Keir Starmer will probably have the same verdict from the UK public, since he’s promising to double down on Net Zero and really f*** up the UK economics. Not that the Conservatives are much better (and the Lib-Dems are worse) but there’s maybe a hope that some sanity will be preserved.

    For the USA, I also didn’t actually like Trump, but I reckon his policies were generally better. Reduce taxes and regulations, and get more tax revenue because businesses were more profitable. The big problem was that the people he expected to be medical experts weren’t, and he didn’t have the in-depth knowledge to tell them they were wrong. Not many people do, though.

    Here in France, we have Macron, who is again the least-worst option of what was available to vote for. However, the French government can always be swayed by popular demand (portrayed in the YSM as the government “caving in” to demands when the French have their big strikes). Actually, that’s what governments should do, and they should not refuse to listen to what their people say. Then again, so many people believe in the CAGW “problem” and the way to cure it by reducing CO2 emissions, so sometimes the People ask for the wrong things. There probably isn’t an ideal system that will work well. It’s probably better to let the politics evolve slowly rather than try to break what’s there and replace it with some new system.

  96. another ian says:

    “Dear Canadian Agriculture”

    “As you are now well aware the Trudeau government has plans to drastically cut back the use of fertilizer in Canada. Yesterday Kate pointed out that this plan goes beyond any so called climate crisis. What they really want is your land.”


    That yesterday’s item here


  97. another ian says:

    Medicine under the microscope

    “How Many Frauds Do You Permit?”


  98. another ian says:

    “The Canadian Fertilizer Ban”

  99. E.M.Smith says:

    Just an FYI:

    I’ve got all the load of stuff that I’d hauled across the country (in 3 vehicles…) moved out of our “vacation rental” and into Our New Home (yes, escrow finally closed…)

    After damn near 1/2 a year of working the issue, I’ve got new digs, my “must go by car” and never stored stuff is all in the house, and I’ve got enough “temporary furniture” and “expedient solutions” to have the place be liveable.

    Now all that is left is to work on getting roughly 2400 cu. ft. of “stuff” moved from California to here.

    10 ft wide x 30 ft long x 8 foot high as an approximation of the storage unit. It is actually a bit less than that as the majority of the space is not packed to the roof, so maybe more like 1500 to 1800 cu. ft. Some of the 1.5 cu.ft. boxes were weighed, and came out about 45 lbs. Figure 30 lbs / cu.ft. I then make that between 45,000 lbs and 72,000 lbs. But again, not all the boxes are as dense as books and tool boxes, so more reasonable is about 22,500 lbs to 36,000 lbs.

    When putting things in storage, I ran several “wagon loads” via the station wagon, and then on the last great escape run, a 26′ U-Haul truck, basically filled. That tells me I need more than one of those truck loads to carry it all to here. Those trucks are very near the Max GVWR I can drive without a Class B license of 26,000 lbs. BUT… The truck has weight… take that out of the GROSS Vehicle Weight Rating, and they have only 10,000 lbs cargo weight. IF I were up at 72k, that would be 7 trips. Even at 45,000 lbs I’m in the 4 to 5 trip range. Yet my volume is way less than 4 truck loads (likely closer to 2). This tells me I’m weight limited not volume limited.

    I can get a Ford Van with a 4000 lb load capacity and 10,000 lb towing capacity for modest money. At 14,000 lbs / trip, that is about 2 to 3 trips, pretty much guaranteed (as long as I buy a long trailer and do the loading well)

    The alternative is a cheaper 20 ish foot truck that also has a 10,000 lb capacity. But I’m still up in the 3 to 4 trips range… It turns out that the weight of the big trucks matters and the limited cargo weight matters as a consequence.

    That decision / solution is the next step. Well, after the Honey Do list of the new move in. (Move this mirror to the other side of the closet door. I want that wall painted a different color. What? You bought a BLACK & WHITE checkered patterned shower curtain for the guest bath? What were you thinking! – [I was thinking I wanted a shower and it was $16 including liner and shower hooks…])

    So I’m going to be doing “Hauling planning” along with the Change Orders on the house, right up until I hit the road. Timing TBD, but soon.

    So give me a couple of hours of R&R after all this new house stuff, and I’ll be back working on postings Real Soon Now!

  100. E.M.Smith says:

    link: https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2022/07/20/w-o-o-d-20-july-2022/#comment-158589

    You are not wrong. We have a POTUSino selected by China, elected by Dominion Voting Machines (where China bought the company) and supported by a DNC where many of the top tier have had Chinese spies on their staff ( Bab’s Driver?) and get a load of $$$ out of China along with a media that loves Chinese Bribe-o and “market access”.

    We are in a 5th generational war, a “Long War” with a “Long march through the institutions” and have lost. As of now, the U.S. Citizen is at best an insurgent against a Chinese Satrap in D.C., but the vast majority are just Useful Idiots without a clue.

    The bulk of the world is now run by Pathological Liars with strong Sociopathic tendencies and with bribery, blackmail, corruption, and abuse of power as the preferred Modus Operandi. The EU, USA, UK, and China are all the major players in this game of Abuse The Citizen, but Canada, Australia, New Zealand are all in too. (Africa & South America have been there for a while).

    Only ones that seem to be effectively holding off this flood of evil? Russia, Hungary, maybe a bit of Brazil. After that, I’m not seeing much…

  101. p.g.sharrow says:

    @EMSmith; As to your driving problem, have you considered getting a Class1 driver to drive your load in a high cube U-Haul? That is the way a friend handled a Coast to Coast move a few years ago.

  102. H.R. says:

    E.M.: “This tells me I’m weight limited not volume limited.”

    Have you tried dieting? Atkins is pretty good. (Okay, triple winky here. 😉😉😉)

  103. another ian says:

    Sold down the river

    “Joe Manchin and Chuck Schumer Strike a Deal, $370 Billion for Green New Deal Energy Transition, Tax Increases to Pay for it and More IRS Agents
    July 27, 2022 | Sundance | 33 Comments”


  104. another ian says:

    “”I want to put drinking beer in the Olympics” ”

    Links to a recipe – and a band too

    “The group were contacted by the International Olympic Committee in August 2016 over their 2008 song “The Beer Olympics”. The IOC claimed trademark rights over the word Olympics stating that Hotpots’ use of the word was a breach of their trademark. To avoid further problems, the band subsequently retitled the song “The Beer International Non-Profit, Non-Governmental Sporting Quad Yearly Event”. ”

    “That’s quintessentially British working-class humor, that is – cocking a snook at authority on every conceivable occasion!”


  105. another ian says:

    More Canada

    “Dr Francis Christian was a Clinical Professor of Surgery at the U of Sask. in Saskatoon until he was fired for strongly speaking out over vaccines for children. Now he’s suing. Viva and Barnes had him and his lawyer on to discuss everything Covid related. This is not only a must watch but a must SHARE, especially to those in your life that have children or grandchildren. This is a serious subject. People need to go to JAIL.


    Via SDA

  106. E.M.Smith says:


    I’ve thought of having commercial movers move the stuff… but it is costly.

    The idea of a Class 1 driver and Rent-A-Rig is interesting… but California has made it illegal to operate a commercial truck with Diesel engine older than 2010, so now a thin market for Big Rigs (so prices high). Then, for “Independent Operators”: California just made something like 70K of them illegal too (must be employee of company… not contractor). Driving them out of State too.

    Frankly, part of what sent me down the DIY path was the sudden vanishing of the Independent Trucker option. Saw a lot of rigs for sale with pre-2010 engines all with the footnote that they had to be taken out of State to get registered. (Oh, and before anyone suggests it: You are forbidden to own a Commercial Truck out of State and drive it INTO California unless you meet the California law / rules – so you can’t just hit up the guy who moved to Nevada with his truck and hire him…)

    There is ONE little exemption: IFF YOU own the truck, and are hauling only Your Stuff, then you can cross the State Line. So it pretty much has to be me driving. OR paying up royally high rates to get one of the few remaining Commercial truckers in California to haul for me.

    But yeah, I’d be happy to toss $10k or so at someone to just do it for me.


    Yes, I’ve tried dieting. Presently on the Beer Diet… but while it is helping the disposition it hasn’t done much for the weight… I’m planning on a modification of the Atkins / Paleo Diet via adding it to the Beer Diet. So “Meat & Beer”… Once I buy a new BBQ ;-)

  107. E.M.Smith says:

    I have been unable to get “whatfinger” to load for a week or 2 now.

    Does anyone know if they are down or banned or what?

  108. David A says:

    E.M your average weight per cu foot may be high.
    Try This.. http://www.movingtoolsinc.com/Tools/household-furniture-dimensional-weight-calculator.aspx

    My view is Penske Trucks are newer, better, larger 26 boxes, yet still 10 k capacity
    Some 26’ U hauls include the cab over int the footage and are not 8’ wide, and closer to 7’ high.

    I love to take the opportunity to move to simplify, always a mind freeing experience for me. ( Yet I am sure you have done this ) I feel certain two trips should be max.

  109. David A says:

    State rules for such trucks

    Overweight may violate any insurance ?

  110. H.R. says:

    @E.M. – Act now! Diesel is down a bit, probably to take the heat off the elections, so it will only cost an arm, a leg, and just the left nut – not the good one – in fuel.

  111. jim2 says:

    The Dimowits have been silent about our economic pain and now you can’t turn on the TV without one of them telling us they will save us. Unfortunately, they have no intention of doing that as it would involve the promotion of fossil fuels.

  112. another ian says:


    Obvioiusly uou got out just in time!

    “A California city wanted less drag racing on this popular street, so they painted zig-zagging traffic lines on it. It didn’t quite turn out as expected.”


    Via SDA

  113. Ossqss says:

    I wonder how much it is to drive a 40′ shipping container across country.

  114. philjourdan says:

    @TTN – Re: Biggest submarine

    Kind of like the loudest whisper. There is a reason you do not build BIG submarines. The bigger they are, the easier they are to detect.

    You build BIG ACs. Everything else is small. Ever wonder why Cruisers and even Destroyers have disappeared? Because smaller ships can do that job and make smaller targets. Battleships were awesome! And also big targets.

    I am not afraid of the Russian Navy. I am afraid of the Chinese Navy. Eventually they will work the kinks out and then we are toast.

  115. philjourdan says:

    @Tony – BS! Fake news is fake news! SO you like being lied to? When was the last time they actually told you the truth? Jesus Man! How many times to you have to be lied to before you get it? Or are you one of the clowns what will never get it?

    What is the difference between a conspiracy theory and a fact? 6 months.

    Do not BS me. Or think that throwing crap at the screen will make points.

  116. philjourdan says:

    @EMS – re- Whatfinger

    Clear your cookies and cache. I Have to regularly

  117. H.R. says:

    I’m still waiting for truckers to stop delivering to DC and the surrounding areas.

    No need to show up to protest policies. Better just not to show up at all.

  118. p.g.sharrow says:

    @TTN – Re: Biggest submarine:
    You need to understand Russian psychology. Russian males have a big inferiority complex. to compensate they have to have bragging rights to the “BIGGEST, Toughest, Fastest, Loudest, most Expensive, What ever is being compared . They are braggarts of the first order. Which is why Trump got along with Putin. Trump was a renowned Big Man and he let Putin have his brags.
    When compared to America They know that they are second rate so they compensate with brags and threats about just how BAD they are. After all it was they that won the Great Patriotic War. The West was only along for the ride. .

  119. another ian says:

    A song the New York Times didn’t include in its cannibalism article

    “Stanley Holloway – Sweeney Todd The Barber”

  120. Rienk says:

    I just tried whatfinger and for me it was blocked in pihole.

  121. The True Nolan says:

    @philjourdan: re “the loudest whisper”

    I am reminded of the circus sideshow which exhibited “The World’s Tallest Midget!!” Of course it was just a normal sized man, but supposedly they still sold tickets. And who knows, maybe in some deep philosophical sense the guy REALLY WAS the world’s tallest midget, at least to the ticket holders.

    I am looking at my wife as I type this. She is pushing 70, her cheeks are starting to sag, her hair has gone completely white, and her knees wobble when she walks. And yet… When I see her she is as lovely now as she was the day I met her.

    Loudest whisper? Tallest Midget? Loveliest septuagenarian? We see amazing things every day of our lives. How wonderful!

  122. another ian says:

    “How to build a wood gasifier, for those interested in such things.


    Author of article is 15 yrs old. He does a very good job of it.”

    Via Jo Nova

  123. another ian says:

    “What The Future Holds for Our Climate Leaders”

    “The single most astounding universal failure of all jurisdictions pursuing Net Zero is the failure to pursue any sort of working prototype or demonstration project of a Net Zero electricity system before committing the entire jurisdiction to the project on the basis of a blank check to be paid by the taxpayers and ratepayers. ”

    More at


  124. philjourdan says:

    @p.g.sharrow – ever see the movie “Patton”? How about the “Battle of the Bulge”? Ever read the “History of WWII”?

    In all of those, the West won the war and Russia played second fiddle. It works both ways. Russia beat Germany with sheer numbers! Their infantry, tanks and artillary was second rate to Germany’s but they had a lot more of it. Kursk? The greatest tank battle ever? Russia won due to sheer numbers. Germany had the more advanced machines, Russia had more machines.

    Russia has a right to brag. Before D-Day, they were already driving the Germans back. Sheer numbers. When you can expend 20 million causalities, that says a lot to an opponent.

    Best to respect Russia. You do not have to like them, but not respecting what they can do has been a serious mistake for many empires.

  125. another ian says:

    Re Biden “redefinitions”

    “Don’t raise the bridge – lower the river!”



    “No, we can’t save the planet – it’ll do that on its own”

    Links to a salty George Carlin


  126. philjourdan says:

    @TTN – Re: Largest Midget

    As for your wife, I think you saved your marriage with the last line! Yes, even I bow to the fairer sex! But I do play them off against each other! She has 4 sisters (just like me). So when I compliment one of them on their choice of dinner, she comes home and makes me her version and of course (really! Not being political) it is better! So I win! I ingratiate myself to her family, and get an excellent meal in return!

    The tallest midget!

  127. E.M.Smith says:

    @David A:

    I have a LOT of higher density boxes (many of them books) and very little low density furniture (no beds and only a couple of dressers). I’ll be measuring the weight in any case to make sure I’m not “surprised” on the first run.

    @Per Whatfinger, Rienk, PhilJourdan:

    It isn’t PiHole as I’m not running one right now. It isn’t cookies or such as I logged in as “Guest” and using a pristine state got the same failure to connect.

    So I ask again: Can anyone GET TO whatfinger.com? If just one person succeedes then I know they are there and I can narrow the search space a lot. If nobody can get there, it isn’t me…

  128. E.M.Smith says:

    OK, got a friend and the spouse to both try it and they reached Whatfinger.com using a cell phone and a Macbook. I’m presently connected via a 2nd Chromebook (ASUS) and reached it.

    So it is something about that particular (HP) other Chromebook (though not a particular login on it as “guest” acts the same.)

  129. another ian says:


    Re “@p.g.sharrow – ever see the movie “Patton”?”

    You’ll pick up a few more if you read Clarkson’s books.


    I’ve had to think about phrasing for this –

    If you put that up outside USA don’t be suprised at a response like

    “So the bloody Yanks have been beaten!”

    Just saying

  130. YMMV says:

    whatfinger.com — no problem.
    One of their links went to Tucker on Twitter: Schlong Covid

  131. E.M.Smith says:

    Having cleared cookies and cache and this laptop still doesn’t reach Whatfinger, but everything else in the house does (and DNS servers are the same and both using IPv4 and… and no, rebooting doesn’t fix it either…) the failure is clearly isolated to this particular Chromebook. And debugging it is going to be slow and boring…

    So I’m going to drop the issue of Whatfinger.com for now (might post a “what it was” IF I ever figure it out).

  132. YMMV says:

    Another link from whatfinger: C-Span becomes a Pelosi parody site.
    [video src="https://redstatenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/flqVrHjUXX8aAisy.mp4-tag12.mp4" /]

  133. another ian says:

    Via Jo Nova

  134. another ian says:


    Jo Nova uses WordPress (self hosted) and Askimet and is having a problem with contributors being put in “moderation purgatory” (me included). Seems this feature was acquired after an update as mentioned.

    Discussion starts here


    Can anyone shed some light on what might be happening?


  135. E.M.Smith says:

    @another ian;

    I’ve often stated my speculation about how WordPress / Askimet work. It often results in folks ending up in a “new bucket” until someone un-does whatever did it.

    My (very limited) understanding is this:

    1) A site / blog operator can set specific key word filters if they like. While I have very few, I have some. So, for example, The F- Word puts a comment directly in the trash. That’s one I set up. Others can set up other key words to process pairs as they like it on their blog. Site operator also can set a limit on how many links in a posting count as probably SPAM. 4 is the default, I’ve raised mine to something like 10.

    2) You have a couple of built in comment handling methods. Allow all. Moderate all. Or “once approved a given poster can then comment freely without moderation”. I use the last one.

    3) The “once approved” process I use suffers from how WordPress handles “identity”. It is a combination of Email Address & IP Address & Name. Misspell any one of them and you go back to moderation until “approved” for that misspelling too. Use a VPN, post from a public coffee shop WiFi, have your home router reboot and get a new IP address? Back to moderation… ANYTHING that changes your IP address, results in a new visit to “Moderation”.

    4) Akimet uses a process I’ve characterized as “Voted off the island”. In addition to things like using a lot of known SPAM links and such, IF a site Moderator flags your comment as SPAM, that propagates to other sites. Given that folks who like to “Poke The Bear” will annoy Systems Admins / Moderators at various sites, they will accumulate “SPAM” votes. This seems to hit conservative voices most… To the extent Others (like me) mark them as “Not SPAM” the count shifts back to “OK, let them through”. i have no idea how effective either process is; but I suspect that folks who post a lot of comments and especially ones contrary to the dominate culture / bias of moderators are more likely to be “voted off the island” a lot.

    5) Site operators (i.e. me) have no control over Askimet and no insight into how it works. It’s just a Black Box. Everything I’ve said about it is speculation based on external observation.

    That’s pretty much all I know about it, and I’d not heard of “Moderation Jail” or “Moderation Purgatory” until now.

  136. another ian says:

    Latest Pointman



  137. another ian says:

    E.M. Thanks on WordPress – will relay

  138. another ian says:


    “‘Greenhouse Gas Effect Does Not Exist,’ Says Swiss Physicist


  139. another ian says:

    “Cometh the Horsemen: Pandemic, Famine, War”

    Via SDA

  140. Simon Derricutt says:

    another ian – it’s maybe a bit silly to deny that the greenhouse effect doesn’t exist when you can measure the power in the various spectral bands from the radiative gases in the atmosphere. That downwelling radiation exists. The real question is whether the net effect of it is worth worrying about, given the number of equilibrium situations that exist in the atmosphere and the climate system. It’s well-known that if you try to disturb a stable equilibrium, then it will move to reduce the effect of that disturbance, though disturbing an unstable equilibrium makes it swing further until it reaches a stable configuration. Not that our atmosphere is actually in an equilibrium situation as such, but always moving towards one.

    Calculations using Hitran show that with a totally cloud-free Earth, the average ground temperature would increase by around 1°C for each doubling of CO2. However, the real-life clouds provide negative feedback and thus we still don’t know what actual effect that increase in CO2 has for the real world. Presumably somewhat less than 1°C, but in any case not something we should really worry about. I moved about 7° latitude South of where I used to live, giving me on average temperatures around 5°C warmer. It didn’t kill me…. In fact, the warmer (and sunnier!) weather is pretty nice, and you’d wonder why, if warm and sunny is so bad, why people from the UK go on holiday to such places as well as import lettuce and tomatoes (among other foods) grown there.

    Given the various advances in physics I’ve been making people aware of, I’m not that worried about energy in future. Nice thing about physics is that it doesn’t matter whether you believe in it, if something works it works. You can’t say “that’s against the law, so it can’t work” when it’s sitting there delivering energy, or when a spacecraft lifts off without a load of noise and long flames.

  141. jim2 says:

    With regards to the https://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/0311/0311104.pdf article, it occurred to me there is a centuries old device that creates small amounts of power in a uniform thermal bath: the thermocouple. I can’t determine from that Ag-O-Cs paper if they actually proved the device described violates the 2lotd, but a thermolcouple is a simpler device and might be easier to analyze. I assume the thermocouple, if present in an isolated bit of air, must cool the air in order to create energy. That energy will be dissipated in the measuring instrument, so there is a chance that total entropy is increased.

  142. cdquarles says:

    Catch, Simon, is that electro-magnetic radiation is *not* heat. It is light. Heat is internal kinetic energy and only the internal kinetic energy. Conversion does not have to be lossy such that absorbing radiation must increase the internal kinetic energy (it can go into ‘phase’ changes or some other bucket within the total energy), nor does emitting radiation must decrease it. I would agree that the bulk of the “greenhouse” phenomenon is mass. An absorber, after all, is an emitter under different conditions; and that conflating thermodynamic temperatures with color/brightness temperatures is one of the main errors with the “greenhouse gas” theory. IR activity doesn’t necessarily mean what they think nor does the atmosphere have to act as an analogy to an impervious roof (to gas exchange).

  143. cdquarles says:

    Also, there is always incoming and outgoing radiation. Day and night; otherwise, astronomy wouldn’t be possible, in my opinion. Sure, the relative power is different at differing times of day. Then, how well do our analogies work, in reality, with the very small and/or very fast; and can we or how much can we disregard the effects of the measurement apparatus, too.

  144. Ossqss says:

    I had to use the link via ZH to get to read this in full, with no signing up. Hopefully it works for others. Putting the pieces together on the big picture.


  145. Ossqss says:

    @EM, I am not familiar with the Chromebook OS, but can you install the Whatfinger site as an app? I do that with some sites in Edge to function better.

  146. rhoda klapp says:

    I’ve asked repeatedly on climate sites for a measurement in the lab of CO2 absorbing actual heat. Apparently they’ve never done the experiment. If the spectroscopic absorption equals thermal effects, it should be easy to show. Similarly, they have never measured it outdoors either. Why wouldn’t this be a step in the proof, rather than the jump from hitran to global temp with scarcely any intermediate steps, each one to be shown happening, not intuited.

  147. jim2 says:

    rhoda – the IR spectrometer is an old and established method to measure CO2 concentrations.


  148. jim2 says:

    RE: IR. The IR spectrometer measures the amount of infrared radiation absorbed by the CO2. So it has been known for a long time that CO2 absorbs, and emits, IR photons.

  149. rhoda klapp says:

    Jim2, missing the point, which is if there is a temperature change rather than a redistribution of light, where is the experimental demonstration of that in the lab and in the wild. By which I mean a demonstrated difference between a piece of air with a given concentration of CO2 and another with twice as much? Or show me where the experiment was done, if I’ve missed it.

    (Radiation isn’t temperature. The GHG theory makes a it of a leap of faith there. But if I’m wrong, it shouldn’t be too hard to prove it.)

  150. cdquarles says:

    Some years ago that was tried and shown on Watts Up With That. As I recall, that demonstration didn’t really show what they tried to say it showed. That said, there have been demostrations, using specially tuned lasers, to force a sample of already very cold matter to very near absolute zero (no net internal kinetic energy, which doesn’t mean no energy).

  151. Terry Jackson says:

    @ Rhoda
    “In 2016, Allmendinger published a paper entitled “The thermal behavior of gases under the influence of infrared radiation” in the International Journal of Physical Sciences. Here Allmendinger addressed the conventional wisdom that “any IR-activity of molecules or atoms requires a shift of the electric dipole moment, so that two-atomic homo-nuclear molecules (like O2 or N2) are always IR-active.”

    Allmendinger insisted this proposition “must be regarded as a theorem and not as a principal natural law” because “numerous examples of nonpolar substances are known where an interaction with electromagnetic radiation occurs, e.g., at halogens where even colored and thus visible light is absorbed.”

    What Allmendinger found surprising was physical scientists had relied almost entirely on spectrographic analysis to measure the molecular absorption of IR energy by gases.

    He stressed that “apparently no thermal measurements have been made of gases in the presence of IR-radiation, particularly of sunlight,” even though the primary climate concern with greenhouse gases involves the thermal absorption of IR energy.”

    Excerpt from:

    I think this is the question you are asking.

  152. jim2 says:

    Rhoda – you asked if CO2 could absorb heat as IR radiation – yes, it can. You then posited a different question/scenario. Adding CO2 at temperature x to a body of air at temperature x isn’t going to make the combination hotter than the two separate components, I’m pretty sure. You many need to restate your scenario more precisely.

  153. The True Nolan says:

    What follows is my opinion based on some years of wrangling with the CAGW crowd and finally deciding that they could never be convinced by mere facts, and moving on to other more interesting subjects. That being the case, I am running on memory and have not done anything more than pulling up old bookmarks. Feel free to disagree.

    Hey Rhoda! You ask a perfectly good question, one that you would think must have been answered a hundred years ago. Turns out that people have tried multiple times to take a bit of air (with or without added CO2), put it in a box and try to determine whether it makes a difference whether or not infrared is absorbed, or transmitted, or blocked, or whatever.
    Here is the Woods 1909 experiment:
    And the Watts Up With That repeat of Al Gore’s version:
    and Dr. Spencer’s repeat:

    I am sure there are others out there. It seems like it would be pretty straightforward, huh? Looks like even now, some folk say yes, some say no. One of the big problems is that the presence of water vapor in the atmosphere almost completely overwhelms anything the CO2 does, because their IR lines overlap so much and water is so much more common. And also, every experiment has to consider how it will deal with other complicated processes like convection.

    Here is a thought experiment I like to consider. Suppose that every doubling of CO2 does, ALL BY ITSELF AND DISCOUNTING THE EFFECTS OF ANY OTHER GAS OR ANY WEIRD AND HYPOTHETICAL FEEDBACK MECHANISMS, raise global temps by 1C. (Most estimates I have seen say somewhere between 0.1C and maybe 1.5C.) In other words, raise the CO2 from 250ppm to 500ppm and you get an extra 1C. Simple, so fa, and that seems to be about right based on IR measurements of pure CO2 in laboratory conditions. Now suppose that there is in fact some OTHER gas in the atmosphere which has EXACTLY the same IR lines as CO2. Call it “FauxCO2”. And suppose that the FauxCO2 is ALREADY present in the atmosphere at 10,000ppm. When you add that 250ppm of extra CO2, the temperature will NOT increase by 1C — because the FauxCO2 works exactly like CO2. In effect instead of doubling CO2 from 250ppm to 500ppm, all you have effectively done (as least as far as the radiative properties of CO2 go) is to raise CO2 from 10,250 to 10,500, a change of not quite 2.5% for a whopping temperature increase of 0.025C.

    OK, I know that H2O is not EXACTLY the same IR lines as CO2, but it is pretty dang close, and all that H2O absolutely SWAMPS any effect that CO2 has. That figure of a 1C rise from doubling CO2 is based on completely discounting the overlapping effect of other gases. It may very well be correct for pure samples but in the real world the effect is negligible because other gases are already messing around with the IR. If it WEREN’T negligible we would have a much better track record of scientists being able to measure it in simple experimental setups. But we don’t.

  154. Ossqss says:


    The last 2 days I went through a medical challenge like I have never experienced.

    I have had many brakes, burns, pulled muscles, teeth, and pretty much everything out there.

    I figured out I experienced BPPV the last couple days and I would tell, it sucked. This will tell ya about it.


    You can tend to any exposed wound, but this was different.

    Just a heads up, from an experience I don’t want to ever go through again. It Sucked!

  155. another ian says:

    “Fake Experts and Phoney Scientific Methods”


    Links to a video

  156. Power Grab says:

    @ p.g.sharrow:

    That characteristic of the Russians to brag all the time about having the biggest/best/first, etc. makes me think of the character Pavel Chekov in the original Star Trek series. I noticed he always was making claims like that.

  157. YMMV says:

    “H2O absolutely SWAMPS any effect that CO2 has”

    The big problem with “Climate Change” is that there is so much fixation on CO2, to the exclusion of everything else, including proof. Then it gets worse. Now everybody is panicked over N2O, so bans and restrictions on fertilizer use. Netherlands, Canada, Ireland. But first, Sri Lanka.


  158. rhoda klapp says:

    I don’t think it unreasonable to ask for an experiment to confirm thermalization of the (known, acknowledged) spectroscopic effects. Indeed, an experiment is required by proper scientific practice. Don’t make me quote Feymann. The absence of such an experiment makes me suspicious.

    (I’ve had BPPV, a mild case. Any medical condition which takes four words is not to be easily dismissed. I did my own Eppley maneuver to fix it, and it seemed to work.)

  159. AC Osborn says:

    jim2 says: 30 July 2022 at 6:59 pm
    “RE: IR. The IR spectrometer measures the amount of infrared radiation absorbed by the CO2. So it has been known for a long time that CO2 absorbs, and emits, IR photons.”

    Jim, in which case as it is almost an instantaneous process nothing much actually happens regarding heat storage. In fact far more transfers take place due to slightly faster molecular collisions.
    Now consider the conversion and transfer of Kinetic energy from CO2 molecules colliding with Oxygen and Nitrogen which are just as hot which are NOT emitting IR. That conversion to and emitting of IR by the CO2 molecule takes the energy from the atmosphere and emits some of it to space thus cooling the atmosphere.
    So which is the “greenhouse gas” the one that can cool the atmosphere by IR emmissions or the 2 that can’t?

  160. Simon Derricutt says:

    CDQ – both heat and light are kinetic energy, just carried by particles or photons. We measure temperature, though, by the translational average energy alone, and can’t see the other internal modes of the molecules except by looking at the spectral absorptions/emissions or the specific heat capacities.

    Thus if there’s an IR photon, if it gets absorbed rather than reflected then the energy goes into the total thermal energy of whatever absorbs it. We may or may not measure a temperature difference as a result, depending on whether the energy goes into those energy-stores that change the measured temperature (translational degrees of freedom) or those that don’t (vibrational or rotational degrees of freedom, spin-wave degrees of freedom).

    Looking at the temperature records, looks like things started coming out of the Little Ice Age somewhere 1700-1750, long before CO2 started significantly increasing. That temperature curve looks to me like a steady rise with a cyclic wave of around 60 years on top, with about the same peak rate of rise each time. Given the basic measurement uncertainty, which cannot be removed by statistical tricks even though many people think that they can be (and thus give measurements to 0.01°C which is ridiculous), the problems of measurement stations in locations where the environment has changed leading to higher local temperatures (UHI), and the change of sensor-type leading to a shorter integration-time, it looks to me that the maximum heating we could assign to extra CO2 would be around the 0.25°C mark, with probably a minimum of 0°C. Most of the heating is natural, and part of the recovery from the Little Ice Age (where we also don’t know why that happened), and is welcome anyway. I don’t see the downside of having longer growing seasons or the CO2-fertilisation of plant growth, and a general reduction in the strength of storms.

    With the daily change of energy coming in, as well as the seasonal changes, the equilibria are constantly being disturbed and are heading towards a new equilibrium but never getting there. There’s thus a philosophical problem in treating the Earth system as being in equilibrium – might make the maths easier, but it’s not justifiable. Both the power incoming and the power outgoing are constantly changing, and the albedo is changed by plants as well as human activity. Though we can measure some of this and get a reasonable stab at an average value, there’s bound to be a significant error. However, it does look as if there’s been a surprising amount of stability overall, looking at the longer-term scale (centuries), with only a few percent variation when we use the absolute temperature scale. That massive 1.5°C people are talking about is only around 0.5% in absolute temperature, which is pretty tight regulation.

    Maybe the big questions are whether we can change the average temperature of our planet by increasing or reducing the CO2 in the atmosphere (and by exactly how much), and whether the current average temperature is higher or lower than the optimum for human life. Looking back in history it seems human civilisations improved while it was hotter than now, and failed when it was cooler than now. Despite the spectroscopical data, it looks like the actual change in the Earth’s temperature is only slightly dependent on the CO2 concentration (if at all), and that temperature changes in the past led the changes in CO2 concentration, implying that it was the temperature change that caused the CO2 change. If we don’t know what caused the temperature change, we can’t affect it except accidentally. Though there might be a slight positive feedback involved with CO2 and temperature, the time when the CO2 level was up to 6000ppm was obviously good for life and not that much hotter than today. I’m not sure we can trust the proxies for that long ago as regards temperatures and CO2 levels that precisely, given that proxies depend on “all else being equal”, but it’s the best we’ve got at the moment.

    Rhoda – the Hitran calculations are probably pretty reliable as regards what proportion of energy will be in what direction in the various spectral bands. AFAIK they match measurements using bolometers pointing in the relevant direction. But – put more energy into the system, and the heat-engine that’s our atmosphere runs a bit faster to remove it. Thus there’s a negative feedback built-in, and the extra energy probably won’t result in any significantly higher temperatures. That there is a significant negative feedback is evidenced by the spectacular stability of the average temperatures, given that the actual solar input power varies with our distance from the Sun and the Sun’s output also has periodic changes. The Sun itself orbits around the barycentre of the solar system, depending largely on the positions of Jupiter and Saturn, and at times that barycentre is outside the Sun, so apart from the 3% or so eccentricity of the Earth’s orbit around that barycentre, the Sun can be closer or further away from us.

    The Hitran calculations (as done by David Roe, anyway) do take into account the water-vapour existing alongside the CO2, but IIRC don’t take into account the variability of that water vapour which isn’t “well-mixed”. Just takes average values, and also specifies “no clouds”. The lack of cloud effects is the elephant in the room here, since the experimental error on that dwarfs any CO2 effects.

    Net result, for me at least, is that I don’t see a significant causal relationship between CO2 and World Average Temperature in either the actual data or the theory, and if there is any such relationship it’s both small and beneficial (more people die of cold than heat, so a bit more average warmth would result in fewer deaths). There’s also the problem that over history the climate in various places has changed – droughts, floods, monsoon changes, whatever. We find ancient abandoned cities in places that have been arid for at least a millennium. Around 5000 years ago the Sahara was a green savannah with a lot of life and monsoon rains. Climate change isn’t new, and wasn’t caused by people in the past.

    If the climate where you are changes, you have a choice of adapting to it or moving somewhere better – it’s what’s happened before. These days, though, we have the technology to adapt far better than we did a few hundred years ago. Not only that, but new stuff is being invented that will make the adaption even easier.

  161. David A says:

    Ossqss, my wife deals with that, along with Fibromyalgia.

    The physics of the global T effects of CO2 as a GHG was a debate I never entered, and for good reason. We do not know. On earth it appears very complicated with so many aspects of the physics very poorly understood – total “Climate Sensitivity ” estimates are all over the board. So much is poorly understood, cloud formation, Ozone, variable cloud feedback, ocean cycles, solar flux, on and on. It appeared clear to me that additional energy going into atmospheric heating would accelerate the hydrologic cycle, and that takes lots of “work” or energy that is not heat to accelerate.

    As negative feedback tends to dominate,I trusted honest observations, and those show warming that is about 1/3rd of projections, They also show tremendous global benefits to additional CO2 And the harm projection fail miserably to manifest. All the corruption in the CAGW science and data manipulation, and the refusal to engage in debate, just adds to reasonable CAGW skepticism.

  162. jim2 says:

    @ Ossqss says: 31 July 2022 at 2:56 am
    I’ve been dealing with this for years. There are exercises that can fix it, although for me it happens again from time to time. Here is the routine I use. Usually repeat it three times per session, and 2 sessions tends to fix it. Just note the results are not instantaneous. It takes about a day to settle down.


  163. cdquarles says:

    Ah, I see, Simon. I do not consider light as kinetic energy (for how can something said to be massless do it, though I may need to look at relativistic corrections for photons). Of course, I may be wrong; and at the individual atom/molecule level, absorption or emission of a single photon of light has no ‘area under the curve’, so doesn’t have to induce an energy change in either direction. On the other hand, considering a ‘large’ collection, there will be varying amounts of energy each constituent holds. Given that we can’t track that finely, we use a summary statement, which can only be an approximation.

  164. rhoda klapp says:

    Jim2, I can’t see how the experimental setup at your link is the same as the atmosphere conditions they purport to emulate. The heater is inside the balloon. So it heats at least partially and probably mostly by convection and conduction. So you have a thermal source. Different pressures and specific heat too. The experiment I want to see has a thermal result from a purely IR input. Not the same. And it was done in 2020? What were they using as experimental evidence up till then? I can’t help wondering whether they didn’t try a purely radiative input and fail to get the result they wanted.

  165. jim2 says:

    rhoda – well, it’s kind of hard to simulate a 10 mile high atmosphere in the lab. Just sayin’. Also, the Sun isn’t a purely thermal source. Of course CO2 has a specific heat different from air, we are stuck with that. As far as I can tell, this is a thermal-based experiment. Note also a hot heating element does have an “element” of IR. Here is a graph of the spectrum at 50C (~ 300K).

    Click to access thermal.pdf

    Could you describe in detail the type of equipment set up that could be used in a lab that would satisfy your question? You would have to prescribe every detail of the setup and it has to include everything needed, what is where, what is connected to what, and what measuring instruments are used and how. I just feel your demands at this point aren’t well defined.

  166. rhoda klapp says:

    Not my hypothesis, not my subject, I couldn’t design the experiment. However, the people who support the hypothesis should have done it themselves as a required part of scientific practice. They sould not need to be asked.

    However, we do have access to the atmosphere. We ought to be able to observe the process taking place. The climate crowd seem (to sceptical old me) to jump straight from radiative effects to global temperature. I think we all know it’s more complicated than that, possibly more than we are able to figure out.

    Willis Eschenbach has done a number of articles at Wattsupwiththat describing various satellite observations of outgoing radiation and temperature. The signal of CO2 = warming isn’t very clear.

  167. jim2 says:

    I think the experiments by Spenser and others may have been too small. I’ve got a lot of irons in the fire, so won’t be doing this, but … I would use a 8 or 10 foot PVC pipe, 4 or 6 inches in diameter, upright. The top would be sealed with thin window glass. The bottom would be sealed with a black iron plate, maybe 1/4 inch thick, with a couple of thermocouples attached to the back. Under the plate would be 3 or 4 inches of foam insulation. A light source of some sort would be placed a few inches from the top – a 100 – 500 W incandescent bulb might do. Valves mounted to the pipe would be used to purge the tube. I think I would use pure, dry nitrogen as the control. Turn on the lamp and let the metal plate temperature come to equilibrium. Record that temperature. Then purge the tube with different mixtures of nitrogen and CO2. Since the atmospheric column is so high, I think concentrations of CO2 higher than that in the atmosphere would have to be used. Try CO2:nitrogen ratios of 1:9, 1:4, 1:2, 4:1 perhaps. Record the equilibrium temperature of each mixture. See what happens.

  168. E.M.Smith says:

    I’ve done many articles on CO2, Radiative and other transfers, etc. My conclusions in a nutshell are:

    CO2 radiates to space in the upper atmosphere. In the lower atmosphere, there’s so much air density and water vapor that radiative transfer is irrelevant (otherwise we would not have a troposphere). The Troposphere exists as a CONVECTIVE heat removal system precisely because radiative heat transfer has failed. (Note that it does work in “high cold deserts” where nights can rapidly get quite cold… as the water vapor is not present).

    Link: https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2012/12/12/tropopause-rules/

    In particular study the very blue graph of radiation by chemical species by altitude…

    Link: https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2014/06/01/le-chatelier-and-his-principle-vs-the-trouble-with-trenberth/

    Therefore: More CO2 will do nothing to the temperature of the lower atmosphere but will increase the cooling at the “above the troposphere” layers.

    In the lower atmosphere, conductive & convective heat flow increases non-linearly with added temperature (partly due to more evaporation). It functions as a Heat Pipe.
    link: https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2011/07/11/spherical-heat-pipe-earth/
    Link: https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2011/11/01/what-does-precipitation-say-about-heat-flow/
    Link: https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2011/08/17/pulsating-heat-pipes/

    You can see this in person in The Tropics right now. We are just entering “Hurricane Season”. This starts when the water temperature hits about 84F to 86F. At that point, there’s a very great increase in convective activity, that turns into rotational activity and linear air flow over the warm water, that gets rapidly cooled and ALL that heat goes WHOOSH! up the hurricane to the top where it spreads out over hundreds of miles sideways at the Tropopause AND PROMPTLY RADIATES HEAT TO SPACE. So much so we get pelted with ICE PELLETS (called hail) down here on the ground.

    After a hurricane passes, surface and water temperatures are several degrees cooler due to all this heat removal.

    Now, this year, we’ve not had a single hurricane in Florida so far. IMHO this is prime evidence for Ocean Cooling over the last few years due to the change of the solar spectrum (more IR causing prompt evaporation at the water surface and less Blue & UV so less energy deposited as heat 20 to 200 feet down in the ocean.)

    So all the focus on CO2, emissions / absorption etc. etc. is just a 3 ring circus to distract folks from looking at the Solar Spectrum vs Surface WATER and how that drives precipitation (and thus cooling at the tropopause and above); and also distracts from the question of WHERE the absorption and radiation happen. (i.e. in the stratosphere where storms deposit all that convective heat, the CO2 radiates to space.)

    In Short: “Global Warming Via CO2 is ‘not even wrong’; but a red herring.”

    We live in a Global Spherical Heat Pipe with water as the working fluid and heat radiation to space only happening above the Tropopause By Definition of Troposphere. Up There CO2 is a net radiator cooling the planet,

  169. E.M.Smith says:


    Then run the same experiment with 1 inch of water in the bottom…

  170. jim2 says:

    The experiment I described was an effort to put to bed whether or not CO2 in principle could cause a higher temp than without. As your post illustrates, the real climate system it too complex to model with at physical system in the lab or on a super computer.

  171. The True Nolan says:

    Eight minutes to debunk CAGW.

  172. David A says:

    Regarding solar flux.. EM says…
    “more IR causing prompt evaporation at the water surface and less Blue & UV so less energy deposited as heat 20 to 200 feet down in the ocean.)”

    I have often been curious how much variance four or five solar cycles of decreased or increased Blue and UV can make to OHC for the first 200′ of ocean depth. Solar insolation does penetrate up to 800′ in ideal conditions.

  173. another ian says:

    Music with a difference

    “I’d never heard of “Bardcore” until, quite by chance, I came across the Youtube channel of a lady calling herself Hildegard von Blingin’ (an obvious play on the medieval abbess, musician and composer, Hildegard von Bingen). She has this to say:”

    More at


  174. philjourdan says:

    @Ossqss – Thank god I have not had BPPV! I do understand the symptoms as others near me have had it. I am so glad you made it through! It is disorienting as hell! peace be to you!

  175. philjourdan says:

    @Power Grab – Re: Ensign Chekov

    Yes, he served 2 purposes.
    #1 he got the teenage generation on board with Star Trek
    #2 he lampooned the USSR’s insistent claims they had created/invented everything! It was a joke back in the 60s that the Russians had created all modern Western Literature/Art. Indeed, the Russians propagated it! SO Checkov was to bring in the teens and at the same time make fun of the Russian claims! Lysenkoism,

  176. another ian says:

    Power Grab

    Remember the Flanders and Swan line of “let the status symbols clash” – and the rest of the song

  177. another ian says:

    The “Tin Triangle” in action

    “Vulcan Barrel Roll Farnborough 1955 [HQ]”

    The plane is not exactly small either – see specs here


  178. The True Nolan says:

    The bardcore is nice! Here is one with lyrics modified from modern gangster (“better run, better run, outrun my bullets”) to something pre-gunpowder!

  179. Ossqss says:

    I like it TTN!

    I also like this one too!

    Link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDTZ7iX4vTQ

  180. another ian says:

    The Flanders and Swan line above comes from


    And their contribution to the understanding of thermodynamics

    “Flanders & Swann – ‘First And Second Law’ ”

  181. another ian says:

    “Kim Iversen: Why I’m No Longer On The Hill’s Rising”

  182. another ian says:


    “Why the Sun, Not CO2, Heats the Oceans Revisiting the Debate: Does Greenhouse Back-radiation Warm the Oceans?”


    Some dissention in comments

  183. AC Osborn says:

    jim2 says: 31 July 2022 at 5:57 pm
    rhoda – see

    Jim, that is an interesting experiment, which I have a few serious reservations about.
    a. The “depth” of gas relative to the size/surface area of the emmitter in no way relates to the size and surface area of the earth/atmosphere.
    b. They assumed Air as being transparent having an emmissivity of Zero, did they then remove any moisture and CO2?
    c. They calculated a 17% reduction in IR for CO2 but I make it 5.74-4.90 = 14.6%.
    d. The real problem as I see it is that they replaced Air with 0.04% of CO2 with 100% of CO2 which is an an increase of 2500 times of CO2.
    So if 2500 times as much CO2 achieves a 17% reduction in IR what would just 2 times as much CO2 achieve?

    You may be interested in this real world experiment.

  184. H.R. says:

    Well, I’m beat up and taking the day off. I’ve been building a gazebo (done) and now rebuilding a deck using composite decking. There’s still a bit to go on the deck.

    I’ve been keeping up with reading the articles and everyone’s comments, but I’ve only squeezed in a few comments myself. Same over at WUWT

    I built that deck to last and… I done good. It’s taken a few days just to remove the old deck boards with crowbars, Sawzall, drill, and cutoff wheel. Then it took all day to add a bit of bracing to the underframe so it will last another 20 years.

    Now I’ve got a small (hopefully) learning curve on installing composite deck boards. The hardware is different; clips and weird screws. I had to buy a special saw blade, too. That blade took half a day to chase down.

    All in all, the rebuild will see that deck through until I’m dead.

    BTW, when I built that deck, I used the old greenish pressure treated lumber, since banned, and it has lasted 15 years on the steps and 20+ years on the decking.

    I had to replace the 2″ x 12″ x 4′ steps about 5 years ago. They didn’t have the drainage of the deck. The replacement boards used the new treated lumber that didn’t have the arsenic – I think that was the ingredient – the old process used, and they already have to go, too. They only made it about 4 years.

    Also, the protected underframe showed no signs of rot. It is very solid, but I added a little extra bracing and two joists because the composite board isn’t as rigid as the old wood deck boards.

    Anybody else notice a difference in durability between the old outdoor lumber treatment process and the new process?

  185. jim2 says:

    Of possible interest to EMS:

    Torvalds wrote:
    [T]he most interesting part here is that I did the release (and am writing this) on an arm64 laptop. It’s something I’ve been waiting for for a _loong_ time, and it’s finally reality, thanks to the Asahi team. We’ve had arm64 hardware around running Linux for a long time, but none of it has really been usable as a development platform until now.


  186. jim2 says:

    The old wood preservative is CCA – chromated copper arsenate. There wasn’t much arsenic in it to begin with and it did leach out a small percentage, but it was the best wood preservative. Composite should be a good choice. We’ll see how it holds up mechanically.

  187. jim2 says:

    Wood preservatives. The new ones approved for home use suck compared to CCA.


  188. H.R. says:

    Thanks, jim2. I forgot that the old wood was called CCA. I was aware of the change and probably knew all about the differences at the time of the ban. But I couldn’t do anything about the change, so just ignored it and forgot about it all after that. I’m just finding out how much crappier the new process is from experience.

    Mechanically, the only downside to the composite decking is that it’s more flexible than the wood. That’s why I took the time to add a couple more joists.

    I’ve seen one or two instances of the composite decking that didn’t look so good, but I can’t say if it’s due to poor installation or the the composite isn’t that great.

    Parks departments are switching to composite because it’s maintenance free. In Florida, a lot of the boardwalks over the swamps have been replaced with composite. They get high traffic and high UV exposure, so if they hold up 5 or 10 years, I’m probably golden for another 25.

    A note about the clips that join the boards at the sides. We’re 4 seasons, so we get expansion and contraction with the change of seasons. The old deck screws prevent movement and the boards “work” the screws.

    The clip allows the boards to expand or contract in length without stressing the fasteners. I’ve allowed 1/8″ at each end of the boards – they sit in a frame – so they can expand in the Summer. I think that’s a plus for the clip fastening system.

  189. DonM says:

    I regularly see 20 to 50 year old treated footings (some in moist or even wet conditions) that show zero decay. When there is rot and I make them replace things, it is usually the result of introduced bacteria of some kind (eg. sewer leaks).

    I see the older composite decking failing just as much as wood. It is probably better today than it was 20 years ago. (maybe it was/is occasional factory issues and bad production batches).

    You probably know that the treatment is on the outside, so when you cut the steps to length you lose protection at the cut, or the bolt/nail holes.

    (I had a 60 year old trellis on my back porch (full weather exposure) that finally failed … the 1×4 cedar slats (painted once with the scary green stuff) were still good and I am now re-using some of them for other things). I kinda like the scary green stuff … do they still sell it in Mexico?

  190. p.g.sharrow says:

    @H.R. About 35 years ago I did a buildout inside a building with a concrete slab floor. 7 years later I did a remodel that required removal of a wall. The Fir in the wall showed no damage but that CCA sill on the concrete was disintegrating. Not from rot, It looked like the treatment was destroying the wood fibers, powderizing the softer summer wood but the hard winter wood was resisting it well . My guess Yellow Pine. Could be something in the concrete that sped this up, Same boards on damp dirt held up well over 30 years.

  191. jim2 says:

    Wood expands along the grain from humidity more so than from temperature. Plastic composites OTOH will be affected more by temperature. From your explanation, sounds like the clips are a good idea for the composite.

  192. jim2 says:

    If CCA destroyed SYP, it wouldn’t have been on the market for 50+ years. Must have been something else. Some phosphate based fire retardants do degrade wood under some circumstances.

  193. Ossqss says:

    @HR, make sure you stay within the maximum support spacing spec’s on the composite decking. When I did the dock 20 years back, the maximum on center distance for support was 12″. That decking is still doing well after all those years in the Florida Sun too.

  194. H.R. says:

    @Ossqss – I didn’t catch that 12″ was the spec, but that’s what I went to for the spacing. The 24′ I had was obviously just fine for the wood deck boards, but when I saw how the uncut planks behaved, it was clear 12″ was needed. It’s just not as rigid as wood.

  195. another ian says:


    Re “Wood preservatives. The new ones approved for home use suck compared to CCA.”

    That brings to mind a comment in a rural magazine here. The writer had a friend who discovered a termite problem in his house. The comment was –

    “These days my friend and I party on things stronger than you can use for termites”

  196. E.M.Smith says:

    @Per CCA:

    Also the “ban it if in any concentration it is toxic” folks have gone way overboard on a lot of things that are in fact needed in very small trace amounts. Looks like Arsenic may be one of them:


    They go on a lot about organic vs inorganic arsenic compounds. This ignores that mineral arsenic in the soil will likely be converted to an organic arsenic compound via some soil bacteria…

    Arsenic is most famous for being a deadly poison. However, organic arsenic is actually an essential nutrient and up to 20 milligrams (mg) of this nutrient can be found in the human body. In this article I will be discussing this nutrient in greater detail and providing you with a summary of its main functions, the best food sources, the recommended daily allowances (RDAs) and the potentially adverse effects of consuming too much or too little.

    3) RDA:

    Since arsenic has only recently been classified as an essential nutrient it has no official RDA. However, most sources recommend consuming between 0.0125 milligrams (mg) and 0.025mg of this nutrient each day. Organic arsenic has no tolerable upper limit (TUL) and consuming high levels is not thought to be dangerous. However, consuming 1mg or more of inorganic arsenic is dangerous and can lead to a number of unpleasant symptoms.

    All the panic over “Heavy Metal Poisoning” ignores the issue of DOSE. Many of them are essential micro-minerals but toxic in high doses. Kind of like water and oxygen….

  197. YMMV says:

    So they’ve set a deadline for Ukraine — November 8.
    This article doesn’t see much hope for Ukraine.

    Meanwhile, back at Taiwan, this article thinks China invading Taiwan would be bad news for China because its economy relies on Taiwan’s chips too.

  198. another ian says:


    Arsenic has been on the borderline for essential for quite a while. IIRC Underwood considered it to be the case back in the 1970’s.

    One of its earlier uses was in bluestone and arsenic drench for internal parasites in sheep. Could probably be argued that any positive effect might have come from the nutritional benefit provided by Cu and As.

    Also a good excuse for people from out here in areas that are likely deficient to scoff up on prawns when in coastal areas. Being bottom feeders, they have elevated levels of arsenic.

  199. another ian says:

    Tucker link in here


    Brings to mind the expression that if all the brains were dynamite and exploded at once it wouldn’t lift a hat.

  200. rhoda klapp says:

    The Taiwan move only makes sense to me under two scenarios. One, we are supporting Taiwan and don’t care if China is offended. I can’t believe that, I’m inclined to go with Two, that this will give an excuse for Joe’s China pals to invade Taiwan and we the west won’t do a thing about it.

    However, an invasion across a hundred miles of sea against a prepared island is not an easy military operation. How long did D-day take to plan and prepare for? I can only assume Taiwan has had 75 years to build up its defences. . Bunkers, hardened hangars, mines and seaborne opposition. The Taiwanese only need to plan for one scenario. And they will see it coming, they have reconnaissance resources to detect any buildup, and buildup there must be. And they will, if they have any sense, not be relying on the USA or any other ‘ally’.

  201. r says:

    I’m also assuming that both Chinas have thoroughly penetrated the other side’s intel . China knows where the defences are, Taiwan knows the plans.

  202. E.M.Smith says:

    @Rhoda per Taiwan Trip:

    There’s also “Pick up crate of cash from Taiwan ‘to assure promptness'” (i.e. a TIP) for Pelosi & the Dems. Kind of like that DNC trip to Ukraine at the start of their war…

    Oh, and consider the effect of a Chinese Nuke on any Taiwan ships at sea and coastal defenses…

    China just wants the land. It doesn’t want the people…

  203. H.R. says:

    @rhoda – What you say about Taiwan being well prepared makes sense. For the longest time, Taiwan was pretty much on their own having not had the chance to develop much in the way of allies.

    Now that the world is being torn up by the GEBs, they probably have made plans that assume there will be no help from the allies they now have.

    A while back, China was doing a bit of sabre rattling and E.M., I believe, or perhaps it was someone else mentioned that Taiwan’s almost exclusive hold on chip making is their leverage. “Stay back or we blow up all of the chip factories!”

    I’ve forgotten who, when, and exactly where but last week I read that a chip making factory will be built here in the US. Given China’s ownership of our politicians, it wouldn’t surprise me that they are making sure the politicians are handing out all sorts of tax incentives and subsidies to get that done in a hurry. That would remove Taiwan’s best defensive threat.

    Meanwhile, China’s investment in destroying US military capability will continue at a rapid pace while China Joe is still pResident. The sabre rattling will continue, and feints will be made to put the fine points on their military plans.

    I think China is more afraid of Taiwan at the moment than of the US. Once there are other sources of chips besides Taiwan, there’s no reason for China not to take over Taiwan.

  204. rhoda klapp says:

    “I’ve forgotten who, when, and exactly where but last week I read that a chip making factory will be built here in the US.”

    This is the one where Nancy’s hubby (in a community property state) bought a bunch of Nvidia stock ahead of the bill providing funding for US chip production. Nothing suspicious going on there.

  205. H.R. says:

    @rhoda – Oh, nothing suspicious about that at… SQUIRREL!!

  206. p.g.sharrow says:

    A year ago , Putin’s Russia and the CCP’s China thought that they had the Western nations on the run, The GEBs of the world believed that they had beaten the Western Body Politic and could collect their winnings and divide up the spoils. BUT, now they must dispose of their rivals, because that is how the “Game of Thrones” is played.

    Long ago a great Emperor ask his seers about his desire to end the annoyance of the Greeks. and was told that if he invaded them he would be destroying a great nation. So he did invade and lost his Army, Empire and his life. Moral of the story,” Be careful about what you wish for.”

    Putin wanted to give a great Victory to Russia for their 75 year celebration over the Nazis in the “Great Patriotic War”. Now he has lost half of his army and the Russian Federation is starting to crumble around him.
    The CCP’s China is also coming apart at the seams as their economic Potemkin Village is coming down around their ears. If the CCP’s PLA attacks Taiwan it is the CCP that will lose. If the PLA rises to attack Pelosi’s Aircraft it would be Taiwanese Fighters providing defense, not Americans. Taiwan’s Nationalists still claim All of China, and they have been waiting for 70 years for a rematch. Meanwhile the CCP wants to finish their war with the Nationalists. “Be careful about what you wish for”

    In all cases, the use of nuclear weapons against their enemies would be ” internal” and pointless.

    There are many players here not all of them are visible or have evil power lusts..

  207. another ian says:


    Just in time!

    “Preparing for hurricane season”


  208. another ian says:

    Pointman in comments at latest thread

    “Zuesse: Why The EU Could End Within A Year.

    A lot of member states are beginning to wonder if it’s still worth being in the EU.

    “Miserable” German Retail Sales Crash The Most On Record As Europe Slumps Into Recession.


    Especially if they’re only there to prop up Germany.”

  209. another ian says:

    A “How To” of covid management (/s) – a Canadian example

    “A Literature Degree To Rule Them All”

    “Among other things, the court documents indicate:

    No one in the COVID Recovery unit, including Jennifer Little, the director-general, had any formal education in epidemiology, medicine or public health.”

    More at


    Shades of

    R.V. Jones “Most Secret War”

    Around about 1930

    “T.C. Keeley was my tutor and in addition to physics he offered wisdom. He warned us that if another war broke out there would be a disastrous period for six months while those who had reached high positions on inadequate abilities in peacetime would have to be replaced”

  210. another ian says:

    Hi E.M. – take a bow

    “You Are Not Alone!”

    “Heather Heying, one half of the excellent DarkHorse Podcast, published a very inspirational white-pill editorial this morning. It should resonated with a lot of SDA readers:

    I have been hearing from people who feel very much alone. People who are grateful that I and many others are speaking up and out. We who speak up are publicly analyzing trends and claims. We refuse to kowtow to authoritarians, including the ones who wear lab coats or have fancy degrees or work at legacy institutions. And we call out bullshit when we see it. Because I am one such public voice who has been standing for science and against newspeak, I know this for sure: You are not alone.”

    More at


  211. The True Nolan says:


    “Croesus gave charge that they should ask the Oracles this question also,—whether Croesus should march against the Persians, and if so, whether he should join with himself any army of men as his friends. And when the Lydians had arrived at the places to which they had been sent and had dedicated the votive offerings, they inquired of the Oracles and said: “Croesus, king of the Lydians and of other nations, considering that these are the only true Oracles among men, presents to you gifts such as your revelations deserve, and asks you again now whether he shall march against the Persians, and if so, whether he shall join with himself any army of men as allies.” They inquired thus, and the answers of both the Oracles agreed in one, declaring to Croesus that if he should march against the Persians he should destroy a great empire: and they counselled him to find out the most powerful of the Hellenes and join these with himself as friends.” — Herodotus, Book 1-53

  212. The True Nolan says:

    How big governments function in under three and a half minutes.

  213. Ossqss says:

    No disrespect, but the Democracies in the UK, Australia, and now Canada is obviously down to pitchforks for defending against Tyranny.

    Yeah, lots of others. You do the math. Who is left standing on scale?

  214. Ossqss says:

    I find it apropos>

  215. H.R. says:

    @TTN – The ‘clueless-but-brazen-it-out’ video? He could have also asked what the price of a gallon of milk was and how much it had changed and I’m betting that Minister wouldn’t have known that, either.

  216. another ian says:


    I’m not sure what is going on here.

    I brought up Jo Nova’s site just now and met a new message –

    An example from the first comment at


    “John Connor II
    August 2, 2022 at 12:19 pm Log in to Reply ”

    That leads to a WordPress log in which needs a password – which I obviously don’t have.

    More when and if I get to know more

  217. jim2 says:

    I can access Jo’s site. From the latest article:

    The Australian capital city Canberra in midwinter is often minus 1 to 5 degrees C in the morning. Australian homes can get very cold and with heating bills rocketing, things are defacto becoming like life in Berlin, which is in a pre-War energy crisis footing. No one labeled Canberra public halls as “warm spaces” and they definitely aren’t open at night (it’s the public service!), but crowds are arriving at libraries just to escape the cold.

  218. jim2 says:

    This is so lame. Some people are saying global warming caused the Kentucky floods and blame the people there for not taking global warming seriously. What world do those idiots live in?

    In the wake of disastrous flooding that claimed the lives of more than 30 Kentuckians, those in the state are not only dealing with cleanup efforts but also vitriolic comments that suggest the victims deserved their fate because of the political makeup of Eastern Kentucky.


  219. The True Nolan says:

    @H.R. “The ‘clueless-but-brazen-it-out’ video? ”

    I am not sure that was a case of being clueless. My suspicion is that it was a case of planned insult, a sort of “You are not even worth responding to, so I will take this opportunity to tell how GREAT my side is!” I really wish I knew what the response of Blue Suit’s supporters is. Do they see his absolute failure to interact as a victory for right thinking people — or do they see it (as I do) as an insult to the public?

    Clueless? Or just being a brass bound jerk? Either way, the situation creates a complete failure to function and an end to any meaningful compromise. Here in the US more and more people are at the stage of “no more talk, no more compromise, this far is already too far, and you WILL take your boot off my neck!” As much as I dislike violence, there are some things which are worse. We literally have crazy people running vast parts of our culture.

    Interesting times.

  220. H.R. says:

    @jim2 – Ever since forever, heavy rains in mountain regions cause flooding in the narrow valleys. Also, most of the suitable land for building is in the valleys or on the mountain tops.

    All of the people in the Appalachians know this and many have lost family members in prior floods.

    In the ’50s and ’60s and even later, I’d read in the papers about flash flooding in Kentuckey or West Virginia or Tennessee that took some or even many lives. A lot of those people didn’t have radio, TV, or quite a few still didn’t have electricity. That has changed.

    The key is warning people. They just have to climb up the mountainsides enough to avoid being swept away. A 25′ or 50′ climb can see them to safety. Wet, miserable, and their home gone, but safe.

    I don’t know what failed in this case so that the people didn’t get enough warning to get out.

    As far as the tasteless, crass morons who are using this tragedy to push their totally disconnected agenda of “Climate Change™” I say they can go █████████ ** and furthermore █████████** those █████████s. 😡😡😡😡 They should skip purgatory and go straight to the 11th Circle of Hell.

    ** No, you can’t imagine, and it will be a while before the steam stops coming out of my ears. E.M. is busy with the house so this comment could get stuck in moderation for a good while if I actually wrote that out.

  221. another ian says:


    Re Jo Nova

    “PS: Strangely, accidentally the site started asking people for registrations. Perhaps the cat stood on the wrong key?

    It may become necessary one day, but I would let readers know. Apologies. Things hopefully are back to normal…”

  222. another ian says:


    At least you’re not faced with one of these

    A couple of “Build Back Bigger” people corrals

    “Dutch investors launch new marketing programme for NL: Tristate City”




  223. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian;

    Yeah, the real reason they want to shut down farming in Holland; steal the land.

    Then that Saudi ‘Line’ city looks like a horrible idea. Have they never heard of the abject failure of Mega Housing buildings world wide? Folks hate “The Projects” and they rapidly end up in ruins.

    Oh Well. Their money & land.

    One wonders how folks living inside all the time will do on Vit-D status and diseases…

  224. rhoda klapp says:

    They just want everybody in the same place. I can only assume it is easier to impose total control. So, be rural, don’t be urban, and you will be freer. For a while.

  225. jim2 says:

    The U.S. made a breakthrough battery discovery — then gave the technology to China


  226. The True Nolan says:

    Hmmm…. I am thinking that maybe I should cancel any plans for taking up acrobatic paragliding.

  227. The True Nolan says:

    @E.M. “One wonders how folks living inside all the time will do on Vit-D status and diseases…”

    Not well. And that is just one more of the wonderful design features!

    @rhoda K: “They just want everybody in the same place. I can only assume it is easier to impose total control.”

    Makes it easier to fumigate out the useless eaters. Plus, the new gases break down in only 24 hours and don’t leave that yucky cyanide residue like the old gas from the 1940s.

  228. H.R. says:

    Russia just sentenced a WNBA (women’s pro basketball) player to 9 1/2 years in prison for stupidity.

    It seems she brought in a good supply of CBD oil, which is a controlled substance in Russia. Technically, she was sentenced for drug possession, but when it comes down to it, she just did something stupid.

    Yeah, CBD oil is legal everywhere in the US. Heck! I think you can buy it at any Gas ‘n Go type of station. I know the WNBA plays exhibition games around the world. I can’t believe that any experienced traveler wouldn’t check on anything they are taking to another country that’s not a prescription drug and has their name on it.

    I suppose she was detained as a bargaining chip for Russia, given the current situation. But still, that was a dumb thing to do.

  229. philjourdan says:

    @Rhoda Klapp – re:

    They just want everybody in the same place. I can only assume it is easier to impose total control.

    Bingo! Crime is higher, so fear is higher (ever wonder why cities are bastions of liberalism? They thrive on fear). Clear the land, make the people cower in fear and demand security, and you have China. “One party to rule them all and in the darkness bind them”

    Sorry JRR Tolkien.

  230. jim2 says:

    CBD oil isn’t a very well defined product. It’s worse than a box of chocolates.

  231. philjourdan says:

    @TTN – If that video does not make you a believer in God, nothing will! But it sure made me a believer in NOT Paragliding!

  232. philjourdan says:

    @HR – the backstory.

    Yes, she is not guilty of any conspiracy, but she also said the SSB was racist. And does the knee job very well. And yes, Russia is making her a pawn with the brain dead Biden.

    But the reason she went there is the normal salary of WNBA players is about a quarter mil. But in the European league they can make a Million+.

    So what happened?

    She took some pot into Russia which is not woke.
    She got busted.
    Putin invaded Ukraine because they violated the treaty from the 90s.
    They made an example of her
    Biden is being an asshole blustering when he has no balls.
    She is a pawn in a geo political war that the west is losing (see the latest from Chiefio)

    Do I sympathize with her? NO. She is actually exactly where she wants to be! Maybe someday she will realize she had a sweet deal here. But being a liberal, that is a small chance.

  233. Ossqss says:

    So, what would the convicted Russia problem be if it was in Iran, Iraq or any other country that has stricter views on things.

    Just sayin, there is a 30 story drop for many anomalies elsewhere IIRC>

  234. Ossqss says:

    I would tell, I did the professional Epley treatment today for BVVP and it was awesome. I would recommend it as a PM for everyone. Just physical movements in order everyone can easily do in the end and avoid the crap I dealt with.

    Just sayin, removed build up over years and is a definite refresher regardless. No BS!

    Pumped up the Jam that was in the inner ear and made my day!

  235. jim2 says:

    Zelensky then made a startling admission about who is winning the war in Ukraine:

    “We still cannot break the advantage of the Russian army in artillery and in manpower, and this is very felt in the battles, especially in the Donbass – Peski, Avdiivka, and other directions. It’s just hell. It can’t even be described in words.”



  236. The True Nolan says:

    A quick few seconds from the Alex Jones trial:

  237. another ian says:


  238. another ian says:


    “What Are You Gonna Believe? Your Lyin’ Eyes?”


  239. another ian says:

    “We Now Know Why Plant-Based Food Company “Beyond Meat” Has Crashed and Burned”


    Via https://www.lewrockwell.com/political-theatre/we-now-know-why-plant-based-food-company-beyond-meat-has-crashed-and-burned/

    Maybe the fate of crickets etc too?

  240. H.R. says:

    Re Beyond Meat: I believe the “Impossible Whopper” at Burger King was my first awareness of the Beyond Meat burgers. I was going to try one, but even with a coupon to encourage a trial, they were too expensive. What was the point when I could by a good ol’ Whopper at regular price for over a dollar less than the special coupon price?

    Then the topic came up here, and the Frankenstein list of ingredients was noted and that put paid to even giving it trial.

    In the grocery stores, there were coupons and some people tried it. Then I started noticing that it would wind up in the “Last best by markdown bin” and I don’t think there were many takers at that very low price.

    It’s been a bit over a year, and last month, I saw a whole bunch of frozen Beyond Meat in the Clearance/Discontinued Freezer section. They slowly emptied out there.

    Morningstar Farms was started to make foods for 7th Day Adventists, who are vegetarians. The company was started by a group from that church and a lot (all?) of the production workers are members of the church.

    They have been making vegetarian foods for many years with increasing sales due to their loyal purchasing base of church members, and then the increase of vegans and vegetarians. The company is highly pleased with the increased sales, of course, but they really don’t care because they are going to always be there for their base. They will always have a certain level of sales that won’t go away.

    I’ve tried their burgers. A veggie was coming to a cookout, so I got their black bean burgers for that person. A package was too much for one, so the other patties were eaten by us carnivores. Yum they are very good. Thumbs up from all. I bout some for the grill two more times just for the change of taste. (I think they were on sale, so hey! Let’s get a pack of the black bean burgers.)

    A few years after that, I started seeing their black bean burgers on casual dining menus so there would be a vegetarian option. They seem to stick and not get dropped from most menus.

    I think Beyond Meat was not picking up sales from 7th Day Adventists because they already had delicious and trusted “Kosher” veggie dishes from their church-owned company. (They might probably also believe Bill Gates is Satan, so that wouldn’t help Beyond Meat sales. I dunno.)

  241. E.M.Smith says:


    the 7th Day Adventists are about 1/2 vegetarians. it isn’t mandatory, just encouraged. All your analysis still holds even with that. They are commonly recruited to medical A/B studies of vegetarian impact due to the close match of genetics and even same-household “familial incidence” proximity. Makes it easy to say “only diet” was the difference when Suzy was vegetarian and Mary was eating meat at the same dinner table, born of the same parents, raised in the same place.

    At college, the local snack shack had a Mushroom Burger. LOTS of mushrooms, grilled, cheese melted into it, onto a burger bun. Man it was good.

    THE major mistake most folks make trying to go Vegetarian, is that they try to recreate Meat Dishes with vegetables. Just make a good vegetable dish and move on. Don’t try to make it what it isn’t. There’s no way anyone can ever mistake a Mushroom Burger for a beef burger, but I still wish I could get one sometimes. It was a preference item to get it as it was that tasty. But not at all like meat. ( I think they had some seasonings or sauce on it that were special and well matched).

    But take some plants and try to make it look and taste and feel like meat? Just making a bit of faux crap out of what could be a good dish if you let it be itself. Like the Bean Burger that is NOT trying to pretend it is meat. Just a damn good bean burger.

  242. H.R. says:

    Yes, E.M. – It isn’t mandatory for the 7DA to be vegetarian, but I wasn’t going to go into that. The larger point was that Baal Gates’ Beyond Meat Great Adventure might have been counting on that population, and to my knowledge the 7DA weren’t going to switch brands. There’s that Church loyalty factor and the Morningstar Farms products are excellent.

    I didn’t know the 7DA were asked to participate in various medical studies. That makes a lot of sense and makes for a much better study.

    Per ‘Shroom burgers. I ran across those a couple of times when I lived in Kalifornistan and tried them once. Yes, very good to someone like me who loves mushrooms. If any place has fried mushrooms on the appetizer menu, I always order some.

    I also saw some mushroom burgers in the frozen foods case after I had moved back to the Midwest. I tried them once, but whatever I bought wasn’t all that good, so I never bought ‘shroom burgers again. I haven’t seen them on menus here in the Midwest, just the fried mushrooms.

    And yet another vote for the black bean ‘burgers’ from E.M.

    Yes! They are very good, and they don’t pretend to be beef. I highly recommend them for anyone who just wants a change of taste and has no intention of becoming a vegetarian.

  243. The True Nolan says:

    @H.R. “And yet another vote for the black bean ‘burgers’ from E.M.”

    Add another vote. It is a fairly common addition to our table for years now.

    As a general rule, “Morningstar, yes — Newer syntho-meat, NO”.

  244. another ian says:

    “Here is an interesting video about the mathematics of creating electoral districts with more or less similar populations plus gerrymandering thereof. It is a US video but the principles would apply to Australia or elsewhere.

    See demonstration motion gif at https://gfycat.com/illfatedgargantuankusimanse

    See video at: https://youtu.be/Lq-Y7crQo44


  245. The True Nolan says:

    Very interesting short video from Darkhorse Podcast detailing how mainstream news reports will rewrite the past to suit current social narratives. “83 year old woman, released on parole, murders third victim.” Oh, really?

  246. Taz says:

    Argentine Minister of Economy almost lynched by an angry crowd in Buenos Aires.

  247. another ian says:

    Looking behind the curtain

    “A Curious Case of Transferred Battery Technology
    August 6, 2022 | sundance | 111 Comments”

    “The issue surrounds a new product technology called a vanadium redox flow battery. ”


    And likely more to come

  248. another ian says:

    “The Elites Know PRECISELY What They’re Doing”

    On digital ID


  249. H.R. says:

    I’m not seeing the “almost lynched” in that Argentine video.

  250. rhoda klapp says:

    Eva Vlaardingerbroek is quite something. Very smart and articulate in what is not her native language.

  251. E.M.Smith says:


    Yeah, I didn’t see it either. Click-Bait title. The car was surrounded. People hollered and hit the car. Then it drives away. Nobody had hands on the person. No rope in sight.

    There’s a giant chasm between “lynch” and “bother”…


    That’s a startling one. So “the paper of record” can’t bring itself to say that a 2 time MALE murderer with a history of attacking women (real women) decided to “transition” (and does that mean he was taking hormones or that his “outtie” is in a jar somewhere? – I think the difference matters…) so made parole. Then became a serial killer with #3, likely for the same reasons of not liking real women who didn’t accept him; even as a her…

    VERY different story when you look at all the facts as opposed to when the NYT (“Novel Yarns & Tales” ?) spins a bogus narrative out of it.



  252. The True Nolan says:

    @E.M. : “So “the paper of record” can’t bring itself to say that a 2 time MALE murderer with a history of attacking women (real women) decided to “transition””

    The new catechism: Trans-women ARE women! They were, are, and ever shall be women! Until they change they minds, at which point they were, are, and ever shall be MEN!

    In a weird sort of way, I can understand why they do this. They have no real sense of history, none at all. Our standards, customs and laws AT THIS MOMENT give us the template against which we judge all former people and times. The murderer says he (she?) is a woman, therefore “she” was, is and ever shall be, a woman. We do not approve of slavery today, therefore all previous generations which accepted it as the order of things were, are, and ever shall be evil, Simon Legree slavers, and rapists. We understand evolution today, therefore all previous generations which did not understand were, are, and ever shall be ignorant bigots. We say that CO2 is killing the planet, therefore all prior people who burned wood to heat their homes were, are, and ever shall be ravaging, planet destroying, brutes. And so on and so on. It is the logic and thinking of a pre-rational child, a spoiled brat stuck in the eternal now when only one’s immediate feelings and understanding have any validity.

    Simple, once you just accept it and give up trying to make any sense of it.

  253. David A says:

    Not to be a “ conspiracy theorist”
    Yet now the Netherlands farming story makes more sense.

  254. another ian says:

    “Magic Juice+Magic Pills”

    “Robert Malone- Paxlovid Escape Mutations?

    President Biden’s two and a half-week Covid-19 marathon

    President Biden continues to harbor the COVID-19 virus (SARS-CoV-2) in his body. He first contracted COVID-19 on July 21, two and a half weeks before the present. Is this because of immunosuppression – due to his heavily boosted status, or for some other reason? That being said, the single antiviral drug regime of Paxlovid may also be causing the virus to stay in his body for a long time, an effect otherwise referred to as “the rebound” effect:

    Rair Foundation- Germany’s Largest Health Insurer Reveals 1 in 25 Clients Underwent Medical Treatment in 2021 for Covid ‘Vaccine’ Side Effects

    Dr. Peter McCullough- 96% of doctors took them and then later on they learned about the risks of neurological damage, blood clots, myocarditis. So they feel since they took the risk, their patients should bear that risk too. Its a form of fear-driven disordered thinking. Patients should probe them.

    CBS- New York Health Department says hundreds of people may be infected with polio virus ”

    Links at


  255. another ian says:

    On job shedding in the Canadian economy

    “Avoiding the obvious”


    And the comments

  256. The True Nolan says:

    Another ian: “96% of doctors took them and then later on they learned about the risks of neurological damage, blood clots, myocarditis. So they feel since they took the risk, their patients should bear that risk too. ”

    Another case of mentation similar to the trans mania. Call it trans-vaxxed mania. “I took the vaxx, so YOU need to confirm my decision!”

  257. another ian says:

    “Putting It Into Reverse”

    Willis E looks at radiation in climatology


  258. another ian says:

    “It’s a sad Sunday Morning Music for me today, because yesterday I learned that Judith Durham, lead singer of The Seekers during their heyday in the 1960’s, died on Friday. Her voice was extraordinary, but so was her life in general, in so many ways.”


  259. another ian says:

    This goes with that

    “This gotta be such an anthem, this song is special” – American singer reacts to Judith Durham & The Seekers.”


    And the tribute above is via a bloke from South Africa now in USA.

  260. David A says:

    My Netherlands link was a bit of a fail. ( Correct site, wrong article)

    I did not know “The Netherlands is the second-largest agricultural exporter in the world after the United States. It is the largest meat exporter in the European Union.”
    I did not know that in September 2021 Bill Gates apparently spent about 600 million purchasing a company that would immensely profit from the current government actions. Yet more evidence that they really are out to do great evil.

    The null hypothesis of assuming disastrous acts as being the result of stupidity, versus evil, may now be reversed.

  261. E.M.Smith says:


    Ah, yes, that explains it. They suffer from TB (Tiny Brains) and can not hold “change” in them, only “present state”, so all history is just an extrapolation from “present state”…

    Context and detail take so much more memory and processing power, after all, best to just leave it out… /sarc;

    @David A:

    For a couple of years now I’ve been of the mindset that Hanlon’s Razor needed an addendum:

    I’ve tried a few different formulations. Best I’ve got so far is something like “Smith’s Addendum to Hanlon’s Razor”: To rise to high office requires some skill and intelligence along with social connections, in the party, staff or candidate; therefore “stupidity” is not sufficient to explain their actions: they are evil and it is “malice”.

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  263. another ian says:

    Latest Pointman



  264. another ian says:

    A new chapter in the covid saga

    “Pfizer Spends $5.4 Billion Cash to Purchase Company That Specializes in Treatment of Blood Disorders
    August 8, 2022 | Sundance | 186 Comments”


  265. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    At this point, what with Pharma & Food Processors clearly in the Dr. Evil WEF Camp:

    I’m not trusting ANY product from Big Pharma or Big Food to be clean, fit for purpose, unadulterated, and in my better interests. I.E. I’m skipping any and all products of theirs that I can live without.

    So let’s see, first push a blood disorder causing drug / rna treatment on the world, then treat the blood disorders. Sure sounds like your typical Drug Dealer Racket to me.

    Frankly, at this point, I’d trust the Corner Drug Dealer more than I’d trust Pfizer…

  266. another ian says:

    “Updating and revising our approach to self-defense, Part 1”


    More coming

  267. E.M.Smith says:

    Ever get the feeling that some sites read like a robot wrote them? Thank Google…

    THIS showed up in my SPAM folder today…

    Google Sites
    https: / /sites.google.com/view/best-ai-content-writing-tools/home
    Are you writing the articles in your website yourself
    or you outsource them? I am a blogger and having difficulty with
    content. Other bloggers told me I should use an AI
    content writer, they are actually pretty good. Here is a sample article some bloggers shared with me.
    Please let me know what your opinion on it and should I go ahead and use AI – https: / /sites.google.com/view/best-ai-content-writing-tools/home

    Supposedly at freenet in Germany, what does “Whois” say about it?

    Enter Domain or IP

    Whois IP
    Updated 1 second ago
    # ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use
    # available at: https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/whois/tou/
    # If you see inaccuracies in the results, please report at
    # https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/whois/inaccuracy_reporting/
    # Copyright 1997-2022, American Registry for Internet Numbers, Ltd.

    NetRange: –
    NetName: CC-17
    NetHandle: NET-107-172-0-0-1
    Parent: NET107 (NET-107-0-0-0-0)
    NetType: Direct Allocation
    OriginAS: AS36352
    Organization: ColoCrossing (VGS-9)
    RegDate: 2013-12-27
    Updated: 2013-12-27
    Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/

    OrgName: ColoCrossing
    OrgId: VGS-9
    Address: 325 Delaware Avenue
    Address: Suite 300
    City: Buffalo
    StateProv: NY
    PostalCode: 14202
    Country: US

    RegDate: 2005-06-20
    Updated: 2019-10-17

    Yeah, right…

    So, OK, I’ve not hit the links as I don’t want to encourage any “hit counts” on replies nor do I want to find out if they are poaching on a Google Name. Whatever.

    Just really, sending what looks like robot generated SPAM to encourage folks to use robot generated content in their web sites. What a trashy thing…

    Google: Crapping up the Internet for decades!

  268. Ossqss says:

    I am hearing Trump is being raided by the FBI?

  269. H.R. says:

    The FBI raid on Mara Lago is the top article on Treehouse right now.

    President Trump has put out a statement.

  270. another ian says:

    “100 EV’s mysteriously destroyed in fire in India”


    Mention of a new term – SVDS = Sudden Vehicle Death Syndrome

    In comments there re the absence of any mention in the ysm

    “Mr. Rotten: Yes, I heard nothing of this, only happens when all media hands are on deck to assure nobody reports this- ergo, I conclude this was caused by an EV charging. This story was quashed so thoroughly in the US, it must have been Hunter Biden’s rickshaw!”

  271. jim2 says:

    Yes, Biden’s SS raided Trump’s home. I feel Trump saw this coming. Who didn’t?

  272. Ossqss says:

    Interesting that the day after the massive legislation passes, this happens?

    Things that make you go, Hummmm>

  273. another ian says:

    Another one

    “The Warner empire went woke — Zaslav is now in cleanup mode to prevent it from going broke.”


  274. another ian says:

    Re the raid –

    I see mention of taking boxes without inspection. It would be funny it the safe was loaded with boxes of blank paper in anticipation.

  275. H.R. says:

    The raid is all just a fishing expedition.

  276. Guvuhmint initiated raid on the records of an outgoing US President – the Democrats have crossed the line. Yet another trumped up charge against Donald Trump on its way?

    Meanwhile the Hunter Biden lap-top controversy – crickets from media or FBI !

  277. AC Osborn says:

    Is anyone naive enough to believe that the FBI won’t “find” some Whitehouse papers in the boxes taken from Trump’s residence?
    After all who has all the Whitehouse papers at the moment, that’s right BIden, Pelosi and co.

  278. another ian says:


    I suspect that a lot fewer people won’t be firmly convinced that the FBI put any such there too

  279. President Harry Truman saw the FBI as the seed of a totalitarian octopus it would later become. “We want no Gestapo or Secret Police,” Truman wrote. “F.B.I. is tending in that direction. They are dabbling in sex life scandals, and plain blackmail when they should be catching criminals.” Whether it’s mass unconstitutional spying, interfering in American elections, lying to courts, or entrapping and sometimes framing innocent Americans, the debate over whether we should have an FBI is drawing to a close.
    Power Corrupts. We see it with the U. N. from its modest beginning to its Great Reset. See my latest essay re Opportunism Rules. )

  280. H.R. says:

    I recommend a click on Beth’s name to check out her latest essay. This one is a good one (her’s always are) and it’s particularly relevant to recent events.

  281. jim2 says:

    The raid on Mar-a-Lago may do for the Republicans what the Supreme court ruling on Roe did for the Dimowits.

  282. jim2 says:

    On the PGPP “Mobile Pro” plan, which costs $90 per month, users get unlimited mobile data in the US and, at launch, unlimited international data in most European Union countries. Users also get 30 random IMSI number changes per month, and the changes can happen automatically (essentially one per day) or on demand whenever the customer wants them. The system is designed to be blinded so neither INVISV nor the cell towers you connect to know which IMSI is yours at any given time. There’s also a “Mobile Core” plan for $40 per month that offers eight IMSI number changes per month and 9 GB of high-speed data per month.

    Both of these plans also include PGPP’s Relay service. Similar to Apple’s iCloud Private Relay, PGPP’s Relay is a method for blocking everyone, from your internet provider or carrier to the websites you visit, from knowing both who you are and what you’re looking at online at the same time. Such relays send your browsing data through two way stations that allow you to browse the web like normal while shielding your information from the world. When you navigate to a website, your IP address is visible to the first relay—in this case, Invisv—but the information about the page you’re trying to load is encrypted. Then the second relay generates and connects an alternate IP address to your request, at which point it is able to decrypt and view the website you’re trying to load. The content delivery network Fastly is working with Invisv to provide this second relay. Fastly is also one of the third-party providers for iCloud Private Relay.


  283. H.R. says:

    Nice tech find, jim2. Heck! I might even be tempted to ditch the ol’ flip phone with PGPP and the relay service being available.


  284. YMMV says:

    “Glenn Diesen: As the tide turns in Ukraine, is the US preparing to throw Zelensky under the bus?”
    “With Kiev’s defenses unraveling, the narrative surrounding the country’s leader has suddenly changed in Western media”

    It says NYT and WaPo are no longer treating Zelensky as the hero who can do no wrong.
    Like Biden’s PR image? But don’t worry, we still have Fauci. (sarc)

  285. Jon K says:

    Looks like the deep state is trying to eliminate Trump from the possibility of running again with that raid.


  286. another ian says:

    “Here is the most comprehensive analysis you’ll see all day on the Raid on Trump’s House”

    Link at


  287. another ian says:

    More brilliance from the democrats

    “The Democrats’ Inflation Act is like drilling more holes to stop a leaky boat”


  288. another ian says:


  289. another ian says:


    “OPINION Climate meme debunked as the ‘tropospheric hot spot’ is found”


  290. another ian says:


    “Has Paracetamol (Tylenol) made this pandemic much worse than it should have been?”


  291. another ian says:

    Definitely FWIW

    “Claim: Reserve Banks Should Hire Climate Scientists”


  292. another ian says:


    “The cover-up in Ukraine enters FINAL phase | Redacted with Natali and Clayton Morris

    Start at 4:44 for the Ukraine section

  293. rhoda klapp says:

    This thread is taking ages to load for me..

  294. YMMV says:

    Mar-a-Lago, Ruby Ridge, Waco Siege, … Does Wikipedia have a list of FBI disasters?
    Doesn’t look like it. Only this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FBI_controversies

  295. another ian says:

    “Fox- Jesse Watters exposes Paul Pelosi Jr.’s alleged shady business dealings”


  296. another ian says:

    “And Now, Since 48 Hours Has Expired….”

    “It has now developed that the Raid at Mar-A-Largo was supported by an affidavit that positively identified both the presence of documents that were retained or taken by Trump in violation of Federal Law and where they were.

    The FBI was specifically interested in Trump’s “newer” safe, so presumably that’s where they were told the documents were.

    Except…. The safe was empty.\”

    “It is also reported that there was nothing in the safe.

    Now maybe — just maybe — the FBI found something else. We don’t know, but now given the 48 hours and more information, I am laughing my ass off here because if this is what happened then Trump accomplished several things and, in fact, it might just get him a second Presidential term — like it or not.”

    More at


  297. another ian says:

    “The Trump raid and its aftermath: don’t be blind to reality”


  298. another ian says:

    More smoke?

    “The Silence of DeSantis – Florida Governor Ducks Media Appearances, Records Statements, Seeking to Avoid Questions About Trump Raid
    August 10, 2022 | sundance | 860 Comments”


  299. p.g.sharrow says:

    Anyone that gets their information from “Redacted” is going to be majorly misinformed,. I have watched them several times as I compare and evaluate the information available. They are mostly click bait Headline orientated. Not a real information source.

  300. another ian says:


    I did start with FWIW

  301. Ossqss says:

    Sooo, I got a 500 internal server error on all the IRS links for job postings?

    I wonder why, 87,000 times……


  302. E.M.Smith says:


    Yeah, the “page weight” in comments has reached the uncomfortable stage. I’m planning a replacement in the next day or so. I try to do a couple of “content” articles and then a W.O.O.D., so it isn’t all just User Contributed via comments. When I’m over booked, that can result in slow loads on any less than blazing fast link.

  303. David A says:

    another Ian says, “100 EV’s mysteriously destroyed in fire in India”
    Remember the ship full of new cars that caught fire and sunk, that story disappeared real quick. For the tiny market share EVs make, there have been lots of major fires. I think the tech here is not quite ready.

  304. David A says:

    HR says, “The raid is all just a fishing expedition.”

    Sundance is of the mind set that Trump has a great deal of the Durham investigation papers, ( not necessarily all classified at the time) and so yes, while a fishing expedition always, it was also a defensive push to find out what Trump really has and knows.

  305. another ian says:

    A deep dig at CTH

    “Part 1, Why Did the DOJ and FBI Execute the Raid on Trump – The Story Behind the Documents
    August 11, 2022 | sundance | 61 Comments”


    Part 2 also up, Part 3 on the way

  306. rhoda klapp says:

    If you had important documents that the feds want to take and you had several large properties in various countries, would you keep the stuff at your house? It’s an intimidation raid. But how they think they can intimidate that guy I cannot say.

  307. YMMV says:

    “But how they think they can intimidate that guy I cannot say.”

    Not just him. Everybody around him, and quite successfully.

  308. p.g.sharrow says:

    The Raid was all a part of framing Trump in advance of the elections to prevent him from qualifying for a place on the ballot. Garland said that this is a part of their prosecution effort. The actual papers are unimportant as the Trump organization was directed to cooperate with the Archive people all along.. And Trump had nothing to do with packing or removing those documents. This is about the Prosecution not any guilt or convictions. Just one more event in 6 years of Deep State GET TRUMP efforts.

  309. another ian says:

    “Why Red Meat Negative Health Claims are False”

    “Red meat is not unhealthy. It is belief of deceptive statistical practices and false claims from academic food researchers that are unhealthy.”

    More at


  310. another ian says:

    Latest covid update

    “CDC Says

    It’s over. Get back to normal.”

    More at


  311. another ian says:


    And in comments

    “Ah, but the CDC is an American institution. In Canada, the plague is still raging as there are far too many people who still have some degree of individual freedom. Once that’s “properly” dealt with, it’ll be over here as well. Just wait, both Prinz Dummkopf and Dr. Stick Insect will tell us so.”

    A loophole for tyrants in Oz. Comments also question the effect on the justification for mail-in ballots etc

  312. another ian says:

    That went with this –

    Latest covid update

    “CDC Says

    It’s over. Get back to normal.”

    More at


  313. another ian says:

    “9%+0%=9% not zero”

    “What has troubled me of late is that the American pseudo-government seems to think that after 9% inflation a 0% increase leaves you where you were. Actually it leaves you 9% behind [9+0=9%].

    Getting back to zero inflation doesn’t start you at scratch.”


  314. another ian says:

    Re red meat etc – what about the sacred cows?

    The plan for removing meat and dairy from our diets is very unclear -IMO. Around 30% of all cows are in India, more and although Hindus don’t eat meat because cows are a sacred animal, they drink milk. Non-Hindus in India do eat meat as well as consume dairy. If the green movement wants to remove meat and dairy from our diets then India would need to be their major global focus, being by far the biggest producer. However, I’ve never heard anyone in the green movement discuss the religious, cultural or dietary impacts of imposing this policy on the people of India. If India is not included in the plan then there would be no point in imposing the plan on smaller producers such as ourselves.


  315. another ian says:

    If anyone here is having a sleepless night have a go at


    And read the comments

  316. Simon Derricutt says:

    Trying to normalise Paedophilia by giving it a different name and then saying we shouldn’t discriminate against such people?
    Gets a bit worrying if this is allowed, since the next generation’s abusers tend to be those who were themselves abused as children. Come to think of it, the client-list of Jeffrey Epstein never was published, either. Maybe too many upstanding citizens in it who might get upset if they were exposed (some double-entendres in that sentence).

  317. another ian says:

    More in this arena

    “The Managing of DeSantis, Five Days in the Bunker and a New Press Secretary
    August 12, 2022 | Sundance | 509 Comments

    Bunker boy Ron DeSantis has completed five days of silence and is scheduled to re-emerge tomorrow in Arizona as part of the TPUSA national tour. Those of you who have walked the deep weeds of national politics, know exactly what is happening. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has entered the managing phase of the GOPe candidate process.”

    More at


  318. another ian says:

    You’ve been saved for a worser fate!


  319. H.R. says:

    Yesterday, while running errands, I pulled up behind a Tesla with the license plate “PA55GAS”” meant to be read as ‘Pass Gas’. “Yes sir! Right away. sir!” brrrrrrrttt

    I grinned. I told Mrs. H.R. about and she LOL’d.

    I don’t think someone thought that one through. 😉

    Meanwhile, in my State that Tesla is powered by:

    Nuclear 15%
    Coal 37.2%
    Natural Gas 44%
    Petroleum 0.9%
    Hydro 0.3%
    Geothermal 0.0%
    Solar PV 0.2%
    Wind 1.9%
    Biomass and Other 0.6%

    So that Tesla is running on 82.1% fossil fuel and only 2.1% wind and solar and that’s when the sun is shining and the breezes are blowing.

    I have little doubt that the driver is ignorant of all that while feeling quite virtuous.

  320. H.R. says:

    Aaaand further on Solar – I told you about my neighbor’s solar installation, which is pretty good for about 40N+/- where we are. I still don’t know if he also installed battery backup.

    Under current energy prices, electricity rates will “necessarily skyrocket” and they have already risen a good bit in my service area.

    At 2016 – 2020 electricity rates, I thought it might be a race condition between complete payback on his solar installation and panel failure.

    But at current rates, and with more hikes to come along with the possibility of blackouts from insufficient supply, my neighbor looks like he might be sitting pretty, and his payback will be even sooner than he was expecting. Well, so long as we don’t have a snowy Winter.

    I’d consider a solar panel install, but I could only put in about 3 panels that would do any good. Any more would just be placed somewhere that is shaded for parts of the day.

    We do have a due South wall-o-windows that provides passive heat in the Winter, but that’s no help in keeping the lights on and the refrigerator running during a power outage.

    I’ve seen a few other home rooftop solar installations around my area, and they have all been poorly done. The worst I saw was on the North side of the house and trees shade part of the panels in Summer. I saw another installation on a roof facing due West.

    That’s evidence that there’s some salesman in our area that could sell ice cubes to Eskimos.

  321. The True Nolan says:

    @H.R.: “The worst I saw was on the North side of the house and trees shade part of the panels in Summer.”

    Like you I see too many poorly sited solar installations. The absolute worse seem to be government installed locations where the crews were apparently told “I don’t care what the place looks like! Just point ’em due south and don’t argue!”

    I remember a row of panels installed on the boundary of a major military installation, maybe twenty feet north of tall trees, all the panels facing right into the trees, even shaded during the peak of summer. And panels along Interstate 10 in Florida, again in heavy woods. That location at least had a clear patch of sky in the afternoon, but the panels were (again) facing due south, and only getting sunshine for a couple hours in the late day.

    Grumble grumble grumble centralized authoritarian bean counting ^&*$#!! Our taxes at work!

  322. You see a lot of solar panels installed on houses in Steep alpine valleys in Germany and Switzerland. As soon as you get to end September the sun never goes above the surrounding mountains and the panels will get much reduced light until the following spring.

  323. rhoda klapp says:

    Neil Oliver again:

  324. another ian says:

    “Big Picture, Review all DC Activity from June 3rd with New Eyes
    August 13, 2022 | Sundance | 630 Comments”

    “With this timeline in mind, and knowing how the DC administrative deep state operates, all current evaluations must consider these dates carefully. Many people have puzzled over why the DOJ and FBI waited. Good question. However, the better question is…

    …What was DC doing between June 3 and August 8?”

    More at


  325. philjourdan says:

    FBI Says Baldwin Had to have pressed the trigger killing another. – https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/fbi-forensic-report-concludes-alec-baldwin-pulled-trigger-rust-set#&_intcmp=hp1r_1,hp1r

    Ok, I am convinced! Baldwin is innocent! I the FBI says it is so, it is a lie.

  326. another ian says:

    IMO this applies to a lot of things going on ATM

    Rex Murphy

    “To which I offer an axiom: Great ambitions are the most powerful seduction: the idea you are saving the planet allows full excuse to what you think you can do, but over which you have no command whatsoever.”


  327. another ian says:

    “An author using the name John Ross (which I’m told was a pseudonym, although I don’t know for sure) wrote a novel back in the 1990’s called “Unintended Consequences”. It dealt with the increasing overreach of the Federal government, particularly concerning firearms and gun rights, and described a citizen’s revolt against them. It was fiction, of course, but very heavily based on historical fact. It sold tens of thousands of copies in paper editions, but has been long out of print.”

    More at


  328. another ian says:

    More on covid and CDC et al

    “All of the Usual Suspects Were Wrong”


  329. jim2 says:

    Did Trump watch the raid?

    Bobb was asked about reports that the FBI demanded the CCTV cameras be turned off during the raid, in which boxes of records and photographs and thousands of documents were taken from the former president’s Florida residence.

    “They did,” Bobb said. “[Initially, the FBI] said ‘you have to turn off all the cameras’ and, of course, the staff complied.” She said the staff reported that to Trump’s attorneys, “and attorneys jumped in and said, ‘no, actually, you do not have to turn them off.’ So shortly thereafter they turned them back on.”


  330. another ian says:

    The Air Vent is posting again

    “this was the news in 2019, known to contain truckloads of information including classified presidential records from the Obama administration. Now the feds want you to believe it was declassified.”

    More at


  331. another ian says:

    Interesting times

    “House Democrats Refuse to Support Second Part of Manchin-Schumer Deal for Increased Energy Development and Permitting
    August 14, 2022 | Sundance | 9 Comments
    Looks like we are going to find out exactly what Joe Manchin’s leverage was over Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer {REMINDER HERE}.”

    More at


  332. philjourdan says:

    Bots versus real people. I think Musk is showing us that most of the INternet is BOTs. In my current position, I deal with bots versus bots. And I can tell you that most of the “social media” is bots. So yea, that is a bot and just ignore it. Bots are not real people, but a way for SM to jack up AD prices! And once that is exposed, watch a depression of AD revenue. Google is already feeling it. Folks are wising up that Google is doing Bots to increase ad revenue. Which any sane person knew long ago.

  333. philjourdan says:

    @beth the serf says:
    9 August 2022 at 11:37 am

    Re:Harry Truman. – thank you for that! He is the ONE (count on one finger ONE) democrat I truly respect (and that included JFK – I kind of like him, but to do respect him).

  334. another ian says:

    A form guide for you

    “Polio or Monkeypox: Which Virus Will the Left Use to Save Drop Boxes in November?”


    Via Jo Nova

  335. another ian says:

    And a project


    Build your own 1930s Grand Prix car using a single Mazda MX-5 donor.

    Get inspired to roll-up your sleeves at home, and at your own pace transform your MOT failure MX-5 into an F1 legend.”


  336. another ian says:


    I detect a hidden agenda here. It’s not just about increasing revenue collections. It’s about catching citizens in “crimes” against the gargantuan US tax code. As L. Beria reputedly said: “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime.”

    So what follows conviction of a federal crime, a nolo plea or an admission of guilt? Disqualification from gun ownership. In other words, a mass disarming of US citizens who pay taxes (but not enough). 2A bypassed and rendered irrelevant. Gun control and confiscation via the militarized IRS.

    -Mark Higdon-


  337. H.R. says:

    Unfortunately for the 87,000** new IRS agents, Trump raised the standard deduction so that most middle-class people don’t have high enough expenses to itemize. It’s people who itemize their deductions that will be most affected. That’s where you’ll find sketchy write-offs.

    Deductions for home offices have complicated weird rules and convoluted calculations. What with “muuuh… Covid” causing a few million people to work from home, that alone will provide fodder for a lot of audits.

    Ever since the standard deduction was raised, we don’t have enough expenses to itemize and deduct. Also, our sources of income are very straightforward. So, we have been taking the standard deduction. We’d only be non-compliant if we hit a wrong key on the calculator.

    **87,000?!? How’d they come up with that number? Lessee here… 87,000 agents divided by 50 States is 1,740 extra agents per State. I have no clue whether that’s too many or too few.

    North and South Dakota probably only need 3 extra agents for each State. I’m sure there are a few more States that don’t need an extra 1,740 agents. You can bet these agents won’t be horribly efficient given the track record of gub’mint employees. Why the 87,000 then?

  338. Ossqss says:

    When was the last time you looked at your app permissions, or google or apple for that matter, on your phone or laptop?

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  340. Ossqss says:

    Gotta check this, but it was an anomaly regardless of reanalysis.

  341. another ian says:

    Modern Microsoft gets a mention –

    “Iain Na Hearadh
    August 13, 2022 at 11:30 am · Reply
    The problem here is that highly trained energy workers won’t hang around when there is no viable working environment.
    So the first problem is finding qualified staff. Best of luck with that.

    That’s providing, like the Victorian Desalination plant, it has already been stripped of copper and other valuable items by thieves.

    The alternative coding nonsense is nonsense.
    As a long time Coder, I can tell you now there is no real money in it. Even large companies outsource to China, India or the Baltic states.

    The assumption is that they can do it cheaper. The reality, as just one working example, is Microsoft.
    Once the bulk of their coding went overseas, the first thing to get shut down was the Microsoft “Technet” service, then their Hardware and Software compatibility guides.
    The Web pages and forums have limped along since 2013, but then they were shutdown in 2020.

    The Microsoft “Technet” service was the “Reference” or the Bible of Microsoft support and service. You could look up the history of Microsoft products and the issues.
    The Hardware and Software compatibility guides gave a list of all products that had been tested with Wintel products.

    Now, the last thing left is a ridiculous Q@A forum. I’d give that a year or two.

    Unfortunately, in all instances, the entire quality of the product, as well as it’s stability has gone backwards. No more quality Documentation, no more compatibility guides, no more “Reference” guide.
    This problem isn’t restricted to Microsoft, and isn’t just restricted to Coding.
    The entire Information Technology and related industrial Food Chain has gone backwards over the last thirty years.

    So, even if they could find anybody willing to work in any EU Nuclear power plant, I could bet you Dollars to Doughnuts that the power source is going to be Diesel engines.”


  342. philjourdan says:

    @H.R. – I use standard deduction since Trump raised it and I payed off my mortgage. But I also have a side business. I barely make a profit (as I work for non-profits) so have not taken an Office Deduction since 2019. Before the democrat bat shit flu.

    I suppose they can come after me on the principal that I have not made a profit in 3 years (I have not charged clients for time, only materials since the Bat Shit Wu Flu started).

    SO yea I am going to get audited. And the result? They owe me! Because I did not use the home office deduction!

  343. philjourdan says:

    @OssQss – I do not load apps. I use my phone for calls, and directions. And I have my favorite radio stations web sites bookmarked. Apps? FU them! NO APPS

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