Why Is The Democratic Party So Pro-Criminal?

We in the USA are having another one of our Political Food Fights by the “Children In Suits” we call politicians. These CIS want to prance around and have tantrums instead of making anything or making any organization actually work better. OK, I got that.

What I don’t get is the reason the Democratic Party of the USA has decided that championing criminal activity is a good thing.

Some anchors in verbiage

First, since they like to corrupt language, a few definitions:

Illegal: If the law says something is not allowed, to do it is illegal.

Criminal: A person who does something illegal.

Alien: A person not a citizen of a particular country they are visiting or living in. (My Mum was one for many years).

Illegal Alien: Could also accurately be stated as “criminal alien”. A person living in a country without the required legal paperwork. They are committing a crime and they are doing something illegal so in English you just compound the modifier with the noun. Just like “white male”.

(And yes, Virginia, a person can be illegal…)

Just as an aside, I have done illegal things often and I have been technically a criminal on many occasions. This is true of substantially everyone. I regularly drive 9 MPH over the speed limit. That is an illegal act. I’ve also consumed recreational drugs (mostly when in college for a couple of years) when Marijuana was illegal in California – that made me a “criminal element” in those days. So saying “illegal” or “criminal” does not necessarily mean hardened drug lord ax murdering child molester kidnapper. OK?

The Dims vs Dems

I’m prone to using the coined word “Dimocrat” for those Democrats who are most dim. That seems to be most of the Democratic Party Leadership, for starters, and then the folks like Antifa who do mayhem on demand. I am NOT disparaging ALL Democrats when I use that term. About 1/2 my family and friends are Democrats (or Bernie supporters) and we’re fine with that.

I’m a registered Independent who voted for Bernie in the primaries because the corruption of Madam Hillary made me want to vomit.

I’ve also used the term “Republicrim” for those Republicans who have been most prone to corruption in government. Yet I voted for Trump in the final round of elections (and voted for Reagan and others). I vote for what is right and for who can get the job done.

Both parties have “sin”, and I use the coined terms to denote those “sinners”. Yet both parties have many good and honorable folks in them doing a good and honest job. They just need to take back their parties.

The Dims Support For Criminals

Which brings me to the question posed in the title:

WHY is the Democratic party so fired up with the love of Criminals?

They are willing and happy to shut down the Federal Government over it. At present, we are in a Government Shutdown because Little Chucky Schumer and fellow Dimocrats can’t stand the idea of law enforcement. Go figure.

We’ve got some 10 to 12 million illegal aliens in our country. The exact number isn’t known as the Dimocrats don’t want it known. Now they’ve tried to chop that number up into “Special” groups that need “Special” sob story solutions. “Dreamers” and such. We get the bleat “NOONE will EVER deport 10 Million People!”. Well why not?

Look, I grew up with illegal aliens. My Best Friend’s Dad was likely an illegal. Only citizenship papers he had was a railroad retirement card. His personal story was he “Rode with Pancho Villa” and just crossed the border on horseback when he retired from that job… He was 70 something in the 1960s so about the right age; looked the part and had the attitude too. But moved to California with his much younger wife and worked the railroad.

Many times “cousins” would visit. At about 12 years old, the Eee-Ennn-Essay (INS) truck was seen down the street and all the “cousins” bugged out the back door. I got up to run with them and “Mama” informed me I was different and had no reason to play dodge the trucke verde (green truck). That was the first time I felt “different”. So yeah, I know that life style intimately having spent 1/2 my time at my friends home and seeing “Papa” hand over his retirement card and say “no passport, live here before papers”. (In those days many older people didn’t have ANY papers or even a birth certificate)

So no crying in the soup about it and no asserting I don’t know what it’s like or what it’s all about. There was a clear fear aspect, but there was also a very clear “Screw them – I’m going to do it illegally” aspect as well. A clear willingness to break the law and knowingly. These were not dumb folks, they knew exactly what they were doing.

So OK, we’ve got a load of kids brought in by their parents who are not “illegal by choice”. So what? Their parents made a bad decision. Like deciding to circumcise your kid, there are no “backsees” when the kid decides they don’t like that. The kids were conceived and born without their buy-in too. Their first language and what is spoken in the home were done without their concent. What foods they ate were chosen for them too. So am I supposed to be making special accommodations for every circumcised fat kid who doesn’t speak English well? “Life is a bitch and then you die.” Get over yourself.

I get it that they want a sob story. I get it that they want to look like Savior of the Innocent. What I don’t get is wanting that soooo much they will tell all the actual US Citizens “Screw You!”.

Is it just the $Billions of Soros Money coming with strings as he wants to destroy America?

Is it just the calculus of packing the voting booth with new Democratic Voters (even without citizenship…)?

Is it just the Identity Politics Fraud of divide and conquer, but where they can’t divide real Americans so want to import someone different?

(That one doesn’t work very well as the 2nd generation is pretty much Standard Americans. My best friend went into the Navy and generally leaned conservative. So did his brother. I’m 2nd generation immigrant on my Mum’s side.)

Is it just Media Hound Schumer tactics? Anything that gets you in the spotlight on camera is good, even supporting criminals?

I really don’t get it. The sheer obvious immorality of supporting criminal acts when their JOB is to make laws and enforce them and they can change the laws as desired and neccessary; just looks crazy to me.

If anyone can ‘splain it to me, I’d be thankful. If anyone wants to just bat it around, I’d be entertained ;-)

Oh, and if anyone actually notices that the government is shut down, AND it is a bad thing, I’d be interested in knowing. All the prior shutdowns didn’t seem to do a damn thing that was bad, other than the “show stuff” of on camera closing tourist monuments. Maybe we can just keep it shut down for a few years and see if anyone really notices the lack of “Government Services”. I found it funny that one Lame Stream Media source was crying that the IRS was even going to be shut down and it was already understaffed to deal with the tax code changes. IRS Shutdown? Beer is on me!

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About E.M.Smith

A technical managerial sort interested in things from Stonehenge to computer science. My present "hot buttons' are the mythology of Climate Change and ancient metrology; but things change...
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81 Responses to Why Is The Democratic Party So Pro-Criminal?

  1. Mike Goad says:

    It wasn’t just “show stuff” of closing tourist monuments. National parks, monuments and recreation areas were closed. For the traveling public, this disrupted travel plans and lodging plans with campgrounds and other lodging closed, with those already in the parks required to leave. The shutdown furloughed 16 staffers at Craters of the Moon National Monument and Preserve in Idaho and, a week into the search, hampered efforts to find a hiker reported missing. (The hiker was probably already dead, but the weather, while chilly, was survivable, so her death was not a given on October 1, 2013. I’m somewhat familiar with the area as we lived in the closest town, Arco, in the 1970s.) While the park subsequently received special permission to retain 10 of the 16, the government shutdown made it difficult for park employees to continue to access federal equipment and resources. The deaths of the hiker and her friend, whose body had been found before the shutdown, are the first hiker deaths in Craters history, even with 200,000 visitors a year. That is absolutely amazing to me as the terrain there can be very unforgiving, especially if the weather (not climate) turns while one is out in the lava fields.

    http://magicvalley.com/news/local/probing-hiker-deaths-and-craters-of-the-moon-safety/article_26715006-ae8b-5f05-88c0-db89ef906f40.html

  2. docfnc says:

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    The ad, titled “Complicit ,” profiles an illegal immigrant on trial for the murder of two Sacramento police officers who stated his “only regret” is that he “just killed two” and that he wished he “killed more.” It contrasts Democrats, who stand by those who commit acts of “pure evil,” versus President Trump, who was elected to build a wall to stop illegal immigration and keep American families safe.

    The Trump Campaign released the ad on the one-year anniversary of Donald Trump’s Inauguration as the 45th President of the United States. The powerful new ad reflects the stakes in the illegal immigration debate, and the reasons why the President will not allow the Schumer Shutdown to force his hand and grant amnesty for illegal immigrants.

    “Donald Trump was elected President to build the wall and keep American families safe from evil, illegal immigrants who commit violent crimes against lawful U.S. citizens,” said Michael S. Glassner, Executive Director of Donald J. Trump for President, Inc. “Yet, one year after President Trump’s Inauguration, Chuck Schumer and the Democrats continue to put the interests of illegal immigrants over those of Americans. Our new campaign ad draws attention to the stark contrast between ‘complicit’ Democrats and the President for his full commitment to build a wall and fix our border to protect Americans from drugs, murder and other atrocities,” he concluded.

    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/democrats-complicit-in-all-murders-by-illegal-immigrants

  3. jim2 says:

    It’s well known that Obummer did everything he could think of to make the gov. shutdown on his watch as painful to US citizens as possible – the asshole.

  4. Another Ian says:

    E.M.

    Around this area

    “A Brief History Of Congressional Armeggedon”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2018/01/a-brief-history-1.html

  5. jim2 says:

    I put stock in the idea the dimowits want more poor voters who will depend on the government and, therefore, dimowits.

    On a side-note, what’s really difficult for me to explain is why the EU wants more people from terrorist countries. Or, even why more Muslims? Their approach to government and life does not comport will with ours, as far as I can tell.

  6. Glenn999 says:

    Democrat leadership is banking on the MSM to keep the leftie masses misinformed and blame Trump for everything. The FISA memo is scaring the crap out of the Dem leaders; they don’t want it released and many have said they won’t read it. Imagine if the memo was exposing Repub wrongdoing? By orchestrating the shutdown now, they hope the media will focus on the fake reasons for a shutdown, and keep the FISA memo reports out of the headlines.

    And of course longterm, Dems need new voters since they have lost so many to the Trumpster. Bring in as many illegals and migrants as you can, and with chain migration, bring in scores more.

  7. John F. Hultquist says:

    The last time (2013) the Gov. shut down they had to put barricades across various entrances. I was scheduled to work on a trail and the U. S. Forest Service (FS) sent a truck to close off the entrances to their roads.
    We rescheduled and went to work at a county park.
    The USFS has a lot of roads. The had to load and place a gazillion barriers and a few days later they had to undo what they just did. At the time I saw a news report from Mount Rushmore with park folks doing a similar thing.
    Meanwhile, our volunteers had selected non-federal trails to work on. Thus, it took another couple of weeks to get back on to FS lands.
    Families that are traveling, for vacations and so on, do not appreciate these silly maneuvers. Everyone knows these federal workers are going to get paid for inconveniencing the people they are supposed to be serving.

    Every time these things happen there are a few more of us that dislike the congress critters. They are elected — and paid well with perks — to do a job. Failure should not be one of the options.

  8. Another Ian says:


    When The FBI Does It, That Means That It’s Not Illegal”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2018/01/when-the-fbi-do-2.html

  9. aashfield says:

    EMS,
    I think you picked a bad example with the Dreamers. You might as well say all bastards should be in prison. If they have been here most of their lives without getting into trouble and they know nothing of their native country, it is inhumane to send them there and break up whatever family they have here. The fault is the sloppy procedures that allowed them to arrive in the first place.

    I’m not a fan of the America criminal justice system and think there are many far more important things for the police to attend to.
    .

  10. Larry Ledwick says:

    I think that there are a couple of elements here:
    The Democrats hark back to the 1960’s et al where they have systematically “Deified criminals” “protesting the system”. They have as long as I can remember held these folks up as noble acts of courage to protest government excesses.

    Che Guevara was not a psychotic sadist who enjoyed executing political prisoners, he was a glorious revolutionary.over throwing the evil dictator.

    The list is long
    Abby Hoffman, Jerry Rubin,Tom Hayden, Bobby Seale, David Dellinger and Rennie Davis, (Chicago Seven) , Bill Ayers, Bernadette Dohrn

    Weather Underground, the New World Liberation Front and the Symbionese Liberation Army, Puerto Rican nationalists set off hundreds of bombs during the 1960’s and 1970’s

    So on one hand you have a long infatuation with radical revolutionaries – this bred a culture of apologists for their crimes “for the greater good”. It became fashionable on the left to break laws and be outrageous. The democratic leaders of today grew up and made their revolutionary bones during that period. Attorney General Eric Holder was one of a group of students who occupied offices of ROTC at Columbia University.

    Their situational ethics provide them an escape clause in that they see no crime if it is a strike against “the man” or “the system”

    Second as advocates of big government the more hate and discontent that they can create the more need they can demonstrate for an oppressive left wing government (note oppressive right wing governments are “they system” and “the man” Democratic leaders get a pass on being oppressive, as they are just trying to bring order to the chaos that they created.

    The Leftist Elites feel that they are protected from the violence they are importing (not going to happen in their walled and guarded neighborhoods), and if it does it was a failure or the system and the repressive actions of the right that caused it.

    I think there is a very clear cognitive break in the Left where they compartment things and look at them through the approved PC colored glasses and simply are blind to the reality. Their biases are so strong that they simply tune out conflicting data.

    The useful fools in the street are largely ignorant of the reality because they only view and listen to approved propaganda outlets like CNN, MSNBC, Progress Now, Southern Poverty Law Center. Occupy Democrats etc. who push nothing but agenda driven propaganda that feeds the Leftist narrative. They surround themselves with others of the same view and think that “all right thinking people” agree with them and that “They are on the right side of history” when in fact they are the seed from which is spawned the most oppressive governments the world has ever know in modern times.

    I think some of the Leftist Elites like Pelosi and Schumer consciously know that they are destroying the country, but that is okay, because ” their ideal country ” is nothing like what the crossover country or the founding fathers had in mind when they talk about making America Great again.

    They are like the Sociopathic used car salesman who will happily sell a used car that is about to break down to a sweet little grandmother who is using her entire retirement fund to buy the car, and not bat an eye because they see her as a fool and prey, not as a person. Or the investment broker who will sell shares in a flooded swap to someone looking for a retirement home. They really are true sociopaths, and simply do not care about others as long as it advances their own agenda, because they are smarter, and more worthy that those other peons.

    They know that these folks will create chaos and a huge pool of dependent barely literate serfs for them to rule and tax to death just as soon as they make it impossible for them to strike out at their corrupt leaders by closing every path to confront their corruption.

    I used to think they were stupid and deluded, but I have changed my mind – at the very top they know full well what they are doing (with the possible exception of moon bats like Jerry Brown).
    I am absolutely convinced that Obama, and Clintons both with knowledge and forethought do what ever it takes to break the system in a manner that benefits themselves.

  11. pouncer says:

    “(And yes, Virginia, a person can be [an] illegal…)”

    The professionals who quibble that no human being can be reduced to “an illegal” (on the grounds that a human being is a noun, and can never be just an adjective) but then write and opine about criminals, evangelicals, millennials, deplorables, un-employables, upwardly-mobiles, intellectuals, menials, and of course liberals, have revealed themselves to be of the class of politicals, and not of the class of grammaticals.

  12. JP Miller says:

    Aashfield says, “If they have been here most of their lives without getting into trouble and they know nothing of their native country, it is inhumane to send them there and break up whatever family they have here. The fault is the sloppy procedures that allowed them to arrive in the first place.”

    First, your last point. The fault is in the Dreamers’ parents who brought them here.

    Next, “inhumane”? Unfortunate, difficult I will agree. Inhumane? Get a grip. People have to deal with all sorts of bad stuff out of their control for which they bear no responsibility and yet have to learn how to deal with it and do the best they can despite all. That includes bad decisions by parents.

    If a Dreamer is was brought here when she was 2 and now she’s 12 and her parents are deported, should she be allowed to stay with her (legal immigrant) aunt and husband? Why? What about if the Dreamer is now 17? 24?

    The rule of law is important and to intentionally say, “nevermind” does harm to justice. And, when justice is undermined, society begins to weaken. After all, one of the PRIMARY purposes of government is to maintain the integrity of citizenship. It has meaning and consequences. Fundamental. Important. Consequences.

  13. E.M.Smith says:

    My neighbors are from Japan. Their daughters are growing up in an American school. They started kindergarten here a couple of years ago. “Whenever” Dad’s assignment here for his multinational Japanese company comes to an end and the family “Goes Home”:

    Will it be “inhumane” for those children to be sent “home” with their parents to a country “they have never known”? Is it inhumane to put them suddenly into submersive Japanese in school in Japan after ALL their schooling has been in English?

    It is simply a fallacy that it is harmful to shift countries, cultures, and languages. My Mother was from a foreign country. My Fathers Mother spoke German (Amish German so different even at that) and his Dad grew up with Gaelic at home. I can make a fair case that my Mother’s English is not the American I grew up around (given the many perplexities I ran into as a second hand speaker of Proper English).

    IF it is wrong and immoral to send those kids back to their native country, then it is wrong and immoral to allow immigrants to drag their kids here from foreign countries.

  14. Larry Ledwick says:

    I think the trick is to deport them but make it no harm no foul, and if they apply properly and legally immigrate they can come back to the US.

    Secondly they have an advantage over their native country residents they will have native english language skills which should make them very employable in the resort industry and government or large corporations that do business with the english speaking world.

    Turn your lemons into lemonade!

  15. John Robertson says:

    Could be the answer is as old as human society.
    The endless competition between the takers and the makers.
    By playing productive people off against each other the freeloader is able to loot with good cover.

    The modern state has devolved into Kleptocracy in my opinion, if the leaders are thieves and write the “laws” to support their stealing, who is to say it is illegal?

    Your Democrats, our Liberals both have cloaked their actions with names that they are not, however they both refer to themselves as progressives.
    They both thrive on identity politics, complete dishonesty and endless projection..preying on the ignorant and distracted.
    Both are ardent supporters of government control of education,health and morality..and taxing life itself.
    However,,I do not exclude the possibility of evil.
    Evil people exist, they too seek strength in numbers.
    When a group of people embrace actions that logically lead to societal collapse and seek to undermine the structures that bind a nation together..or in these Progressives case, abandon the citizen to embrace the invader, stupid and greedy is evil..
    I am coming around to this view of my progressive comrades.
    If you speak evil,act evil and protect evil, what conclusion should a rational person draw?

  16. John F. Hultquist says:

    I’m more of a fix the border issue, that is, security of our Nation’s borders.
    At the same time kick out the known crooks and trouble makers.
    For others, I an not in favor of forcing millions out and suggesting they start doing paperwork to get back in.
    The USA should try to do better. Got to run. Bye.

  17. Power Grab says:

    Allowing the illegal immigrants to stay and create havoc creates greater job security for legal beagles and their buddies. Somewhere I read that prisons are a growth industry. One time when my ex got into hot water, it was revealed that one doesn’t get out of that hot water without spending lots of moolah, etc. That’s how the game is played.

    We used to hear from our preacher that there was once a time of revival in England where judges were called “white glove judges” because crime has been reduced so much that the judges had no cases to try. I reckon our legal beagles don’t want that to happen on this side of the pond!

    Allowing people to stay who can’t support themselves is something money lenders can profit from (my eyes were opened to that reality when I read the book “War Cycles Peace Cycles”). One principle that’s repeated in that book is that every so often, the money lenders need a new class of borrowers.

    I read a comment from a mom who is an illegal immigrant that 40% of what they spend here is borrowed money.

    One of my personal observations about life is that scared people spend more money than content people. If TPTB can keep the general population anxious about their security, then they can induce them to spend more money on … well, use your imagination!

    It sure seems to me that ever since the mid-1960’s (at least) there is a concerted effort on the part of TPTB to promote lifestyles that don’t build anything lasting (families, homes, businesses, etc.) Not only that, but the people who are trying to build things that benefit not just themselves, but also others they may never know, are those who are most likely to be vilified in the MSM and entertainment industry.

    Last night they broadcast “Breakfast at Tiffany’s” and I pretty much watched it straight through. I never had done that before. It’s not my favorite kind of flick. I was repeatedly annoyed by how they glamorized destructive lifestyles by filling the screen with lots of beautiful people doing destructive things. The only non-beautiful person (Buddy Ebsen) was the one who tried to persuade his wife to return home with him.

    As for bankers (money lenders), a couple of movies come to mind: “It’s a Wonderful Life” and “Mary Poppins”. Even though bankers like to present themselves as pillars of the community, IMHO it’s just another marketing campaign.

    As for Soros and his politics and money, I keep wondering if people don’t keep playing his game because he’s convinced them they will profit from it. But don’t the communists promise the world to their useful idiots, and then eliminate them when they take power?

  18. M Simon says:

    Prohibition always gives law enforcement a bad name. The dims are just trying to take advantage.

    Prohibition makes some people reflexively anti law enforcement.

    The hangover from Alcohol Prohibition lasted 20 years socially and maybe 60 years politically. We were starting to get over it in the late 60s – and then we got Nixon.

    Funny enough Republicans are repeating the mistake (they were among the last to give up on Alcohol Prohibition). Really clever fellows with a deep understanding of history. So they tell us.

  19. Larry Ledwick says:

    An interesting coincidence of discovery related to this thread.

    From twitter:
    NAPOLEON LEGAL‏
    @Napoleonlegal

    The Fabian Communists are growing ever closer to heating up their war on traditional Americans and will soon no longer be card carrying Fabians, but barn burning, killers who will stop at nothing……that is…….till they are stopped. THE BLACK BOOK OF COMMUNISM

    Which triggered me to do some searching – – –

    http://progressingamerica.blogspot.com/2012/04/are-fabian-socialists-as-dangerous-as.html

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2012/05/never_call_socialism_by_its_right_name.html

  20. M Simon says:

    So lets see.

    Republicans empower criminals with laws (pretending to attack them) and Democrats celebrate criminals.

    Both parties empower criminals. And people are convinced that one party (theirs) is moral and the other party is not.

    What a country.

  21. M Simon says:

    Larry Ledwick says:
    22 January 2018 at 7:30 am

    The Communists prey on injustice. The answer to that is to reduce injustice.

    The Communists have trouble gaining traction where injustice is rare.

  22. M Simon says:

    Let me add that Prohibition makes a country lawless. It happened to the Soviets. Why not America too?

    “I committed 3 felonies yesterday and 5 today. Why not try a few others?”

    It only takes 1% or 2% of the people violating a major law for law itself to become untenable. We know this from history.

  23. beththeserf says:

    John Robertson says:
    ‘Your Democrats, our Liberals both have cloaked their actions with names
    that they are not, however they both refer to themselves as progressives.
    They both thrive on identity politics, complete dishonesty and endless
    projection..preying on the ignorant and distracted.’

    Agree, identity politics, so tricky, seeming to support individual liberty but
    really fostering mini-collectives and hostility to the necessary tolerance of
    live and let live, under ‘rule of law for all, functioning democracies…
    Just another imposition of hierarchies on socially mobile open society by
    would be philosopher kings, like Soros, (Plato, Hegel, Marx , and those
    Deep State pervertors of checks and balances that underpin our freedoms.

  24. Gary says:

    E.M. ==> Simple answer: the Dims want to be the rooster crowing on the dunghill — only they don’t see it as a dunghill. It *IS* irrational to devastate the territory you’re trying to conquer and expect it will be productive enough to support you when you consolidate power. But that’s the historical pattern and these folks are no different from their power-lusting predecessors. The progressives would be much more likely to prevail long term were they to merge their social aims with the way the world actually works (free enterprise and human nature), but they’re locked into their history of denying the truth of both and a yearning to control both. So when/if they finally “win” their victory will be empty of that which must sustain it. Either they can’t or won’t understand that because “This time will be different….”

  25. cdquarles says:

    Dims are religious zealots. The problem is that their faith is vain. Once some or enough people fill their heads with “My friends and I are natural aristocrats”, things go down hill from there due to human nature.

    God (yes He exists because He must by logical necessity) => Man => Corporations (family, civic institutions, commercial institutions, and governments).

    I have to agree with M. Simon about statutory prohibition of vices (regardless of which one) versus evil acts (rape, robbery, murder, stealing, cheating … all of which involve lying to varying degrees) against the will of others. Make the latter known as shameful as well as crimes. Make the former known as shameful only.

  26. philjourdan says:

    Re: Noticing Government shut down.

    Watch “Deadliest Catch” (Discovery) from the 2014 season for who is impacted. Granted not a lot, but Obama wanted it to be painful.

    And I have never had an answer to the question posed to little Chuckie – Are Kate Steinle’s dreams less important than illegal alien dreams?

    And finally – we are still more conservative in California. We only get 5 over the speed limit. :-)

  27. philjourdan says:

    @ Glenn999 says:
    21 January 2018 at 8:14 pm

    I had the same thought. The shutdown is over nothing really. Democrats already demanded a “clean” DACA bill, so attaching it to a CR is not making it clean. But it has ensured the FISA memo is off the front pages – even on the conservative sites for now.

  28. E.M.Smith says:

    @Simon:

    I once figured I had been in continuous commission of a felony every day for several years. Something like a half dozen.

    What was it?

    When moving, I found an old tin 35mm film can that rattled. It was buried in the back of a drawer. In it were a few MJ seeds from many years prior… At that time, possession with intent to grow was a felony. and what else could seeds be used for?….

    Another time, at work, I was gathering evidence… and realized doing my job had made me a felon. I had saved some underage porn pictures to confront an employee about their internet use…

    That was the moment I realized laws were all about making everyone a criminal, then doing selective enforcement.

    This is why I am adamantly against any “possession” laws. Possession has no intent, and without intent you can not know the act was really criminal.

    Another time, to spit in the eye of a law criminalizing possession of bomb making ingredients and materials, I posted a list of pipe parts, sulfur dust, charcoal, and stump remover suited to making a bomb and available at specific hardware stores, then asked if those store managers would be arrested. Since I can turn a house into a bomb with the gas line and a candle, does my home make me a felon? Technically, yes. It has gas service and the heater has a pilot light. Open gas line in the kitchen and just leave…that’s all it takes. So how many folks have gas service? They are ALL in possession of “bomb making materials”. In theory, that added 30 years to my continuous commission of a felony time…

    In support of your notion: Yes, realizing I’m forced to be a continuous felon by simply living in my home does cause me to not give a damn about breaking traffic laws and other “silly laws”. It has been at least 40 years of most folks I know not giving a damn about grass and coke laws; and that corrodes their care about all laws.

    Perhaps that’s the goal. Turn law “enforcement” into a malleable political tool.

    @Gary:

    Interesting point.

    Much of history is some Evil Bastard driving any army over others to take their stuff but just destroying it in the process. Just look at Iraq and Syria and the Islamic State. Destroy the city in order to save it, indeed.

    Images of “victorious” flags planted on rubble heaps…

    @Phil:

    RT had a story on the memo…

    Said all the House Repubs got to see it, but only one Dem and only in a clean room. Claimed it rattled the Dem as it showed the ‘Russia did it’ thing was cooked up by Hillary and Obama and was bogus and the ‘probe’ by Muller ought to be halted. Why I watch them: they spit in the eye of the domestic control system. Might be Russian spin / propaganda; but it shows where the hidden story sits.

  29. agimarc says:

    Been in and around the military for 40 years. Went thru many, many shutdowns. The 2013 shutdown was the first time anyone ever screwed around with the military commissary system, simply out of pure cussedness. It was intentionally aimed at military members and their families, but the people it hurt the worst were the employees.

    Every agency has a contingency fund available for spending in the event of a shutdown. It is built into their yearly budget. The O’Bama Rules of Engagement for 2013 did not allow any agency to touch that money, leading directly to a hard shutdown. They intentionally did a bunch of other stuff to twist the knife in the body politic, maximizing the pain. All other shutdowns including this one allows the use of contingency funds, which is why it has been mostly transparent. Cheers –

  30. gallopingcamel says:

    My wife and I are legal immigrants. I came in on a “Green Card” in 1982 and it took me another 11 years to become “Legal”. The US immigration system treated me badly given that the five year clock was restarted because my company posted me to Belgium for a year. Nevertheless I sucked it up while uttering a few epithets.

    I would like to see a system that can approve/deny immigration petitions within months rather than years based on a “Points System” weighted in favor of people who can contribute to the economy rather than require “Support” from the government. Race and religion should not be significant factors. My immediate family such as wife and children should only be allowed if I could prove my ability to support them. Any naturalization for me or my family should be void if I failed to meet my obligations to support my family for at least five years.

    The issue of “Asylum” should be completely separate.

  31. gallopingcamel says:

    @agimarc,
    Your description of the 2013 shutdown supports the contention that Obama deliberately “Weaponized” the shutdown. It appears that the Trump administration will do the exact opposite to minimize the impact.

  32. philjourdan says:

    @E.M. That was the moment I realized laws were all about making everyone a criminal, then doing selective enforcement.

    I had that “epiphany” about 10 years ago. About the time that Scooter and Martha were run out of town on a rail. No underlying crime, but they went to jail.

    That most people do not realize that is the greatest scandal.

  33. cdquarles says:

    I had that epiphany many years ago. When I looked into how “addiction” was defined and that it had changed over the years, particularly post the ‘progressive’ Harrison narcotic acts followed by alcohol prohibition, back in the 1980s, I started reading the US Code. Please people, go read Title 18. (NB, there’s more to it than just Title 18, but that title is where most Federal crimes in the USA are defined)

  34. D. J. Hawkins says:

    Lest anyone weep for the employees now on furlough, if the pattern holds true, they will all receive every nickel of back pay when normal operations resume.

  35. cdquarles says:

    For those who may not have read these books, I highly recommend them: We the Living, The Fountainhead, and Atlas Shrugged. You’ll gain some insight into what the Democrats/autocrats/progressives want philosophically. {Discount the take on religion. Humans are not just animals. We do not live by bread alone. Faith is trustworthy knowledge of things you can’t know any other way. The key is putting your faith on things that are not vain.}

  36. Zeke says:

    President Trump says,
    “Great to see how hard Republicans are fighting for our Military and Safety at the Border. The Dems just want illegal immigrants to pour into our nation unchecked. If stalemate continues, Republicans should go to 51% (Nuclear Option) and vote on real, long term budget, no C.R.’s!”

    That is a nice idea, pass a budget right now, not a continuing resolution.

  37. Zeke says:

    The idea is to outlaw good and decent people, and de-criminalize the criminals. For example, a guy on drugs breaks in and steals 1999 dollars worth of stuff. Moonbeam voters solution: Make it a misdemeanor, and have no record of the fact that he was on drugs. No record, no offense, no rap sheet, no connection between criminal behavior and drug use. Paradise in California, coming up.

    They are two sides of the same coin, legalizing crime and criminalizing decent people.

    Next is going after parents who don’t send their kids to gov’t day camps, don’t put them on drugs, don’t want them to use drugs, and who would never allow the schools to put them on psychotropics or gender bender hormones. These are the people who will get criminalized. Trudeau in Canada promised you Cannabis, and is now calling it “child abuse” not to give kids hormones to change expression of genetic traits. (I would argue that is maiming a child physically and abusing them psychologically.)

    Did you know that one of the definitions of genocide is removing the children of one group, and giving them to another?

  38. Serioso says:

    I can give Mr. Smith a one-word answer to his question: Compassion.
    There’s another one-word answer: Empathy.

  39. philjourdan says:

    But no compassion for the victims.

    And empathy is from those who have been there. Guess that tells us all we need to know about democrats.

  40. Ian W says:

    These ‘dreamers are anchor children for entire families and relatives. They were deliberately integrated in a way other illegal immigrants tend not to. The entire intent is to use the unwillingness to deport ‘children brought here through no fault of their own, to allow them citizenship. The first thing they do is regularize the status of their illegal immigrant parents, then import their extended family.
    I would give them ‘blue ‘ cards. Identical to green cards for residence but _no_ path to citizenship until 15 year residence, which means no right to vote for a minimum of 15 years. But the poor dears would not be deported, unless they broke any of the blue card rules, which same as green card require no criminal acts and remaining self supporting.

  41. DonM says:

    Seems that Gary is right (2:28, Jan 22),

    Pelosi, Schumer, Obama, Satan, Hillary, & Charles Manson;

    Given the choice they all would all rather be king or queen of a big steaming pile of shit, rather than be a equal member of a free (near utopian) society.

    For people like them I used to wonder … Are they stupid/ignorant or are they evil? I guess it’s neither, and somehow it’s both (with a big batch of “I’m entitled” mixed in).

  42. DonM says:

    … almost forget.

    Ian W, I see absolutely nothing wrong with your suggestion. Fantastic base/place to start. Keep repeating it (and let the fringe look bad by rationalizing some sort of flaws).

  43. catweazle666 says:

    “Are they stupid/ignorant or are they evil?”

    How about both – or rather, all three?

  44. jim2 says:

    Yep. The Dimowits won’t live in the same neighborhoods as the Islamic Terrorists.

  45. jim2 says:

    Sweet dreams of FBI memos, everyone! Night.

  46. akaLogic says:

    It’s not a question of the Democrats being for illegal immigration. It’s a question of them trying to create another group they can cast as victims to exploit

  47. Another Ian says:

    “Privilege Checks And All-Gender Restrooms And Preferred Pronouns ”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2018/01/your-privilege-.html#comments

  48. Tom Harley says:

    From what I have read lately, but not in the media, many of the Dems are not just supporting criminals, they are criminals. The memo has just a part of the story.

  49. Glenn999 says:

    Thanks Phil
    Dems always try to claim the moral high ground and how they are the compassionate ones; always looking out for the little guy. But their compassion doesn’t go both ways; it’s only pulled out if it suits their propaganda.

  50. E.M.Smith says:

    Anyone seen anything new (i.e. more actual information) about the FBI memo?

    Is it time to start calling it “Memo-Gate” yet?

  51. Larry Ledwick says:

    The other day I saw a comment that they were engaged in a long slow process to get it released in a manner that President Trump did not have to force the unclassification, as that would be seen as purely partisan.
    They said it would take about 19 days to work through that process.

    I have not poked around on it yet today so don’t know what the most recent info is yet.

  52. Larry Ledwick says:

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-whats-next-in-the-investigation-of-those-missing-fbi-texts/article/2646770

    This tells you all you need to know about this mess – the message has gone out to the propaganda outlets to blackhole this controversy.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/26212/boom-attorney-general-sessions-orders-probe-joseph-curl

    Interesting question:
    ==========================
    Sebastian Gorka DrG
    ‏@SebGorka
    2 hours ago
    How does Peter Strzok afford Harvey Weinstein’s lawyer David Boies – one of the most expensive in DC – on @FBI salary?

    Boies is from same firm as Karen Dunn who was slated to become Hillary’s @WhiteHouse Counsel had she defeated @realDonaldTrump.
    =========================
    Regarding the memo:
    Or you can leak it ;)

    https://www.infowars.com/exclusive-infowars-releases-secret-fisa-memo/

  53. pouncer says:

    “Dim” indeed.

    Dallas GOP files lawsuit insisting state enforce election law — Journalists and Democrats appalled!

    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2018-elections/2018/01/21/dallas-county-republicans-file-lawsuit-kick-128-democrats-election-ballot

    “The lawsuit, filed in Dallas County late Friday, contends that Dallas County Democratic Party chairwoman Carol Donovan didn’t sign the petitions of 128 Democratic Party candidates before sending them to the Texas secretary of state’s office, as required by law.
    “The Election Code says the chairman, and nobody else, has to sign them,” said Elizabeth Alvarez Bingham, a lawyer for the Dallas County Republican Party. “Carol Donovan is the chair. She was supposed to sign them. She didn’t do it.”

    “Donovan didn’t address the lawsuit directly, leaving that to the party’s lawyer, Sarah Duncan.
    ‘Lord knows exactly what the Republicans want, to distract us, to divide us,’ Donovan said”

  54. Larry Ledwick says:

    This may not be the actual memo, but a pre-existing document that has been available on line for some time here :

    https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf

    It does hint at the methods that supposedly were used to improperly gather info on us persons by targeting some foreign person that they interact with, opening up access to their communications and subsequent unmasking. This however may also be just an effort to get the basic background info out into the public domain so that the final release of the memo is fully understood.

    Being a breaking story this may take days to make sense.

  55. poitsplace says:

    I’m pretty sure they started out with good intentions “Give everyone a chance” and eventually it also got conflated with minorities, the idea of oppression (minorities are often convicted of more crimes…it MUST be racism, right??? Because we’re all identical in our disposition). And over time it’s just evolved into a whatever works to get them elected.

    So while their intent probably wasn’t exactly “We’ll just pander to people that should have been deported or jailed for votes”, that’s pretty much what that it’s turned into.

  56. Larry Ledwick says:

    I think this is the answer to the memo question – from twitter:

    Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸
    ‏@JackPosobiec
    9 hours ago
    Memo will be out in a week or two, all supporting documents need to be sanitized for release

  57. Larry Ledwick says:

    Counter point to the media spin that President Trump does not grasp the duties of President.
    I think the Democratic messaging that paints President Trump as a buffoon is beginning to break down as the real world intrudes on that story line.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/370268-cia-director-trump-grasps-intelligence-info-at-same-level-as-25-year

  58. Larry Ledwick says:

    If this checks out to be true (the memo also impacts other controversies like Benghazi, and IRS targeting) then this is going to be a very ugly election cycle for democrats, if that sort of corruption is all tied together in a massive effort to weaponize our government for political purposes.

    http://truthfeednews.com/breaking-fisa-memo-also-exposes-benghazi-fast-furious-and-more/

  59. E.M.Smith says:

    @Larry:

    I like the slam about single page and visual aids. That’s SOP at all executive levels. I’d write up dozen page justifications for buying a $40 million bit of hardware, then attach a couple of annexes with the hard technical bits, then a one page summary of it all goes on top. The first paragraph of it the “Executive Summary”. Pictures and graphs, or course, communicate much more information in much less time. At the Exec level, it’s all about saving executive time and not screwing up.

    Now my boss would read all but the tech docs and pester me. I’d point out the supporting evidence in the annexes. HIS boss would read the Summary and pester him, and me. We’d point out the explanation and supporting reasoning in the Document (and mention the annexes as existing). He would take random shots and look up random backing material to make sure we did our job.

    The V.P. and P. level (and the Cxx level) reads the Executive Summary rapidly. IFF you are lucky, scans the summary and looks at a picture or two. Then asks a couple of VERY pointed and VERY insightful and VERY targeted questions. We, collectively, would answer with “Page 3, paragraph 5 and subsequent graph support that position, further documentation in Annex 1″. After 2 or 3 of those, the Exec has shown you have done your job and decides on the merits.

    IFF you screw the pooch on one, you get sent back to start over and the NEXT presentation will have twice as many questions. IFF you don’t screw up, the boss eventually realizes you have clue and doesn’t bother with the shadow game. I’ve gotten things approved where the top page did not even have a ‘turn crease”. Just read the Exec Summary and approved. THAT’S a good underling.

  60. E.M.Smith says:

    From that link:

    GOSAR: Well, this memo is a summary of emails and traffic that has been picked up by the intelligence and judiciary systems. Some of it is exactly what you may have seen that has been exposed to the sunlight already. Other things may not. But what it basically does is, that, if you don’t think that Fast and Furious, if you don’t think that Benghazi, for the lack of accountability, if you don’t think the IRS, and if you don’t think the unmasking has something to do with the weaponization of our Department of Justice and our intelligence services, think again.

    MANSOUR: Wow. Okay. What is the likelihood that this memo with be released by Congressman Nunes?

    GOSAR: In our conference, there is a heated debate about when, not if, and we want it out sooner than later. The American people need to see this. There are other things associated with it because this is just the tip of the iceberg. It names names, and those names, they should be owed their day in country, but if it is what’s presented, there are some heads that need to go to jail and not come out for quite some time.

    Wow. Just Oh Wow!

    This from someone who’s “read the memo”…

  61. jim2 says:

    Does anyone remember the simple depiction of chaos that looked like a sheet of paper with a fold, such that a point moving across it would suddenly drop (or rise) from one level to the other? That’s my head pic of the memo … wait for it ….

  62. Larry Ledwick says:

    Which raises an interesting hypothetical question – suppose you were a very high ranking former federal official who has life time Secret Service protection, and an arrest warrant was issued and the Federal Marshals showed up to take that person into custody.

    A. Would the Secret Service detail help enforce that arrest warrant? (presumably yes)
    If it went to trial would the former Secret Service detail members be released from their confidentiality oath and be free to testify on the case and even divulge other hanky panky that they became aware of while serving in the protection detail ?

    If this goes as high as some are implying we could see some very interesting developments here.

    More importantly what happens if that high ranking official tried to evade extradition by zipping off to some non-extradition jurisdiction?

    My bet is that President Trump would authorize forcible seizure and extraction.
    It would be ironic if that high ranking official got to see Gitmo from the inside.

    Just a hypothetical discussion mind you – but we have never had any official I am aware of that was at any time in the Presidential line of succession ever face charges sufficient to be taken into custody for trial. (how high does this mess go?)

  63. Power Grab says:

    Re poitsplace comments:

    I think the Bad Guys “USE” the minorities and pity-worthy groups because they make a good shield. It’s like hiding your ammo dump inside a school or hospital. Because the Good Guys have a habit of trying not to target non-combatants, all the Bad Guys have to do is take possession of a group that is powerless or abnormal and declare them “Off Limits” to any kind of correction or cleansing activities, and the Good Guys will look the other way. Voila! Instant Cloaking Device!

    I think the Bad Guys particularly like to embrace groups that have trouble procreating. I reckon that keeps their numbers low enough to be manageable and/or easy to eliminate if and when they become useless to them.

  64. jim2 says:

    @Larry Ledwick says: 24 January 2018 at 4:08 am.

    If lawyers can’t commit crimes for clients and claim attorney-client privilege, I would think an SS member couldn’t do it either. Anyway, there will be some who really frown on this misbehavior and how bad it makes the FBI and other agencies look. Some will be drooling to talk. Also, if the Rule of Law has any meaning at all, the perps have to go to jail.

  65. Power Grab says:

    @ Larry Ledwick:

    The question of whether or not the Secret Service would be released from their confidentiality oath might be muddied by the question of whether or not they are members of certain secret societies. The oaths those groups take supposedly supersede any other allegiances, and they vow not to harm each other. That’s why they usually end up in the halls of highest power and nothing ever happens to take them down. The way I read it, the only thing that can make them vulnerable to an attack by other members of the society is that they betrayed some other member(s) of the society.

  66. llanfar says:

    @Larry there have been a number of unusual incidents at airports/in the air over the last few months. General consensus is that people are being returned to the US…

    Flight routes over Gitmo are high, but not unusually so.

  67. jim2 says:

    @Power Grab says:24 January 2018 at 4:20 am

    Have you confused our government with the Mafia?

  68. philjourdan says:

    @E.M. – re: memogate. I am also a cynic. I will believe it when I see it. Right now, I only hear hype.

  69. Larry Ledwick says:

    What the Democrats are trying to import to Europe and the rest of the civilized western world.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/01/what_i_learned_in_peace_corps_in_africa_trump_is_right.html

  70. p.g.sharrow says:

    Larry Ledwick, read that “Americanthinker” post. It should be required reading for everyone.

    The writer explains something that I have seem in much of the “3rd world” nations, the naked face of real socialism.
    This is the normal for all tribal cultures and is the reason they are condemned to their minimal existence. This is why these are Shxxhole” countries that will never improve. Socialism is based on stealing from the producers for it’s existence. There is no incentive to create more then you can immediately consume because the users will take it from you. Even their mythology is of heroes that steal or marry or be born into wealth and power. Never on earning their position and wealth. This is why socialism always fails.
    America is supposed to be the shining example of another way and must never be allowed to fall into the trap of being a socialist hell hole…pg

  71. Power Grab says:

    @ jim2: Dunno. I haven’t done any reading about the Mafia. ;-)

    Might be…

  72. Power Grab says:

    Whenever anyone asks me what I’m thankful for, I always mention “indoor plumbing”. The more I learn about other countries, the more thankful I am.

    I spent a week in Belize years ago. When I first stepped off the plane, I said, “What’s that smell?”

    We had been told that their sewer system in the capital city consisted of ditches on the sides of the streets. Oh, yeah.

    So I didn’t automatically think, “How crude!” when POTUS made the comment about shxxhole countries the other day.

    Now, how do we get the favored political classes to stop stealing the wiring from the street lights? It sure would be nice to have well-lighted expressways again that run through the center of certain cities!

    I am thankful that it’s harder to steal parts from sewer systems than it is to steal street light wiring!

  73. DonM says:

    I was helping an electrician with his development project … in meeting with City staff to argue about number of required street lights one of the staff confidently says “we’ve been filling the conduits with that foam insulation to make it to hard to pull the cable out….”

    The electrician says “That’s one way to do it, but per State code what you have been doing is not really legal….”

    In the end we ended up with one less street light than they were demanding.

    (The other “solution” they use around here is to put the 2x2x6 blocks over the junction boxes …apparently the dirtbags are too lazy or stupid to flip over the concrete blocks)

  74. Another Ian says:

    E.M.

    “When The Democrats Do It, That Means That It’s Not Collusion”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2018/01/when-the-democr-23.html#comments

  75. E.M.Smith says:

    @Power Grab:

    Anyone with a TV can see just how crappy it is in those Shit-hole Countries. I find it funny that the Dims are going ape-shit crazy over what is simply speaking the truth.

    It seems that they do not like to recognize truths that are unpleasant.

    Since you can’t fix something if you don’t recognize it as needing fixing: they are blind to what to really do to fix anything that’s unpleasant to them… or they are lying to themselves about the offense…

    I think it is quite correct and accurate to call places such as Libya, Venezuela, Nigeria (Boko Haram raids) etc “shit-hole countries”. I’d not want to book a vacation to them…

  76. Another Ian says:

    E.M.

    Heard via the oil industry.

    Bloke of Afro-American descent was posted to a job in Nigeria. On return he was asked

    “How was your visit to the motherland?”

    Reply was “Thank God for slavery”

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