Hillary Wikileaks & Trump “issues” Collection

Over here: https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2016/10/06/tribal-islam-tribal-left-moral-we/#comment-72886

Gail had said:

Not sure where to put this. (Maybe start a Hillary Wikileaks page?)

Speech Flags (There are 80 pages of this stuff) so just a couple on China.

Well, given that for the next week or two wikileaks will be leaking a lot of stuff in the Hillary, and given that The Donald did locker room talk with an open microphone, and then given the debate tomorrow… that just seemed like a good idea.

So this is an “open comment” page for all things Wikileaks, Hillary, and Der Donald related, may we live through the next couple of weeks…

To start it off, a quote of a bit of what Gail has in that other comment:

Hillary Clinton Said She Warned China That If North Korea Continued Developing Its Missle Program, The US Would “Ring China With Missile Defense.”

“You know, we all have told the Chinese if they continue to develop this missile program and they get an ICBM that has the capacity to carry a small nuclear weapon on it, which is what they’re aiming to do, we cannot abide that. Because they could not only do damage to our treaty allies, namely Japan and South Korea, but they could actually reach Hawaii and the west coast theoretically, and we’re going to ring China with missile defense. We’re going to put more of our fleet in the area. So China, come on. You either control them or we’re going to have to defend against them.” [ Speech to Goldman Sachs, 2013 IBD Ceo Annual Conference, 6/4/13]

Hillary Clinton Said The Chinese “Have A Right To Assert Themselves” In The South China Sea But The US Needed To “Push Back” So They Don’t Get A Chokehold Over World Trade.“


It goes on from there…

I will just note in passing “don’t get a chokehold on world trade”? Well since they are well on their way to becoming all of “world trade” in manufactures (and then how far behind can financial products be?…) I don’t really see what difference it will make if they own the waters through which all their ships move carrying the bulk of all world trade… /sarc;

With that, here you have it: Open Season / Posting on the Friday Document Dumps and “Why in hades did he say that” and more…

Me? I’m busy making comfort food… we’re gonna need it, whoever wins…

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304 Responses to Hillary Wikileaks & Trump “issues” Collection

  1. Gail Combs says:

    Thanks E.M.

    I notice the women at other sites agree with me the leaked billy bush – Trump conversation is a nothing burger. Men trash talk all the time. Also someone mentioned in California the open mic WITHOUT Donald’s knowledge it’s illegal. (2 person consent state same as NC.)

    It also opens wide the door on Hillary laughing about getting a rapist off who raped a 12 year old and put her in a coma for 5 days.

    Of course this is all about diverting attention from the emails.

    This is the funniest so far.

  2. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting polling analysis on the current “joke on a bus” scandle
    Seems Trump dropped slightly but Hillary actually dropped more so he had a net gain.

  3. Gail Combs says:

    Seems climate scientists are not the only targets of the censors.
    “The Drop Dobbs campaign and other efforts. **Media Matters* played a leading role in the Drop Dobbs Coalition” https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/548

  4. Gail Combs says:

    This one I think is very very important because it makes it clear that both the Bush family and Obummer are Globalists and the anti-Russia talk is because Putin refuses to get on board. Also don’t forget that Putin tossed George Soros and his Open Society agitators out.

    It is rather long so here are some of the meaty parts.

    Strobe Talbott’s talk at Occidental last week. Vladimir Putin vs. the 21st Century
    Strobe Talbott President of the Brookings Institution

    2014-04-28 12:02
    …the boss in the Kremlin today: Vladimir Putin. He, like Khrushchev, has a reckless streak. Here’s a relevant footnote to his biography. In the second half of the 1980s, in the twilight of the Soviet era, Putin was helping run a network of spies from the KGB station in Dresden, East Germany. He held the relatively modest rank of lieutenant colonel. Why? Because his superiors didn’t want to promote him further because they judged him to suffer from, and I quote, “a lowered sense of danger.” That is, he was seen to be the opposite of risk-averse, someone who would take risks that might harm his country’s interests. But that didn’t stop him from becoming the most powerful Kremlin leader since Stalin. How that happened is a bizarre story itself….

    Six years later, in 2005, when Putin was president, I participated in a bipartisan task force sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations that assessed the state and trend of U.S.-Russian relations. The group’s report concluded that they were, and I quote, “clearly headed in the wrong direction… Contention is crowding out consensus.”….

    Without Russia, it’s hard to imagine an international system of the kind we need. Russia is eighth in the world in the trade of merchandise, hence an important member of the W.T.O. It’s got more nuclear weapons than any country, including ours; hence it’s essential to arms control. It’s the fourth largest emitter of carbon (after China, the U.S. and India), so it’s won’t be possible to mitigate the effects of climate change without Russia as part of the effort. With 195 nations on the planet, the world needs a G-20 as an unofficial but effective board of directors, just it needs a UN Security Council that can live up to its name by reaching compromises in support of global security. In all these functions, Russia can be a facilitator or it can be a spoiler. Vladimir Putin is now, big-time, in spoiler mode. That’s in large measure because his popularity at home has almost doubled, to 80% approval.….

    it was not until this past winter’s Ukrainian uprising against the corrupt, brutal Yanukovich dictatorship this past winter that Putin decided to go for broke by invading Ukraine and conquering Crimea. Now let’s look ahead and assess the global significance of Putinism. In a nutshell, it jeopardizes the progress the world as a whole has made in recent decades to put in place an international system based on integration, cooperation, and partnership.

    That last word – partnyorstvo – is especially important and has an interesting etymology. It was introduced by Mikhail Gorbachev into the vocabulary of U.S.-Soviet relations 25 years ago, in 1989, much as he’d introduced glasnost and perestroika into the vocabulary of Soviet internal reforms (and example of how Russian domestic reforms tend to be accompanied by some version of détente with the outside world). Boris Yeltsin made partnership a motto of post-Soviet Russian foreign policy. Partnership was personal in the relations between Gorbachev and George Herbert Walker Bush; then between Yeltsin and Bill Clinton. All four of those presidents, two Russians and two Americans, agreed on the need for what Bush called “a new world order.” In essence, what they had in mind was a system — with buy-in from all the major powers — that respected the sovereign right of individual states to govern themselves while collaborating through international institutions to deal with challenges that can only be met through global cooperation….

    How long Putinism lasts is overwhelmingly up to the Russian people themselves, of course. But it will pass more quickly if there’s a forceful voice, backed by national and international resolve, to oppose it. The obvious – and perhaps the only – candidate for that role is Oxy’s most famous alumnus, and our 44th president. Barack Obama is a personification of globalization of the world – and the globalization of America itself….

  5. Gail Combs says:

    This one raised an eyebrow

    Meeting with Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Zarif.

    8. He spent a good deal of time discussing Saudi Arabia. He said since his first days in office he has sought a dialogue, but Iranian overtures have been rebuffed. He was told by the Saudis, “leave the Arabs to ourselves”. He recounted that he left the World Economic Forum immediately and made the long trip to Saudi Arabia for the funeral of King Abdullah. But he received barely a handshake for his efforts. Saudi Arabia also sees relations with Iran as a zero sum game. The Saudis think ISIS can help them against Iran. Iran has sent a new Ambassador to Saudi Arabia who they trust, and he hopes this will help the relationship.

    Remember Huma is connected to Saudi Arabia and the Muslim Brotherhood.

  6. Larry Ledwick says:

    Statement from some billionaire supporters of Trump, that they are sticking with him.


    Someone should collect a bunch of those media out takes of locker room talk by media as a counter point to their faux outrage over Trumps comments.

    I also agree with the comment about taping, if it is abhorrent to undercover tape Planned Parenthood doctors talking about ripping babies apart so that they can sell their organs, or do under cover taping of Acorn to uncover corruption than why does that not apply to the disclosure of these open mike comments?

  7. Gail Combs says:

    (John Podesta’s current position is Hillary’s Campaign Chairman. BTW)

    *Hillary Clinton: “When I Got To The State Department, It Was Still Against The Rules To Let Most — Or Let All Foreign Service Officers Have Access To A Blackberry.”

    Formulas against fascist propaganda (Targets Bernie)

    Clinton press secretary Nick Merrill talks about having “friendly” reporters who they rely on to regurgitate their talking points. — Paul Joseph Watson

    “NYT Follow-up”
    “We have gotten only 2 inquiries today”
    Hunter Walker at Business Insider
    Billy House at BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM

    More collusion between Clinton and media from LBB

    Unfortunately a lot of these emails you have to roll through a lot of article writing to find staff feedback writing. There is half dozen in this one, but it is the whole script every word to get the voter vibe.

    On Feb 2, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Mandy Grunwald wrote: I think this piece turned out well. But when we define our goals, we have to be clear that we are concerned with helping people who are getting crushed by rising costs and stagnant incomes, not that we’re worried about offending high income groups (our donors). My guess is that this sentence will cause us some problems on the left.

    They are discussing/approving which wording is best “average” citizen (decided no, no one wants to be average )

    On Feb 1, 2015, at 6:54 PM, Nick Merrill wrote: Ran the quote past HRC and she asked (with no prompting) that “average” come out. So here’s what I shipped off to Peter Nicholas at the Journal. AS for the NYT, looks like it won’t run for a few days if not next Sunday, so will circle back on that as it develops.

    They have “test drive” groups ( plus run it past everyday americans too)


    There can be not doubt that the US MSM is now as bad as Pravda after reading these e-mails.

  8. Jeff says:

    Could the “locker room” tape be some sort of odd payback for Trump knocking Jeb out of the race? And why did it take 10-11 years for this tape to surface (let alone the fact it was probably done without the consent of the parties involved)? Could it have something to do with one of the “videoees” being a Bush, and G.H.W. Bush having just thrown his support to Hillary?

    Something doesn’t seem right here. The Democrats have gone REALLY low with this one…

    I’ve heard far worse, erm, conversation where I work; moreover I’ve been told some of the exchanges in the ladies’ room make this sound like potty jokes from little kids…

    First a 21-year-old tax return, now an 11-year-old off-color remark, what next? A one-year-old parking ticket?

  9. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting that McCain is withdrawing support of Trump due to the “locker room talk”
    I wonder if he has a recollection of this incident?
    I’m sure equivalent items could be found on all the major political players.

  10. Gail Combs says:

    If you want to talk Judas…

    To: JohnPodesta@gmail.com
    Date: 2016-03-09 18:51
    Subject: Is Cruz Our Last Hope To Beat Trump?

    So what in Hades is the Tea Party — Fresh, Conservative, Intelligent Reporting doing colluding with Hillary’s Campaign Chairman? Talk about a puppet show!

  11. M Simon says:

    Gail Combs says:
    8 October 2016 at 11:57 pm

    What does Soros have against the Pharma companies? He has been a strong supporter of the legalize cannabis movement. The one good thing he has done. IMO.

    Pharmaceutical Company Supports Cannabis Prohibition To Protect Its Profits

  12. Larry Ledwick says:

    Trump may have gotten on everyone’s radar in 2003-04 when there was discussion of him running for president. If they thought it was a real possibility they would have started collecting Op research on him back then.


    2003-2004: Trump begins hosting the reality show The Apprentice on NBC, which he also executive-produces. He again mulls a run for president, but ultimately decides not to join the race.

    March 2011: A Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll shows Trump leading all presidential contenders, including Mitt Romney.

    Given one of the players in that video is a Bush your suggestion has merit, although I have not watched it in detail to see if Billy Bush was leading the discussion and steering Trump into such a gaff.
    As I recall he was responding to questions.

    This item also suggests Billy Bush “prodded” Trump into that line of talk, so not just my recollection.
    Given this is CNN they would of course prefer a spin that injures the Bush family too.

  13. M Simon says:

    Gail Combs says:
    9 October 2016 at 12:07 am

    Valerie Jarrett was born in Iran.


  14. Jeff says:

    Scott Adams seems to have been “seeing the future”, as it were. Moreover, he’s right about kids these days. When I was on a bus, back in the 1970s, a child of 7 or 8 flipped us off! I shudder to think what they’d do now…


    Gateway Pundit has some other “salties” (saltines?) going back to LBJ: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/flashback-video-presidents-colorful-including-obamas-btch-nigga-buy-damn-fries/

  15. gallopingcamel says:

    Clinton can’t win on the issues so she creates distractions aided and abetted by the “Media”. The latest distraction is so effective that I suspect that Trump is the architect. It is already beginning to backfire.

    The “Media” and the RINOS created a perfect storm that boils down to “Trump must step down”. Trump responds “Never” thereby energizing his followers to savage the “Media” and the RINOS in equal measure.

    The “Media” selected John McCain as the GOP candidate in 2008. It is only fitting that McCain should be a player in the Media/RINO meltdown.

  16. gallopingcamel says:

    The second presidential debate is going to be worth watching simply because Donald Trump will be there. You have to love this “Non-apology”:

    The above video may be a preview of a more aggressive approach by Trump tomorrow. How effective will it be given that he is opposed by Hillary Clinton and two “Moderators”? You can be sure that the “Media” will award Hillary both ears and the tail. In spite of that the poll numbers will not shift in her favor.

  17. Larry Ledwick says:

    Looks like the rank and file in the FBI have decided enough is enough and are starting to leak info.

  18. gallopingcamel says:

    Paul Ryan just put his political future on the line. He thinks that Trump is going to lose and that will make him the GOP nominee in 2020. Ryan, Rubio and McCain still don’t get it. By stabbing Trump in the back they are showing that they can’t be trusted and they don’t respect the voters who selected Trump.

    These people are dishonourable RINOs. If they have a shred of integrity left they will change their political affiliation to Democrat.

  19. Larry Ledwick says:

    There is already a stream of blow back photos showing up on twitter of folks who are going ballistic about Trump, showing them doing similar things. I am sure there are a bunch of Reddit kids out there combing through videos and images right now.

    Pictures like some of the obscene T shirts about Palin which the left thought were so funny, one of Arnold Schwarzenegger fondling a dancer with his hands south of the line, and Cuomo checking out Christie Brinkley’s “equipment”, not to mention Hillary staring down Christina Aguilar’s cleavage.

    As mentioned above a lot of Rino’s are black balling themselves with a large segment of the electorate with their holier than thou comments and fake outrage. Many of them have a reputation like Hillary of swearing like a sailor and being very crude when off stage.
    They should have mirrored Trump’s apology and then turned the question back to the Left’s hypocrisy given some of the vicious innuendo and slander campaigns they have run in past elections especially against conservative women.

  20. Gail Combs says:


    *CLINTON SAYS YOU NEED TO HAVE A PRIVATE AND PUBLIC POSITION ON POLICY* *Clinton: “But If Everybody’s Watching, You Know, All Of The Back Room Discussions And The Deals, You Know, Then People Get A Little Nervous, To Say The Least. So, You Need Both A Public And A Private Position.”*
    CLINTON: You just have to sort of figure out how to — getting back to that word, “balance” — how to balance the public and the private efforts that are necessary to be successful, politically… I mean, politics is like sausage being made. It is unsavory, and it always has been that way, but we usually end up where we need to be. But if everybody’s watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least. So, you need both a public and a private position.
    [Clinton Speech For National Multi-Housing Council, 4/24/13]

    *Clinton Said That The Blame Placed On The United States Banking System For The Crisis “Could Have Been Avoided In Terms Of Both Misunderstanding And Really Politicizing What Happened.”*
    “That was one of the reasons that I started traveling in February of ’09, so people could, you know, literally yell at me for the United States and our banking system causing this everywhere. Now, that’s an oversimplification we know, but it was the conventional wisdom…. And I think that everybody was desperately trying to fend off the worst effects institutionally, governmentally, and there just wasn’t that opportunity to try to sort this out, and that came later.” [Goldman Sachs AIMS Alternative Investments Symposium, 10/24/13]
    [Don’t forget Bill Clinton signed the five banking bills that CAUSED the 2008 Foreclosuregate.]

    *Clinton: “Even If It May Not Be 100 Percent True, If The Perception Is That Somehow The Game Is Rigged, That Should Be A Problem For All Of Us.” *
    “Now, it’s important to recognize the vital role that the financial markets play in our economy and that so many of you are contributing to. To function effectively those markets and the men and women who shape them have to command trust and confidence, because we all rely on the market’s transparency and integrity. So even if it may not be 100 percent true, if the perception is that somehow the game is rigged, that should be a problem for all of us, and we have to be willing to make that absolutely clear. And if there are issues, if there’s wrongdoing, people have to be held accountable and we have to try to deter future bad behavior, because the public trust is at the core of both a free market economy and a democracy.” [Clinton Remarks to Deutsche Bank, 10/7/14]

    *CLINTON SUGGESTS WALL STREET INSIDERS ARE WHAT IS NEEDED TO FIX WALL STREET* *Clinton Said Financial Reform “Really Has To Come From The Industry Itself.” *
    “Remember what Teddy Roosevelt did. Yes, he took on what he saw as the excesses in the economy, but he also stood against the excesses in politics. He didn’t want to unleash a lot of nationalist, populistic reaction. He wanted to try to figure out how to get back into that balance that has served America so well over our entire nationhood. Today, there’s more that can and should be done that really has to come from the industry itself, and how we can strengthen our economy, create more jobs at a time where that’s increasingly challenging, to get back to Teddy Roosevelt’s square deal. And I really believe that our country and all of you are up to that job.” [Clinton Remarks to Deutsche Bank, 10/7/14]

  21. Gail Combs says:

    Jill Stein is rubbing Hillary’s nose in the above out takes of her speeches to Bankers.

    This is good since it takes more votes away from Clinton. Looks like Jill is grabbing that Bucket of Losers and walking away with them. snicker

  22. Gail Combs says:

    Oh MY, Matt Drudge just took Hillary to the mat…tress. [https://twitter.com/DRUDGE/status/784548241534771200]

    In the Alexa news catagory Drudge ranks 22 just under UsaToday (16) Reuters (18) Economictimes.indiatimes (20) and CNN Money (21)

  23. Gail Combs says:

    Brian Fallon is press secretary for Hillary Clinton.
    This is prepping reporters on what to ask Clinton Re: BS and guns
    (John Anzalone is a pollster)

    …Circling back around on guns as a follow up to the Friday morning discussion: the Today show has indicated they definitely plan to ask bout guns, and so to have the discussion be more of a news event than her previous times discussing guns, we are going to background reporters tonight on a few of the specific proposals she would support as President – universal background checks of course, but also closing the gun show loophole by executive order and imposing manufacturer liability….

    Imposing manufacturer liability is what shutdown the small plane manufacturing in the USA. Hillary Darn well KNOWS what the results of imposing manufacturer liability would be.

    In 1994 when GARA was signed into law by US President Bill Clinton, airplane shipments had declined 95 percent from the previous decade and the industry had lost over 100,000 jobs. Cessna Aircraft Company, the largest general aviation manufacturer in the world, had stopped making single-engine piston airplanes. Piper Aircraft Company was in bankruptcy and Beech Aircraft had shut down most of its piston production lines. A review of all the lawsuits defended by one company over a ten year period found that the NTSB had not attributed the cause of these accidents to design defects. Yet, that company had paid nearly US$535,000 per accident in litigation costs…..

    “By placing a practical limit on product liability exposure, Congress literally brought the light aircraft industry back to life.” — Russ Meyer, Chairman Emeritus, Cessna Aircraft Company


  24. Gail Combs says:

    Hillary Clinton Said The “Saudis In Particular Are Not Necessarily The Stablest Regimes That You Can Find On The Planet.”

    “So mutually assured destruction as we had with Europe in the ‘40s, ‘50s, ‘60s, ‘70s, ‘80s until the fall of the Soviet Union is much harder to do with the gulf states and it will be unlikely to occur because they will think that they have to defend themselves. And they will get into the business of nuclear weapons, and these are—the Saudis in particular are not necessarily the stablest regimes that you can find on the planet. So it’s fraught with all kinds of problems.” [ Speech to Goldman Sachs, 2013 IBD Ceo Annual Conference, 6/4/13]

    Clinton Said Most Muslims Were Peaceful, But “We Can’t Close Our Eyes To The Fact That There Is A Distorted And Dangerous Strain Of Extremism” Spreading Within The Muslim World. “And I want to be clear, Islam itself is not the adversary. The vast majority of Muslims living here in Canada and the United States are peaceful and tolerant people. We see that every day in our neighborhoods, among those with whom we go to school or work or trade. But we can’t close our eyes to the fact that there is a distorted and dangerous strain of extremism within the Muslim world that continues to spread.” [Hillary Clinton Remarks for tinePublic – Saskatoon, Canada, 1/21/14]

    Clinton Discussed Lack Of Institutions In Libya After Gaddafi’s Fall. “Now, you know, in Libya, the United Nations voted how to protect civilians. And the coalition that was put together was unprecedented. It was NATO plus the Arab League. That had never happened before. The over flights, the boat, air, sea and land efforts included Arab nations as well as Europeans, Canadians and Americans. Khadafy was told but then, you know, the lid was taken off. You have a country that had been under the thumb of Khadafy and his henchmen for 42 years. All institutions were destroyed. There was not even a military because he didn’t trust anybody since he had been a Colonel who had done a coup, so he had mercenaries, there were African mercenaries and some European mercenaries that were in his direct pay. They had really just conducted themselves as if the entire Libyan oil fortune was personally theirs.” [Clinton Remarks At Boston Consulting Group, 6/20/13]

    Clinton Said Libya Could Not Provide Security “As We Found Much To, You Know, Our Terrible Experience In Benghazi.” “So what happened? Well, Khadafy is gone. They start to organize. They had one of the best elections that any of these new countries had. They did not elect extremists. They had a very good outcome of people representing the various factions, but they didn’t, they don’t have a military. They can’t provide security as we found much to, you know, our terrible experience in Benghazi, but we see it all over the country. So the jury is out but it is not for lack of trying by the people who have inherited the positions of responsibility.” [Clinton Remarks At Boston Consulting Group, 6/20/13]

    Clinton: “My Biggest Regret Is The Loss Of Our Four Americans In Benghazi With The Attack On Our Mission, Our Post There.” “My biggest regret is the loss of our four Americans in Benghazi with the attack on our mission, our post there. It wasn’t a consulate. That was  I knew the ambassador. I had sent him there. I had picked him as someone during the Libyan revolution to actually go to Benghazi, because he understood Libya, he spoke great Arabic and French. And he built relationships with a lot of the local people. And of course it was just devastating that there was this attack on our post and on our CIA annex, which I can talk about now, because it’s all been made public. And that the kind of reliability that governments have to count on from the governments in which they operate, like we’re responsible for the security ultimately of every embassy in Washington. Well, the Libyan government has no capacity to deliver and the people that we had contracted with were incapable or unwilling to do it. So that was a deep regret. And you learn from these events, just as we have over the last 30-plus years, where embassies have been attacked or taken over, or the terrible events in Beirut in 1983-84. You learn from them, but it always comes down to this very hard choice, should American civilians be in dangerous places?” [Remarks at Cisco, 8/28/14]

  25. Gail Combs says:

    Now compare the B.S. Hillary was spouting to this. Actually I was looking for the Judicial Watch info about the DOD offering military support to ambassador Stevens BEFORE the attack and Hillary ignoring the many many emails from ambassador Stevens frantically asking for beefed up security.

    To put it bluntly Hillary is an accessory before the fact…

    Judicial Watch: Defense, State Department Documents Reveal Obama Administration Knew that al Qaeda Terrorists Had Planned Benghazi Attack 10 Days in Advance
    Administration knew three months before the November 2012 presidential election of ISIS plans to establish a caliphate in Iraq

    Administration knew of arms being shipped from Benghazi to Syria

    (Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today that it obtained more than 100 pages of previously classified “Secret” documents from the Department of Defense (DOD)and the Department of State revealing that DOD almost immediately reported that the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi was committed by the al Qaeda and Muslim Brotherhood-linked “Brigades of the Captive Omar Abdul Rahman” (BCOAR), and had been planned at least 10 days in advance. Rahman is known as the Blind Sheikh, and is serving life in prison for his involvement in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and other terrorist acts. The new documents also provide the first official confirmation that shows the U.S. government was aware of arms shipments from Benghazi to Syria. The documents also include an August 2012 analysis warning of the rise of ISIS and the predicted failure of the Obama policy of regime change in Syria.

    The documents were released in response to a court order in accordance with a May 15, 2014, Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit filed against both the DOD and State Department seeking communications between the two agencies and congressional leaders “on matters related to the activities of any agency or department of the U.S. government at the Special Mission Compound and/or classified annex in Benghazi.” ….

    “These documents are jaw-dropping. No wonder we had to file more FOIA lawsuits and wait over two years for them. If the American people had known the truth – that Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and other top administration officials knew that the Benghazi attack was an al-Qaeda terrorist attack from the get-go – and yet lied and covered this fact up – Mitt Romney might very well be president. And why would the Obama administration continue to support the Muslim Brotherhood even after it knew it was tied to the Benghazi terrorist attack and to al Qaeda? These documents also point to connection between the collapse in Libya and the ISIS war – and confirm that the U.S. knew remarkable details about the transfer of arms from Benghazi to Syrian jihadists,” stated Tom Fitton, Judicial Watch president. “These documents show that the Benghazi cover-up has continued for years and is only unraveling through our independent lawsuits. The Benghazi scandal just got a whole lot worse for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.”

    Judicial Watch has a lot more such as this
    Another Clinton Email Coverup

    ” * Obama State Department Hid Key Clinton Benghazi Email from Judicial Watch

    * New Benghazi Documents Reveal September 11, 2012, Hillary Clinton ‘Call Sheet’ Describes Benghazi Assault as Attack by ‘Armed Extremists’

    * Cartels Help Terrorists in Mexico Get to U.S. to Explore Targets; ISIS Militant Shaykh Mahmood * Omar Khabir among Them”

    If we had a 4th Estate instead of a Fifth Column Hillary would be no where near gaining the White House.

  26. Gail Combs says:

    Chelsea Clinton reads a story…


    (Google will not pull this image up, I wonder why? snicker….)

  27. Gail Combs says:

    orca100@upcmail.nl maybe a spammer from the Netherlands. However this set of news stories about Angela Merkel’s about face on immigration sent by him is interesting:
    While most centrist & leftwing politicians lie liberally about (esp. Continental) Europe’s Immigration Disaster, Angela Merkel & Wouter Bos once blurted out the terrible truth, thereby sounding just like Pim Fortuyn

    A look/see for orca100 comes up with an Arabic twitter acct. Muslim?? A “Berniecrat” suggests a racist affiliated with AIPAC. (The American Israel Public Affairs Committee)

  28. M Simon says:

    Gail Combs says:
    9 October 2016 at 12:10 pm

    From your link:

    Tragically, that’s not even scratching the surface in terms of the NUMBER of immigration-disaster subjects. For example, there’s no mention of anything from widespread political extremism and rampant Muslim anti-Semitism, to gay bashing and the ultraviolent mass grooming of white girls by Muslim men in Britain, the Netherlands, Germany, etc. (much more about that at a later date), to mention just a few items on an laundry list running from here to hell.

    I assume that “mass grooming” he means rape. Here it is:

    Child grooming is a term which describes the following situation. When an adult becomes friends with a child, this is sometimes done for a reason. The reason is to lower the inhibitions of the child and to prepare for sexual abuse. So, action taken by an adult to form a trusting relationship with a child, with the intent of later having sexual contact, is ‘child grooming’.[1]

    The act of grooming a child may include activities that are legal, but later lead to sexual contact. The grooming is done to gain the child’s trust, and the trust of those responsible for the child. Children are less likely to report a crime if it involves someone the child knows, trusts, and cares about. Also, a relationship with the family means the child’s parents will be less likely to believe any accusations.


  29. Gail Combs says:

    *Hillary Clinton Said Her Dream Is A Hemispheric Common Market, With Open Trade And Open Markets. *
    “My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, some time in the future with energy that is as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere.” [05162013 Remarks to Banco Itau.doc, p. 28] *Hillary Clinton Said We Have To Have A Concerted Plan To Increase Trade; We Have To Resist Protectionism And Other Kinds Of Barriers To Trade. *“Secondly, I think we have to have a concerted plan to increase trade already under the current circumstances, you know, that Inter-American Development Bank figure is pretty surprising. There is so much more we can do, there is a lot of low hanging fruit but businesses on both sides have to make it a priority and it’s not for governments to do but governments can either make it easy or make it hard and we have to resist, protectionism, other kinds of barriers to market access and to trade and I would like to see this get much more attention and be not just a policy for a year under president X or president Y but a consistent one.” [05162013 Remarks to Banco Itau.doc, p. 32]

    Note it is OPEN MARKETS aka access to consumers she is worried about and NOT business/job creation. That takes a rollback of regulation and fair trade deals. Hillary wants to continue to protect Wall Street and not help Main Street.

    Snippets from Private Hillary Speeches:
    Download file: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails//fileid/927/180

    Lloyd Craig Blankfein is the CEO and Chairman of Goldman Sachs. He assumed this position upon the May 2006 nomination of former CEO Henry Paulson to United States Secretary of the Treasury. There are discussions between Hillary and Blankfein in that wikileak file.

  30. Gail Combs says:

    The following set of e-mails are stranger than snake shoes.
    For a bit of background:
    Calphysics Institute: Introduction to Zero-Point Energy:

    John Podesta says his biggest failure of 2014 was not securing the disclosure of UFO files.
    Link: http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/07/politics/john-podesta-hillary-clinton-ufo/



    ….It is urgent that we agree on a date and time to meet to discuss Disclosure and Zero Point Energy, at your earliest available after your departure.

    My Catholic colleague Terri Mansfield will be there too, to bring us up to date on the Vatican’s awareness of ETI.

    Another colleague is working on a new Space Treaty, citing involvement with Russia and China. However with Russia’s extreme interference in Ukraine, I believe we must pursue another route for peace in space and ZPE on Earth.

    I met with President Obama’s Honolulu childhood friend, US Ambassador Pamela Hamamoto on July 4 at the US Mission in Geneva, when I was able to tell her briefly about zero point energy. I believe we can enlist her as a confidante and resource in our presentation for President Obama. I appreciate Eryn’s assistance in working with Terri to set up our meeting.

    Best regards,
    Edgar Edgar D. Mitchell,
    ScD Chief Science Officer & Founder, Quantrek
    Apollo 14 astronaut
    6th man to walk on the Moon

    ETI/ Terri Mansfield — link

    ETI vs celestials
    The ETI (Extraterrestrial Intelligence) with whom Suzanne and Terri [Mansfield] work are peaceful, nonviolent and obedient to God.

    They are NOT from our universe but from a CONTIGUOUS universe.

    They are the highest form of intelligence working directly with God.

    Their purpose is to assist us humans who are eager to bring powerful, safe, clean, cheap, sustainable, ubiquitous, infinite ZERO POINT ENERGY application as THE energy source to our viable Earth. This ZPE energy is centered on the Tau neutrino….

    And they compare climate skeptics to flat-earthers?????

  31. Gail Combs says:

    Found the Judicial Watch article I was looking for.
    Judicial Watch: New Benghazi Email Shows DOD Offered State Department “Forces that Could Move to Benghazi” Immediately – Specifics Blacked Out in New Document

    “They are spinning up as we speak.” U.S. Department of Defense Chief of Staff Jeremy Bash Tuesday, September 11, 2012, 7:19 PM

    (Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today released a new Benghazi email from then-Department of Defense Chief of Staff Jeremy Bash to State Department leadership immediately offering “forces that could move to Benghazi” during the terrorist attack on the U.S. Special Mission Compound in Benghazi, Libya on September 11, 2012. In an email sent to top Department of State officials, at 7:19 p.m. ET, only hours after the attack had begun, Bash says, “we have identified the forces that could move to Benghazi. They are spinning up as we speak.” The Obama administration redacted the details of the military forces available, oddly citing a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) exemption that allows the withholding of “deliberative process” information.

    Bash’s email seems to directly contradict testimony given by then-Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta before the Senate Armed Services Committee in February 2013. Defending the Obama administration’s lack of military response to the nearly six-hour-long attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Panetta claimed that “time, distance, the lack of an adequate warning, events that moved very quickly on the ground prevented a more immediate response.”

    The first assault occurred at the main compound at about 9:40 pm local time – 3:40 p.m. ET in Washington, DC. The second attack on a CIA annex 1.2 miles away began three hours later, at about 12 am local time the following morning (6 p.m. ET), and ended at approximately 5:15 a.m. local time (11:15 p.m. ET) with a mortar attack that killed security officers Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty…..

  32. M Simon says:

    Gail Combs says:
    9 October 2016 at 1:11 pm

    Zero Point Energy is real. The amount that can be currently collected at any point in space is so small as to be laughable.

    And the “Dark Matter” theory appears to be currently in dispute. Possibly either measurement error or misinterpretation. “Dark Energy” may go the same way.

    It would be nice if politicians had a feel for physics. But they probably wouldn’t be politicians then would they?

  33. Ian W says:

    I haven’t ground my way through all of these – but I think that the answer to Jeff says:
    9 October 2016 at 12:46 am Could the “locker room” tape be some sort of odd payback for Trump
    I would think that there is a store of these items held over the head of everyone in public life. To keep them in line. It would certainly explain some totally contrary behaviors from the SCOTUS to senate voting. But we are now seeing panic break out as Trump is taking no notice presumably of the threat followed by the actuality. All the political wussies like Ryan are running for the hills as this will probably get worse. The elite are really threatened and that could mean that there is something bigger hidden in a back cupboard that is more disconcerting than a real skeleton. This is why we see Bush (saying he will be) voting for Clinton obviously accepting an activist supreme court damaging the country and constitution for decades is better than what they expect to happen to their elite if Trump is elected. Truly “Something is rotten in the state of Denmark. ” perhaps we will get to find out what is panicking the elites.

  34. Gail Combs says:

    This type of attack was planned for a while.

    From:brentbbi@webtv.net [Brent Budowsky | Huffington Post]
    To: john.podesta@gmail.com
    Date: 2015-08-29 13:06
    Subject: Question
    If the campaign has a full list of Trump’s verbally abusive insults of women with specific examples of specific insults against specific women, if they email details to me I would a nuclear column including a call on leading GOP women to aggressively disown him and a call on major media to aggressively report the facts ‎ in defense of women, and stop giving Trump immunity from acceptable standards of journalism coverage and presidential politics.

    I would independently verify the details through my own fact checking from public sources and not mention the campaign.‎

    Trump is an abusive sexist Joe McCarthy ready for an Edward R. Murrow and I am ready to go further than any mainstream columnist but would need to be rock solid with facts.

    Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network.

  35. p.g.sharrow says:

    “Zero point energy” is techno-babble for the electrical pressure of charge of the Universe.

    Imagine an atmosphere that is compressed to 10,000psi and there was an ability to cause the creation of a 10 to the minus 5 void in it at the speed of light..

    The creation of a an atom of Hydrogen from a Neutron increases the “pressure”.
    The creation of a Neutron from a Hydrogen atom decreases the “pressure”.

    We know how to cause the first reaction with our fission/fusion atomic energy industry. The second reaction is the one under question and experiment

    Prophecy is that GOD will give humanity two gifts during this time,
    One is the ability to create energy and passivate radioactivity. The opposite of our present use.
    The other is the ability of true space flight by the electronic/electrical manipulation of space.

    This problem of virulent Islam must be solved first. GOD will not allow Warlords access to space…pg

  36. Jeff says:

    @Ian W: Your comment just made me wonder – What did Scalia know? His death remains as mysterious as Breitbart’s and most of the other “Arkancide” victims.

    Certainly, considering the access to information that the Clintons had, both legally and illegally, they would be able to get damning info on just about anyone. But maybe there’s a Balrog in that closet,
    as it were. With all the new media, and the younger generation’s use of it as opposed to MSM, the powers that be can’t hide as much or as well as they used to. I just hope the Republican party doesn’t shred itself (which I think is one of the things Hildebeast and the RINOs are after). Could end up like the Whigs in Lincoln’s time….

  37. Jeff says:

    @ Gail: Looks like Scott Adams also considered Trump’s “colorful” speech, back in March. His take on it is good, and also shows that Hillary &co. are out of touch – http://blog.dilbert.com/post/140752860706/who-trump-offends-with-his-salty-language

    Hillary, the RINOs, and TPTB have no solutions, so they can only criticize…

  38. p.g.sharrow says:

    The Educated Connected Elites greatly fear Trump. This “Beast” and his followers can destroy the well ordered universe that they enjoy. As the hands of GOD move!…pg

  39. Gail Combs says:

    Clinton is given a heads up on inquiry into the Clinton Foundation after Grassley sent a letter to AG Lynch requesting same. Doesn’t leave much doubt about where Lynch loyalty lies does it?


    Jennifer Palmieri is Director of Communications for the 2016 Hillary Clinton presidential campaign. She left her post as communications director for Obama’s White House in February. She moved into that same high-level slot on the Clinton campaign, where she manages candidate message, media relations–and trouble-shooting.

    Kristina Schake a former aide to Michelle Obama NYT: This Woman’s Job Is to Recast Hillary Clinton’s Image

    Tony CarrkClinton campaign research director

    creynolds maybe Chelsea Clinton who Goes By Diane Reynolds when emailing Hillary Clinton

    Maura Pally is the senior vice president of programs at the Clinton Foundation. In this role, Maura oversees the strategic and operational efforts

    Charles Ernest “Chuck” Grassley is the REPUBLICAN senior United States Senator from Iowa, serving since 1981. He was chairman of the Senate Finance Committee from January to June 2001, as well as from January 2003 to December 2006, and is now the current chairman of the Judiciary Committee of the 114th congress.

    Cheryl D. Mills served as deputy White House Counsel for President Bill Clinton, whom she defended during his 1999 impeachment trial. She is now an aide to Hillary.

    Heather Samuelson, a lawyer and 2008 Clinton campaign staffer, worked under Mills and Clinton’s attorney David Kendall to sift through Hillary’s emails. She helped separate those that were purely personal, which were not turned over to the State Department, from those that were work-related. link

    Huma Mahmood Abedin serves as vice chairwoman of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign for President. Prior to that, she served as the deputy chief of staff to U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton from 2009 to 2013 and married to sexual deviant Anthony Weiner.

    John Podesta is the Chairman of the 2016 Hillary Clinton presidential campaign. Podesta previously served as Chief of Staff to President Bill Clinton and Counselor to President Barack Obama.

    To: class=”sh” jpalmieri@hillaryclinton.com, kschake@hillaryclinton.com, tcarrk@hillaryclinton.com, creynolds@hillaryclinton.com
    Date: 2015-07-03 13:49
    Subject: Fwd: Grassley letter
    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: *Maura Pally*
    Date: Friday, July 3, 2015
    Subject: Grassley letter
    To: Cheryl Mills , John Podesta , Heather Samuelson , Huma Abedin

    Putting on all of your radars that Grassley sent a letter to AG Lynch (dated June 30th though we just saw it) asking questions about contributions to the Clinton Foundation and the Uranium One deal. Letter is attached. Craig is connecting with comms team to be sure they are aware as well.

  40. p.g.sharrow says:

    @Jeff; I think it is the Democratic Party that is in self-destruct and the Republicans in renewal…pg

  41. M Simon says:

    Jeff says:
    9 October 2016 at 3:48 pm

    Scalia voted in Raich to support Wickard vs Filburn. Was he loaded up with anti-drug hysteria? Or something else.

    BTW he was an old man – 87 IIRC. Sometimes they do die naturally.

  42. M Simon says:

    p.g.sharrow says:
    9 October 2016 at 4:04 pm

    The FORCE is strong with that one.

  43. Larry Ledwick says:

    A comment on one of the Trump responses from Dr. Ben Carson.
    This comment appeared in a local news paper “The Advocate” but not completely sure where that paper is located, although a little facebook cruising on the original commentators page makes me think it is a student newspaper in Albuquerque New Mexico.

    Millions of trump supporters feel this way about Donald J. Trump…..

    “We don’t care if the guy swears… or how many times he’s been married…or who he voted for, or what his income tax return shows. We want the problems fixed. Yes he’s an egomaniac, but we don’t care. We know he’s not a racist, or bad to women, or all the other things the liberal media is trying to label him with. We know he’s raised a good family, and that says a lot about him.

    The country is a mess because politicians suck, the Republican Party is two faced & gutless, and illegals are everywhere and Muslims are openly trying to hurt this country and make the civilized world adjust to them. We want it all fixed!

    We don’t care that Trump is crude, we don’t care that he has changed positions, we don’t care that he fights with Megan Kelly, Rosie O’Donnell, and so many of the elected establishment. We don’t care that Rubio, Ryan, the Bush’s, and so many other top old and new Republicans refuse to endorse him for their own selfish reasons, and we know what they are. We don’t care that he doesn’t know the name of some Muslim terrorists, we don’t care that he tried some businesses that didn’t work out.

    This country is weak, bankrupt, our enemies are making fun of us, we are being invaded by illegals, we are becoming a nation of victims, where every Tom, Ricardo and Hasid is a special group with special rights to a point where we don’t even recognize the country we were born and raised in, AND WE JUST WANT IT FIXED. And TRUMP is the only guy who seems to understand what the people want.

    We’re sick of politicians, sick of the Democratic and Republican Party. We’re angry about the Iran deal, the budget, treatment of Israel, military weakness, lobbyists, special interests, overpaid politicians with their self serving bills and back room deals, trade deals, loss of jobs, manipulated economic numbers, businesses fleeing, and even the phoney pay for play Clinton Foundation.

    Americans are no longer going to be fooled, and the movement is out to change the direction we’re taking. Trump may not be a saint, but he doesn’t have lobbyist money holding him, he doesn’t have political correctness restraining him, and all you know is that he has been very successful, a good negotiator, he has built a lot of things, he’s flexible, and he’s also not a politician. And he says he’ll fix it. And we believe him because he is too much of an egotist to be proven wrong or looked at and called a liar.

    Public service has become elected greed. This may be our only chance to have a non-politician, despite his flaws, try and correct the mess, at least for 4 years. We must take the shot, because the consequences of putting Hillary Clinton in office are frightening. There is a tidal wave happening, and its going to overcome much of what’s happened to this country.”

  44. Gail Combs says:

    I think you are correct. Instead of forming a new party we are taking it back from the Globalist RINOs
    Jeff says: “Could the “locker room” tape be some sort of odd payback for Trump knocking Jeb out of the race?”
    Oh yes. Remember Billy is a Bush cousin and Trump had ALREADY stated in 2011 he might run if things got too bad. Also at that time polls showed he was more popular as a candidate than Mittens Romney.

    So yeah, this was a set-up by good ole’ Billy. I would not be surprised to find Billy did a whole bunch of warmup and luring before hand hoping to get a juicy tape to save for this election cycle in case Trump decided to run.

    Never forget the Bush family are globalists and the real divide is the Globalist Elite vs the nationalist serfs.

  45. Gail Combs says:

    Larry Ledwick says “…Millions of trump supporters feel this way about Donald J. Trump….. “

    Yes, that is exactly it.

    We aren’t looking for a pastor or priest or minister for our local church. We are looking for a General Patton and we don’t care about anything except the fact he can lead us to victory.

    And yes I picked Patton, not only because he was one of Trump’s heroes (and he saved the Lippizzaner horses) but because of his character traits.

    Patton was NOT a ‘comfortable man’ but his troops would follow him into he!! Patton died at the age of 65 as a result of an auto accident. Some think he was gotten rid of because of the type of man he was.

  46. Larry Ledwick says:

    Yes I have a book titled “Patton’s Principles” written by one of his junior commanders that uses short stories of his experience to illustrate how Patton led his troops and got what he wanted.

    He was very mission oriented, all things were subordinate to the commanders intent of the mission.
    Patton felt you should tell your people what you wanted them to accomplish then get the hell out of their way and let them find their own way of getting to that objective. I agree I see Trump as being very similar in work style. Results matter, methods — not so much.

  47. Gail Combs says:


    To: JohnPodesta@gmail.com
    Date: 2016-03-02 19:21
    Subject: Super Tuesday: What Went Down

    I picked these out of the html mess:

    Seems the TEA PARTY was where the David Duke KKK attack came from.

  48. Ian W says:

    Re: Gail Combs says: 9 October 2016 at 1:29 pm

    Flight time Naples where special forces were on standby to Benghazi on a routine not hurried flight would be ~ 1 hour 40 minutes. For top cover fighter aircraft around half that.

    From all that happened starting in Egypt and the ‘Gaza Convoys’ aka Freedom Flotilla with Obama’s friend Bill Ayres and being set up by Turkey. We see the destabilization of Syria, Gaza, Egypt, Lybia, Algeria and Morocco and attempt to put in place the Muslim Brotherhood with links to Erdogan in Turkey – looking very much like an attempt to return the Ottoman Empire, the old Caliphate under the warm and fuzzy name ‘Arab Spring’. This might be the reason for the rather vacillating support from Turkey for attacks on DA’ESH in the Levant, also trying to setup a Caliphate. They were seen by Obama as the junior league compared to an Istanbul led Caliphate. But it was all falling apart starting with Egypt being a little more secular than Obama and Hillary thought. All of this being fed by the extensive oil fields being found in the eastern Mediterranean hence Russian interest in Cyprus and Syria.

    The Great Game continues.

  49. Larry Ledwick says:

    Gail just a reminder we do not know absolutely who leaked these emails or what their agenda is. It is almost certain that some of them are cooked or outright fakes, so double checking on “apparent facts” is in order. I would not be surprised that some of the folks who tried to co-opt the Tea Party for the establishment did such a thing, but this dump needs to be evaluated with caution.

  50. Larry Ledwick says:

    I found this statement on twitter and thought it was worthy of inclusion here:

    We are at least 40% of the country. We might make up as much as 60%.
    The hoaxing media for years has run a psyop on the American People,
    making everyone who supports putting America first feel isolated and alone.

    If you watch the news, you’ll feel depressed and isolated. The psyop
    will become intensified, as the media intends to drop more “damaging”
    videos of Trump. Many of these videos were where Trump was “playing
    a role,” much like a pro wrestler. These videos are designed to demoralize
    you to keep you home on November 8th.

    General Vo Nguyen Giap led his people to victory in the Vietnam War, and he offers a lesson for all of us: “However great the military and economic potential of your adversary, it will never be great enough to defeat a people united in the struggle for their fundamental rights.”

    We are in a fight for our fundamental right to have a country.
    We are in a fight to have a press that doesn’t hoax the public.

    Our adversaries are many, and they are well-funded. But remember this. They are PAID to fight us. We fight for freedom. Like most of you, I am not taking a salary from any campaign and certainly not from the GOP.

    You can CHOOSE to give up, to feel demoralized, to feel afraid or defeated. Making this choice – and your feelings are a CHOICE – is giving in to the enemy.

    “All right, they’re on our left, they’re on our right, they’re in front of us, they’re behind us… they can’t get away this time” – Lewis B Chesty Puller, USMC

    The only way for them to win is for you to quit. I’m not quitting, now or on November 8th.

    Official @MAGA3X Statement on the Coming Trump Drama #MAGA3X

  51. E.M.Smith says:

    So far, wikileaks stuff has not shown a lot of hoax content. While caution is important, and vetting a very good thing, there does seem to be an ethos of ‘make it true’ in the folks supplying them with the goods. So less sanguine, but still cautious…

    Per parties: They go through cycles of life and death, but slowly… Republicans are up for a renewal, Democrats for a fall; if not this time, after 4 years of Hillary, well, I’ll be surprised if she lasts that long without impeachment…

    Larry found some good quotes there!

  52. Gail Combs says:


    I have rejected some that I have seen that are obviously spam. However TownHall was already persona non grata in my book.


    More and more ‘trusted sources’ and people are being exposed as globalist sellouts. I thought I had my eyes open but the depth and breadth of the corruption throughout this country astounds me.

  53. Gail Combs says:

    EM again thank you for opening this page.

    Larry, an additional note. I very much value your comments and that of the rest of the people here. That is why I selected certain emails and put them here. I trust this group to ‘out’ any hoaxes.

  54. Gail Combs says:

    Oh, my lord

    Here is a picture to go with the Benghazi info.

  55. Larry Ledwick says:

    @ Gail

    I thought I had my eyes open but the depth and breadth of the corruption throughout this country astounds me.

    Sadly true. About the time I left working for the Office of Emergency Management I had an “accidental” conversation with one of the people I worked with who seemed pretty connected to the political structure. I made a joking comment and he took it seriously and out of context thinking I meant something else. He proceeded to tell me that minor ambassador ships were for sale for about $50,000 and someone he knew was angling to get one.

    I took it as “look at me” BS, now I believe he was 100% serious. The reason I left the state was because of how the political types were constantly maneuvering for political advantage rather than to protect the citizens of the state. They would rewrite disaster assessments and issue reports so as not to make the current governor look bad (circa 1987- on). It was appalling and a lot of good people self selected themselves like me to get out because they refused to be associated with what was happening.

    The final straw for me was they did a report on how western Colorado communities like Steam Boat Springs and near by Yampa County airport would handle a major jet crash (about the time of the Iowa crash of United flight 232) and shortly after the flight 1713 crash at Denver’s Stapleton airport (November 15, 1987).

    The report as written was that those small western slope communities would be totally over loaded as a result of the mass casualty incidents. (even though the emergency managers over there were working hard to stock pile resources. One small community was making lots of spare back boards out of plywood and stashing them for just such an event.)

    It was decided that it was embarrassing to admit that obvious truth so the report was re-written by officials out side our office to say it would be a challenge but they could handle it.

    At that time those small airports were handling 727-200s, MD-80, 737-200, 757-200, 767-200 and 737-700 class aircraft. With passenger seating for 130-150 persons. In the winter time (ski season) road conditions could make it exceedingly difficult to back stop them with out of the area resources, but that did not matter — we can’t embarrass the local political officials who said it would not be a problem.

    That was when my eyes first opened up to how much many senior political types suck and the stupid games they would play and screw their constituents.

  56. John Robertson says:

    Frank Zappa; I Am The Slime.
    Trump needs to secure the right to use this song.
    Play it over adds of Hillary and the Fawning Media talking down to the lowly taxpayer.
    For the force out to destroy America are the Progressive Parasites.
    Which begs this question, What is “The Public Interest”?
    Seems to be an unbridgable gulf between those who pay and those who play.
    Like here in Canada, the interests of me taxpayer paying in excess of 50% of my income to a parasitic horde of fools and bandits….Are not the same as the guaranteed payroll,best class pensioned “Public Servants” who are bankrupting small business.
    Up here my fearless bureaucrats just activated legislation criminalizing being an employer.
    Can’t cure stupid.

  57. a.ashfield says:

    I already knew both parties were rotten to the core. I don’t see any solutions mentioned. Congress has the power to make laws not the President and history suggests the same bunch will be returned to run it. Neither Trump nor Hillary would be candidates I’d pick. Trump might just shake up the establishment a little bit, so has the edge.

    I haven’t heard him articulate any real plans to pull America out of economic stagnation. This would require a change in business culture such that gains from increased productivity get shared with the workers instead of the business owners keeping it all, with the result of wage stagnation for the last twenty years. It’s all very well talking about stopping manufacturing from moving abroad but it is too late. Too much has already done so. Think how little you buy these days that was made in America by an American company.

  58. Larry Ledwick says:

    Hmmmmm very interesting This comment is not showing up in the recent comment list even though it was made 33 minutes ago. Could word press be suppressing it because of the link???

    Another Ian says:
    9 October 2016 at 9:01 pm

    From Canada


  59. Larry Ledwick says:

    Hmmmm even more interesting, I reloaded the page several times to see if it would pick up the comment, as soon as I posted the above, both it and my comment popped up in recent comments?

    WordPress certainly has something goofy going on with the recent comment listing.

  60. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting item on how the traditional GOP is back stabbing Trump by fixing the voter registration process so it is ineffective or out right turning away volunteers who support Trump.

    Can you say next step is form a new party and leave the old GOP spinning in the wind?


  61. Larry Ledwick says:

    EM — I think I have a clue about the missing/late updates to comments, it appears word press only updates that list when it has 2 or more updates to add. A single new comment will not be added to that list until a second comment on some topic shows up.

  62. Jeff says:

    Scott Adams has some cogent thoughts here about reasoning versus persuasion, and Trump (item #12 is interesting in that he’s a “shy Trump supporter” and parking his vote with Johnson:

  63. Larry Ledwick says:

    Now we see Sputniknew.com defending the wiki leaks and challenging what they say is a shoddy forgery intended to mislead.
    (wilderness of mirrors indeed — just who is playing who, or perhaps everyone is playing everyone)


  64. E.M.Smith says:


    OMG, do I love that Scott Adams bit:

    14. Trump wasn’t running for Pope. He never claimed moral authority. His proposition has been that he’s an asshole (essentially), but we need an asshole to fight ISIS, ignore lobbyists, and beat up Congress. Does it change anything to have confirmation that he is exactly what you thought he was?

    I’ve said “Yes, he’s a bull in a china closet… but he’s OUR bull!” Still feel that same…

    Go gore them and trample them and “say naughty things” at them if that will help ;-)

  65. Jeff says:

    @Larry: I’ve seen similar in the biz world (HP among them) where seemingly innocuous errors were introduced into announcements, position papers, strategy statements, and in particular, “internal only” documents to detect if something was leaked, and sometimes, by whom, as multiple versions of the same document would have been released.

    Kind of sneaky in my book, but I’m an engineer, not a politician: http://dilbert.com/strip/1994-10-09

  66. E.M.Smith says:

    @John Robertson:

    I’m sorry, but that kind of ‘tease” is just Not Acceptable!

    You simply MUST provide some supporting material for such things.

    Like a little linky ;-)

    /sarc; for the sarc impaired…

  67. E.M.Smith says:

    Hillary just arrived at the “debate”. CSPAN is covering the warm up… She had a younger lady do the arm around waist as she did arm over shoulder (or vise versa) to go up a dozen? regular steps on an ordinary building entry stairs.

    She has some kind of significsnt balance or visual problem to need that…

    It was done fast and smoothly, but it WAS done…

  68. E.M.Smith says:

    Melania and the Trump family look pensive, they know Dad is up for crucifixion. Chelsea and Billy (goat) have their plastic smile game faces on…

  69. M Simon says:

    I’m not going to watch. I’ll check the after action reports.

  70. M Simon says:

    Larry Ledwick says:
    9 October 2016 at 5:55 pm

    Giap also said to the effect: “We lost every battle and won the war. “

  71. E.M.Smith says:

    Anderson Cooper did a great set up of Trump, then after the response tossed to Hillary for a canned speach.

    Well coordinated and planned…

    Now into the expected “make it everyone” by dragging in thd race card and PC Standards.

  72. E.M.Smith says:

    Martha Raddatz now double dips the bad words topic, Trump pivotes it to Billy and words vs Bill’s deeds…

  73. E.M.Smith says:

    What’s with the psuedo tux pants suit on Hillary? And the Trump applause gets the shutdown from the moderator, but cheers from Hillary gets nothing?

    Sure looks like 3 on one to me…

  74. Trump pulled out the special prosecutor gun on her…time for an obama pardon…

  75. M Simon says:

    Larry Ledwick says:
    9 October 2016 at 5:51 pm

    The TEA Party was co-opted. It was originally a non-denominational movement against bigger government and higher taxes.

    And then for quite some time the “major” TEA organizations took on a heavy SoCon tinge. Social Conservatism is dying in America. Literally. It is an old folks home. The kids are less religious these days but are definitely anti-government. Out of my wallet, out of my bedroom, out of my smoking parlor.

    The critical error Social Conservatism made in the 1980s was allying itself with government. The “Moral Majority” was a huge mistake. With government making war heavily on 10% of the population for the last 45 years (it rotates as new generations get to experience it) there is now 58% (and rising) of the population against the government. And against the social conservatives who still support that war.

    They defeated themselves. Idiots.

    Look at how well the anti-abortion folks have done being independent of government. God help them if the get a Federal law.

    If the question is “what to do about xxx” and the answer is “we need a law” you are talking to a socialist.

  76. E.M.Smith says:

    IMHO Hillary’s answer on the Muslim question shows she is a 100% owned by The House Of Saud and wants the Globalist Agenda… Then we have the double dip on Islam by Raddatz…

  77. E.M.Smith says:

    Hillary lies like a rug calling her two positions (public vs private) an editorial on Lincoln and Congress yeah. Right. Now turning it to a Putin and Tax returns question? WTF?

  78. She did a poor job trying to get Trump on defense. His response about Honest Abe sank that one…

  79. So far this is my favorite debate.

  80. E.M.Smith says:

    To paraphrase My Fair Lady ‘She oiled her way across the floor’…

  81. E.M.Smith says:

    OMG, Raddatz is now debating w/Trump over Syria..

  82. So far she has only once disputed his claims of “she lied”. And that was about her record… He’s getting a huge win on the “She a Liar” argument.

  83. Larry Ledwick says:

    According to the Drudge online poll Trump mopped the floor with Hillary
    89.56 Trump
    10.44 Hillary

  84. Larry Ledwick says:

    Well this is good for a hearty laugh — I did not realize the significance of Melania’s attire.
    Seems she was trolling the media and the Clintons.


  85. p.g.sharrow says:

    Trump promised that a top priority of his DoJ was to investigate and jail Clinton for her crimes.
    OMG! Expect the Washington Elites and their minions to pull out ALL the stops to smear Trump and stop him.
    They will lose. The people are pissed and will no longer stand aside for their “Betters” to run things.
    The Beast will upset their cozy world and an investigation into the world of the Clintons will uncover rot everywhere…pg

  86. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter (my feeling too)

    Stefan Molyneux ‏@StefanMolyneux 1h1 hour ago
    How many people are going to specifically vote for Donald Trump just because he outright promised the prosecution of Hillary Clinton? Lots.

  87. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:

    Frank Luntz Verified account

    Focus Group: Who are you willing to vote for?

    • Hillary: 8
    • Trump: 9

    • Hillary: 4
    • Trump: 18

  88. Larry Ledwick says:

    Oh boy this is about to get really interesting, CNN got caught by a sloppy edit coaching their focus (fake) focus group with talking points.

  89. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:
    Bill Mitchell ‏@mitchellvii 2 minutes ago
    Bill Mitchell Retweeted Political Polls
    Folks, THIS is the poll that matters. These are the ones undecided in the middle. +15 Trump. Wow.
    Bill Mitchell added,

    Political Polls

    YouGov Poll
    Debate Winer Among Independents:

    Trump 51 (+15)
    Clinton 36

    https://t.co/KFnTgmyx69 <- – – upload link for the poll

    Click to access Post%20Debate%20Poll%20-%20Tables.pdf

  90. Gail Combs says:

    The look you get when you realize they just seated your rape victims in the front row…..

    And Melania adds the final touch by wearing a Gucci ‘Pussy-bow’ shirt.


    After this expect the Globalists to get out their knives.

    I think Alex Jones is correct and they will haul out the 3 nameless adult women who were supposedly raped by Trump as teeny boppers on Jeffrey Epstein’s ‘Lolita Express’ express. (Set-up by a NY Judge and her Reporter brother)

    They already tried it once and it flopped because the address was a vacant house.

    They pulled this on Herman Cain successfully the last time so there is every reason to expect them to use the same tactic quite close to the election so there is no time for recovery. Then they can rig the election even if Trump does win.

  91. Gail Combs says:

    Here is Alex Jones on the Pedophile setup to be launched against Trump in a day or two,

    The Federal Judge was appointed by Obama and recommended by the NY senator who took over from Clinton. GEE, no conflict of interest there.

    The video is over 6 hours. This segment is at ~40 mins 30 sec and only about 5 mins long (Alex drives me nuts so I won’t inflect him on you for longer than that.) I just want to help spike the guns of these syphilitic sons of she camels.

  92. philjourdan says:

    Coming in after the fact, a lot of information to digest. But what is most puzzling is the CNN setup posted by Larry. There is no law that says you have to do focus groups. It is actually to find out what had impact or not, and then to direct your campaign accordingly. It is doing the work of the campaigns. But when it is staged, that tells you nothing! It becomes your own echo chamber and does not resonate with anyone else.

    At least that is my take. What could possibly be the reason for it? I do not doubt it happens. But I fail to see the value in it. Indeed, it can only hurt in the long run if the “resonation” is only in your own head.

  93. Larry Ledwick says:

    @ philjourdan

    What could possibly be the reason for it? I do not doubt it happens. But I fail to see the value in it. Indeed, it can only hurt in the long run if the “resonation” is only in your own head.

    I believe they do it to falsely create the impression that what they want to happen is in fact true or to sell a meme to plant suggestions of talking points. People are much more likely to buy an idea if they think it originated with some average citizen than to be blatantly stated by some talking head.
    Much easier to sway people to do something if they believe they are “joining the crowd” by doing it. It is part of the whole false “everybody thinks she won” sales job they create by intentionally skewing the polls to show a response that is often directly opposed to the true facts on the ground.

    It is sort of like the situation where they drag you into the sales office after you say you want to buy a car and during the time you are negotiating a price and options you want, the sales manager sticks his head in the door and asks the salesman if he has closed the deal because he has another interested person on the line looking for the same car. Then it becomes well you better buy now or I will have to sell to this other guy – – do you want it?

  94. philjourdan says:

    Larry, What you are saying is that they are doing it for themselves. Those opposed to Trump are already going to glom onto any talking points, regardless of source. And the rest of the nation ignores them. So the MSM has become merely an egotistical echo chamber. They think they are relevant despite the polls showing that most of America does not give a whit about them and do not trust them as far as they can throw them.

    What this episode does do is expose the scam for what it is. Again, the ones opposed to Trump (and I am intentionally not saying liberals as I include the establishment of both parties in this) are going to deny it. Some others will ignore it. And the rest will just affirm that is what they knew all along.

  95. Larry Ledwick says:

    As an avid photographer I have noticed something about the recent discussion and comments asserting that Trump was “looming” over Hillary during the debates. First of all she is only 5′ 4″, Donald Trump is 6′ 2″, in size comparison there is now way to avoid that perception if the camera angle is correct.

    Now look at the two photos in this article:

    It was a set up shot, she intentionally walked over onto his side of the seating in the round stage so she was directly between him and the camera. From there perspective effects of the straight on shot with a long lens makes it look like he is only 3 feet behind her but it is really that “she” has positioned herself 5 ft in front of him in “his debate space” for a perfect down the throat shot from the closeup camera on that side of the stage.

    I would bet a lot of money that she was coached to do that during debate prep, I don’t recall Trump invading her debate space on her side of the stage in a similar manner. This setup was very reminiscent of Al Gores attempt to intimidate George Bush by crowding him during a debate.

  96. Gail Combs says:

    I linked to the Alex Jones marathon above and I have been slogging my way through it looking for any interesting bits. (See what I do for you guys? — At least Alex Jones and Roger Stone and Stefan Molyneux are of the Libertarian bent and can not stand the Clinton or the Bush tribe.)

    There is a Roger Stone interview between 3 hours 40min and 4 hours 12 min. Stone wrote the book The Clintons’ War on Women along with Robert Morrow so he has a lot of in-depth knowledge on Epstein and Epstein’s plane the “Lolita Express” He has actually looked at the passenger lists and Bill Clinton was on the plane numerous times but there is no listing for Trump.

    Epstein did try to snag Trump for a party but once he saw what was going on he retreated quickly (also discussed) The real crux of the matter is the planned bogus Pedophile Ambush based on Jane Does filing 22 years after the fact and an Obama appointed New York Judge.

    The key is the Statute of Limitations.


    In New York, if you were sexually abused as a minor, you must file your lawsuit within 5 years of reaching the age of 18. If you wait until after age 23 you will not be permitted to sue your abuser and seek compensation. The statute of limitations for filing a sex abuse or negligence claim against a third party such as a school or a church is three years However, if the acts of negligence occurred when you were a minor, the time period expires 3 years after your 18th birthday, at age 21.

    In matters of child sex abuse, New York has one of the shortest statutes of limitations in the U.S.

    That means they have to go for the Federal Sex crimes — link like pornography, slavery, kidnapping and going across state lines.

    Sex Crimes Statute of Limitations

    Under the modern federal rules, prosecution, trial or punitive sanctions regarding noncapital federal offenses cannot be instituted if no indictment or entry of information has occurred within five years of the offense. (See Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, §3282 et subs.) However, it is important to understand that the statute of limitations for some sex crimes is regularly extended between 7 and 10 years or more, especially for cases involving minors.

    Cornell is the best place for the specifics of laws.
    Age matters over 12 years and over 16 years for minors.

    Statute of Limitations:
    Looks like age 25 is max:

    But that is contradicted by this:

    Sec. 202. No statute of limitations for child abduction and sex crimes.
    Sec. 203. No pretrial release for those who rape or kidnap children.


    So this will set Trump up for a real mess. And all that will matter is the allegations and the MSM shouting 24/7 for him to be immediately jailed with no time for defence.

    No wonder they have been looking so hard for a judge that could be bought!

    One of Alex Jones reporters who has looked at law cases several times said the paperwork, which was shown with ‘Jane Doe’ was really really weird looking.

  97. Gail Combs says:

    A bit on polls.

    I just got a call from a polling company (Mcquire) The guy asked me three questions
    registered as, voting for, then age. At that point he quit but the phone did not hang up and I could hear the rest of the call center. The other callers got LOTS more questions!!!

    A quick search showed:

    I was polled tonight by McGuire Research.. – Democratic Underground
    Democratic Underground
    Nov 14, 2003 – 9 posts – ‎9 authors
    Have any of you been polled by this outfit?? The poor guy calling, said it would only take a few minutes.. It took almost 45 minutes….

    Looks like they were not interested in a FEMALE Trump supporter.

  98. tom0mason says:

    There is only one problem communicating with the modern electorate —


  99. Larry Ledwick says:

    Trump event in PA today, Jeff sessions starts at 39 minutes, Rudy Giuliani about 45


  100. Larry Ledwick says:

    Funny Trump spot

  101. E.M.Smith says:

    That was a funny spot!

    BTW, the BBC and DW news have as much as said Hillary has already won and Trump is over… DW claiming that The Republicans have thrown in the towel as the house speaker Ryan gives up on him… DW calling the special prosecutor line ‘like a 3rd world dictator’ putting the competition in prison, so unclear on our legal checks and balances.

    A Christian news show on TCT were ok with Trump due to abortion and the Supremes…

    RT more neutral, but worried Hillary is a war monger (likey accurate…)

    Just quite fun looking at the EU Globalists wearing their bias on their sleves.

  102. Larry Ledwick says:

    Yes I was noticing that same thing on twitter, UK and DW media are totally buying into Hillary is the only acceptable candidate and are regurgitating the hard left talking points.

    From twitter:

    Guardian news Verified account
    Who won last night’s debate? 68% say Trump, but here’s why it’s garbage

    The results right after the debate were in the 90% range for trump it only dropped to 68% after the HRC supporters started trolling the poll. But there is a clear bias in the international press for HRC.

  103. Gail Combs says:

    The debate in three pictures

    Seems Twitter has ALREADY removed this Hillary-ous 3 picture sequence.

    Luckily it has been saved in this comment HERE

    Ridicule is man’s most dangerous weapon.

  104. Larry Ledwick says:

    Trump and kid at PA rally

  105. Gail Combs says:

    More satire. (Dan Rather was a KGB operative)


    Hi Folks, Dan Rather here. I’m coming out of retirement to report this special CBS News bulletin.

    While a single fake but accurate memo from George W. Bush’s Air National Guard unit was enough to prove that he was unfit to be president, the thousands upon thousands of documents that prove Hillary Clinton’s corruption has the value of a dead possum on the side of a rural Texas highway.

    In other news, Hillary Clinton has announced that it was not true that Huma’s prayer rug would be located in the oval office if elected president. It will be in the East Room which has a better, unobstructed view of Mecca.

    Meanwhile, an employee at one of Donald Trump’s properties burned some popcorn in the microwave in the employee break room leaving a disgusting burnt smell throughout the office. Proving once again, that Donald Trump is unfit to be president.

    Stay with CBS News or any of our comrades at ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNBC, CNN, FOX, AP, NYT, WJS, BBC, Reuters, Gannett, Tribune, Telemundo, Univision, Comcast, Sony, Weinstein Companies, Harpo Productions, Facebook, Yahoo, Google and Al Jazeera for the latest breaking news on the Donald Trump scandal of the day.


  106. Gail Combs says:

    I’m sorry to report this but that big black fly met an untimely demise after the debate.

    Hillary gives new meaning to skeletons in the closet(s).

    (People are really having fun with that fly.)

  107. Gail Combs says:

    Bill Ivey of Global Cultural Strategies
    “…Cultural Policy shapes and directs the Expressive Life of societies through the framework of law, regulation, and customary practice that governs the creation, distribution, consumption, and preservation of knowledge, information, and art.
    All societies have cultural policy.
    The United States has neither a cultural ministry nor department of cultural affairs…..”


    ….From 1998 through 2001 Ivey served in the Clinton-Gore administration as Senate-confirmed chairman of the National Endowment for the Arts, and in that capacity is credited with both increasing the agency’s budget and restoring good relations between the NEA and Capitol Hill.
    Bill Ivey is a trustee of the Center for American Progress, and was a Team Leader in the Barack Obama presidential transition….
    Ivey has extensive experience in the music industry.  He was director of Nashville’s Country Music Hall of Fame and Museum for more than two decades, and was twice elected chairman of the National Academy of Recording Arts & Sciences. He is a four-time Grammy Award nominee. He is past president of the American Folklore Society, and today serves the Society as Senior Advisor for China.

    Bill Ivey to John Podesta

    To: john.podesta@gmail.com
    Date: 2016-03-13 17:06
    Subject: From Bill Ivey

    Well, we all thought the big problem for our US democracy was Citizens United/Koch Brothers big money in politics. Silly us; turns out that money isn’t all that important if you can conflate entertainment with the electoral process. Trump masters TV, TV so-called news picks up and repeats and repeats to death this opinionated blowhard and his hairbrained ideas, free-floating discontent attaches to a seeming strongman and we’re off and running. JFK, Jr would be delighted by all this as his “George” magazine saw celebrity politics coming.

    The magazine struggled as it was ahead of its time but now looks prescient. George, of course, played the development pretty lightly, basically for charm and gossip, like People, but what we are dealing with now is dead serious. How does this get handled in the general? Secretary Clinton is not an entertainer, and not a celebrity in the Trump, Kardashian mold; what can she do to offset this? I’m certain the poll-directed insiders are sure things will default to policy as soon as the conventions are over, but I think not. And as I’ve mentioned, we’ve all been quite content to demean government, drop civics and in general conspire to produce an unaware and compliant citizenry. The unawareness remains strong but compliance is obviously fading rapidly. This problem demands some serious, serious thinking – and not just poll driven, demographically-inspired messaging.

    Rubio’s press conference yesterday AM was good and should be repeated in its entirety, not just in nibbles. I will attend the Clinton fundraiser here next week but as I can only afford the low level of participation may just get to wave without a “hello.”

    I fear we are all now trying to navigate a set of forces that cannot be simply explained or fully understood, so it is and will reamin interesting! Sent with a handshake, Bill


  108. Gail Combs says:

    If there was any doubt that facebook was helping elect Hillary that doubt is put to bed.
    I added notes on who is who.


    Sheryl Kara Sandberg… is an American technology executive, activist, and author. She is the Chief Operating Officer of Facebook and founder of Leanin.org (also known as the Lean In Foundation). In June 2012, she was elected to the board of directors by the existing board members,[5] becoming the first woman to serve on Facebook’s board. Before she joined Facebook as its COO, Sandberg was Vice President of Global Online Sales and Operations at Google and was involved in launching Google’s philanthropic arm Google.org. Before Google, Sandberg served as chief of staff for United States Secretary of the Treasury Lawrence Summers.


    Lawrence Henry “Larry” Summers (born November 30, 1954) is an American economist who is President Emeritus and Charles W. Eliot University Professor of Harvard University….
    …n 1999, he succeeded Rubin as Secretary of the Treasury. While working for the Clinton administration Summers played a leading role in the American response to the 1994 economic crisis in Mexico, the 1997 Asian financial crisis, and the Russian financial crisis. He was also influential in the American advised privatization of the economies of the post-Soviet states, and in the deregulation of the U.S financial system, including the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act.
    Following the end of Clinton’s term, Summers served as the 27th President of Harvard University from 2001 to 2006. Summers resigned as Harvard’s president in the wake of a no-confidence vote by Harvard faculty…..

    To: jbenenson@bsgco.com,[Joel Benenson, founder and CEO of Benenson Strategy Group, is Democratic pollster]
    hellowendyclark@me.com, [Coca-Cola’s president of sparkling brands and strategic marketing in North America now DDB Worldwide, a marketing co. appointed her as president and CEO of North America ]
    Jim.Margolis@gmmb.com, [an American political consultant and communications executive, Senior Advisor to Barack Obama campaigns]
    kristinakschake@gmail.com [pecial Assistant to the President and Director of Communications for the First Lady Obama]

    Date: 2015-02-21 03:26
    Subject: Re: Gender Research
    great –
    thank you all will figure out a space and revert.

    john – I saw your email – we could start at 930am and got to 1030am if that 30 minutes helps you for the 11am?
    otherwise, I was purposefully putting in when I thought folks would be likely to be in town.
    adding jen and kristina to traffic and will have joanne circulate timing and location next week. for now if folks could hold from this time I would appreciate it.

    On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Joel Benenson wrote: >
    Yes. I can do it. I would also like to bring Katie Connolly, the VP [of Benenson Strategy Group]
    who is working with me on all HRC work if that’s OK

    On Feb 20, 2015, at 6:22 PM, Cheryl Mills wrote: > >
    I have arranged for *Sheryl Sandberg and her researcher to be available on 5 March at 10am to step through the research on gender and leadership by women*.
    The HRC meeting begins at 11am.

    Are you available then for such a meeting?
    If so, who else should be included?

  109. Gail Combs says:

    Excellent Analysis of Agenda Polling to brain wash the public.

    Media Polling Fully Exposed – About That NBC/WSJ Clinton +11 Point Poll….
    The Real Battle, is The Battle For Your Mind

    It shows the usual vetted and tested psy-op phrase repeated by all the media “Clinton Double-digit lead” (After the RNC nomination the word was DANGEROUS)

    Never forget that the media’s job is to give PLAUSIBILITY to the election steal. If the ACTUAL polls, showing Trump with the Double-digit lead, were published, then there would be a revolt the day after the rigged election putting Hillary in the White House.

    We even say the Drudge report at 5:00 am after the debate with 90% thinking Trump won the debate. Most of the rest of the polls showed Trump at ~70% or better even the left leaning rags had Trump slightly ahead. But as soon as the work day hit the Hillary count really started spinning as the Clintonbots hit all the polls including Drudge.

    I think Matt is looking into the situation.

    This is really an all out war and the goal is the completed destruction of the US Constitution and the USA as a world leader and independent country.

  110. Gail Combs says:

    Lots of interesting snips here:
    Matt Forney New Leaked John Podesta Emails Show Hillary’s Relationship with ISIS-Supporting Saudis

    Unfortunately he does not have a link to the source email so you have to stuff a phrase into the wikileaks search engine

    Here is one about Chelsea Clinton being a spoiled rotten brat.
    Doug is Doug Band “Teneo is an international advisory firm and investment banking organization.” (Also WIKI)

    Date: 2011-11-13 12:21 Subject:
    Re: Draft of Doug’s Teneo et al memo

    On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Doug Band wrote:
    Need get this asap to them although I’m sure cvc won’t believe it to be true bc she doesn’t want to. Even though the facts speak for themselves.

    John, I would appreciate your feedback and any suggestions

    I’m also starting to worry that if this story gets out, we are screwed.

    Dk and I built a business. 65 people work for us who have wives and husbands and kids, they all depend on us. Our business has almost nothing to do with the clintons, the foundation or cgi [Clinton Global Initiative] in any way. The chairman of ubs could care a less about cgi. Our fund clients who we do restructuring and m and a advising the same just as bhp nor tivo do. These are real companies who we provide real advice to through very serious people. Comm head for goldman, dep press secretary to bloomberg, former head of banking, and his team, from morgan stanley for asia and latin am.

    I realize it is difficult to confront and reason with her but this could go to far and then we all will have a real serious set of other problems. I don’t deserve this from her and deserve a tad more respect or at least a direct dialogue for me to explain these things. She is acting like a spoiled brat kid who has nothing else to do but create issues to justify what she’s doing because she, as she has said, hasn’t found her way and has a lack of focus in her life. I realize she will be off of this soon but if it doesn’t come soon enough….

  111. philjourdan says:

    @Gail – Re: Hillary Fly – I loved the comment and picture showing Putin ordering the hit. LOL

  112. Gail Combs says:

    Illegal to have coordination between super PAC (Priorities USA) and candidates (Clinton).

    John Podesta is Hillary’s Campaign manager

    Fwd: Attorney-Client Communication

    To: class=”sh” john.podesta@gmail.com
    Date: 2015-04-23 00:21
    Subject: Fwd: Attorney-Client Communication

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Elias, Marc (Perkins Coie)
    Date: Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 8:38 PM
    Subject: Attorney-Client Communication
    To: John Podesta ,
    Robby Mook ,
    Huma Abedin ,
    Dennis Cheng ,
    Charles Baker ,
    Cheryl Mills
    Cc: “Berkon, Jonathan (Perkins Coie)” ,
    “Bull, Leslie (Perkins Coie)”

    Memo re interaction with Priorities.

    Attached is a memo addressing several recent questions regarding interacting with Priorities. —

    Marc E. Elias Perkins Coie LLP 700 13th St, NW Washington, DC 20005 202-434-1609 (ph) 202-654-9126 (fax) melias@perkinscoie.com

    —————————— NOTICE: This communication may contain privileged or other confidential information. If you have received it in error, please advise the sender by reply email and immediately delete the message and any attachments without copying or disclosing the contents. Thank you. — JP jp66@hillaryclinton.com For scheduling: mfisher@hillaryclinton.com

    Jonathan Berkon, Coie LLP
    “Jonathan S. Berkon
    Jonathan Berkon focuses his practice on political law, including federal and state campaign finance law and ethics and gift regulations at the federal, state and local levels. He also advises investment advisers, political action committees (PACs) and candidates on the new Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) pay-to-play rule; counsels Internet and technology companies on political advertising sales; and, in the wake of Citizens United, assists nonprofits and 527 organizations that wish to participate in the political process.”

    So they darn well KNEW the communication was ILLEGAL.

    Charles Baker is the contact at the Super PAC/.
    Meet the Democratic heavy-hitters at Priorities USA

    Meet the Democratic heavy-hitters at Priorities USA
    The super PAC has assembled a team of power players — including seasoned campaign operatives, prominent interest group advocates, union leaders and corporate lobbyists….

    Charles Baker III
    Best known as: Adviser for the Kerry-Edwards campaign in 2004, Gore-Lieberman in 2000 and Clinton-Gore in 1992 A founding partner of the lobbying and PR firm Dewey Square Group, Baker is also a registered lobbyist at DLA Piper.

  113. Gail Combs says:

    Hillary is taking money from Saudi Arabia and KNOWS they support ISIS!

    (Larry should read this whole email. It is long and I do not have the knowledge to understand what is actually being said about the military aspects.)


    From: john podesta [Campaign Manager}
    To: hrod17 [Hillary]
    Date: 2014-09-27 15:15

    ….we need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and other radical Sunni groups in the region….

    If the USA had provided the support asked for by Stevens this would have happened:

    “…7. (Note: A source in Tripoli stated in confidence that when the U.S. Embassy was evacuated, the presence of two U.S. Navy jet fighters over the city brought all fighting to a halt for several hours, as Islamist forces were not certain that these aircraft would not also provide close ground support for moderate government forces.)…

    ….the advance of ISIL through Iraq gives the U.S. Government an opportunity to change the way it deals with the chaotic security situation in North Africa and the Middle East. The most important factor in this matter is to make use of intelligence resources and Special Operations troops in an aggressive manner, while avoiding the old school solution, which calls for more traditional military operations. In Iraq it is important that we engage ISIL using the resources of the Peshmerga fighters of the Kurdish Regional Government (KRG), and what, if any, reliable units exist in the Iraqi Army. The Peshmerga commanders are aggressive hard fighting troops, who have long standing relationships with CIA officers and Special Forces operators. However, they will need the continued commitment of U.S. personnel to work with them as advisors and strategic planners….

  114. E.M.Smith says:


    At one time I’d have thought this “over the top” ideation. Now, thanks to Facts In Evidence, it seems a terse statement of the Soros driven Globalist Agenda…

    “This is really an all out war and the goal is the completed destruction of the US Constitution and the USA as a world leader and independent country.”

    From the “commissions” hiding in plain sight in the “Trade Deals” who’s purpose is to remove sovereign control from nations, to the “U.N. Agreements” that do the same, to the abuse of Executive Power creating a defacto dictator and the corruption of ever agency (now including the FBI and Dept. Of Justice) to assure actions have no risk of legal recourse and so much more. (Not to mention siphoning $Billions into NGOs and using parasitized Agencies and NGOs for political goals, and faux ‘outrage’ in the streets, end… quite a machine. Even the 4th Estate now more active partisan than check nor balance.)

    All directed at one end: The End Of Nations.

    It really is pretty stark and fairly clear now. Sigh.

    (And I had thought those recorded talks / meetings where international political ‘leaders’ were musing about the end of the Westphalian State were just idle muses by overly educated dandies reaching for dinner conversation to impress… )

  115. Gail Combs says:

    More on the Doug Brand/Clintons stuff

    On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Doug Band – doug AT presidentclinton wrote:

    Let’s do a call and discuss this Document is mostly fine with a few

    Late last night, laura graham called me as she couldn’t reach my brother or her shrink. She was on staten island in her car parked a few feet from the waters edge with her foot on the gas pedal and the car in park. She called me to tell me the stress of all of this office crap with wjc [William J Clinton] and cvc [Chelsea Clinton] as well as that of her family had driven her to the edge and she couldn’t take it anymore. I spent a while on the phone with her preventing her from doing that, as I have a few times in the past few months, and was able to reach roger and her shrink.

    Bruce said the stress of specifically the office had caused his very serious health issues as you both know. But I’m sure chelsea is more concerned with a mostly false story in the distinguished ny post about mf global and teneo not her role in what happened to laura/bruce, what she is doing to the organization or the several of stories that have appeared in the ny post about her father and a multitude of women over the years.

    For teneo, well before mf global, we have been discussing this. Its going to hurt teneo to have wjc on the adv bd any longer but we need come up with a reorg concept for the relationship with wjc [William J Clinton] and teneo that is lower key and handled privately and properly that we should discuss

    Life is to short so let’s have a call and get this over with

    Matt Forney is doing Trump no favors because he is taking a lot of stuff out of context and misinterpreting stuff. I think that is why he does not link back to the primary source. For example he took the first part of the above and said it was WJC not Chelsea.

  116. Will Janoschka says:

    Thank you so much Mr Smith for this thread! Thanks also to Larry Ledwick and Gail Combs for their highly informed comments! Trump’s special prosecutor remark for Hittlery rang like a wake up bell for many voters. May she and the obummer ‘hope’ to be treated as nicely and gently as was John Christopher “Chris” Stevens (April 18, 1960 – September 11, 2012) during his assassination. They both seem to be willingly knowledgeable and complicit in such atrocity!!

  117. Will Janoschka says:

    E.M.Smith says: 11 October 2016 at 3:55 pm

    “Gail, At one time I’d have thought this “over the top” ideation. Now, thanks to Facts In Evidence, it seems a terse statement of the Soros driven Globalist Agenda…”

    You gots to be peddling faster, if you are going to catch up!

    “All directed at one end: The End Of Nations. It really is pretty stark and fairly clear now. Sigh.”

    Please try for some hope!! The combined armed forces of the US military are highly trained and quite intelligent!! They would not consider conflict against the combined armed forces of the US population. They tried that once long ago, and we all have been suffering ever since! Strong memories have been passed on, not forgotten!

  118. Gail Combs says:

    Will Janoschka,
    We didn’t say that Hillary Clinton, George Soros, David Rockefeller and their buddies didn’t have several screws loose.

    Do not forget these are the SAME people who think there are WAY too many people on the earth. The USA has already used ‘dirty bombs’ in the middle east.

    The conduct of secret nuclear wars since 1991, through the use of depleted uranium weaponry by the United States and Great Britain with their allies, has taken place in the Middle East, the former Yugoslavia, Afghanistan2 and Lebanon.3 It has been carried out for the express purpose of destroying the public health and mutilating the genetic future of vast populations in oil rich and/or pipeline regions.

    Carpet and grid bombing with depleted uranium weaponry in Iraq, Yugoslavia and Afghanistan has guaranteed permanent radioactive terrain contamination. The recent discovery that U.S. depleted uranium bombs dropped by Israel on Lebanon in 2006 contained enriched uranium4,5 suggests covert testing of fourth generation nuclear weapons.

    The United States and its allies are fully aware that this weaponry violates the Geneva and Hague Conventions and the 1925 Geneva Poison Gas Protocol.6 It meets the definition of WMD in the U.S. Code7 in two out of three categories. And its use violates U.S. military law.8 since the U.S. is a signatory to The Hague and Geneva Conventions…. link

    These are the SAME people who would not harden the US electric Grid against an EMP attack. (The bill failed) But have zero problem tossing gobs of money at useless Windmills and Solar panels.
    Wiping out the electrical grid (plus sensitive electronics) will KILL 90% of the US Population according to this report.


    MAY 8, 2014 [43 pages]

    pg 12
    Dr. Peter Vincent Pry is the executive director of the Task Force on National and Homeland Security, a Congressional advisory board dedicated to achieving protection of the United States from electromagnetic pulse and other threats. Dr. Pry is also the director of the United States Nuclear Strategy Forum, an advisory body to Congress on policies to counter weapons of mass destruction….


    Natural EMP from a geomagnetic super-storm like the 1859 Carrington Event or the 1921 Railroad Storm, a nuclear EMP attack from terrorists or rogue states as practiced by North Korea during the nuclear crisis of 2013 are both existential threats that could kill 9 of 10 Americans through starvation, disease, and societal collapse.

    A natural EMP catastrophe or nuclear EMP attack could black out the National electric grid for months or years and collapse all the other critical infrastructures, communications, transportation, banking and finance, food and water, necessary to sustain modern society and the lives of 310 million Americans. Passage of the SHIELD Act to protect the National electric grid is urgently necessary. In 2010, after the House unanimously passed the GRID Act, if one Senator had not put a hold on the bill, today in 2014 the Nation would already be protected …..

    The single most important thing Congress could do to protect the American people from EMP and from all the other threats to critical infrastructures is pass the Critical Infrastructure Protect Act, which bill is soon or will be before this committee for consideration. Thousands of emergency planners and first responders at the Federal, State, and local level want to protect our Nation and their States and communities from the EMP threat, but they are seriously hindered and even prohibited from doing so because the EMP threat is not among the 15 canonical National planning scenarios utilized by the Department of Homeland Security.

    Passage of the Critical Infrastructure Protection Act would immediately mobilize thousands of emergency planners and first responders at all levels of government and educate millions of others about the EMP threat and how to prepare for it. Passage of the Critical Infrastructure Protection Act would immediately help States that are frustrated with the lack of action on EMP in Washington and are trying to launch initiatives protecting their electrical grids from EMP, as is being attempted now in Maine, Virginia, Oklahoma, and Florida. Passage of the Critical Infrastructure Protection Act would educate all States about the EMP threat and help them protect their critical infrastructures. For example, projects in New York and Massachusetts to harden their State grids against severe weather caused by climate change should include protection against an EMP event, which is the worst threat to the grid. If the grid is protected against EMP, it will mitigate all lesser threats, including cyber attack, sabotage, and severe weather.

    Given the amounts of money being spent in New York and Massachusetts on grid hardening against severe weather, significant EMP protection can probably be accomplished now within their current budgets, but the cost of EMP protection will increase significantly if they delay and attempt remediation later.

    EMP is a clear and present danger. A Carrington-class coronal mass ejection narrowly missed the earth in July 2012. Last April, during the nuclear crisis with North Korea over Kim Jong-Un’s threatened nuclear strikes against the United States, Pyongyang apparently practiced an EMP attack with its KSM–3 satellite that passed over the U.S. heartland and over the Washington, D.C.-New York City corridor. Iran, estimated to be within 2 months of nuclear weapons by the administration, has a demonstrated capability to launch an EMP attack from a vessel at sea. The Iranian Revolutionary Guard Navy commenced patrols off the East Coast of the United States in February…..

    Click to access CHRG-113hhrg89763.pdf

    TRUST these people??? NO WAY IN HADES!

    Clinton has already said she views 3/4 of the US population as a Bucket of Losers (Bernies people) or an Irredeemable Basket of Deplorables, (Trump’s people)

  119. Larry Ledwick says:


    (Larry should read this whole email. It is long and I do not have the knowledge to understand what is actually being said about the military aspects.)

    Podesta actually gives pretty good advice there but it is time dependent and the window for that set of actions has long closed. As he noted and is shown in the movie 13 hours when they could not get clearance to provide kinetic (gun ships troops etc.) a request for an over flight by fighter jets was made to “put the fear of god” into the attackers since they would have no way of knowing if these were aircraft armed and authorize hot on weapons or just observation. At the right time something as simple as a pair of F-16’s or F-18’s doing a low altitude pass on full burner sends a pretty strong message but it only lasts for a limited time. Same goes for out actions agains ISIL, if in the early days before they over ran major Iraq units and were moving in the open in large convoys of technicals (ie armed pickup trucks) a single B-52 strike could have taken out hundreds of them and sent a very strong message of intent of the U.S. to deal with the situation.

    Bruce Lee in his writing about the art of combat talked about “a hit in time” meaning a fast sharp strike at just the right moment to disrupt an attack (like a sharp jab to the nose) as the opponent steps in to try to over whelm you with a strong attack. The hit in time in and of itself is not strong or powerful enough to cause much damage but it can completely change the psychology of the contest and disrupt timing giving you an opportunity to do something else.

    As I understand it to wash our hands of direct action we have sold billions of dollars of weapons to the Sunni (Salafi) Saudies and they in turn are shipping them into Syria. Given their political opposition to Iran, they are as often used against Iran forces opposed to the ISIL, and Syrian Rebel units as they are directly against ISIL. As a result you have a mishmash of small factions often with conflicted loyalties fighting for multiple different objectives. The result is basically protracted civil war. Meanwhile Russia in order to protect its warm water Mediterranean sea port and to re-establish its cold war period influence in the middle east has gone all in to protect Assad and his granting of base rights to them. It appears that they have decided that a controllable Turkish lead caliphate is preferable to an uncontrollable caliphate under ISIL control. By giving Erdogan a green light to serve his islamic interests and counter balance the ISIS influence in the region and a finger in the Iranian pie (nuclear reactor construction, technical assistance and general military coordination) it appears that they are willing to sacrifice that whole region from Syria, northern Iraq, and Iran to a bloody house cleaning to set up Erdogan as the defacto head of the new radical islam and future legitimate caliphate (ie re-creating the Ottoman empire – or at least the northern half of it from circa 1914)


    That would not be totally irrational since the ottoman empire was stable for a long time but being an historical enemy of Russia they would rather have Turkey (on their side and at least influenced by them ) rather than NATO.

    I think Obama and HRC basically squandered a very small window for action and have given away the store in that part of the world. They basically burned down 60 year or so of efforts to establish modern reasonably secular democracies in the middle east. It will take a generation to fix this (if it even can be fixed). Basically we are now paying the price for arbitrary borders setup by the British after WWI when the new modern middle east countries were created out of the old Ottoman Empire.

  120. Larry Ledwick says:

    Sorry this is total BS

    The conduct of secret nuclear wars since 1991, through the use of depleted uranium weaponry by the United States and Great Britain with their allies, has taken place in the Middle East, the former Yugoslavia, Afghanistan2 and Lebanon.3 It has been carried out for the express purpose of destroying the public health and mutilating the genetic future of vast populations in oil rich and/or pipeline regions.

    Carpet and grid bombing with depleted uranium weaponry in Iraq, Yugoslavia and Afghanistan has guaranteed permanent radioactive terrain contamination. The recent discovery that U.S. depleted uranium bombs dropped by Israel on Lebanon in 2006 contained enriched uranium4,5 suggests covert testing of fourth generation nuclear weapons.

    There is a very good tactical reason for using depleted uranium penetrator ammunition and it has nothing to do with some evil plan. It is the application of very simple physics and ballistics principles.

    The ability of an anti tank munition to penetrate armor is directly related to the core material of the round. For a kinetic penetrator you need a long dense hard material to have good enough penetration to get to the interior of the tank. Depleted Uranium happens to have the characteristics to do this (plus a couple other weapons effects) and it is cheap (we have a lot of it as a result of nuclear weapons and nuclear fuel production.

    Unlike soft lead, depleted uranium is about as hard as mild steel, yet denser than lead (ie an ideal penetrator material on those grounds alone). It also has a self sharpening effect where on impact instead of smashing and expanding like lead, it breaks off pieces near the edge of the penetrator rod leaving a sharp point even after initial impact. It is also a pyrophoric metal, meaning that when finely powdered and heated is easily self ignites on ballistic impact forming a hot incendiary fire ball at the point of impact. It burns very hot like magnesium but also has the other useful characteristics that make it ideal for an armor penetrating round.

    They did not use depleted uranium because they were evil they used it because it was the absolutely best penetrator material available at the lowest possible cost. (they use tungsten rod penetrators in tank rounds but it is more expensive and does not provide the incendiary effects of depleted uranium, but the guns (being larger) have enough energy to drive it completely through the tank armor, where the smaller guns used in the A-10 needed the added terminal effects of the uranium and needed to be cheap since the shoot up thousands of rounds in a few seconds.

    When those rounds were designed they were looking for a way to stop massed Russian armor attacks considerations like a little natural uranium returned to the earth were it came from was not that big a deal, and they certainly were not worried about the late health effects on the tank crews due to the use of this material.

  121. Will Janoschka says:

    Will Janoschka,
    “We didn’t say that Hillary Clinton, George Soros, David Rockefeller and their buddies didn’t have several screws loose. Do not forget these are the SAME people who think there are WAY too many people on the earth. The USA has already used ‘dirty bombs’ in the middle east.”

    Ok Gail! You continue to spout political fantasy with absolutely no evidence of some physical ‘is’! Only political garbage! Please propose anything that may be technically verified as correct!

  122. catweazle666 says:

    “Sorry this is total BS”

    So is most of the the scary shite about EMP.

    The Soviets exploded the Tsar Bomba 50 megaton test on October 30, 1961 at a height of around four kilometres and caused next to zero disruption of electronic devices.

    Anyone worried about EMP needs to consider the inverse square law.

    As for DU, I saw a “Liberal” theory that depleted uranium bombs had been used to bring down the Twin Towers, their theory being that depleting it took all the radioactivity out, so when the bombs detonated, they left no radioactive fingerprint.

    Try explaining to them that it is less radioactive than cigarette ash, and that is also used for radiation shielding for isotope containers and as ballast for aircraft.

  123. Gail Combs says:

    More on Hillary and enabling rapists (Useful to send to women who are stupid enough to believe her.)

  124. Gail Combs says:

    Another goodie showing Clinton Lies using clips of what she actually said over time.

    It goes real well with that e-mail saying she has a public and a private policy.


  125. Will Janoschka says:

    Gail Combs says: 11 October 2016 at 11:17 pm
    “More on Hillary and enabling rapists (Useful to send to women who are stupid enough to believe her.)”
    Gail, Here on Sir Smith’s technical blog, we try to avoid the total political Bull Shit! Why o why do you insist on re-introducing such political Bull Shit? :-)

  126. Larry Ledwick says:

    The Soviets exploded the Tsar Bomba 50 megaton test on October 30, 1961 at a height of around four kilometres and caused next to zero disruption of electronic devices.

    EMP output is not highly correlated with total energy yield of the blast, it is the prompt gamma output of the device that determines the EMP effect (along with proper altitude of burst to take advantage of asymmetrical distribution of electric charge as that gamma radiation ionizes the atmosphere near the burst point.

    A height of 4 km is not high enough to produce significant EMP effects, it has to be detonated above about 100km for the ideal necessary unsymmetrical distribution of charge to create EMP.
    There is local EMP from any nuclear burst but at lower altitudes it is highly localized and totally overwhelmed by blast and thermal effects. From intermediate altitudes 20 km+ it is somewhat localized due to the short horizon distance illuminated by the EMP.

    As far as legitimate EMP tests the Soviet Union has a lot more live test data than we do because their nuclear tests were conducted over land. In some of their tests the had extraordinary damage from the tests. Burned down a power plant, caused surges in cables buried about a meter below the ground surface etc. With modern enhanced EMP designs (so called super EMP weapons the published fears are very real and appropriate)


    Note I was trained by FEMA to inspect Emergency Operations Centers and other installations for proper EMP protection (although the program was canceled when they realized they had a huge liability exposure for non-engineers giving recommendations on power and broadcast installations)

  127. Gail Combs says:

    Thanks Larry, That is why I asked you to look at it. Military is NOT something I have expertise in.

    Will Janoschka,

    It is pretty obvious that the Clintons could care less about people. Podesta : Hillary Hates Americans

    For evidence, outside the emails, all you have to do is look at what they did to Haiti.

    Also Check out:
    Overpopulation: The Fallacy Behind The Fallacy Of Global Warming by Dr Tim Ball @ WUWT

    The Club of Rome 1972 book The Limits to Growth
    The Limits to Growth • Club of Rome

    The message of this book still holds today: The earth’s interlocking resources – the global system of nature in which we all live – probably cannot support present rates of economic and population growth much beyond the year 2100, if that long, even with advanced technology. In the summer of 1970, an international team of researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology began a study of the implications of continued worldwide growth….

    Between 1969 and 1974 the world was having a grain crisis as documented in the 1974 CIA REPORT: A study of Climatological Reseach as it Pertains to Intelligence Problems

    This I think is what kicked off the concern about too many people among the elite.
    John Holdren, Obama’s Science Czar, says: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet
    Book he authored in 1977 advocates for extreme totalitarian measures to control the population

    And Holdren has never changed his stance.

    Then there is Pascal Lamy:
    Whither Globalization?

    You have to put together the bits and pieces, I really wish I had captured the quote from Carol Quigley that made it very very clear they think of us as ranchers think of livestock and have ZERO problems “culling the herd”

    If you do not believe this can happen I suggest you read: Democide, Death by Government the millions and millions of innocent people slaughtered by their own government

    Thus, the new world total: old total 1900-1999 = 174,000,000. New World total = 174,000,000 + 38,000,000 (new for China) + 50,000,000 (new for Colonies) = 262,000,000.

    Just to give perspective on this incredible murder by government, if all these bodies were laid head to toe, with the average height being 5′, then they would circle the earth ten times. Also, this democide murdered 6 times more people than died in combat in all the foreign and internal wars of the century. Finally, given popular estimates of the dead in a major nuclear war, this total democide is as though such a war did occur, but with its dead spread over a century….

    So yeah, I have zero problem believing that Hillary Clinton would get us into a really nasty war, probably with nukes. And I think George Soros and David Rockefeller are as sociopathic as she is.

  128. Will Janoschka says:

    Larry Ledwick says: 11 October 2016 at 11:52 pm
    “Note I was trained by FEMA to inspect Emergency Operations Centers and other installations for proper EMP protection (although the program was canceled when they realized they had a huge liability exposure for non-engineers giving recommendations on power and broadcast installations)”

    So Larry Ledwick, you admit that you are but a trained FEMA idiot, That claims some actual physical understanding/ knowledge of anything! Larry I understand some of your writings! very good very clear! I wish you all the best in your efforts!

  129. Jeff says:

    Depleted Uranium is, nonetheless, Uranium, albeit not quite so radioactive.

    The areas over and in which it has been dispersed are barren, as if they had been covered with salt. Regardless of the density or the effectiveness of DU as munition, I don’t think it is justified,
    no matter who the foe.

    Much like many a malapropism cannot be unsaid; DU cannot be made neutral. Much as I hate the “bad guys”, I cannot justify the good guys and OUR progeny having to pay for it, no matter what the way, shape, or form is.

  130. Will Janoschka says:

    Jeff says: 12 October 2016 at 12:38 am
    “Depleted Uranium is, nonetheless, Uranium, albeit not quite so radioactive.”

    And just who is Jeff? Depleted U is more inert than depleted B,C, D, or F!

    “The areas over and in which it has been dispersed are barren, as if they had been covered with salt. Regardless of the density or the effectiveness of DU as munition, I don’t think it is justified, no matter who the foe. Much like many a malapropism cannot be unsaid; DU cannot be made neutral. Much as I hate the “bad guys”, I cannot justify the good guys and OUR progeny having to pay for it, no matter what the way, shape, or form is.”

    SO WHAT {insult deleted -Mod}?

  131. Gail Combs says:

    I only brought up the use of the Depleted Uranium to show they are not afraid to use it.

    If you look at the Chernobyl Accident – World Nuclear Association

    …UNSCEAR says that apart from increased thyroid cancers, “there is no evidence of a major public health impact attributable to radiation exposure 20 years after the accident.”
    Resettlement of areas from which people were relocated is ongoing. In 2011 Chernobyl was officially declared a tourist attraction.

    And at Hiroshima and Nagasaki since 1945 – World Nuclear Association

    To the 103,000 deaths from the blast or acute radiation exposure at Hiroshima and Nagasaki have since been added those due to radiation induced cancers and leukaemia, which amounted to some 400 within 30 years, and which may ultimately reach about 550. (Some 93,000 exposed survivors were still being monitored 50 years later.) There was an increase in leukaemia beginning about two years later and peaking at four to six years later, and other cancers beginning about ten years later. There was no evident to suggest an increase in leukaemia at less than 500 mSv acute dose. At an acute dose of 100 mSv, an increased cancer risk of 1.05 times normal was calculated. There was concern about ingestion or inhalation of radionuclides, but fires released far higher levels of non-radioactive carcinogens. Teratogenic effects on foetuses was severe among those heavily exposed, resulting in birth deformities and stillbirths over the next nine months. Beyond this, no genetic damage has been detected in survivors’ children, despite careful and continuing investigation by a joint Japanese-US Foundation……

    Both cities were rebuilt soon after the war and have become important industrial centres. The population of Hiroshima has grown to over one million and that of Nagasaki to 440,000. Major industries in Hiroshima today are machinery, automotive (Mazda) and food processing, those in Nagasaki are associated with its international port, particularly Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, now a major nuclear reactor supplier…..

    And you are looking long term and don’t care about people, then yes I could see, for example China getting North Korea to attack or Russia getting Iran to attack or Hillary being idiotic enough to attack Russia.

    Don’t forget that Bill Clinton gave our nuclear weapons technology to China while crippling the USA so we are now not much better than a paper tiger. Chasing the Dragon: Clinton’s China Policy. Obama finished the job by purging the high command of decent officers and leaving the a$$ kissers.

    And yeah, I should have checked The World Nuclear Org on Depleted Uranium.

  132. Jeff says:

    Call me an idiot?

    Get lost, troll.

    Depleted Uranium (please, learn how to spell) is INDEED a problem.

    I have SEVEN decades on this depraved earth, including FOUR of deep-level research and systems engineering and operating systems DEVELOPMENT.

    I also live not far from where this radiation spews. And my progeny are at risk from it.

    Please choose your words wisely, as some day you may have to eat them.

  133. Will Janoschka says:

    Gail Combs says: 12 October 2016 at 1:28 am
    “I only brought up the use of the Depleted Uranium to show they are not afraid to use it.”

    Gail, Please use Mr. Smith’s blog for whatever you wish! Please please do not involve the careful technical details of Mr. Smith’s blog in your attack on the “WITCH”! I support your attack! but both I and E M wish to retain some personal dignity, and some level of personal integrity! Thank you very much!

    [REPLY: Please do not speak for me nor invoke my name for your positions. The only person who can speak for me IS me. -E.M.Smith]

  134. Will Janoschka says:

    Jeff says: 12 October 2016 at 1:55 am

    Call me an idiot? Get lost, troll.
    Depleted Uranium (please, learn how to spell) is INDEED a problem.
    “I have SEVEN decades on this depraved earth, including FOUR of deep-level research and systems engineering and operating systems DEVELOPMENT.”
    So now You claim to be a near 80 year old idiot that has never accomplished anything! Just what have you accomplished that is of any use to anyone?
    “I also live not far from where this radiation spews. And my progeny are at risk from it.”
    Just where does such ‘radiation’ spew? Your progeny likely dispatch quickly from your local if they have any intelligence whatsoever!

  135. H.R. says:

    I’ve been busy today shopping for assisted living for my 94-years-old mother, but am I missing something here? I haven’t been called an “Idiot” yet today. Oh well… the day isn’t over.

  136. Will Janoschka says:

    H.R. says: 12 October 2016 at 2:34 am

    “I’ve been busy today shopping for assisted living for my 94-years-old mother, but am I missing something here? I haven’t been called an “Idiot” yet today. Oh well… the day isn’t over.”
    Likely trying to get along trying! Most all do that. It takes a special politician to become an “idiot”!

  137. H.R. says:

    W.J. – oblique commentary on site policy by me. That’s all.

  138. Will Janoschka says:

    H.R. says: 12 October 2016 at 3:10 am

    “W.J. – oblique commentary on site policy by me. That’s all.”

    HOKAY! Here try to do conjugate vector mathematics for understanding by anyone! GRINN!

  139. Larry Ledwick says:

    Trump-o-crat video

  140. Larry Ledwick says:

    Surge in the Alt-right and the changing face of politics as the right uses the tactics of the left to attack the left — or “Two can play this game bud!”

  141. Jeff says:

    @Will Janoschka: Turing test := FAIL.

    Try replying to what I wrote, aber ich glaube dass sie haben gar keine Ahnung…

    DU has been spread, either intentionally or not, throughout Afghanistan and the areas surrounding
    Iraq for a couple of decades now. I have some former renters suffering from the after-effects of this, and I fear that the spew (look it up, if you don’t understand what that word means) is somewhat less than harmless.

    You have called me and a few others on this site “Idiot”, yet you have shown yourself to be somewhat less than polite. What is your problem? 25 words or less. Be specific, and give examples…

  142. Will Janoschka says:

    Jeff says: 12 October 2016 at 3:44 am

    @Will Janoschka: Turing test := FAIL.

    Try replying to what I wrote, aber ich glaube dass sie haben gar keine Ahnung…

    “DU has been spread, either intentionally or not, throughout Afghanistan and the areas surrounding Iraq for a couple of decades now. I have some former renters suffering from the after-effects of this, and I fear that the spew (look it up, if you don’t understand what that word means) is somewhat less than harmless.”
    Your renters are in Afghanistan or Iraq , Please tell me more {insult deleted}!

  143. Gail Combs says:


    Pepe and the ‘Alt-right” was a joke played on a reporter by a couple of young guys. (I have the links on the other computer.) Of course at this point it could have taken on a life of its own. I would not be surprised. The irresistible urge to kick a smug, self-righteous social justice warrior in the rear must be breaking out on campuses all over and Pepe is just the one to do it. After all he has those nice long powerful legs.


    From reddit with the last comment:
    “On second thought, the white-guilt card is not merely worn out; it has been removed from the deck.”

    And that is what has Hillary and the DNC stumped.

  144. Gail Combs says:

    Seems, I an not the only one seeing a nuclear war possibility. Tony Heller just posted this email showing Top Hillary/Obama Advisor Says Obama’s Iran Deal Will Lead To Nuclear War

  145. Gail Combs says:

    Here is a guy, asking the Clinton campaign for dirt on Trump…

    From:brentbb AT webtv(.)net
    To: john podesta AT gmail
    Date: 2015-08-29 13:06
    Subject: Question

    If the campaign has a full list of Trump’s verbally abusive insults of women with specific examples of specific insults against specific women, if they email details to me I would a nuclear column including a call on leading GOP women to aggressively disown him and a call on major media to aggressively report the facts ‎ in defense of women, and stop giving Trump immunity from acceptable standards of journalism coverage and presidential politics.

    Trump is an abusive sexist Joe McCarthy ready for an Edward R. Murrow and I am ready to go further than any mainstream columnist but would need to be rock solid with facts.

    I would independently verify the details through my own fact checking from public sources and not mention the campaign.‎

    This is from brentbbi at Huff & Puff


  146. philjourdan says:

    @will – obviously this article is ABOUT politics and Hillary. You might try reading it.

  147. Jeff says:

    @Will Janoschka: Yes, they were Desert Storm. Senior Military. And the house I rented to them (here in GERMANY) stayed empty quite a lot when they were deployed, then they returned to the USA when done. In this case you don’t know just how much you don’t know.

    Better get some help about those Ad Homs. You have an anger issue.

  148. Larry Ledwick says:

    A little debunking by bellingcat of the meme that was going around that Trump was quoting Sputnik news (ie his Russian information source) on the Benghazi controversy.


  149. Larry Ledwick says:

    Appears the Trump supporters are melting the phone lines at GOP
    From twitter:
    Mike Cernovich Verified account

    LIVE on #Periscope: Dear @Reince, the @GOP phone lines aren’t working. Too many calls? 202-863-8500

  150. Larry Ledwick says:

    Meanwhile we have this little item about double standards, where Clinton staffers talk about not getting fired for grabbing a woman’s ass and destroying voter registration forms.


  151. Jon K says:

    NBC caught doctoring video for Hillary to cover up health concerns.

  152. Larry Ledwick says:

    And we have Obama himself — be careful of what cat fights you start, they could come back to bite you.


  153. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter

    Bill Mitchell ‏@mitchellvii 5 hours ago
    Just spoke with my Inside Contact in OH. Trump is GAINING support, NOT LOSING! Folks, this person KNOWS. The media is LYING to you.

    Bill Mitchell ‏@mitchellvii 5 hours ago
    FL Early Ballot Requests: R+60,000. Early Ballot Returns: R+3000 so far.


  154. Larry Ledwick says:

    Well this is going to get interesting!
    From twitter:
    Mike Cernovich ‏@Cernovich 19m19 minutes ago

    Holy [Crap!] Podesta’s passwords were cracked, they got into his iPhone and Mac. Another huge leak coming? Stay tuned! #PodestaEmails

  155. H.R. says:

    @Larry, I suppose the password was KissHRCSring01? Topdawgdemocrat maybe? How about atsedop?

    Hillary Clinton’s was easy; chelsea.

    Bill Clinton’s was even easier; Cigar.

  156. philjourdan says:

    @Larry – I just saw the same videos (3 in all, grab ass, tear up registrations, and hard on) on another site. I would say that Trump is now getting serious. The MSM will not carry any of them, but Trump can run them himself.

    Anyone still wondering why he has not been running ads? He was waiting for Hillary to make them for him!

  157. Larry Ledwick says:

    The problem is the mainstream media still think they are important – they are not!
    Alternate media is almost totally usurped them just like it did with the major newspapers. It just took a bit longer to kill the beast in the broadcast media. Trump is running lots of ads, thousands of them produced by users independently at no cost to him, influencing their friends, doing the work of research teams and guerilla media on their own dime and time.

  158. philjourdan says:

    @Larry – Re: the Polls. The polls are not accurate right now because they do not have to be. They are agenda driven. They want to disillusion the Trump supporters and cause them to not show up at the polls. As we get closer to the election, some will get more accurate as they have reputations to uphold. But others, like the NBC/WSJ will continue to try psychological warfare and hope they create the outcome instead of predicting it.

  159. Larry Ledwick says:

    Yep Phil consumer pols are propaganda to drive the agenda not objective information.

    If this is true, could be a real problem for HRC
    From twitter:
    Mike Cernovich Verified account

    I can confirm rotten Hillary’s 33,000 emails have been obtained. Word is it will be a “November surprise.” Wow, something new every day!

  160. Larry Ledwick says:

    And just for a bit of humor as we get flooded with all sorts of odd ball voting maps.

  161. Gail Combs says:

    Larry Ledwick says: “….Trump is running lots of ads, thousands of them produced by users independently at no cost to him….”

    All Trump did is jump in front of the angry mob. If the media had not been in the tank for the globalists and if the internet had been as pervasive, it could have been Ross Perot.

    I have never been interested in politics and I have never donated before but I am this time. And I am not the only one.

    If we believe in the insurrection then it would be shameful to expect Trump, despite his wealth, to shoulder the fight by himself. That just ain’t right. I don’t normally donate to campaigns but I’m sure as hell going to donate money to Trump. ~ Garrison Hall June 21, 2016

    Speaking of which, Tony Heller is headed to Washington D.C. this weekend, and will be presenting some material to Trump’s EPA transition head. If you have a few bucks you can spare, toss them at Tony. After his presentation to the Doctors For Disaster Preparedness in Omaha, Nebraska, he got fired for being a climate denier.

  162. Larry Ledwick says:

    Wiki leaks smoking gun for rigging elections in Colorado and other states by Obama?

  163. Larry Ledwick says:

    If true this could be a show stopper for HRC taking a 20 sabbatical from campaigning just before election day? Now just how is that supposed to work? Perhaps push out pre-canned videos or interviews which are already in the can?


  164. Larry Ledwick says:

    Email dump exposes Tim Steyres coordination with John Podesta to use climate as a club to beat the Republicans over the head and to advance other agendas.


  165. E.M.Smith says:

    @Will J.:

    Well I’m peddling as fast as I can! ;-)

    Just now realizing I have 1/2 hour just to catch up on comments here…

    @Gail: DU is not a dirty bomb. I had a Uranium enamel on my front tooth gor 40 years.. and the depleted stuff has had most of the radioactive stuff removed, unlike my tooth…

    It may be nasty, but that is chemical not radiation…

    BTW IMHO the estimated risks of EMP are highly overrated. People are mighty creative and with comms cut, free of Federal “help”…


    For optimal EMP a bomb must be set off in the ionosphere. The Tsar Bomb was way too low. From the ionosphere, line of sight for one covers most of the lower 48, two gives complete coverage (Hawaii and Alaska extra ;-)

    That said, yeah, lots of self shielding and short antenna length issues ignored… at least 2 and likely all 4 of my cars will be running post EMP along with my generator and invertors. TV set not so much…

  166. E.M.Smith says:

    @Will J.:

    Please refrain from personal insults. It is against site policy (i.e I don’t like it). ( Calling ‘idiot’ …)

    Also note that this isn’t just a tech oriented blog. I have a Politics category for a reason and this is a political thread.

    While I am technical and thus this site started as a technical look at Global Warming, at the point where it became clear tech didn’t matter and Global Warming wss a political fabrication, that topic by neccesity became a politicsl one…

    Also see my reply here:https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2016/10/08/hillary-wikileaks-trump-issues-collection/#comment-73112

  167. E.M.Smith says:


    I suspect it was BOHICA…


    Why run ads when he can do tweets and viral vidoes for free while reaching more people? It’s the new media that matters…

    Oh, I see Larry pointed out the same thing… and Gail too…

  168. Larry Ledwick says:

    Newest sexual abuse claims against Trump already imploding. It also appears that more is to come.
    From twitter:

    .Armrests do not go up in First Class, never did, and armrests didn’t exist until 1980s.

  169. Gail Combs says:

    Here is the best summary I have found:


    …..Trump has vociferously denied the accusations, dismissing them as fabrications and slamming the lawsuit as a sham designed to smear him as he runs for highest office. Epstein, an associate of the UK’s Prince Andrew who was convicted of underage sex crimes in Florida in 2008, has also denied the allegations.….

    A Guardian investigation this summer found that the lawsuit appeared to have been coordinated by a former producer on the Jerry Springer TV show who has been associated in the past with a range of disputed claims involving celebrities including OJ Simpson and Kurt Cobain. A publicist acting for “Jane Doe” also attempted to sell a video in which the woman describes her allegations against Trump to media outlets at a $1m price tag…..

    The court order gives no details of the legal complaint raised by “Jane Doe”.

    In other words it is a political move by a completely corrupt legal system.

    As I said above, The Judge was appointed by Obama. If Hillary is brought up on charges by a Trump Admin, Obama’s rear is also implicated because HE was emailing to Hillary’s unsecure server.

    Oh and the latest is Glenn Beck: Electing Hillary Clinton ‘Is a Moral, Ethical Choice’

  170. philjourdan says:

    @Larry – And remember – every bear is really a Russian operative.

  171. E.M.Smith says:


    Except the Panda Bears that are Chineese agents and the Koala Bears that have been recruited by MI6 for intel gathering, I mean, look at those ears!


    Glen Beck is still arround? He thinks Hillary is a moral choice? I guess I’ve not kept up with his divergences as he explored the edges of sanity…


    I take it someone claimed something about armrests?

  172. Larry Ledwick says:

    I take it someone claimed something about armrests?

    My understanding is that one of the women who were making dubious claims of harassment by Trump was talking about him sitting next to her in first class and he was like an octopus (hands everywhere) and during the story said something about him raising the arm rest. I frankly have not even bothered to read the full complaints because they imploded almost immediately, like – – how often does Donald Trump fly first class? Me thinks he uses his own private plane and has for a very long time.

    Oh crap I forgot completely about under cover bears controlled by the FSB we are so totally screwed!

  173. E.M.Smith says:


    Well, there went Gail’s weekend…

  174. Will Janoschka says:

    Gail Combs says: 11 October 2016 at 7:26 pm

    “Will Janoschka, We didn’t say that Hillary Clinton, George Soros, David Rockefeller and their buddies didn’t have several screws loose.”


    “The United States and its allies are fully aware that this weaponry violates the Geneva and Hague Conventions and the 1925 Geneva Poison Gas Protocol.6 It meets the definition of WMD in the U.S. Code7 in two out of three categories. And its use violates U.S. military law.8 since the U.S. is a signatory to The Hague and Geneva Conventions”

    Gail, you have absolutely no evidence that the DU munitions, used by the US have any harmful nuclear radiative emissions whatsoever!. What you spout id BS. You absorb mere harmful nuclear radiation from one day in the sun than you might by sleeping with one of these for a lifetime. They are not WMD as per Code 7 or US military law.

  175. Jeff says:

    All those agents are almost more than we can bear :) Not to mention Chicago vs. Green Bay…

    That bear map is a nice departure from all the bright red “climate” maps floating about, though
    I hope the election map is all (or close to all) red.

  176. Jeff says:

    Here’s a couple of links, with sublinks. Will, I don’t know what dog you have in this fight, especially since you haven’t provided any links supporting your point of view, but there are folks suffering from this. As are animals and the environment there in general, which wasn’t that good in the first place (OK, since 40-50 years ago).


    It took quite a while for the truth about agent orange to see the light of day. The scope of this would be far, far greater.

    I would appreciate your refraining from calling those who disagree with you “idiiot”, in particular with regard to the fact that you have posted no references. It is most unbecoming of an expert.

  177. Larry Ledwick says:

    The real issue with Depleted Uranium penetrator rounds is not the direct radiation from the rounds, it is the secondary effects of soldiers on the battle field inhaling smoke from burning tanks and armor vehicles struck by those rounds. On impact the DU flashes and burns contaminating surfaces with Uranium Oxide dust, The smoke and flames create an aerosol of the uranium oxide mixed with the already toxic smoke from burning rubber, plastics and fuels. No one cares that that happens to the enemy soldiers you are trying to destroy, but friendly troops quickly move in to mop up such operations and are exposed to that smoke and possible direct contamination to surfaces coated with the residue from that smoke. They then unintentionally contaminate themselves by brushing against surfaces and accidentally transferring that contamination to their mouths by eating or drinking (mouth nozzles for camel back water carriers used in Iraq). Keep in mind that in Iraq there were unintended exposure to old chemical weapons residue from destroyed munitions dumps so the effects may also be due to those secondary exposures not the DU weapons residue.

    There is a legitimate secondary contamination control issue that the troops need to be aware of, and was not recognized until recently. Like uranium miners who smoke or eat while contaminated with uranium ore dust, it is mostly a training issue, and the tactical commanders need to be aware of it and not unnecessarily expose troops to burning enemy equipment which was taken out by use of DU weapons systems.

    Over time the UOx contamination gets mixed into the soils and is no more dangerous than rock dust form natural sources like granite here in the Rocky Mountain states.

  178. Will Janoschka says:

    E.M.Smith says: 13 October 2016 at 2:54 am

    @Will J.:”
    Please refrain from personal insults. It is against site policy (i.e I don’t like it). ( Calling ‘idiot’ …)”

    OK! sorry! Is calling “abject stupidity” the main course material for meteorology still OK?

    “Also note that this isn’t just a tech oriented blog. I have a Politics category for a reason and this is a political thread.”
    I will indeed avoid using your name in vain!! Again sorry!

  179. Larry Ledwick says:

    Also I just noted that the bear map has been manipulated somehow they lost all the bears in Wyoming which Yellow Stone surely has lots of — are these under cover bears the media does not want us to know about ?? (he says with tongue firmly in cheek – /sarc alert for those with no sense of humor)

  180. Will Janoschka says:

    Jeff says: 13 October 2016 at 5:28 pm

    “I would appreciate your refraining from calling those who disagree with you “idiot”, in particular with regard to the fact that you have posted no references. It is most unbecoming of an expert.”

    I have never claimed to be expert on anything! Here on chiefio, I will refrain from such word usage as per e. m.: (i.e I don’t like it). However I maintain the right to remain an “equal opportunity bigot”! All who disagree with me remain by my definition “idiots”, independent of race, religion, color, creed, national origin, or sexual preference. Did I miss anyone? Have a nice day!

  181. Will Janoschka says:

    Larry Ledwick says: 13 October 2016 at 5:51 pm

    “Also I just noted that the bear map has been manipulated somehow they lost all the bears in Wyoming which Yellow Stone surely has lots of — are these under cover bears the media does not want us to know about ?”

    Wyoming has but 3 electoral college bears! Even if all mistakenly think Hittlerty is more tender eating than the Donald, does it make any difference?

  182. philjourdan says:

    @Gail – thanks for the heads up. I hate his new site because I never know when a new article is posted, but I do like reading his articles, so I chipped in a bit for his trips.

  183. Larry Ledwick says:

    Jack Abramoff goes off on Hillary — he went to jail for 4 years for actions similar to what she has done.


  184. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:
    Mike Cernovich ‏@Cernovich 38 minutes ago

    Liberal billionaires fund hoax media. Conservative billionaires don’t fund honest media to counter. They hire cucks. Now you see end result.

    I think that pretty well summarizes the issue there is no economic motivation for honest media.
    All though that might be finally changing as people cut the cord and stop watching the corrupt media.

  185. E.M.Smith says:

    @Will J.:

    It’s really very very simple (though for some reason, some folks just don’t get it…)

    You can THINK any insult you like about anyone at all.

    SAYING that insult “to the person” here is forbidden.

    Saying ” I think the idea that Hillary slept with Uma is a stupid one” is OK as it is directed to the IDEA not the PERSON.

    Saying ” You are stupid because you believe Hillary slept with Uma” is NOT OK as it is directed to the PERSON.

    Got it?

  186. Larry Ledwick says:

    Crowd sourcing strikes again — From twitter:
    Mike Cernovich Retweeted
    WeSearchr ‏@wesearchr 2h2 hours ago

    BUSTED: Drunken Child Abuser & Hoaxer #MindyMcGillivray Falsely Claims Trump “Nudged” Her At Never-Happened Concert


  187. philjourdan says:

    @E.M. Et al. – why run ads? Simple, they are effective. But not 3 months out. TV bypasses the MSM and goes directly to the consumer where they live – shows, not news. Trump knows it. Watch him to blanket the airwaves in all 50 the last 2 weeks. And not with “I am running for president”, but with wikileaks of who Hillary is. Trump is not a republican we have been told constantly. And in this area, I am glad he is not.

  188. Larry Ledwick says:

    Funny post — you need to read the whole thing (don’t skim alert)


  189. Will Janoschka says:

    catweazle666 says: 11 October 2016 at 11:12 pm

    (“Sorry this is total BS”) “So is most of the the scary shite about EMP.”

    “The Soviets exploded the Tsar Bomba 50 megaton test on October 30, 1961 at a height of around four kilometres and caused next to zero disruption of electronic devices.”

    This is correct, however that little puppy”s yield was only half of design, yet damn near broke this Earth into pieces! The clocks changed time by more than a second. Scared the shit out of anyone with some technical understanding! “DON’T DO DAT”

  190. Will Janoschka says:

    E.M.Smith says: 13 October 2016 at 7:38 pm

    @Will J.:”It’s really very very simple (though for some reason, some folks just don’t get it…)
    You can THINK any insult you like about anyone at all.
    SAYING that insult “to the person” here is forbidden.”
    OK! Yes sir, Yes sir! Independent of the number of bags you have FULL!

    “Saying ” I think the idea that Hillary slept with Uma is a stupid one” is OK as it is directed to the IDEA not the PERSON”

    Ok I understand!.

    “Saying ” You are stupid because you believe Hillary slept with Uma” is NOT OK as it is directed to the PERSON.Got it?”

    NO! Ideas often appear stupid, as not well thought out! The individual BELIEVING such is what results as individual ==> STUPID! Can you provide your learned opposing opinion? Are folk not responsible for own belief! I still will attempt to only post here as you wish!

  191. philjourdan says:

    And please do not forget the hair Bear Bunch! Hair, Bubi and Square!

  192. @Will haven’t found anything on Tsar Bomba causing a 1-second slowdown of the earth. Closest I found was http://www.tsunami2004.net/tsunami-2004-facts – which is purported to be a 250-megaton equivalent earthquake that displaced the earth by an “inch or more”…

    Perhaps there was something else involved in the second slowdown? Even if the earth “paused”, that wouldn’t affect clocks…just astronomers ;)

  193. Will Janoschka says:

    Regis Llanfar says: 13 October 2016 at 9:08 pm

    “@Will haven’t found anything on Tsar Bomba causing a 1-second slowdown of the earth. Closest I found was http://www.tsunami2004.net/tsunami-2004-facts – which is purported to be a 250-megaton equivalent earthquake that displaced the earth by an “inch or more”…”
    You likely will find nothing but lotsa folk scraping crap out of their skivvies!
    “Perhaps there was something else involved in the second slowdown? Even if the earth “paused”, that wouldn’t affect clocks…just astronomers ;) ”
    Much still to be considered between Lorentz scalar invariance and angular vectors used by astronomers! WHAT IS TIME?

  194. Jeff says:

    Will, this is E.M.’s blog.

    In spite of your hubris, if you don’t like it, too bad. He made very clear what his guidelines are.
    What is so hard about that?

    Looks at some of the writings and articles of Lord Christopher Monckton, especially with regard to argumentation. They are most instructive.

  195. Gail Combs says:


    None of us knows everything.

    If someone goofs like I did by quoting a misinfo piece, you correct it with evidence and in most cases, sometimes after a bit of argument, we all arrive closer to the truth or sometimes we agree to disagree.

    E.M. has a no ad Hom rule for that reason. Attack the facts and not the person

    Do not forget that most of the ‘official’ news stories are Psy-ops and not the truth. For that reason posting an misinfo piece by mistake, allows us to diffuse the psy-ops bomb embedded in the article. (And that article had a doozy.)

    Please note as soon as I was corrected WITH factual evidence I quickly adjusted my thinking and appologised for my ignorance.

    To get to the point
    Ignorance =/= Stupidity
    Ignorance can be cured by exposure to facts while stupidity goes to the bone.

  196. Larry Ledwick says:

    Tzar Bomba did not make any measurable change in length of day. That is closely monitored to keep atomic clocks in sync and is mostly due to angular momentum changes of the earth and its atmosphere when the atmosphere expands or contracts due to solar activity, or major earthquakes significantly shift mass (and angular momentum of the earth). If there had been a significant change they would have made time adjustments to UTC get timing back in sync with the atomic clocks.

    From the US Naval Observatory which monitors such things we find:

    Tzar bomba set off on 30 October 1961

    Length of Day change from 1962.000 to 1961.5000 was 1.15 ms which is well within normal yearly variations.
      Year    TDT-UT1    error     LOD      error
                 (s)      (s)      (ms)     (ms)
    1960.000     33.150    0.003     1.26     0.10
    1960.500     33.397    0.003     1.06     0.11
    1961.000     33.584    0.003     1.01     0.19
    1961.500     33.804    0.003     1.29     0.10
    1962.000     33.992    0.001     1.15     0.07
    1962.500     34.240    0.001     1.23     0.03
    1963.000     34.466    0.001     1.05     0.03
    1963.500     34.731    0.001     1.41     0.05
    1964.000     35.030    0.001     1.92     0.02

    The first official leap second adjustment was in 1972 but the irregular rotation of earth was well known in 1961 and they slightly slewed the atomic clocks to keep official time (UTC reference atomic clocks) matched with the natural time set by the rotation of the earth and our length of day.

  197. Jeff says:

    FWIW, more Arkancide chatter:

    and the “official” story:

    I wonder if Dr. Ben Carson has any opinion about Hillary’s health. Then again,
    he’s too much of a professional and a gentleman to proffer an opinion on the issue.

  198. Gail Combs says:

    Things are getting to the slapstick comedy stage:
    Politico‎: “Democratic operative David Brock and civil rights lawyer Gloria Allred both say they are …”

    WIKI:“Gloria Rachel Allred is an American civil rights lawyer who is noted for taking high-profile cases; she has been particularly involved with cases involving the protection of women’s rights.”

    It looks like she is chasing a phantom:
    DANG! Can’t find the link. Oh Well

    Anon. (or maybe veritis) baited Hillary operatives with the story of juicy Apprentice out takes and got videos of threats and bribes by said operatives in their attempts to get control of the phantom out takes.

    Best comment I have read today:
    Nick V34 “Choose anyone but Hillary………………………Bill always did.”

    That would make a great bumper sticker!

  199. H.R. says:


    Hmmm… I might have time to get a T-shirt made with that line by Nick V34. Excellent!

  200. Gail Combs says:

    OOPs, sorry forgot the rest of the quote:

    …On Friday, The Washington Post published a 2005 video in which Trump bragged to television personality Billy Bush about his ability to get away with sexually assaulting women. [False Statement] In response to hints that tapes of Trump speaking into a hot mic during the filming of his reality show, “The Apprentice,” contained more revelations, both Brock and Allred have pushed for further disclosures. Last weekend, Brock told POLITICO he would pay for the legal defense of anyone who leaked “Apprentice” tapes, and Allred called for them to be released….

    Also there are alleged threats

    …. offers come in response to an anonymous Trump campaign official Wednesday night threatening to sue women who accuse Trump of sexual assault. “NYT editors, reporters, politically motivated accusers better lawyer up,” a “high-ranking” campaign official told CNN in response to an avalanche of revelations and allegations about Trump’s behavior toward women….

    Sorry Brock that is Hillary and Bill’s MO, Trump is not sneaky. He is an in your face BULL.

    In the face of such accusations Trump certainly has the right to counter sue. Especially since a false accusation could cost him not only the presidency but also millions in lost business. The Democrats are used to Republicans cowering and running away when they start the mudslinging. They are not used to an Alpha Male who WILL fight back and has the billions to do so.

  201. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:
    Mike Cernovich Retweeted
    Baked Alaska™ ‏@bakedalaska 6 minutes ago

    Black Support for Trump DOUBLED in last 10 days! (@Rasmussen_Poll)

    10/3- 9%
    10/6- 12%
    10/7- 13%
    10/10- 14%
    10/11- 19%
    10/12- 19%
    10/13- 24%

    – – – – – – –
    Me thinks the boys in the hood don’t give a crap about alleged sex scandals.

  202. Will Janoschka says:

    Larry Ledwick says: 13 October 2016 at 11:08 pm

    “Tzar Bomba did not make any measurable change in length of day. That is closely monitored to keep atomic clocks in sync and is mostly due to angular momentum changes of the earth and its atmosphere when the atmosphere expands or contracts due to solar activity, or major earthquakes significantly shift mass (and angular momentum of the earth). If there had been a significant change they would have made time adjustments to UTC get timing back in sync with the atomic clocks.”https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second”

    Again Larry Ledwick,
    Please define ‘WHAT IS TIME?” Is that some accumulation of power an integral expressed as ‘energy’ Or is ‘time’ the expression of action within some interval also expressed as ‘energy’?
    Earthlings appear so STUPID! Even kittycats get out of the way of something so huge and unexplainable!

  203. Regis Llanfar says:

    You wouldn’t happen to know Oliver? Haven’t read from him in a week…

  204. Will Janoschka says:

    Regis Llanfar says: 14 October 2016 at 1:05 am

    “You wouldn’t happen to know Oliver? Haven’t read from him in a week…”
    Do you refer to Oliver K. Manuel? Much to consider there! Not much willing to accept/believe there yet!

  205. Larry Ledwick says:

    According to the new Fox poll, HRC leads Trump by 7% — only problem is the poll is skewed it is a +9 for democrats, so she is probably really losing by 2%.

    Full poll numbers skew shows up in percentages of Democrats vs Republicans page 22.
    In the real world the numbers are almost identical in the high mid 20% range and independents accounting for most of the rest also in the high mid 20% range. with a small edge to democrats.



  206. Larry Ledwick says:

    Apparently another Trump accuser outed as not telling the original story (ie lying).

  207. Larry Ledwick says:

    Now this could get interesting even if this is not true it will spawn a whole lot of teeth gnashing about who is doing what to whom.


    Side note Podesta is a long time associate of HRC and has known connections to Russia. If wiki is as some alledge a KGB front something that points back to the KGB (or at least appears to) would never have seen the light of day. If Wiki is actually independent of KGB influence this could have all sorts of blow back. This election cycle is starting to resemble a very ugly Fabergé egg.

  208. H.R. says:

    Thanks for the poll link, Larry. I looked but probably missed how they determined a respondent was a ‘likely voter.’

    I suspect that traditional polling methods might not catch the people who normally don’t vote but will vote for Trump this election (e.g. galopingcamel’s comment). Trump has framed his campaign as a ‘movement’ and it may well be. In which case, the polls favoring Hillary are probably way off to the high side. There is no evidence of an enthused, energized mass of Hillary supporters from the lack of yard signs, bumper stickers, and rally attendance although I admit all signs/stickers reports are anecdotal.

  209. Larry Ledwick says:

    That is one of the weaknesses of this polling cycle, is there are a lot of people who have not voted recently so are not on the call lists, but will show up for Trump. A hint of how strong that is can be inferred from his very strong numbers in the primary, plus known democratic cross over and the fact we know phone poll agents are hanging up on folks who say the support trump.

    This election cycle is probably not suitable for the old polling models and might give some very out of ordinary results.

    Trumps rally crowds compared to HRC imply there a lot of those “Ghost voters” who will come out for him that did not show up for Romney etc.

    I take Hillary’s aggressiveness against Trump as an indicator that her internal polls are not looking good so she is going all out to destroy him (his threat to jail her obviously did not help that dynamic any).

  210. Larry Ledwick says:
  211. Gail Combs says:

    From:brentbbiATwebtv.net [Huffington Post reporter]
    To: john.podestaATgmail.com
    Date: 2016-02-13 22:00
    Subject: Scalia Supreme Court seat

    I suggest Senator Jack Reed. Nearly perfect liberal, pro-choice,</b. Army Ranger, Harvard Law, highly respected Senator with friends such as McCain, quickly and easily confirmable, short circuits the holy war Republicans will try to wage.


  212. Larry Ledwick says:

    One of the Trump accusers appears to be bogus.
    From twitter:


  213. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:

    Bill Mitchell ‏@mitchellvii 39m39 minutes ago

    Turns out that Leeds “Groping on a Plane” woman has had legal real estate conflicts with Trump in the past.

  214. Larry Ledwick says:

    Wall Street Journal article on Clinton and how the media is covering Trump 24×7 but not mentioning that Clinton has been outed for almost every charge made against her.


  215. Gail Combs says:

    Gleaned from Reddit with additions by me — collusion between Hillary Campaign and the US press.

    EMAILID 6900 Another gem from journalist Brent Budowsky. A desperate plea to Podesta about Clinton’s money troubles:
    “If there is one thing that could well bring down a Hillary Clinton candidacy it is this cycle of money issues about which I am now feeling red alerts, loud bells, warning signals, and red flags and I am now seriously pissed off that there is a real chance that her candidacy and the Democratic Party could be destroyed by these self-created dangers that continue to proliferate the closer she gets to presumably announcing her candidacy. If she is not hearing this from others, please feel free to forward this to her, I will play the bad guy here because I do not want her money and because she needs to hear this from her friends and she will sure as hell be attacked for this by her enemies, and it will be megaphoned throughout the media, and foreign donations and paid speeches and hustling gold mining deals by her brother are entirely legitimate issues that are self-created, and must self-corrected before it is too late….and I do not believe the Clintons fully understand the magnitude and immediacy of the danger in the current political and media climate” https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6900

    To: john.podesta@gmail.com, roy.spence@gsdm.com
    Date: 2016-01-21 20:36
    Subject: Hillary almost 100% negative
    Almost every message being projected outward from her campaign is negative, and a candidate with high distrust ratings should not be doing this, and my phone has been ringing and my email box has been full with Democrats who like me who support her but who, like me, are appalled and losing confidence.
    I have never seen anything like this.

    To: john.podesta@gmail.com
    Date: 2016-01-10 13:17
    Subject: Confidential
    I had a multi-email exchange with someone in the media this morning—a name you would know—who is telling me that there are people close to the Clintons who says WJC’s sex life could be damaging to her.
    Read the rest, it’s fairly long: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2301

    Cat fight!!

    EMAILID 5518 Jake Tapper (now at CNN) is mad about a fellow liberal smearing him with some lies. He gets pretty mad :”Off the record, Faiz, you should be ashamed for printing something so untrue. And John – is this was thinkprogress is? Print anything, damn the facts?” https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5518
    Interesting that these ‘journalists’ need John Podesta to play referee.
    Faiz Shakir, was vice-president of the Center for American Progress (CAP) During his college years, Faiz Shakir was a member of the Harvard Islamic Society. Nancy Pelosi hired Think Progress’ Faiz Shakir. He left Think Progress to become Pelosi’s director of new media and senior adviser. and to serve as head of her online operations.

    Jeffrey Schneider: “ABC News President James Goldston sent the following note to the news division this morning announcing Jeffrey Schneider will launch his own communications and media relations firm, Schneider Global Strategy, and Julie Townsend will lead communications at ABC News…. Jeffrey Schneider, a key player in our news division over the past 14 years, will be founding his own firm, Schneider Global Strategy, specializing in media relations and crisis management.”

    Emily Lenzner: “Emily oversees communications for all divisions of the company, including The Atlantic, National Journal Group, Quartz, Government Executive Media Group, Defense One, and Atlantic Media Strategies. Prior to joining Atlantic Media in 2013, Emily was a managing director for public affairs and political consulting firm SKDKnickerbocker, where she strategized and managed a variety of national media campaigns for various corporations and non-profit organizations. She spent six years as the executive director of communications for ABC News in Washington, managing PR for programs This Week with George Stephanopoulos and Nightline and the network’s political coverage.” [she] Served as number two communications executive and head of media relations for public radio network. During tenure, overhauled and implemented new communications practices for NPR programs and corporate initiatives.”

    NYT and Associated Press collusion with Clinton Campaign

    From: ntandenATgmail.com [Neera Tanden President and CEO of the Center for American Progress and the Center for American Progress Action Fund — OOPS colluding with a Super PAC???]
    To: john podestaATgmail.com, j palmieriAThillaryclinton.com
    Date: 2015-07-24 13:49
    Subject: NYT [New York Times]

    Tide does seem to be shifting a bit on this, great work by the press shop. Cummings is helpful as is AP. I do think that if Hillary doesn’t speak to this today, people will assume she’s guilty though. With normal people, if you are accused of being a criminal, they expect you to deny it pronto.

    From: ntandenATgmail.com
    To: john podestaATgmail.com
    Date: 2015-08-22 11:12
    Subject: Emails – my thoughts
    I know this email thing isn’t on the level. I’m fully aware of that. But her inability to just do a national interview and communicate genuine feelings of remorse and regret is now, I fear, becoming a character problem (more so than honesty). People hate her arrogant, like her down. It’s a sexist context, but I think it’s the truth. I see no downside in her actually just saying, look, I’m sorry. I think it will take so much air out of this. She always sees herself bending to “their” will when she hands over information, etc. But the way she has to bend here is in the remorse. Not the “if I had to do it all over again, I wouldn’t do it.” A real feeling of – this decision I made created a mess and I’m sorry I did that. No one thinks she doesn’t have the judgment to be president – she’s not reaffirming a negative characteristic in saying sorry. She needs to do that – I see no way of moving on until October otherwise. Anyway, that’s my advice.

    At this point I do not think there is any doubt that the American Public is under a Psy-op Attack by our supposed ‘independent’ press.

  216. philjourdan says:

    @Gail – My own definition – Ignorance is the lack of knowledge. Stupidity is the rejection of knowledge.

  217. Glenn999 says:

    Attended a great rally here in Ocala on Wednesday! Very impressed with his passion and speaking ability. On Fire!!
    Thought he knocked it out of the park at the second debate. Let’s hope the American public can read and understand the import of wikileaks bombshell.

  218. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting analysis I found linked to on twitter:

  219. Larry Ledwick says:

    Pro trump testimonial from former Miss Wisconsin commenting on the man she knows from her personal experience with him.

  220. Larry Ledwick says:

    Hillary admits it is impossible to vet the Syrian refugee flow.


  221. Gail Combs says:

    Larry says “That is one of the weaknesses of this polling cycle, is there are a lot of people who have not voted recently so are not on the call lists, but will show up for Trump.”

    Sundance asked someone to check his numbers on the ‘Monster Vote’ voters that are interested enough that they are going to vote for the first time in years.

    Dang, I can not find the URL, oh well I will look later. Here is some other info instead.

    The Voting Bloc EVERY Pundit Never Discusses – “The Monster Vote”….

    The “Monster Vote” is the voting bloc of those who had turned away from politics; those how gave up, and/or just never voted in the first place. This video was/is prescient in retrospect when you consider the record-breaking volume of primary voters who have turned out to support Donald Trump….

    Comparisons to turnout models in 2012, 2008 etc. have absolutely no value when you consider the scope of the monster vote. The voices discussing election turnout are only comparing the 60 million for Dems, or the 60 million for Republicans.

    No-one is discussing the 100 million, the silent majority, the non-voting bloc, the largest single voting bloc in the United States. However, there are signs the monster vote is active and engaged.

    Visible signs the professional political class would rather you not contemplate.

    Obvious signs.

    Very Visible Signs.

    Records are being broken, but no-one is discussing why. Donald Trump is not just getting republicans, independent and some democrat voters – He’s turning out the monster vote. Venues with 10,000…. 15,000… 20,000,… 30,000,… even 40,000 are being filled in a PRIMARY contest.

    A friggin’ “primary” contest !!

    Media Report: 25% of Current Florida Primary Ballots Never Voted Before, EVER…

    Trump Shatters All Prior GOP Fundraising Records – 2.1 Million Small Donations in 90 Days…

  222. J Martin says:

    In the UK the polls have been getting it wrong for the last few years. Brexit included. I wonder if when a poll declared a healthy lead for one side if there is an effect of leading some of those voters to relax and think they don’t need to go out and vote. So a poll which puts Hillary ahead might cause a significant number of her supporters to think they don’t need to vote but it won’t disillusion Trump’s supporters because they are angry and determined to fight for change. Add in a bunch of people who rarely or haven’t voted before and Trump could win.

  223. Larry Ledwick says:

    Yes notice that the lead is always nearly a tie or 1-2%, to avoid that “Let’s not bother to vote” problem.
    It is teasing the folks who want to be on the winning side to shift in that direction — it is sort of like push polling trying to drive the public towards the result they want.

  224. M Simon says:

    Larry Ledwick says:
    13 October 2016 at 5:46 pm

    That is the first good look at the dangers Of DU munitions I have seen around. I have an addition:

    It might be worth noting that Uranium miners got years of exposure. A few days on a battle field might not be significant. And then there is all the other goo in the air.

  225. @Larry Ledwick:
    “That is one of the weaknesses of this polling cycle, is there are a lot of people who have not voted recently so are not on the call lists, but will show up for Trump.”

    I live in Brevard county (Florida) and picked up my mail in ballot today. I asked the election staff whether they had a voter turnout estimate. The answer blew my mind!

    Brevard usually has a high voter turnout but this year more ballots have already been cast than the total for 2014. The current forecast is a 93% turnout compared with 59% in 2014. More people turn out for presidential elections so in 2012 the turnout was 82% or 11% lower than the 2016 forecast.

    I think this supports the idea that something is different about this election. Call it the Trump effect……..love him or hate him nobody can accuse him of being boring.

    We are being told that the turnout will be low as both candidates have high “Negatives”. Instead we may see the highest turnout (percentagewise) in decades. Dare I hope the surge voters have already voted for Trump?

    May I suggest that the learned sages who comment here check how the early voting is going in their county? Larry may be onto something important……….how do you spell tsunami?

  226. Jeff says:

    I just hope and pray that that high percentage has nothing to do with the Democrats “vote early, vote often” adage… And I hope and pray indeed that it is indicative of a Trump tsunami…

  227. p.g.sharrow says:

    One of the great things about absentee voting is you can vote early and vote often. A small town in Alaska that I was involved with had more absentee ballots come in then all the people that lived in the town.and the voters that lived there voted on election day in person. But there was no voter fraud……………yeah right. How else can you get 140% turnout?…pg

  228. Serioso says:

    While it is certainly true that politics makes fools of us all – me too – I cannot escape from my overall sense of schadenfreude. I almost feel sorry for you who support(ed) Mr. Trump. But not very sorry.

  229. p.g.sharrow says:

    I fear Trump will win in a landslide. The Beast will turn the Elites world upside down. The pendulum of the body politic that swung hard left will now swing hard right…pg

  230. Gail Combs says:

    I finally found one of Sundance’s articles on the Monster Vote.

    …In a rare admission today, the New York Times is walking back over 10 years of prior demographic presentations regarding the U.S. electorate. In essence what they are saying is the voting base is far less ethnically diverse and far more white than historic leftist presentations…

    We would particularly draw your attention to the following:

    Why is that 10 million figure important?

    Back in February 2016, after compiling approximately two years of non quantifiable voter trend and sentiment data, the first four primary races were held: Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada.

    That was the first time we were able to overlay the non quantifiable (data assembly) with the empirical results of four primary contests….

    You might remember we found a jaw-dropping trend that was narrowing toward one possible reasonable conclusion; but we didn’t want to get out in front of our skis, so we asked a professional statistician to review –then summarize– our model.

    Every prediction from that late February analysis has proven accurate. The remaining prediction was this:

    […] In 2008 21.9 million Republicans voted in the primary and 58.1 million voted in the general election (265% increase). In 2012 19.2 million primary -vs- 59.2 million in the general (308% increase).

    If those increases are even remotely maintained given the scope of the current increase in Republican Primary participation, the general election vote would be through the roof.

    And here is where you begin to understand the potential scope of the 2016 primary voter for the Republican nominee, Donald J Trump. This is the bottom line the media and establishment republicans do not want to see discussed. This is the potential for the “Trump Effect”:

    That jaw-dropping number, 7.2 million more potential votes than Barack Obama carried in 2008 and almost 13 million more than Mitt Romney carried in 2012, is the least result achievable when you turn out THE MONSTER VOTE.

    Remember, this same predictive model NAILED the turnout on both the GOP Primary side and the Democrat primary side….

    What the New York Times is statistically beginning to quantify is the existence of The Monster Vote. If you look closely at the data behind their newly discovered 10 million potential/predictable voters, you’ll notice the additional votes carry to exactly what we predicted in February…

    This is why the Hillary camp is panicking and tossing out all the mud and sleaze as rapidly as they can manufacture it. This is why the Media is using Psy-ops like Agenda polling to make people THINK the race is close. The elite CAN’T steal an election with Trump 10 to 20 points ahead. They have to make people believe the race is very close for two reasons:

    1. So the dedicated democratic voters are not discouraged and therefore do not vote.
    2. To cover for the planned election shenanigans.

    On the other hand We, who are part of the insurrection and retaking of our Federal Government have to vote and have to drag as many other people to the polls as possible.

  231. @Gail:
    ” They have to make people believe the race is very close for two reasons:

    1. So the dedicated democratic voters are not discouraged and therefore do not vote.
    2. To cover for the planned election shenanigans.”

    Given that highly Republican districts like Brevard county already have over a 60% turnout with 26 days left it seems that Trump has already motivated his voters.

    It might be even more interesting to check whether the early voting in strongly Democrat districts is above or below 2012.

  232. Larry Ledwick says:

    Looks like we have a back room brawl going on in the Ohio GOP, they are literally trying to throw the election for Hillary.

  233. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting info coming out of the FBI — I wonder could Comey get charged with obstruction of justice charges?


  234. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting that alternate news outlets are doing a better job of reporting on the sexual abuse shills for HRC than the big American news media.


    A new paradigm for news reporting here as well.

  235. Larry Ledwick says:

    It appears from this item on twitter that an order of magnitude more people are searching for information on Clinton rape than on Trump’s alleged groping.


  236. Larry Ledwick says:

    From Face book (fair use news worthy story and release by author in the work)
    This is how access back stage at beauty contests really works:

    Amy Colley Tyson with Jennifer Pitts McKenna and 6 others.
    4 hrs · Brentwood, TN ·

    Beyond proud of my fellow Miss USA sisters for fearlessly speaking truth despite criticism, ostracizing and the media’s complete fabrication of their statements to satisfy their agendas. Because of this, I have decided to give my own personal account of meeting Mr. Donald Trump in timeline format.
    DISCLAIMER: My experience at Miss USA 2005 has nothing to do with any political affiliation or endorsement. It has nothing to do with alleged victim’s statements from prior years. It is solely my experience from 2005. I hope this provides some clarification.

    I competed at Miss USA April 11th, 2005 televised from 9-11pm EST on NBC as Miss Tennessee USA. We were in Baltimore, Maryland for 3 weeks during the festivities. Chelsea Cooley, Miss USA 2005, was present in my dressing room. Also present: Miss Congeniality, Melissa Consin Young; Rachel ‘Saunders’ Imdieke, Miss Kansas; Meaghan Jarensky, Miss New York; Amy Crawford, Miss Washington; Tyler Willis Avary, Miss Texas; Jennifer Pitts, Miss Virginia.

    **6:00pm- delegates released to dressing rooms (2 rooms total) to begin prep for live telecast. We were assigned one of two rooms based on our state title in alphabetical order. My assigned area was directly across from entrance on right hand side between Texas and South Dakota. The organization gave us 2 ½ hours to complete prep.

    **8:20pm- 15 minute warning announced: chaperones, who were present at ALL times, announced Mr. Trump and his wife, Melania, would be briefly visiting the room to greet us. The chaperones instructed us to be completely dressed and appropriate.

    **8:30- 5 minute warning. The chaperones walked along the room to ensure we were appropriate and to offer assistance to anyone should they request.

    **8:35- Last announcement warning: this ensured we were appropriate and dressed. Mr. Trump and his wife, Melania, entered dressing area to say hello just after arriving to the building. Their visit was brief, pleasant, appropriate and 3 minutes maximum. Mr. Trump greeted us and wished us good luck. Melania spoke as well. Not once did he glance, speak or gesture inappropriately in our dressing room. He kept his gaze on Melania during most of the encounter. Chaperones were present at all times. Mr. Trump and his wife then exited to enter the next dressing room.

    **8:45- delegates released from dressing rooms to line up in wings stage right and left.

    **9:00pm-production begins

  237. Gail Combs says:

    Interesting photo.

    L-R: Jeb Bush, Rupert Murdoch, Valerie Jarrett – December 2014
    H/T Sundance @ ConservativeTreeHouse.

  238. Larry Ledwick says:

    Live flashmob in LA Latios for Trump on periscope

  239. Gail Combs says:

    Interesting Who is who at ‘Conservative’ Fox news and also how Shaw fudged the after debate pole.
    Rupert Murdoch Prepares Final Assault on Donald Trump – And Chris Wallace Debate Prep…

    And a thoughtful comment by Sundance.

    sundance says:
    October 12, 2016 at 8:23 pm

    It’s really quite odd how some things come full circle. I was thinking of this last night…

    It was the weaponization of government against a citizen that pushed us to spend so much time on the Zimmerman case because no-one was willing to go into that scurrilous rabbit hole.

    In 2012 political weaponization was evidenced in the collusion to convict a transparently innocent person, George Zimmerman. Five years later and the weaponization is evidenced in the collusion not to convict a transparently guilty person, Hillary Clinton.

    GEE, Isn’t that the definition of a Banana Republic? — No Rule of Law just Rule BY Outlaws?

  240. Gail Combs says:

    ROTFLMAO —- MSM Propaganda Machine, here is you next victim of assault by Trump!

  241. gallopingcamel says:

    “I fear Trump will win in a landslide. ”

    What is it that you fear? Here are some of Trump’s issues in no particular order:
    1. Secure the border.
    2. Stringent screening of immigrants.
    3. Reducing job killing regulations.
    4. Returning the control of K-12 education to the local communities.
    5. Reducing the federal debt.
    6. Reducing corporate taxes.

    Plus many more. This is the most issue driven election in decades so why the “Fear”?

  242. Gail Combs says:

    Oh MY, H/T to Keln of the ConservativeTreeHouse! He has gone international!

  243. Gail Combs says:

    Seems the DemonRats didn’t learn from the backfiring of Hillary’s Deplorable remark.

    Ridicule is a weapon for which there is no defense.

    And this one is even better:

  244. Gail Combs says:

    HMMmmmm, interesting

    “In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is…in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.” ~ Theodore Dalrymple

  245. pg sharrow says:

    @gallopingcamel; ;-) Great change causes disruption, good and bad. Turmoil creates opportunity for other mischief.
    The international crime organisation of the Clintons must be stopped and our republic returned to Constitutionally limited governance.

    The “Beast” is the next player to walk onto the stage…pg

  246. Gail Combs says:

    It seems more of the Black Americans are deserting the Democrat Plantation.

    And this

  247. pg sharrow says:

    The philosophy of Thomas Moore is finally dying. The giverment always takes more then it gives.
    The Internet has freed Knowledge and Information from the grasp of the Elite and spread it to all that seek it.
    The connected Elite that lust to rule Us all are few that create nothing valuable.
    We don’t need them…pg

  248. gallopingcamel says:

    Thanks for the explanation………you had me thinking you preferred Hillary!

    As you say the Internet is a great equalizer. One of Trump’s greatest achievements is exposing the lack of objectivity in the “Media”.

    Major newspapers that endorsed a presidential candidate:
    Hillary Clinton = 79
    Donald Trump = 1

    The “Press” is just the propaganda arm of Leftist elites.

  249. Larry Ledwick says:

    Looks to me that the folks who are paying attention to the details and uncontrollable indexes like the number of yard signs and bumper stickers or rally attendance are all coming to the same conclusion that Hillary is really losing badly if there is a high turn out of Republicans and long time no vote crowd the so called “monster vote” of people who usually don’t vote because they see the system rigged and no practical difference between the two major party candidates. That cohort is actually nearly the size of the D and R cohorts combined if you can get it to participate it could easily swing the election hard with a land slide for which ever side it responds to.

    From twitter:
    Sharyl Attkisson ‏@SharylAttkisson 11 minutes ago
    NBC/WSJ interviewed 440 who identify as Dems, 370 Repubs. So 70 (18.9%) more Dems. HC is ahead in this sample by 10 percentage pts.

    Bill Mitchell ‏@mitchellvii 12 minutes ago
    2008, a huge year for Democrats, was D+7. Current polls are averaging D+11 samples.

    Sharyl Attkisson ‏@SharylAttkisson 10 minutes ago
    If somebody has better poll context or if I”m misreading NBC/WJS tweet me. I learned a little from my polling expert/story last week.

    Sharyl Attkisson ‏@SharylAttkisson 10 minutes ago
    Just for curiosity sake since most polls iview more Dems, wd be interesting to see results of poll that iviews 18% more Repub.

    Sharyl Attkisson ‏@SharylAttkisson 10 minutes ago
    I guess the argument against that is the belief that substantially more Dems will vote… but since this is a strange yr it’s hard to know

    Sharyl Attkisson ‏@SharylAttkisson 18m18 minutes ago
    Sharyl Attkisson Retweeted DanRiehl
    So accdg to NBC/WSJ sample, HC ahead of Trump 10 percentage points in poll that interviewed 18.9% more Dems than Repubs

    Sharyl Attkisson ‏@SharylAttkisson 26m26 minutes ago
    Pollsters trying 2 do good job, I’ve spoken to several, they don’t know how to model accurately for this yrs turnout. Doing their best but
    “@SharylAttkisson: ” Seem 2b using turnout models of ‘likely voters’ from ’08 & ’12 that REALLY don’t apply to ’16. Wholly diff electorate.

    Bill Mitchell ‏@mitchellvii 43m43 minutes ago
    Isn’t it odd how few Hillary signs there are compared to Trump signs?
    @mitchellvii drove across the entire state of PA on wed. 100s of trump signs. Lots handmade. 1 hillary sign and 1 hillary for prison sign.

    Bill Mitchell ‏@mitchellvii 32m32 minutes ago
    Bill Mitchell Retweeted #MediasNextTrumpLie
    Kaine just drew 50 people at his rally. Here’s Mike Pence.

    Jenifer ن ‏@jeniferbo85 26 minutes ago
    @keknocrat @mitchellvii @bakedalaska That wasn’t a rally, was it? He [Kaine] was speaking at Liberty University.

    Sharyl Attkisson ‏@SharylAttkisson Oct 14
    FYI: Trump behind in most Democrat-heavy polls…(but ahead by 2 in Rasmussen, which weights for political party.)
    @SharylAttkisson @mgdmd1 Rand’s Daybreak 2012 poll was the most accurate. Its methodology is being used for the LA Times poll.
    Michael Doherty ‏@mgdmd1 32 minutes ago Michigan, USA
    @Hollin_Drew @SharylAttkisson Thanks! It’s different this year , so I have no idea who to believe, but I don’t believe turnout will be D+11

  250. Gail Combs says:

    Good Grief Pence a Vice Presidential candidate is getting a larger crowd than Hillary a Presidential candidate.

    The Pence crowd from Larry’s post above

    Hillary at a ‘captured’ audience of (Black) National Baptists at their national convention where Hillary Clinton was the key note speaker. (September 5-9, 2016 at the Kansas City Convention) The 2016 Democratic Convention will be held at the Wells Fargo Center in Philadelphia July 25th-28th so this is about a month after the nomination.

    “The Kansas City Convention Center was set up in the same manner as the prior days general sessions where almost every seat was full. According to the convention center “This annual meeting typically draws 20,000 or more delegates”.”link

    They had to cut the room down to make it look close to full

    The attendance that Hillary could not get despite ‘captive audience’

    The floor diagram of the seating:

    “Meanwhile outside the Baptist Convention venue”

    We just did a Black birthday party for some very nice people with lovely children. They handed us some literature afterwards that was NOT at all flattering to Obama……

  251. Gail Combs says:

    A.F. Branco’s cartoons catch the current MSM position beautifully.

    More great cartoons HERE

  252. Gail Combs says:

    And the GOPe(stablishment)

  253. Larry Ledwick says:

    Just an observation.
    Based on the yard sign and bumper sticker index I am pretty sure there is little enthusiasm with Hillary, even in a strongly democratic area. These are communities which tried to pass Fracking prohibitions, and think Green energy is the greatest thing since sliced bread just outside the People’s Republic of Boulder.

    I work at a company with about 180 head count, During Obama’s re-election for his second term about 10 – 15 of them had some sort of pro-Obama bumper sticker. Last Friday I walked the parking lot and there is exactly one car with an HRC sticker on it. I live and work just outside Boulder Colorado, this year I have only seen maybe 2 HRC yard signs. On the roads around Boulder same story seldom see a HRC bumper sticker.

    I just realized in the last few days that there are just a handful of very hard core liberal folks on my facebook page which post pro-Hillary memes, some that I know for a fact are life long democrats (ie worked in the auto industry their entire career and strongly pro union etc.) put up anti-Hillary posts.

    For a while there they were putting up memes from “Occupy Democrats” all the time, but even those posts have dwindled to a slow trickle.

    I also realized that I was treating these posts like trolls and simply ignoring them, and it appears to my biased subjective eye that the same is happening from other commenters. Meme posts that would in the past have gotten 10,000 comments now have 2,300 comments. Posts about Trump only got virtue signaling responses from the folks on the left. The pro Trump folks simply ignored them knowing that to respond was like trying to answer the question “do you still beat your wife”.

    I am also sure that the polls are completely cooked and those showing HRC with a thin but comfortable lead of 2 – 6% really show she is losing by 2%-4% or more. It is my suspicion that the media has over played their hand enough so that many no longer pay any attention to them and the gullible who they can still manipulate think HRC has a thin but reliable lead (ie they have never shown her down more than a razor thin percentage point and she quickly recovered in their polls )

    As a result of all the above, I think the gullible will due to lack of enthusiasm and the apparent solid lead for Hillary be strongly disposed to find something else to do on election day (or they have already sent in an early ballot so no longer care).

    There is also the cohort who are too shy to say they support trump who give a nominal head nod to HRC in conversation but will actually post a vote for Trump.

    In a conversation at work a few days ago several were talking about how horrible the candidates were and one person made the comment that she did not like either candidate much, so will be voting for the Constitution – – (I interpret that as a vote for Trump and traditional interpretation non-activist Supreme Court Justices. but she was not willing to say out loud she would vote for Trump)

    Just for what it is worth. (you get what you pay for and all that)
    I will not be surprised if there is an historic landslide win by Trump just if nothing else as a resounding “screw you” to the establishment power players.

  254. Larry Ledwick says:

    Those darn violent Trump supporters – – – so who’s violent here?
    Let’s see how long it takes for mainstream media to mention this which was reported by UK papers just minutes ago (Published: 15:01 EST, 16 October 2016)


  255. Larry Ledwick says:

    Holy crap CNN actually has the chutzpah to tell people it is illegal for them to search wikileaks!

  256. Gail Combs says:

    Hillsborough NC????

    WTF that is NOT inner city.

    It is a very yuppy type high income town.

    “The median income for a household in the town was $40,111, and the median income for a family was $46,793. “
    (My town has a “median income for a household — $34,804, and the median income for a family — $39,447.”)
    Population: 6,381 (2013)


  257. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:
    Bill Mitchell liked this
    Dean ‏@DeanSchanzel Oct 15
    Professor Norpoth predicts Trump has a 87% chance to beat Hillary. – He predicted 5 of last 5 correctly Google him.

  258. gallopingcamel says:

    I lived in Hillsborough, North Carolina and set up the Orange Charter School there so it is hard to believe that something like this could happen there:

    I note that the school has changed its name. Perhaps because it wants to dissociate itself from Orange county.

  259. Larry Ledwick says:

    Please fasten your seat belts, we expect a brief period of turbulence ahead, put away laptop computers and lock your tray tables up – – thank you.


  260. Larry Ledwick says:

    It appears that Podesta’s Russian connections are more than just rumor and the fact he lobbied for Russian interests.

  261. Gail Combs says:

    Fox news reported Trump rally at the Cincinnati stadium was half full. However according to local media reports there were approximately 7,000 additional supporters outside when the venue reached capacity of 20,000.

    Lie much?

    Seems Trump supporters have had enough of Media Lies and collusion.

    BREAKING: Trump Crowd Shames Mainstream Media at Cincinnati, OH Rally!
    The reporters even left early.

    I think after the reporters got attacked in Charlotte NC they are realizing they could be at risk. A CNN reporter was purposefully rammed by protester and knocked to the ground and another report indicated that a news photographer was beaten before the protesters tried to throw him into a fire they had set. WCCB later said that their media crew was being taken to the hospital.

    At this point I do not think ANY Trump supporters believe the MSM at all.

  262. Larry Ledwick says:

    Sharyl Attkisson one of the last real journalists examines “newsgate” recent revelations of improper relations and manipulation of the news by politically active journalists outed by wikileaks dump.


  263. Gail Combs says:

    Fox News Sean Hannity does a good job covering the Wikileak John Podesta emails. He caught some I did not. (These Utubes are the only way I watch TV)

    NEW WIKILEAKS Revelations DEADLY For Hillary Clinton

  264. Larry Ledwick says:

    Wikileaks apparently is beginning to step on too many powerful toes.

    From twitter:
    Stefan Molyneux Retweeted
    Roger Stone ‏@RogerJStoneJr 3 hours ago (approx 23:00 EDT)

    John Kerry has threatened the Ecuadorian President with “grave consequences for Equador” if Assange is not silenced @StoneColdTruth

    Stefan Molyneux Retweeted
    WikiLeaks ‏@wikileaks 40 minutes ago (approx 01:20 EDT)
    Julian Assange’s internet link has been intentionally severed by a state party. We have activated the appropriate contingency plans.

    It will be interesting to see if this triggers a “dead man switch” data dump via other means.

  265. E.M.Smith says:


    That video of the rally is interesting… I’ll have to see if RightSide B. has it in their saved set. They ought to.

    BTW, while YouTube is nice, the TV links here: https://chiefio.wordpress.com/tv/

    Give a lot of nice variety. I’m particularly fond of the RT and Sky and France24 ones as you get a very non-US external view of the USA… the contrast with USA source material just makes the ‘spin’ and ‘propaganda’ bits stand out in stark relief (both ways).


    Remember Silk Road? It was “taken down” several times only to immediately pop up on another internet feed from another place. I do mean instantly… A sleeper server that gets keepalive pings (i.e. that checks to see if a monitor box says the original is up) and when a NO is found, autoboots the replacement Virtual Machine elsewhere… It was a great ‘whack-a-mole’ game to watch…

    IMHO Wikileaks is at least as smart…

  266. Gail Combs says:

    Georgiafl, points out something I think guys, especially those in the media are completely missing.

    AMERICAN (and European) WOMEN are much more concerned about illegals and Islamists raping them AND THEIR CHILDREN than they are about Donald Trump’s alleged – unproven – unwanted advances!!!! [I will add on adult women, who are ugly as sin…]

    Get real news media.

    Look at the havoc Hillary and Bill have caused and what ABSOLUTE HELL Hillary wants to bring to the USA.

    Don’t forget Obama is seeding these Rape-ugees in small towns across the nation. Hillary wants 550 times as many brought in even though she admits in the leaked emails we can not determine whether or not they are terrorists.

    James Dellingpole certainly backs up the Islamic rape culture in the UK HERE and in several other articles. We have also seen it happening in the USA with the same type of government cover-up. (Parents threatened)

    President Obama and Hillary Clinton’s War On Little Girls
    Raped By PC – Five-Year-Old Idaho Girl Raped By Three Iraqi and Sudanese Refugees – Politically Correct Local Government Frozen…

    And a newer one, this time an illegal.
    Illegal Alien Kidnaps and Rapes Six-Year-Old Girl in Texas…

    WHAT is with these people raping babies?

    I agree with Georgiafl when she then adds:

    I dearly hope Donald Trump finds Lorena Bobbitt to head his new National Department of Surgical Treatment for Rapists.

  267. Larry Ledwick says:

    I agree I am sure wikileaks has anticipated this for a long time, also I would not be at all surprised if Anonymous goes all in to crush folks who got fingered by wikileaks if they get pulled down completely as I am confident that there is considerable bleed over between wikileaks and Anonymous membership and they will see this sort of action as a declaration of war against open internet access and information flow.

    The administration (assuming they are the government actor here) may be starting a fight they can’t win.

  268. Gail Combs says:


    My thoughts exactly.

    The younger set, under age 50, grew-up with computers and since ~1990 were used to having internet access of one sort or another. You are talking around 50% or more of the US population being between 15 and 50. These are the people Kerry is ticking-off, 150 million Americans many with really good hacking skills. NOT SMART

    As the Trump crowd showed, they are NOT happy with the MSM or the collusion between the DNC and the MSM. Kerry just tossed a tanker load of gasoline on that ‘cold anger’

    (In 2001, 21% of the USA pop were under 15 and 13% over 65.)

  269. Larry Ledwick says:

    Some guy is doing a periscope video infront of the embassy.

  270. Gail Combs says:

    I nearly choked on my morning tea….

    Thurstan says: Can’t wait for news next year that President Trump’s campaign costs were all paid for by the libel settlements. As he says, Who do you want working for you?

    If that becomes true I will be grinning ear to ear.

  271. Gail Combs says:

    Facebook is gaslighting the public.

    georgiafl says:
    Strange goings on – Donald Trump’s Facebook has not gained in the last couple of hours, but suddenly has started losing over the last hour or two. Facebook had started increasing more rapidly than normal over the last couple of days. Do you think the Clinton trolls are doing this to make it appear that Trump is losing support?
    Zuckerberg could also be doing this.

    Instagram and Twitter are increasing as usual.

    Bull Durham replies

    The new meme from the day’s polls at Fox. He’s losing support. 4%. So, they will “adjust his numbers” at FB. You don’t think FB, Zuckerbug and the NSA/CIA/Obama folks can’t do anything they want with content on that platform do you? They do it. It’s simple code on the backend. Of course they can. They are pulling Facial Recognition data from everyone’s photos of Grandma and babies. Why do you think FB, Google and NSA have global data centers that can store images of every grain of sand on the planet?

    Wake up, folks! FB and Twitter and Youtube and all your Search items are government property. You just didn’t know. And they can place stuff on your pages without you knowing, just incase they need to “find evidence” when they need to.

    It’s worse than East Germany and Stasi. Marcus Wolf would be in ecstasy with the tools of these social platforms.

    And watch out for Amazon. They have the CIA contract for Cloud Computing. Amazon is the most sophisticated software company on Earth, totally in bed with Tyranny.

    E.M. Larry? How much of the rest that is not bold is Tinfoil hat stuff?

    And another reply from Duke Taber

    I can confirm that FB does indeed strip followers away at times. I had it done to my FB page of 155k twice. Both times they said it was just because of housecleaning of fake and inactive accounts. I didn’t buy it.

  272. Gail Combs says:

    It seems that the Cincinnati rally and the crowd booing the media (see “Seems Trump supporters have had enough of Media Lies and collusion” up thread) really got to the media and they are now reacting.

    wolfmoon1776 says:
    …….I think this giant rally in Ohio really scares the bejeezus out of them.

    Take a look at this CNN jouno’s feed on Twitter. They are panicking, and basically going Full Godwin on us. One journo suggests we need a “massive campaign of media literacy” – which I hear is also known as reeducation. Others are grasping at the antisemitism straw – hard. All of them are acting like it’s the end of the world, and that press freedom is threatened by Trump.

    Oh, noes!


    Here is the panic post that’s drawing out the moonbat press.

    I feel like sending him a copy of “The Turner Diaries” with a picture of Pepe and the inscription “Best Election Ever”. I know that’s mean, but these jerks who pretend to be journalists stole our free press. They deserve a bit of self-awareness. If they’re going to have irrational fears anyway, we might as well help them out.

    Brian Stelter is the senior media correspondent for CNN and the host of Reliable Sources. Previously he was a media reporter for The New York Times and the editor of TVNewservice.

    Here is one of the twitter

  273. Gail Combs says:

    This is another email from the oddball Orca100. However this time it is very very good with a compilation of quotes and videos to support his narrative.

    The fact that Podesta received this email detailing the horror show in Europe means he, and by extension Hillary have ZERO plausible denaibility.


    Multikultistan: A house of horrors for ordinary Germans
    Date: 2016-02-21 00:51
    Subject: Multikultistan: A house of horrors for ordinary Germans

  274. Larry Ledwick says:

    The story told by that email is so tragic and because western media is incompetent or complicit the reality of European multiculturalism is not getting out in a timely manner. Germany, France Sweden, etc will pay an awful price to clean up this mess. Because of the inability of the governments to face the facts I fear the problem will be solved (or at least confronted) by mobs in the street and a civil war between ethnic groups in those countries. We will see a return to the massive religious wars of historic Europe and a new 50 – 100 years war for the 21st century.

    This may be a secondary issue in Putin’s behavior, I suspect he sees that in a few years maybe a decade or two, he will have a hostile Islamic hoard on his doorstep to the west. It is entirely conceivable that in time Russia will be the European savior for countries like Poland who don’t want to be enveloped and swallowed by the Islamic amoeba of multiculturalism.

  275. Larry Ledwick says:

    An interesting article on Trump and this election – free speech and political correctness.

  276. Jeff says:

    @Larry and Gail: It is not unusual in north Germany (NRW, Berlin, Hamburg, Köln, for the most part) for the police to make a traffic stop, or an inquiry visit, and be surrounded in short order by tens, if not HUNDREDS of angry “family” members. (I’m searching for a non-German article about this – have lots of German ones).

    Lebanese clans basically run Berlin and Hamburg, divvying up the various rackets (drugs, prostitution, petty and grand theft, fencing, etc.) between the various “tribes” and the Rockers (Hells’ Angels, Bandidos, etc.). It is actually a long-standing problem that has been more-or-less ignored and concealed by politicians and overburdened/underbudgeted police authorities that the added influx of young, violent Moslems has exacerbated.

    The various “Gastarbeitern” that Germany brought in during the Wirtschaftswunder to fill the roles of the missing men (from WWII) have all integrated (Italian, Greek, Turkish, Spanish, Portugese, and some Asian) with the glaring exception of the Turks, who, even four generations on, remain self-isolated. The operative word here being self, as others have reached out to them, but their culture and religion forbid them to assimilate.

    I live in a small town (14K residents or so) in south Germany, which, until a few years ago was a typical German town. Now, since all towns have to take a quote of “refugees”, the whole character of the city has changed, even to the point that in the grocery stores pork and beef (and “gemisched”) products are segregated, and “Halal” products are appearing, and in some cases featured on the shelves. Funny that Kosher never got such attention.

    Shopping after 17:00 or so has become hit or miss, almost like being at a bazaar, as the displays in the stores are jumbled after this point, and I’m often the only one of European heritage shopping at that hour (nightowl here – “Jeff-lag”). The mom-and-pop shops that dotted our admittedly small market-street are being replaced one-by-one with Turkish or Moroccan or other non-German shops, even Shisha-Bars, with even the Italian Pizzerias being forced out by Kebap shops.

    Some of the families (including my wife’s) have been in this town or area over 1000 years, and they’ve never seen anything like this. It really is a lot worse than Merkel &co. would have anyone believe, nor than what the main-scream-media would report. The AfD, UKIP, FPÖ,
    and Le Pen are gaining support because of this, and here in Germany, the AfD is now the third-strongest party, ahead of the Greens, “Die Linke”, the FDP, and a host of other, smaller parties.
    Interesting times, indeed.

  277. @Larry That’s a quite damning story. Hope it at least goes viral in the Twitter-verse. Not holding my breath wrt msm.

  278. Larry Ledwick says:

    EM you may want to grab images of some of these files, this is exactly what you and I were suspecting would happen.

  279. Gail Combs says:

    I notice in that National Review article that Jeremy Carl took it as given that Trump was a horrible nasty person who eats babies for breakfast.

    He never sees the Trump who while out on the Town in NYC had his cab stop so he could prevent a thug from beating someone to death or the Trump who sent his own plane to carry a very ill jewish boy from CA to NY to see a specialist. He doesn’t see the guy, who while his companies were going through chapter 11, had to be put on a budget of no more that $100,000? a week to be given away directly by him by his accountant.

    THIS man, this generous man is the one who decided to put himself in the cross-hairs. Make no mistake he knew he would be the target of slander abuse and possibly bankruptcy and assassination but he did it anyway. His son said Obama’s Iraq deal was the final straw BTW.

  280. Larry Ledwick says:

    EM it might be about time to consider an “Hillary Wikileaks & Trump “issues” Collection part2” thread this one is loading/refreshing kind of slow for me.

  281. Larry Ledwick says:

    @Gail — E.M. Larry? How much of the rest that is not bold is Tinfoil hat stuff?

    It is pretty much all technically possible. The question is how far do those actors think they can go before the destroy the credibility of their product. Also how much money do they want to burn on code development to allow efficient directed manipulation of user posts. Depending on their code architecture it could be trivial or a major overhaul which could produce unintended secondary effects which would out the project.

    We are currently seeing this in the media as more and more folks are closely watching what they put up and do not put up, and catch edits and changes in articles almost in real time.

    Although transparent to the casual user that sort of manipulation always leaves some sort of tracks behind which knowledgeable people can monitor. We already have cases of random posts and tweets simply disappearing and viewer counts suddenly decreasing on controversial videos.

  282. E.M.Smith says:


    I’d love to grab a copy via torrent, but don’t have the ability (i.e. time) until this evening. On the road and with other obligations.

    Anyone want to find / publish the link to do the actual download?

    As per a “Part 2” Yeah, wanted to do it last Friday but “life happens”… I’ve got a few minutes now so …

    Part Two continues here:


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