Over here: https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2016/10/06/tribal-islam-tribal-left-moral-we/#comment-72886
Gail had said:
Not sure where to put this. (Maybe start a Hillary Wikileaks page?)
Speech Flags (There are 80 pages of this stuff) so just a couple on China.
Well, given that for the next week or two wikileaks will be leaking a lot of stuff in the Hillary, and given that The Donald did locker room talk with an open microphone, and then given the debate tomorrow… that just seemed like a good idea.
So this is an “open comment” page for all things Wikileaks, Hillary, and Der Donald related, may we live through the next couple of weeks…
To start it off, a quote of a bit of what Gail has in that other comment:
Hillary Clinton Said She Warned China That If North Korea Continued Developing Its Missle Program, The US Would “Ring China With Missile Defense.”
“You know, we all have told the Chinese if they continue to develop this missile program and they get an ICBM that has the capacity to carry a small nuclear weapon on it, which is what they’re aiming to do, we cannot abide that. Because they could not only do damage to our treaty allies, namely Japan and South Korea, but they could actually reach Hawaii and the west coast theoretically, and we’re going to ring China with missile defense. We’re going to put more of our fleet in the area. So China, come on. You either control them or we’re going to have to defend against them.” [ Speech to Goldman Sachs, 2013 IBD Ceo Annual Conference, 6/4/13]
Hillary Clinton Said The Chinese “Have A Right To Assert Themselves” In The South China Sea But The US Needed To “Push Back” So They Don’t Get A Chokehold Over World Trade.“
[…]
It goes on from there…
I will just note in passing “don’t get a chokehold on world trade”? Well since they are well on their way to becoming all of “world trade” in manufactures (and then how far behind can financial products be?…) I don’t really see what difference it will make if they own the waters through which all their ships move carrying the bulk of all world trade… /sarc;
With that, here you have it: Open Season / Posting on the Friday Document Dumps and “Why in hades did he say that” and more…
Me? I’m busy making comfort food… we’re gonna need it, whoever wins…
Musings from the Chiefio 
Thanks E.M.
I notice the women at other sites agree with me the leaked billy bush – Trump conversation is a nothing burger. Men trash talk all the time. Also someone mentioned in California the open mic WITHOUT Donald’s knowledge it’s illegal. (2 person consent state same as NC.)
It also opens wide the door on Hillary laughing about getting a rapist off who raped a 12 year old and put her in a coma for 5 days.
Of course this is all about diverting attention from the emails.
This is the funniest so far.
Interesting polling analysis on the current “joke on a bus” scandle
Seems Trump dropped slightly but Hillary actually dropped more so he had a net gain.
Seems climate scientists are not the only targets of the censors.
“The Drop Dobbs campaign and other efforts. **Media Matters* played a leading role in the Drop Dobbs Coalition” https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/548
This one I think is very very important because it makes it clear that both the Bush family and Obummer are Globalists and the anti-Russia talk is because Putin refuses to get on board. Also don’t forget that Putin tossed George Soros and his Open Society agitators out.
It is rather long so here are some of the meaty parts.
This one raised an eyebrow
Meeting with Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Zarif.
Remember Huma is connected to Saudi Arabia and the Muslim Brotherhood.
Statement from some billionaire supporters of Trump, that they are sticking with him.
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/08/gop-donors-robert-rebekah-mercer-stand-donald-trump/
Someone should collect a bunch of those media out takes of locker room talk by media as a counter point to their faux outrage over Trumps comments.
I also agree with the comment about taping, if it is abhorrent to undercover tape Planned Parenthood doctors talking about ripping babies apart so that they can sell their organs, or do under cover taping of Acorn to uncover corruption than why does that not apply to the disclosure of these open mike comments?
Clinton and immunity deals for her staff
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/440853/hillary-clinton-email-lawyers-cheryl-mills-heather-samuelsons-problematic
MORE:
(John Podesta’s current position is Hillary’s Campaign Chairman. BTW)
*Hillary Clinton: “When I Got To The State Department, It Was Still Against The Rules To Let Most — Or Let All Foreign Service Officers Have Access To A Blackberry.”
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927#efmEaOEbXEbYEcg
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Formulas against fascist propaganda (Targets Bernie)
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1101
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Clinton press secretary Nick Merrill talks about having “friendly” reporters who they rely on to regurgitate their talking points. — Paul Joseph Watson
“NYT Follow-up”
“We have gotten only 2 inquiries today”
Hunter Walker at Business Insider
Billy House at BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1292
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More collusion between Clinton and media from LBB
There can be not doubt that the US MSM is now as bad as Pravda after reading these e-mails.
Could the “locker room” tape be some sort of odd payback for Trump knocking Jeb out of the race? And why did it take 10-11 years for this tape to surface (let alone the fact it was probably done without the consent of the parties involved)? Could it have something to do with one of the “videoees” being a Bush, and G.H.W. Bush having just thrown his support to Hillary?
Something doesn’t seem right here. The Democrats have gone REALLY low with this one…
I’ve heard far worse, erm, conversation where I work; moreover I’ve been told some of the exchanges in the ladies’ room make this sound like potty jokes from little kids…
First a 21-year-old tax return, now an 11-year-old off-color remark, what next? A one-year-old parking ticket?
Interesting that McCain is withdrawing support of Trump due to the “locker room talk”
I wonder if he has a recollection of this incident?
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_temper_boiled_over_in_92_0407.html
I’m sure equivalent items could be found on all the major political players.
If you want to talk Judas…
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1051
“From:THeditor@TownHallmail.com
To: JohnPodesta@gmail.com
Date: 2016-03-09 18:51
Subject: Is Cruz Our Last Hope To Beat Trump?“
So what in Hades is the Tea Party — Fresh, Conservative, Intelligent Reporting doing colluding with Hillary’s Campaign Chairman? Talk about a puppet show!
Gail Combs says:
8 October 2016 at 11:57 pm
What does Soros have against the Pharma companies? He has been a strong supporter of the legalize cannabis movement. The one good thing he has done. IMO.
Pharmaceutical Company Supports Cannabis Prohibition To Protect Its Profits
@Jeff
Trump may have gotten on everyone’s radar in 2003-04 when there was discussion of him running for president. If they thought it was a real possibility they would have started collecting Op research on him back then.
http://www.tvguide.com/news/donald-trump-presidential-campaign-timeline/
2003-2004: Trump begins hosting the reality show The Apprentice on NBC, which he also executive-produces. He again mulls a run for president, but ultimately decides not to join the race.
March 2011: A Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll shows Trump leading all presidential contenders, including Mitt Romney.
Given one of the players in that video is a Bush your suggestion has merit, although I have not watched it in detail to see if Billy Bush was leading the discussion and steering Trump into such a gaff.
As I recall he was responding to questions.
This item also suggests Billy Bush “prodded” Trump into that line of talk, so not just my recollection.
Given this is CNN they would of course prefer a spin that injures the Bush family too.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/08/media/billy-bush-donald-trump-video/
Gail Combs says:
9 October 2016 at 12:07 am
Valerie Jarrett was born in Iran.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2013/11/26/valerie-jarrett-chicago-and-the-iran-deal/
Scott Adams seems to have been “seeing the future”, as it were. Moreover, he’s right about kids these days. When I was on a bus, back in the 1970s, a child of 7 or 8 flipped us off! I shudder to think what they’d do now…
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/140752860706/who-trump-offends-with-his-salty-language
Gateway Pundit has some other “salties” (saltines?) going back to LBJ: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/flashback-video-presidents-colorful-including-obamas-btch-nigga-buy-damn-fries/
Clinton can’t win on the issues so she creates distractions aided and abetted by the “Media”. The latest distraction is so effective that I suspect that Trump is the architect. It is already beginning to backfire.
The “Media” and the RINOS created a perfect storm that boils down to “Trump must step down”. Trump responds “Never” thereby energizing his followers to savage the “Media” and the RINOS in equal measure.
The “Media” selected John McCain as the GOP candidate in 2008. It is only fitting that McCain should be a player in the Media/RINO meltdown.
The second presidential debate is going to be worth watching simply because Donald Trump will be there. You have to love this “Non-apology”:
The above video may be a preview of a more aggressive approach by Trump tomorrow. How effective will it be given that he is opposed by Hillary Clinton and two “Moderators”? You can be sure that the “Media” will award Hillary both ears and the tail. In spite of that the poll numbers will not shift in her favor.
Looks like the rank and file in the FBI have decided enough is enough and are starting to leak info.
http://rightwingnews.com/hillary-clinton-2/ticked-off-fbi-agents-coming-forward-insider-information-comey-clinton-probe/
Paul Ryan just put his political future on the line. He thinks that Trump is going to lose and that will make him the GOP nominee in 2020. Ryan, Rubio and McCain still don’t get it. By stabbing Trump in the back they are showing that they can’t be trusted and they don’t respect the voters who selected Trump.
These people are dishonourable RINOs. If they have a shred of integrity left they will change their political affiliation to Democrat.
There is already a stream of blow back photos showing up on twitter of folks who are going ballistic about Trump, showing them doing similar things. I am sure there are a bunch of Reddit kids out there combing through videos and images right now.
Pictures like some of the obscene T shirts about Palin which the left thought were so funny, one of Arnold Schwarzenegger fondling a dancer with his hands south of the line, and Cuomo checking out Christie Brinkley’s “equipment”, not to mention Hillary staring down Christina Aguilar’s cleavage.
As mentioned above a lot of Rino’s are black balling themselves with a large segment of the electorate with their holier than thou comments and fake outrage. Many of them have a reputation like Hillary of swearing like a sailor and being very crude when off stage.
They should have mirrored Trump’s apology and then turned the question back to the Left’s hypocrisy given some of the vicious innuendo and slander campaigns they have run in past elections especially against conservative women.
Banking…
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927
Jill Stein is rubbing Hillary’s nose in the above out takes of her speeches to Bankers.
This is good since it takes more votes away from Clinton. Looks like Jill is grabbing that Bucket of Losers and walking away with them. snicker
Oh MY, Matt Drudge just took Hillary to the mat…tress. [https://twitter.com/DRUDGE/status/784548241534771200]
In the Alexa news catagory Drudge ranks 22 just under UsaToday (16) Reuters (18) Economictimes.indiatimes (20) and CNN Money (21)
Brian Fallon is press secretary for Hillary Clinton.
This is prepping reporters on what to ask Clinton Re: BS and guns
(John Anzalone is a pollster)
Imposing manufacturer liability is what shutdown the small plane manufacturing in the USA. Hillary Darn well KNOWS what the results of imposing manufacturer liability would be.
Now compare the B.S. Hillary was spouting to this. Actually I was looking for the Judicial Watch info about the DOD offering military support to ambassador Stevens BEFORE the attack and Hillary ignoring the many many emails from ambassador Stevens frantically asking for beefed up security.
To put it bluntly Hillary is an accessory before the fact…
Judicial Watch: Defense, State Department Documents Reveal Obama Administration Knew that al Qaeda Terrorists Had Planned Benghazi Attack 10 Days in Advance
Administration knew three months before the November 2012 presidential election of ISIS plans to establish a caliphate in Iraq
Administration knew of arms being shipped from Benghazi to Syria
Judicial Watch has a lot more such as this
Another Clinton Email Coverup
” * Obama State Department Hid Key Clinton Benghazi Email from Judicial Watch
* New Benghazi Documents Reveal September 11, 2012, Hillary Clinton ‘Call Sheet’ Describes Benghazi Assault as Attack by ‘Armed Extremists’
* Cartels Help Terrorists in Mexico Get to U.S. to Explore Targets; ISIS Militant Shaykh Mahmood * Omar Khabir among Them”
If we had a 4th Estate instead of a Fifth Column Hillary would be no where near gaining the White House.
Chelsea Clinton reads a story…
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14441115_1778487845725899_7231710553745732881_n.jpg?oh=0c02881c1e6295ce5bfe4c75524d5b55&oe=586742D5
(Google will not pull this image up, I wonder why? snicker….)
orca100@upcmail.nl maybe a spammer from the Netherlands. However this set of news stories about Angela Merkel’s about face on immigration sent by him is interesting:
While most centrist & leftwing politicians lie liberally about (esp. Continental) Europe’s Immigration Disaster, Angela Merkel & Wouter Bos once blurted out the terrible truth, thereby sounding just like Pim Fortuyn
A look/see for orca100 comes up with an Arabic twitter acct. Muslim?? A “Berniecrat” suggests a racist affiliated with AIPAC. (The American Israel Public Affairs Committee)
Gail Combs says:
9 October 2016 at 12:10 pm
From your link:
Tragically, that’s not even scratching the surface in terms of the NUMBER of immigration-disaster subjects. For example, there’s no mention of anything from widespread political extremism and rampant Muslim anti-Semitism, to gay bashing and the ultraviolent mass grooming of white girls by Muslim men in Britain, the Netherlands, Germany, etc. (much more about that at a later date), to mention just a few items on an laundry list running from here to hell.
I assume that “mass grooming” he means rape. Here it is:
Child grooming is a term which describes the following situation. When an adult becomes friends with a child, this is sometimes done for a reason. The reason is to lower the inhibitions of the child and to prepare for sexual abuse. So, action taken by an adult to form a trusting relationship with a child, with the intent of later having sexual contact, is ‘child grooming’.[1]
The act of grooming a child may include activities that are legal, but later lead to sexual contact. The grooming is done to gain the child’s trust, and the trust of those responsible for the child. Children are less likely to report a crime if it involves someone the child knows, trusts, and cares about. Also, a relationship with the family means the child’s parents will be less likely to believe any accusations.
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_grooming
Note it is OPEN MARKETS aka access to consumers she is worried about and NOT business/job creation. That takes a rollback of regulation and fair trade deals. Hillary wants to continue to protect Wall Street and not help Main Street.
Snippets from Private Hillary Speeches:
Download file: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails//fileid/927/180
Lloyd Craig Blankfein is the CEO and Chairman of Goldman Sachs. He assumed this position upon the May 2006 nomination of former CEO Henry Paulson to United States Secretary of the Treasury. There are discussions between Hillary and Blankfein in that wikileak file.
The following set of e-mails are stranger than snake shoes.
For a bit of background:
Calphysics Institute: Introduction to Zero-Point Energy:
http://www.calphysics.org/zpe.html
John Podesta says his biggest failure of 2014 was not securing the disclosure of UFO files.
Link: http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/07/politics/john-podesta-hillary-clinton-ufo/
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https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1802
https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1766
ETI/ Terri Mansfield — link
And they compare climate skeptics to flat-earthers?????
Found the Judicial Watch article I was looking for.
Judicial Watch: New Benghazi Email Shows DOD Offered State Department “Forces that Could Move to Benghazi” Immediately – Specifics Blacked Out in New Document
Gail Combs says:
9 October 2016 at 1:11 pm
Zero Point Energy is real. The amount that can be currently collected at any point in space is so small as to be laughable.
And the “Dark Matter” theory appears to be currently in dispute. Possibly either measurement error or misinterpretation. “Dark Energy” may go the same way.
It would be nice if politicians had a feel for physics. But they probably wouldn’t be politicians then would they?
I haven’t ground my way through all of these – but I think that the answer to Jeff says:
9 October 2016 at 12:46 am Could the “locker room” tape be some sort of odd payback for Trump I would think that there is a store of these items held over the head of everyone in public life. To keep them in line. It would certainly explain some totally contrary behaviors from the SCOTUS to senate voting. But we are now seeing panic break out as Trump is taking no notice presumably of the threat followed by the actuality. All the political wussies like Ryan are running for the hills as this will probably get worse. The elite are really threatened and that could mean that there is something bigger hidden in a back cupboard that is more disconcerting than a real skeleton. This is why we see Bush (saying he will be) voting for Clinton obviously accepting an activist supreme court damaging the country and constitution for decades is better than what they expect to happen to their elite if Trump is elected. Truly “Something is rotten in the state of Denmark. ” perhaps we will get to find out what is panicking the elites.
This type of attack was planned for a while.
“Zero point energy” is techno-babble for the electrical pressure of charge of the Universe.
Imagine an atmosphere that is compressed to 10,000psi and there was an ability to cause the creation of a 10 to the minus 5 void in it at the speed of light..
The creation of a an atom of Hydrogen from a Neutron increases the “pressure”.
The creation of a Neutron from a Hydrogen atom decreases the “pressure”.
We know how to cause the first reaction with our fission/fusion atomic energy industry. The second reaction is the one under question and experiment
Prophecy is that GOD will give humanity two gifts during this time,
One is the ability to create energy and passivate radioactivity. The opposite of our present use.
The other is the ability of true space flight by the electronic/electrical manipulation of space.
This problem of virulent Islam must be solved first. GOD will not allow Warlords access to space…pg
@Ian W: Your comment just made me wonder – What did Scalia know? His death remains as mysterious as Breitbart’s and most of the other “Arkancide” victims.
Certainly, considering the access to information that the Clintons had, both legally and illegally, they would be able to get damning info on just about anyone. But maybe there’s a Balrog in that closet,
as it were. With all the new media, and the younger generation’s use of it as opposed to MSM, the powers that be can’t hide as much or as well as they used to. I just hope the Republican party doesn’t shred itself (which I think is one of the things Hildebeast and the RINOs are after). Could end up like the Whigs in Lincoln’s time….
@ Gail: Looks like Scott Adams also considered Trump’s “colorful” speech, back in March. His take on it is good, and also shows that Hillary &co. are out of touch – http://blog.dilbert.com/post/140752860706/who-trump-offends-with-his-salty-language
Hillary, the RINOs, and TPTB have no solutions, so they can only criticize…
The Educated Connected Elites greatly fear Trump. This “Beast” and his followers can destroy the well ordered universe that they enjoy. As the hands of GOD move!…pg
Clinton is given a heads up on inquiry into the Clinton Foundation after Grassley sent a letter to AG Lynch requesting same. Doesn’t leave much doubt about where Lynch loyalty lies does it?
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/286
CAST OF CHARACTERS
Jennifer Palmieri is Director of Communications for the 2016 Hillary Clinton presidential campaign. She left her post as communications director for Obama’s White House in February. She moved into that same high-level slot on the Clinton campaign, where she manages candidate message, media relations–and trouble-shooting.
Kristina Schake a former aide to Michelle Obama NYT: This Woman’s Job Is to Recast Hillary Clinton’s Image
Tony CarrkClinton campaign research director
creynolds maybe Chelsea Clinton who Goes By Diane Reynolds when emailing Hillary Clinton
Maura Pally is the senior vice president of programs at the Clinton Foundation. In this role, Maura oversees the strategic and operational efforts
Charles Ernest “Chuck” Grassley is the REPUBLICAN senior United States Senator from Iowa, serving since 1981. He was chairman of the Senate Finance Committee from January to June 2001, as well as from January 2003 to December 2006, and is now the current chairman of the Judiciary Committee of the 114th congress.
Cheryl D. Mills served as deputy White House Counsel for President Bill Clinton, whom she defended during his 1999 impeachment trial. She is now an aide to Hillary.
Heather Samuelson, a lawyer and 2008 Clinton campaign staffer, worked under Mills and Clinton’s attorney David Kendall to sift through Hillary’s emails. She helped separate those that were purely personal, which were not turned over to the State Department, from those that were work-related. link
Huma Mahmood Abedin serves as vice chairwoman of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign for President. Prior to that, she served as the deputy chief of staff to U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton from 2009 to 2013 and married to sexual deviant Anthony Weiner.
John Podesta is the Chairman of the 2016 Hillary Clinton presidential campaign. Podesta previously served as Chief of Staff to President Bill Clinton and Counselor to President Barack Obama.
@Jeff; I think it is the Democratic Party that is in self-destruct and the Republicans in renewal…pg
Jeff says:
9 October 2016 at 3:48 pm
Scalia voted in Raich to support Wickard vs Filburn. Was he loaded up with anti-drug hysteria? Or something else.
BTW he was an old man – 87 IIRC. Sometimes they do die naturally.
p.g.sharrow says:
9 October 2016 at 4:04 pm
The FORCE is strong with that one.
A comment on one of the Trump responses from Dr. Ben Carson.
This comment appeared in a local news paper “The Advocate” but not completely sure where that paper is located, although a little facebook cruising on the original commentators page makes me think it is a student newspaper in Albuquerque New Mexico.
Millions of trump supporters feel this way about Donald J. Trump…..
“We don’t care if the guy swears… or how many times he’s been married…or who he voted for, or what his income tax return shows. We want the problems fixed. Yes he’s an egomaniac, but we don’t care. We know he’s not a racist, or bad to women, or all the other things the liberal media is trying to label him with. We know he’s raised a good family, and that says a lot about him.
The country is a mess because politicians suck, the Republican Party is two faced & gutless, and illegals are everywhere and Muslims are openly trying to hurt this country and make the civilized world adjust to them. We want it all fixed!
We don’t care that Trump is crude, we don’t care that he has changed positions, we don’t care that he fights with Megan Kelly, Rosie O’Donnell, and so many of the elected establishment. We don’t care that Rubio, Ryan, the Bush’s, and so many other top old and new Republicans refuse to endorse him for their own selfish reasons, and we know what they are. We don’t care that he doesn’t know the name of some Muslim terrorists, we don’t care that he tried some businesses that didn’t work out.
This country is weak, bankrupt, our enemies are making fun of us, we are being invaded by illegals, we are becoming a nation of victims, where every Tom, Ricardo and Hasid is a special group with special rights to a point where we don’t even recognize the country we were born and raised in, AND WE JUST WANT IT FIXED. And TRUMP is the only guy who seems to understand what the people want.
We’re sick of politicians, sick of the Democratic and Republican Party. We’re angry about the Iran deal, the budget, treatment of Israel, military weakness, lobbyists, special interests, overpaid politicians with their self serving bills and back room deals, trade deals, loss of jobs, manipulated economic numbers, businesses fleeing, and even the phoney pay for play Clinton Foundation.
Americans are no longer going to be fooled, and the movement is out to change the direction we’re taking. Trump may not be a saint, but he doesn’t have lobbyist money holding him, he doesn’t have political correctness restraining him, and all you know is that he has been very successful, a good negotiator, he has built a lot of things, he’s flexible, and he’s also not a politician. And he says he’ll fix it. And we believe him because he is too much of an egotist to be proven wrong or looked at and called a liar.
Public service has become elected greed. This may be our only chance to have a non-politician, despite his flaws, try and correct the mess, at least for 4 years. We must take the shot, because the consequences of putting Hillary Clinton in office are frightening. There is a tidal wave happening, and its going to overcome much of what’s happened to this country.”
pg,
I think you are correct. Instead of forming a new party we are taking it back from the Globalist RINOs
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Jeff says: “Could the “locker room” tape be some sort of odd payback for Trump knocking Jeb out of the race?”
Oh yes. Remember Billy is a Bush cousin and Trump had ALREADY stated in 2011 he might run if things got too bad. Also at that time polls showed he was more popular as a candidate than Mittens Romney.
So yeah, this was a set-up by good ole’ Billy. I would not be surprised to find Billy did a whole bunch of warmup and luring before hand hoping to get a juicy tape to save for this election cycle in case Trump decided to run.
Never forget the Bush family are globalists and the real divide is the Globalist Elite vs the nationalist serfs.
Larry Ledwick says “…Millions of trump supporters feel this way about Donald J. Trump….. “
Yes, that is exactly it.
We aren’t looking for a pastor or priest or minister for our local church. We are looking for a General Patton and we don’t care about anything except the fact he can lead us to victory.
And yes I picked Patton, not only because he was one of Trump’s heroes (and he saved the Lippizzaner horses) but because of his character traits.
http://www.inhisgraceinc.com/html/general_patton.html
Patton was NOT a ‘comfortable man’ but his troops would follow him into he!! Patton died at the age of 65 as a result of an auto accident. Some think he was gotten rid of because of the type of man he was.
Yes I have a book titled “Patton’s Principles” written by one of his junior commanders that uses short stories of his experience to illustrate how Patton led his troops and got what he wanted.
He was very mission oriented, all things were subordinate to the commanders intent of the mission.
Patton felt you should tell your people what you wanted them to accomplish then get the hell out of their way and let them find their own way of getting to that objective. I agree I see Trump as being very similar in work style. Results matter, methods — not so much.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/583
I picked these out of the html mess:
Seems the TEA PARTY was where the David Duke KKK attack came from.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/03/02/nuclear-new-ad-previews-general-election-racial-attacks-against-trump-n2127759
Re: Gail Combs says: 9 October 2016 at 1:29 pm
Flight time Naples where special forces were on standby to Benghazi on a routine not hurried flight would be ~ 1 hour 40 minutes. For top cover fighter aircraft around half that.
From all that happened starting in Egypt and the ‘Gaza Convoys’ aka Freedom Flotilla with Obama’s friend Bill Ayres and being set up by Turkey. We see the destabilization of Syria, Gaza, Egypt, Lybia, Algeria and Morocco and attempt to put in place the Muslim Brotherhood with links to Erdogan in Turkey – looking very much like an attempt to return the Ottoman Empire, the old Caliphate under the warm and fuzzy name ‘Arab Spring’. This might be the reason for the rather vacillating support from Turkey for attacks on DA’ESH in the Levant, also trying to setup a Caliphate. They were seen by Obama as the junior league compared to an Istanbul led Caliphate. But it was all falling apart starting with Egypt being a little more secular than Obama and Hillary thought. All of this being fed by the extensive oil fields being found in the eastern Mediterranean hence Russian interest in Cyprus and Syria.
The Great Game continues.
Gail just a reminder we do not know absolutely who leaked these emails or what their agenda is. It is almost certain that some of them are cooked or outright fakes, so double checking on “apparent facts” is in order. I would not be surprised that some of the folks who tried to co-opt the Tea Party for the establishment did such a thing, but this dump needs to be evaluated with caution.
I found this statement on twitter and thought it was worthy of inclusion here:
So far, wikileaks stuff has not shown a lot of hoax content. While caution is important, and vetting a very good thing, there does seem to be an ethos of ‘make it true’ in the folks supplying them with the goods. So less sanguine, but still cautious…
Per parties: They go through cycles of life and death, but slowly… Republicans are up for a renewal, Democrats for a fall; if not this time, after 4 years of Hillary, well, I’ll be surprised if she lasts that long without impeachment…
Larry found some good quotes there!
Larry,
I have rejected some that I have seen that are obviously spam. However TownHall was already persona non grata in my book.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/03/07/insider-reveals-salem-media-was-part-of-the-coordinated-gang-of-eight-manipulation/comment-page-1/
More and more ‘trusted sources’ and people are being exposed as globalist sellouts. I thought I had my eyes open but the depth and breadth of the corruption throughout this country astounds me.
EM again thank you for opening this page.
Larry, an additional note. I very much value your comments and that of the rest of the people here. That is why I selected certain emails and put them here. I trust this group to ‘out’ any hoaxes.
Oh, my lord
Here is a picture to go with the Benghazi info.
@ Gail
Sadly true. About the time I left working for the Office of Emergency Management I had an “accidental” conversation with one of the people I worked with who seemed pretty connected to the political structure. I made a joking comment and he took it seriously and out of context thinking I meant something else. He proceeded to tell me that minor ambassador ships were for sale for about $50,000 and someone he knew was angling to get one.
I took it as “look at me” BS, now I believe he was 100% serious. The reason I left the state was because of how the political types were constantly maneuvering for political advantage rather than to protect the citizens of the state. They would rewrite disaster assessments and issue reports so as not to make the current governor look bad (circa 1987- on). It was appalling and a lot of good people self selected themselves like me to get out because they refused to be associated with what was happening.
The final straw for me was they did a report on how western Colorado communities like Steam Boat Springs and near by Yampa County airport would handle a major jet crash (about the time of the Iowa crash of United flight 232) and shortly after the flight 1713 crash at Denver’s Stapleton airport (November 15, 1987).
The report as written was that those small western slope communities would be totally over loaded as a result of the mass casualty incidents. (even though the emergency managers over there were working hard to stock pile resources. One small community was making lots of spare back boards out of plywood and stashing them for just such an event.)
It was decided that it was embarrassing to admit that obvious truth so the report was re-written by officials out side our office to say it would be a challenge but they could handle it.
At that time those small airports were handling 727-200s, MD-80, 737-200, 757-200, 767-200 and 737-700 class aircraft. With passenger seating for 130-150 persons. In the winter time (ski season) road conditions could make it exceedingly difficult to back stop them with out of the area resources, but that did not matter — we can’t embarrass the local political officials who said it would not be a problem.
That was when my eyes first opened up to how much many senior political types suck and the stupid games they would play and screw their constituents.
Frank Zappa; I Am The Slime.
Trump needs to secure the right to use this song.
Play it over adds of Hillary and the Fawning Media talking down to the lowly taxpayer.
For the force out to destroy America are the Progressive Parasites.
Which begs this question, What is “The Public Interest”?
Seems to be an unbridgable gulf between those who pay and those who play.
Like here in Canada, the interests of me taxpayer paying in excess of 50% of my income to a parasitic horde of fools and bandits….Are not the same as the guaranteed payroll,best class pensioned “Public Servants” who are bankrupting small business.
Up here my fearless bureaucrats just activated legislation criminalizing being an employer.
Can’t cure stupid.
From Canada
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2016/10/and-the-media-s.html
I already knew both parties were rotten to the core. I don’t see any solutions mentioned. Congress has the power to make laws not the President and history suggests the same bunch will be returned to run it. Neither Trump nor Hillary would be candidates I’d pick. Trump might just shake up the establishment a little bit, so has the edge.
I haven’t heard him articulate any real plans to pull America out of economic stagnation. This would require a change in business culture such that gains from increased productivity get shared with the workers instead of the business owners keeping it all, with the result of wage stagnation for the last twenty years. It’s all very well talking about stopping manufacturing from moving abroad but it is too late. Too much has already done so. Think how little you buy these days that was made in America by an American company.
Hmmmmm very interesting This comment is not showing up in the recent comment list even though it was made 33 minutes ago. Could word press be suppressing it because of the link???
Hmmmm even more interesting, I reloaded the page several times to see if it would pick up the comment, as soon as I posted the above, both it and my comment popped up in recent comments?
WordPress certainly has something goofy going on with the recent comment listing.
Interesting item on how the traditional GOP is back stabbing Trump by fixing the voter registration process so it is ineffective or out right turning away volunteers who support Trump.
Can you say next step is form a new party and leave the old GOP spinning in the wind?
http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/10/09/the-inside-story-of-how-the-gop-sabotaged-trumps-voter-registration-drive/
EM — I think I have a clue about the missing/late updates to comments, it appears word press only updates that list when it has 2 or more updates to add. A single new comment will not be added to that list until a second comment on some topic shows up.
Scott Adams has some cogent thoughts here about reasoning versus persuasion, and Trump (item #12 is interesting in that he’s a “shy Trump supporter” and parking his vote with Johnson:
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/151504993671/why-does-this-happen-on-my-vacation-the-trump
Now we see Sputniknew.com defending the wiki leaks and challenging what they say is a shoddy forgery intended to mislead.
(wilderness of mirrors indeed — just who is playing who, or perhaps everyone is playing everyone)
https://sputniknews.com/politics/20161009/1046160830/hillary-media-slander-fake-wikileaks.html
@Jeff:
OMG, do I love that Scott Adams bit:
I’ve said “Yes, he’s a bull in a china closet… but he’s OUR bull!” Still feel that same…
Go gore them and trample them and “say naughty things” at them if that will help ;-)
@Larry: I’ve seen similar in the biz world (HP among them) where seemingly innocuous errors were introduced into announcements, position papers, strategy statements, and in particular, “internal only” documents to detect if something was leaked, and sometimes, by whom, as multiple versions of the same document would have been released.
Kind of sneaky in my book, but I’m an engineer, not a politician: http://dilbert.com/strip/1994-10-09
@John Robertson:
I’m sorry, but that kind of ‘tease” is just Not Acceptable!
You simply MUST provide some supporting material for such things.
Like a little linky ;-)
/sarc; for the sarc impaired…
Hillary just arrived at the “debate”. CSPAN is covering the warm up… She had a younger lady do the arm around waist as she did arm over shoulder (or vise versa) to go up a dozen? regular steps on an ordinary building entry stairs.
She has some kind of significsnt balance or visual problem to need that…
It was done fast and smoothly, but it WAS done…
Melania and the Trump family look pensive, they know Dad is up for crucifixion. Chelsea and Billy (goat) have their plastic smile game faces on…
I’m not going to watch. I’ll check the after action reports.
Larry Ledwick says:
9 October 2016 at 5:55 pm
Giap also said to the effect: “We lost every battle and won the war. “
Anderson Cooper did a great set up of Trump, then after the response tossed to Hillary for a canned speach.
Well coordinated and planned…
Now into the expected “make it everyone” by dragging in thd race card and PC Standards.
Martha Raddatz now double dips the bad words topic, Trump pivotes it to Billy and words vs Bill’s deeds…
What’s with the psuedo tux pants suit on Hillary? And the Trump applause gets the shutdown from the moderator, but cheers from Hillary gets nothing?
Sure looks like 3 on one to me…
Trump pulled out the special prosecutor gun on her…time for an obama pardon…
Larry Ledwick says:
9 October 2016 at 5:51 pm
The TEA Party was co-opted. It was originally a non-denominational movement against bigger government and higher taxes.
And then for quite some time the “major” TEA organizations took on a heavy SoCon tinge. Social Conservatism is dying in America. Literally. It is an old folks home. The kids are less religious these days but are definitely anti-government. Out of my wallet, out of my bedroom, out of my smoking parlor.
The critical error Social Conservatism made in the 1980s was allying itself with government. The “Moral Majority” was a huge mistake. With government making war heavily on 10% of the population for the last 45 years (it rotates as new generations get to experience it) there is now 58% (and rising) of the population against the government. And against the social conservatives who still support that war.
They defeated themselves. Idiots.
Look at how well the anti-abortion folks have done being independent of government. God help them if the get a Federal law.
If the question is “what to do about xxx” and the answer is “we need a law” you are talking to a socialist.
IMHO Hillary’s answer on the Muslim question shows she is a 100% owned by The House Of Saud and wants the Globalist Agenda… Then we have the double dip on Islam by Raddatz…
Hillary lies like a rug calling her two positions (public vs private) an editorial on Lincoln and Congress yeah. Right. Now turning it to a Putin and Tax returns question? WTF?
She did a poor job trying to get Trump on defense. His response about Honest Abe sank that one…
So far this is my favorite debate.
To paraphrase My Fair Lady ‘She oiled her way across the floor’…
OMG, Raddatz is now debating w/Trump over Syria..
So far she has only once disputed his claims of “she lied”. And that was about her record… He’s getting a huge win on the “She a Liar” argument.
https://news.grabien.com/story.php?id=693
According to the Drudge online poll Trump mopped the floor with Hillary
89.56 Trump
10.44 Hillary
Well this is good for a hearty laugh — I did not realize the significance of Melania’s attire.
Seems she was trolling the media and the Clintons.
http://freebeacon.com/culture/melania-trump-wore-pssy-bow-gucci-top-to-debate/
Trump promised that a top priority of his DoJ was to investigate and jail Clinton for her crimes.
OMG! Expect the Washington Elites and their minions to pull out ALL the stops to smear Trump and stop him.
They will lose. The people are pissed and will no longer stand aside for their “Betters” to run things.
The Beast will upset their cozy world and an investigation into the world of the Clintons will uncover rot everywhere…pg
From twitter (my feeling too)
From twitter:
Frank Luntz Verified account
@FrankLuntz
Focus Group: Who are you willing to vote for?
BEFORE #DEBATE
• Hillary: 8
• Trump: 9
AFTER DEBATE
• Hillary: 4
• Trump: 18
Oh boy this is about to get really interesting, CNN got caught by a sloppy edit coaching their focus (fake) focus group with talking points.
From twitter:
Bill Mitchell @mitchellvii 2 minutes ago
Bill Mitchell Retweeted Political Polls
Folks, THIS is the poll that matters. These are the ones undecided in the middle. +15 Trump. Wow.
Bill Mitchell added,
Political Polls
@PpollingNumbers
YouGov Poll
Debate Winer Among Independents:
Trump 51 (+15)
Clinton 36
https://t.co/KFnTgmyx69 <- – – upload link for the poll
Click to access Post%20Debate%20Poll%20-%20Tables.pdf
The look you get when you realize they just seated your rape victims in the front row…..
And Melania adds the final touch by wearing a Gucci ‘Pussy-bow’ shirt.
…………………
After this expect the Globalists to get out their knives.
I think Alex Jones is correct and they will haul out the 3 nameless adult women who were supposedly raped by Trump as teeny boppers on Jeffrey Epstein’s ‘Lolita Express’ express. (Set-up by a NY Judge and her Reporter brother)
They already tried it once and it flopped because the address was a vacant house.
They pulled this on Herman Cain successfully the last time so there is every reason to expect them to use the same tactic quite close to the election so there is no time for recovery. Then they can rig the election even if Trump does win.
Here is Alex Jones on the Pedophile setup to be launched against Trump in a day or two,
The Federal Judge was appointed by Obama and recommended by the NY senator who took over from Clinton. GEE, no conflict of interest there.
The video is over 6 hours. This segment is at ~40 mins 30 sec and only about 5 mins long (Alex drives me nuts so I won’t inflect him on you for longer than that.) I just want to help spike the guns of these syphilitic sons of she camels.
Coming in after the fact, a lot of information to digest. But what is most puzzling is the CNN setup posted by Larry. There is no law that says you have to do focus groups. It is actually to find out what had impact or not, and then to direct your campaign accordingly. It is doing the work of the campaigns. But when it is staged, that tells you nothing! It becomes your own echo chamber and does not resonate with anyone else.
At least that is my take. What could possibly be the reason for it? I do not doubt it happens. But I fail to see the value in it. Indeed, it can only hurt in the long run if the “resonation” is only in your own head.
@ philjourdan
I believe they do it to falsely create the impression that what they want to happen is in fact true or to sell a meme to plant suggestions of talking points. People are much more likely to buy an idea if they think it originated with some average citizen than to be blatantly stated by some talking head.
Much easier to sway people to do something if they believe they are “joining the crowd” by doing it. It is part of the whole false “everybody thinks she won” sales job they create by intentionally skewing the polls to show a response that is often directly opposed to the true facts on the ground.
It is sort of like the situation where they drag you into the sales office after you say you want to buy a car and during the time you are negotiating a price and options you want, the sales manager sticks his head in the door and asks the salesman if he has closed the deal because he has another interested person on the line looking for the same car. Then it becomes well you better buy now or I will have to sell to this other guy – – do you want it?
Larry, What you are saying is that they are doing it for themselves. Those opposed to Trump are already going to glom onto any talking points, regardless of source. And the rest of the nation ignores them. So the MSM has become merely an egotistical echo chamber. They think they are relevant despite the polls showing that most of America does not give a whit about them and do not trust them as far as they can throw them.
What this episode does do is expose the scam for what it is. Again, the ones opposed to Trump (and I am intentionally not saying liberals as I include the establishment of both parties in this) are going to deny it. Some others will ignore it. And the rest will just affirm that is what they knew all along.
As an avid photographer I have noticed something about the recent discussion and comments asserting that Trump was “looming” over Hillary during the debates. First of all she is only 5′ 4″, Donald Trump is 6′ 2″, in size comparison there is now way to avoid that perception if the camera angle is correct.
Now look at the two photos in this article:
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/body-language-expert-says-trumps-lurking-a-pre-assault-indicator-i-was-really-getting-nervous/
It was a set up shot, she intentionally walked over onto his side of the seating in the round stage so she was directly between him and the camera. From there perspective effects of the straight on shot with a long lens makes it look like he is only 3 feet behind her but it is really that “she” has positioned herself 5 ft in front of him in “his debate space” for a perfect down the throat shot from the closeup camera on that side of the stage.
I would bet a lot of money that she was coached to do that during debate prep, I don’t recall Trump invading her debate space on her side of the stage in a similar manner. This setup was very reminiscent of Al Gores attempt to intimidate George Bush by crowding him during a debate.
I linked to the Alex Jones marathon above and I have been slogging my way through it looking for any interesting bits. (See what I do for you guys? — At least Alex Jones and Roger Stone and Stefan Molyneux are of the Libertarian bent and can not stand the Clinton or the Bush tribe.)
There is a Roger Stone interview between 3 hours 40min and 4 hours 12 min. Stone wrote the book The Clintons’ War on Women along with Robert Morrow so he has a lot of in-depth knowledge on Epstein and Epstein’s plane the “Lolita Express” He has actually looked at the passenger lists and Bill Clinton was on the plane numerous times but there is no listing for Trump.
Epstein did try to snag Trump for a party but once he saw what was going on he retreated quickly (also discussed) The real crux of the matter is the planned bogus Pedophile Ambush based on Jane Does filing 22 years after the fact and an Obama appointed New York Judge.
The key is the Statute of Limitations.
link
That means they have to go for the Federal Sex crimes — link like pornography, slavery, kidnapping and going across state lines.
Cornell is the best place for the specifics of laws.
Age matters over 12 years and over 16 years for minors.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2241
Statute of Limitations:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3283
Looks like age 25 is max:
http://uscode.house.gov/statviewer.htm?volume=108&page=2149
But that is contradicted by this:
So this will set Trump up for a real mess. And all that will matter is the allegations and the MSM shouting 24/7 for him to be immediately jailed with no time for defence.
No wonder they have been looking so hard for a judge that could be bought!
One of Alex Jones reporters who has looked at law cases several times said the paperwork, which was shown with ‘Jane Doe’ was really really weird looking.
A bit on polls.
I just got a call from a polling company (Mcquire) The guy asked me three questions
registered as, voting for, then age. At that point he quit but the phone did not hang up and I could hear the rest of the call center. The other callers got LOTS more questions!!!
A quick search showed:
Looks like they were not interested in a FEMALE Trump supporter.
Interesting item on the media
http://truthfeed.com/video-bill-oreilly-goes-on-the-record-3-media-organizations-have-ordered-their-people-to-destroy-trump/28765/
There is only one problem communicating with the modern electorate —
http://assets.amuniversal.com/616e8de0c25d01315a04005056a9545d
Trump event in PA today, Jeff sessions starts at 39 minutes, Rudy Giuliani about 45
http://patch.com/pennsylvania/doylestown/watch-live-stream-donald-trump-rallies-ambridge-wilkes-barre-pennsylvania
Funny Trump spot
Bet this is not covered on CNN
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/10/10000-voters-pennsylvania-trump-rally-chant-cnn-sucks/
That was a funny spot!
BTW, the BBC and DW news have as much as said Hillary has already won and Trump is over… DW claiming that The Republicans have thrown in the towel as the house speaker Ryan gives up on him… DW calling the special prosecutor line ‘like a 3rd world dictator’ putting the competition in prison, so unclear on our legal checks and balances.
A Christian news show on TCT were ok with Trump due to abortion and the Supremes…
RT more neutral, but worried Hillary is a war monger (likey accurate…)
Just quite fun looking at the EU Globalists wearing their bias on their sleves.
Yes I was noticing that same thing on twitter, UK and DW media are totally buying into Hillary is the only acceptable candidate and are regurgitating the hard left talking points.
The results right after the debate were in the 90% range for trump it only dropped to 68% after the HRC supporters started trolling the poll. But there is a clear bias in the international press for HRC.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/719631/Barack-Obama-Donald-Trump-sexism-scandal
Oh Dear… Obama using the P-word
The debate in three pictures
…………………………..
Seems Twitter has ALREADY removed this Hillary-ous 3 picture sequence.
Luckily it has been saved in this comment HERE
Ridicule is man’s most dangerous weapon.
Trump and kid at PA rally
More satire. (Dan Rather was a KGB operative)
I’m sorry to report this but that big black fly met an untimely demise after the debate.
Hillary gives new meaning to skeletons in the closet(s).
(People are really having fun with that fly.)
Bill Ivey of Global Cultural Strategies
“…Cultural Policy shapes and directs the Expressive Life of societies through the framework of law, regulation, and customary practice that governs the creation, distribution, consumption, and preservation of knowledge, information, and art.
All societies have cultural policy.
The United States has neither a cultural ministry nor department of cultural affairs…..”
BIO
Bill Ivey to John Podesta
If there was any doubt that facebook was helping elect Hillary that doubt is put to bed.
I added notes on who is who.
WIKI
WIKI
Excellent Analysis of Agenda Polling to brain wash the public.
Media Polling Fully Exposed – About That NBC/WSJ Clinton +11 Point Poll….
The Real Battle, is The Battle For Your Mind
It shows the usual vetted and tested psy-op phrase repeated by all the media “Clinton Double-digit lead” (After the RNC nomination the word was DANGEROUS)
Never forget that the media’s job is to give PLAUSIBILITY to the election steal. If the ACTUAL polls, showing Trump with the Double-digit lead, were published, then there would be a revolt the day after the rigged election putting Hillary in the White House.
We even say the Drudge report at 5:00 am after the debate with 90% thinking Trump won the debate. Most of the rest of the polls showed Trump at ~70% or better even the left leaning rags had Trump slightly ahead. But as soon as the work day hit the Hillary count really started spinning as the Clintonbots hit all the polls including Drudge.
I think Matt is looking into the situation.
This is really an all out war and the goal is the completed destruction of the US Constitution and the USA as a world leader and independent country.
Lots of interesting snips here:
Matt Forney New Leaked John Podesta Emails Show Hillary’s Relationship with ISIS-Supporting Saudis
Unfortunately he does not have a link to the source email so you have to stuff a phrase into the wikileaks search engine
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/
Here is one about Chelsea Clinton being a spoiled rotten brat.
Doug is Doug Band “Teneo is an international advisory firm and investment banking organization.” (Also WIKI)
@Gail – Re: Hillary Fly – I loved the comment and picture showing Putin ordering the hit. LOL
Illegal to have coordination between super PAC (Priorities USA) and candidates (Clinton).
John Podesta is Hillary’s Campaign manager
Fwd: Attorney-Client Communication
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2098
Jonathan Berkon, Coie LLP
“Jonathan S. Berkon
Jonathan Berkon focuses his practice on political law, including federal and state campaign finance law and ethics and gift regulations at the federal, state and local levels. He also advises investment advisers, political action committees (PACs) and candidates on the new Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) pay-to-play rule; counsels Internet and technology companies on political advertising sales; and, in the wake of Citizens United, assists nonprofits and 527 organizations that wish to participate in the political process.”
So they darn well KNEW the communication was ILLEGAL.
Charles Baker is the contact at the Super PAC/.
Meet the Democratic heavy-hitters at Priorities USA
Hillary is taking money from Saudi Arabia and KNOWS they support ISIS!
(Larry should read this whole email. It is long and I do not have the knowledge to understand what is actually being said about the military aspects.)
If the USA had provided the support asked for by Stevens this would have happened:
Gail,
At one time I’d have thought this “over the top” ideation. Now, thanks to Facts In Evidence, it seems a terse statement of the Soros driven Globalist Agenda…
“This is really an all out war and the goal is the completed destruction of the US Constitution and the USA as a world leader and independent country.”
From the “commissions” hiding in plain sight in the “Trade Deals” who’s purpose is to remove sovereign control from nations, to the “U.N. Agreements” that do the same, to the abuse of Executive Power creating a defacto dictator and the corruption of ever agency (now including the FBI and Dept. Of Justice) to assure actions have no risk of legal recourse and so much more. (Not to mention siphoning $Billions into NGOs and using parasitized Agencies and NGOs for political goals, and faux ‘outrage’ in the streets, end… quite a machine. Even the 4th Estate now more active partisan than check nor balance.)
All directed at one end: The End Of Nations.
It really is pretty stark and fairly clear now. Sigh.
(And I had thought those recorded talks / meetings where international political ‘leaders’ were musing about the end of the Westphalian State were just idle muses by overly educated dandies reaching for dinner conversation to impress… )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westphalian_sovereignty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_of_Westphalia
More on the Doug Brand/Clintons stuff
Matt Forney is doing Trump no favors because he is taking a lot of stuff out of context and misinterpreting stuff. I think that is why he does not link back to the primary source. For example he took the first part of the above and said it was WJC not Chelsea.
Thank you so much Mr Smith for this thread! Thanks also to Larry Ledwick and Gail Combs for their highly informed comments! Trump’s special prosecutor remark for Hittlery rang like a wake up bell for many voters. May she and the obummer ‘hope’ to be treated as nicely and gently as was John Christopher “Chris” Stevens (April 18, 1960 – September 11, 2012) during his assassination. They both seem to be willingly knowledgeable and complicit in such atrocity!!
E.M.Smith says: 11 October 2016 at 3:55 pm
“Gail, At one time I’d have thought this “over the top” ideation. Now, thanks to Facts In Evidence, it seems a terse statement of the Soros driven Globalist Agenda…”
You gots to be peddling faster, if you are going to catch up!
“All directed at one end: The End Of Nations. It really is pretty stark and fairly clear now. Sigh.”
Please try for some hope!! The combined armed forces of the US military are highly trained and quite intelligent!! They would not consider conflict against the combined armed forces of the US population. They tried that once long ago, and we all have been suffering ever since! Strong memories have been passed on, not forgotten!
Will Janoschka,
We didn’t say that Hillary Clinton, George Soros, David Rockefeller and their buddies didn’t have several screws loose.
Do not forget these are the SAME people who think there are WAY too many people on the earth. The USA has already used ‘dirty bombs’ in the middle east.
These are the SAME people who would not harden the US electric Grid against an EMP attack. (The bill failed) But have zero problem tossing gobs of money at useless Windmills and Solar panels.
Wiping out the electrical grid (plus sensitive electronics) will KILL 90% of the US Population according to this report.
TRUST these people??? NO WAY IN HADES!
Clinton has already said she views 3/4 of the US population as a Bucket of Losers (Bernies people) or an Irredeemable Basket of Deplorables, (Trump’s people)
@Gail
Podesta actually gives pretty good advice there but it is time dependent and the window for that set of actions has long closed. As he noted and is shown in the movie 13 hours when they could not get clearance to provide kinetic (gun ships troops etc.) a request for an over flight by fighter jets was made to “put the fear of god” into the attackers since they would have no way of knowing if these were aircraft armed and authorize hot on weapons or just observation. At the right time something as simple as a pair of F-16’s or F-18’s doing a low altitude pass on full burner sends a pretty strong message but it only lasts for a limited time. Same goes for out actions agains ISIL, if in the early days before they over ran major Iraq units and were moving in the open in large convoys of technicals (ie armed pickup trucks) a single B-52 strike could have taken out hundreds of them and sent a very strong message of intent of the U.S. to deal with the situation.
Bruce Lee in his writing about the art of combat talked about “a hit in time” meaning a fast sharp strike at just the right moment to disrupt an attack (like a sharp jab to the nose) as the opponent steps in to try to over whelm you with a strong attack. The hit in time in and of itself is not strong or powerful enough to cause much damage but it can completely change the psychology of the contest and disrupt timing giving you an opportunity to do something else.
As I understand it to wash our hands of direct action we have sold billions of dollars of weapons to the Sunni (Salafi) Saudies and they in turn are shipping them into Syria. Given their political opposition to Iran, they are as often used against Iran forces opposed to the ISIL, and Syrian Rebel units as they are directly against ISIL. As a result you have a mishmash of small factions often with conflicted loyalties fighting for multiple different objectives. The result is basically protracted civil war. Meanwhile Russia in order to protect its warm water Mediterranean sea port and to re-establish its cold war period influence in the middle east has gone all in to protect Assad and his granting of base rights to them. It appears that they have decided that a controllable Turkish lead caliphate is preferable to an uncontrollable caliphate under ISIL control. By giving Erdogan a green light to serve his islamic interests and counter balance the ISIS influence in the region and a finger in the Iranian pie (nuclear reactor construction, technical assistance and general military coordination) it appears that they are willing to sacrifice that whole region from Syria, northern Iraq, and Iran to a bloody house cleaning to set up Erdogan as the defacto head of the new radical islam and future legitimate caliphate (ie re-creating the Ottoman empire – or at least the northern half of it from circa 1914)
http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/media/photo/map-ottoman-empire-1914
That would not be totally irrational since the ottoman empire was stable for a long time but being an historical enemy of Russia they would rather have Turkey (on their side and at least influenced by them ) rather than NATO.
I think Obama and HRC basically squandered a very small window for action and have given away the store in that part of the world. They basically burned down 60 year or so of efforts to establish modern reasonably secular democracies in the middle east. It will take a generation to fix this (if it even can be fixed). Basically we are now paying the price for arbitrary borders setup by the British after WWI when the new modern middle east countries were created out of the old Ottoman Empire.
Sorry this is total BS
There is a very good tactical reason for using depleted uranium penetrator ammunition and it has nothing to do with some evil plan. It is the application of very simple physics and ballistics principles.
The ability of an anti tank munition to penetrate armor is directly related to the core material of the round. For a kinetic penetrator you need a long dense hard material to have good enough penetration to get to the interior of the tank. Depleted Uranium happens to have the characteristics to do this (plus a couple other weapons effects) and it is cheap (we have a lot of it as a result of nuclear weapons and nuclear fuel production.
Unlike soft lead, depleted uranium is about as hard as mild steel, yet denser than lead (ie an ideal penetrator material on those grounds alone). It also has a self sharpening effect where on impact instead of smashing and expanding like lead, it breaks off pieces near the edge of the penetrator rod leaving a sharp point even after initial impact. It is also a pyrophoric metal, meaning that when finely powdered and heated is easily self ignites on ballistic impact forming a hot incendiary fire ball at the point of impact. It burns very hot like magnesium but also has the other useful characteristics that make it ideal for an armor penetrating round.
They did not use depleted uranium because they were evil they used it because it was the absolutely best penetrator material available at the lowest possible cost. (they use tungsten rod penetrators in tank rounds but it is more expensive and does not provide the incendiary effects of depleted uranium, but the guns (being larger) have enough energy to drive it completely through the tank armor, where the smaller guns used in the A-10 needed the added terminal effects of the uranium and needed to be cheap since the shoot up thousands of rounds in a few seconds.
When those rounds were designed they were looking for a way to stop massed Russian armor attacks considerations like a little natural uranium returned to the earth were it came from was not that big a deal, and they certainly were not worried about the late health effects on the tank crews due to the use of this material.
Will Janoschka,
“We didn’t say that Hillary Clinton, George Soros, David Rockefeller and their buddies didn’t have several screws loose. Do not forget these are the SAME people who think there are WAY too many people on the earth. The USA has already used ‘dirty bombs’ in the middle east.”
Ok Gail! You continue to spout political fantasy with absolutely no evidence of some physical ‘is’! Only political garbage! Please propose anything that may be technically verified as correct!
“Sorry this is total BS”
So is most of the the scary shite about EMP.
The Soviets exploded the Tsar Bomba 50 megaton test on October 30, 1961 at a height of around four kilometres and caused next to zero disruption of electronic devices.
Anyone worried about EMP needs to consider the inverse square law.
As for DU, I saw a “Liberal” theory that depleted uranium bombs had been used to bring down the Twin Towers, their theory being that depleting it took all the radioactivity out, so when the bombs detonated, they left no radioactive fingerprint.
Try explaining to them that it is less radioactive than cigarette ash, and that is also used for radiation shielding for isotope containers and as ballast for aircraft.
More on Hillary and enabling rapists (Useful to send to women who are stupid enough to believe her.)
Another goodie showing Clinton Lies using clips of what she actually said over time.
It goes real well with that e-mail saying she has a public and a private policy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUBE4YlTXvE
Gail Combs says: 11 October 2016 at 11:17 pm
“More on Hillary and enabling rapists (Useful to send to women who are stupid enough to believe her.)”
Gail, Here on Sir Smith’s technical blog, we try to avoid the total political Bull Shit! Why o why do you insist on re-introducing such political Bull Shit? :-)
EMP output is not highly correlated with total energy yield of the blast, it is the prompt gamma output of the device that determines the EMP effect (along with proper altitude of burst to take advantage of asymmetrical distribution of electric charge as that gamma radiation ionizes the atmosphere near the burst point.
A height of 4 km is not high enough to produce significant EMP effects, it has to be detonated above about 100km for the ideal necessary unsymmetrical distribution of charge to create EMP.
There is local EMP from any nuclear burst but at lower altitudes it is highly localized and totally overwhelmed by blast and thermal effects. From intermediate altitudes 20 km+ it is somewhat localized due to the short horizon distance illuminated by the EMP.
As far as legitimate EMP tests the Soviet Union has a lot more live test data than we do because their nuclear tests were conducted over land. In some of their tests the had extraordinary damage from the tests. Burned down a power plant, caused surges in cables buried about a meter below the ground surface etc. With modern enhanced EMP designs (so called super EMP weapons the published fears are very real and appropriate)
http://www.futurescience.com/emp/test184.html
Note I was trained by FEMA to inspect Emergency Operations Centers and other installations for proper EMP protection (although the program was canceled when they realized they had a huge liability exposure for non-engineers giving recommendations on power and broadcast installations)
Thanks Larry, That is why I asked you to look at it. Military is NOT something I have expertise in.
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Will Janoschka,
It is pretty obvious that the Clintons could care less about people. Podesta : Hillary Hates Americans
For evidence, outside the emails, all you have to do is look at what they did to Haiti.
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Also Check out:
Overpopulation: The Fallacy Behind The Fallacy Of Global Warming by Dr Tim Ball @ WUWT
The Club of Rome 1972 book The Limits to Growth
The Limits to Growth • Club of Rome
Between 1969 and 1974 the world was having a grain crisis as documented in the 1974 CIA REPORT: A study of Climatological Reseach as it Pertains to Intelligence Problems
This I think is what kicked off the concern about too many people among the elite.
John Holdren, Obama’s Science Czar, says: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet
Book he authored in 1977 advocates for extreme totalitarian measures to control the population
And Holdren has never changed his stance.
Then there is Pascal Lamy:
Whither Globalization?
You have to put together the bits and pieces, I really wish I had captured the quote from Carol Quigley that made it very very clear they think of us as ranchers think of livestock and have ZERO problems “culling the herd”
If you do not believe this can happen I suggest you read: Democide, Death by Government the millions and millions of innocent people slaughtered by their own government
So yeah, I have zero problem believing that Hillary Clinton would get us into a really nasty war, probably with nukes. And I think George Soros and David Rockefeller are as sociopathic as she is.
Larry Ledwick says: 11 October 2016 at 11:52 pm
“Note I was trained by FEMA to inspect Emergency Operations Centers and other installations for proper EMP protection (although the program was canceled when they realized they had a huge liability exposure for non-engineers giving recommendations on power and broadcast installations)”
So Larry Ledwick, you admit that you are but a trained FEMA idiot, That claims some actual physical understanding/ knowledge of anything! Larry I understand some of your writings! very good very clear! I wish you all the best in your efforts!
Depleted Uranium is, nonetheless, Uranium, albeit not quite so radioactive.
The areas over and in which it has been dispersed are barren, as if they had been covered with salt. Regardless of the density or the effectiveness of DU as munition, I don’t think it is justified,
no matter who the foe.
Much like many a malapropism cannot be unsaid; DU cannot be made neutral. Much as I hate the “bad guys”, I cannot justify the good guys and OUR progeny having to pay for it, no matter what the way, shape, or form is.
Jeff says: 12 October 2016 at 12:38 am
“Depleted Uranium is, nonetheless, Uranium, albeit not quite so radioactive.”
And just who is Jeff? Depleted U is more inert than depleted B,C, D, or F!
“The areas over and in which it has been dispersed are barren, as if they had been covered with salt. Regardless of the density or the effectiveness of DU as munition, I don’t think it is justified, no matter who the foe. Much like many a malapropism cannot be unsaid; DU cannot be made neutral. Much as I hate the “bad guys”, I cannot justify the good guys and OUR progeny having to pay for it, no matter what the way, shape, or form is.”
SO WHAT {insult deleted -Mod}?
I only brought up the use of the Depleted Uranium to show they are not afraid to use it.
If you look at the Chernobyl Accident – World Nuclear Association
And at Hiroshima and Nagasaki since 1945 – World Nuclear Association
And you are looking long term and don’t care about people, then yes I could see, for example China getting North Korea to attack or Russia getting Iran to attack or Hillary being idiotic enough to attack Russia.
Don’t forget that Bill Clinton gave our nuclear weapons technology to China while crippling the USA so we are now not much better than a paper tiger. Chasing the Dragon: Clinton’s China Policy. Obama finished the job by purging the high command of decent officers and leaving the a$$ kissers.
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And yeah, I should have checked The World Nuclear Org on Depleted Uranium.
http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fuel-cycle/uranium-resources/uranium-and-depleted-uranium.aspx
Call me an idiot?
Get lost, troll.
Depleted Uranium (please, learn how to spell) is INDEED a problem.
I have SEVEN decades on this depraved earth, including FOUR of deep-level research and systems engineering and operating systems DEVELOPMENT.
I also live not far from where this radiation spews. And my progeny are at risk from it.
Please choose your words wisely, as some day you may have to eat them.
Gail Combs says: 12 October 2016 at 1:28 am
“I only brought up the use of the Depleted Uranium to show they are not afraid to use it.”
Gail, Please use Mr. Smith’s blog for whatever you wish! Please please do not involve the careful technical details of Mr. Smith’s blog in your attack on the “WITCH”! I support your attack! but both I and E M wish to retain some personal dignity, and some level of personal integrity! Thank you very much!
[REPLY: Please do not speak for me nor invoke my name for your positions. The only person who can speak for me IS me. -E.M.Smith]
Jeff says: 12 October 2016 at 1:55 am
Call me an idiot? Get lost, troll.
Depleted Uranium (please, learn how to spell) is INDEED a problem.
“I have SEVEN decades on this depraved earth, including FOUR of deep-level research and systems engineering and operating systems DEVELOPMENT.”
So now You claim to be a near 80 year old idiot that has never accomplished anything! Just what have you accomplished that is of any use to anyone?
“I also live not far from where this radiation spews. And my progeny are at risk from it.”
Just where does such ‘radiation’ spew? Your progeny likely dispatch quickly from your local if they have any intelligence whatsoever!
I’ve been busy today shopping for assisted living for my 94-years-old mother, but am I missing something here? I haven’t been called an “Idiot” yet today. Oh well… the day isn’t over.
H.R. says: 12 October 2016 at 2:34 am
“I’ve been busy today shopping for assisted living for my 94-years-old mother, but am I missing something here? I haven’t been called an “Idiot” yet today. Oh well… the day isn’t over.”
Likely trying to get along trying! Most all do that. It takes a special politician to become an “idiot”!
W.J. – oblique commentary on site policy by me. That’s all.
The makings of a land slide
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/10/11/trumpocrats-jaw-dropping-numbers-of-democrats-supporting-donald-trump/
H.R. says: 12 October 2016 at 3:10 am
“W.J. – oblique commentary on site policy by me. That’s all.”
HOKAY! Here try to do conjugate vector mathematics for understanding by anyone! GRINN!
Trump-o-crat video
Surge in the Alt-right and the changing face of politics as the right uses the tactics of the left to attack the left — or “Two can play this game bud!”
http://www.montanakaimin.com/features/the-year-of-the-deplorable/article_e7018aac-8e5a-11e6-8f42-5fb286c18a9e.html
@Will Janoschka: Turing test := FAIL.
Try replying to what I wrote, aber ich glaube dass sie haben gar keine Ahnung…
DU has been spread, either intentionally or not, throughout Afghanistan and the areas surrounding
Iraq for a couple of decades now. I have some former renters suffering from the after-effects of this, and I fear that the spew (look it up, if you don’t understand what that word means) is somewhat less than harmless.
You have called me and a few others on this site “Idiot”, yet you have shown yourself to be somewhat less than polite. What is your problem? 25 words or less. Be specific, and give examples…
Jeff says: 12 October 2016 at 3:44 am
@Will Janoschka: Turing test := FAIL.
Try replying to what I wrote, aber ich glaube dass sie haben gar keine Ahnung…
“DU has been spread, either intentionally or not, throughout Afghanistan and the areas surrounding Iraq for a couple of decades now. I have some former renters suffering from the after-effects of this, and I fear that the spew (look it up, if you don’t understand what that word means) is somewhat less than harmless.”
Your renters are in Afghanistan or Iraq , Please tell me more {insult deleted}!
Larry,
Pepe and the ‘Alt-right” was a joke played on a reporter by a couple of young guys. (I have the links on the other computer.) Of course at this point it could have taken on a life of its own. I would not be surprised. The irresistible urge to kick a smug, self-righteous social justice warrior in the rear must be breaking out on campuses all over and Pepe is just the one to do it. After all he has those nice long powerful legs.
https://i.reddituploads.com/3b044de4530f48dc91b386cafb1844f3?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=dece6011834f6a93dc8d3833fa214e63
From reddit with the last comment:
“On second thought, the white-guilt card is not merely worn out; it has been removed from the deck.”
And that is what has Hillary and the DNC stumped.
Seems, I an not the only one seeing a nuclear war possibility. Tony Heller just posted this email showing Top Hillary/Obama Advisor Says Obama’s Iran Deal Will Lead To Nuclear War
Here is a guy, asking the Clinton campaign for dirt on Trump…
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1343
This is from brentbbi at Huff & Puff
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/brent-budowsky
@will – obviously this article is ABOUT politics and Hillary. You might try reading it.
@Will Janoschka: Yes, they were Desert Storm. Senior Military. And the house I rented to them (here in GERMANY) stayed empty quite a lot when they were deployed, then they returned to the USA when done. In this case you don’t know just how much you don’t know.
Better get some help about those Ad Homs. You have an anger issue.
A little debunking by bellingcat of the meme that was going around that Trump was quoting Sputnik news (ie his Russian information source) on the Benghazi controversy.
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/americas/2016/10/12/russia-not-behind-donald-trumps-false-blumenthal-benghazi-claim/
Appears the Trump supporters are melting the phone lines at GOP
From twitter:
Mike Cernovich Verified account
@Cernovich
LIVE on #Periscope: Dear @Reince, the @GOP phone lines aren’t working. Too many calls? 202-863-8500
Meanwhile we have this little item about double standards, where Clinton staffers talk about not getting fired for grabbing a woman’s ass and destroying voter registration forms.
http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/10/12/hidden-cam-clinton-staffer-says-i-could-grab-her-ass-and-not-get-fired/
NBC caught doctoring video for Hillary to cover up health concerns.
And we have Obama himself — be careful of what cat fights you start, they could come back to bite you.
https://news.grabien.com/story-video-2008-campaign-appears-show-obama-flaunting-erection-fe
From twitter
Bill Mitchell @mitchellvii 5 hours ago
Just spoke with my Inside Contact in OH. Trump is GAINING support, NOT LOSING! Folks, this person KNOWS. The media is LYING to you.
Bill Mitchell @mitchellvii 5 hours ago
FL Early Ballot Requests: R+60,000. Early Ballot Returns: R+3000 so far.
https://countyballotfiles.elections.myflorida.com/FVRSCountyBallotReports/AbsenteeEarlyVotingReports/PublicStats
Well this is going to get interesting!
From twitter:
Mike Cernovich @Cernovich 19m19 minutes ago
Holy [Crap!] Podesta’s passwords were cracked, they got into his iPhone and Mac. Another huge leak coming? Stay tuned! #PodestaEmails
@Larry, I suppose the password was KissHRCSring01? Topdawgdemocrat maybe? How about atsedop?
Hillary Clinton’s was easy; chelsea.
Bill Clinton’s was even easier; Cigar.
@Larry – I just saw the same videos (3 in all, grab ass, tear up registrations, and hard on) on another site. I would say that Trump is now getting serious. The MSM will not carry any of them, but Trump can run them himself.
Anyone still wondering why he has not been running ads? He was waiting for Hillary to make them for him!
The problem is the mainstream media still think they are important – they are not!
Alternate media is almost totally usurped them just like it did with the major newspapers. It just took a bit longer to kill the beast in the broadcast media. Trump is running lots of ads, thousands of them produced by users independently at no cost to him, influencing their friends, doing the work of research teams and guerilla media on their own dime and time.
@Larry – Re: the Polls. The polls are not accurate right now because they do not have to be. They are agenda driven. They want to disillusion the Trump supporters and cause them to not show up at the polls. As we get closer to the election, some will get more accurate as they have reputations to uphold. But others, like the NBC/WSJ will continue to try psychological warfare and hope they create the outcome instead of predicting it.
Yep Phil consumer pols are propaganda to drive the agenda not objective information.
If this is true, could be a real problem for HRC
From twitter:
Mike Cernovich Verified account
@Cernovich
I can confirm rotten Hillary’s 33,000 emails have been obtained. Word is it will be a “November surprise.” Wow, something new every day!
And just for a bit of humor as we get flooded with all sorts of odd ball voting maps.
Larry Ledwick says: “….Trump is running lots of ads, thousands of them produced by users independently at no cost to him….”
All Trump did is jump in front of the angry mob. If the media had not been in the tank for the globalists and if the internet had been as pervasive, it could have been Ross Perot.
I have never been interested in politics and I have never donated before but I am this time. And I am not the only one.
Speaking of which, Tony Heller is headed to Washington D.C. this weekend, and will be presenting some material to Trump’s EPA transition head. If you have a few bucks you can spare, toss them at Tony. After his presentation to the Doctors For Disaster Preparedness in Omaha, Nebraska, he got fired for being a climate denier.
Wiki leaks smoking gun for rigging elections in Colorado and other states by Obama?
http://rightwingnews.com/barack-obama/damning-leaks-prove-obama-root-voter-fraud
If true this could be a show stopper for HRC taking a 20 sabbatical from campaigning just before election day? Now just how is that supposed to work? Perhaps push out pre-canned videos or interviews which are already in the can?
http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/hillary-attempts-to-hide-her-health-problems-in-the-final-days-of-the-campaign
Email dump exposes Tim Steyres coordination with John Podesta to use climate as a club to beat the Republicans over the head and to advance other agendas.
http://freebeacon.com/politics/hacked-memo-reveals-steyers-wh-climate-policy-influence/
@Will J.:
Well I’m peddling as fast as I can! ;-)
Just now realizing I have 1/2 hour just to catch up on comments here…
@Gail: DU is not a dirty bomb. I had a Uranium enamel on my front tooth gor 40 years.. and the depleted stuff has had most of the radioactive stuff removed, unlike my tooth…
It may be nasty, but that is chemical not radiation…
BTW IMHO the estimated risks of EMP are highly overrated. People are mighty creative and with comms cut, free of Federal “help”…
@Catweasel666:
For optimal EMP a bomb must be set off in the ionosphere. The Tsar Bomb was way too low. From the ionosphere, line of sight for one covers most of the lower 48, two gives complete coverage (Hawaii and Alaska extra ;-)
That said, yeah, lots of self shielding and short antenna length issues ignored… at least 2 and likely all 4 of my cars will be running post EMP along with my generator and invertors. TV set not so much…
@Will J.:
Please refrain from personal insults. It is against site policy (i.e I don’t like it). ( Calling ‘idiot’ …)
Also note that this isn’t just a tech oriented blog. I have a Politics category for a reason and this is a political thread.
While I am technical and thus this site started as a technical look at Global Warming, at the point where it became clear tech didn’t matter and Global Warming wss a political fabrication, that topic by neccesity became a politicsl one…
Also see my reply here:https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2016/10/08/hillary-wikileaks-trump-issues-collection/#comment-73112
@H.R.:
I suspect it was BOHICA…
@Philjourdan:
Why run ads when he can do tweets and viral vidoes for free while reaching more people? It’s the new media that matters…
Oh, I see Larry pointed out the same thing… and Gail too…
Newest sexual abuse claims against Trump already imploding. It also appears that more is to come.
From twitter:
MicroSpookyLeaks™
@WDFx2EU7
TRUMP RAPE STORY DEBUNKED
.Armrests do not go up in First Class, never did, and armrests didn’t exist until 1980s.
Here is the best summary I have found:
http://archive.is/gy1EQ
In other words it is a political move by a completely corrupt legal system.
As I said above, The Judge was appointed by Obama. If Hillary is brought up on charges by a Trump Admin, Obama’s rear is also implicated because HE was emailing to Hillary’s unsecure server.
Oh and the latest is Glenn Beck: Electing Hillary Clinton ‘Is a Moral, Ethical Choice’
@Larry – And remember – every bear is really a Russian operative.
@Phil:
Except the Panda Bears that are Chineese agents and the Koala Bears that have been recruited by MI6 for intel gathering, I mean, look at those ears!
;-)
@Gail:
Glen Beck is still arround? He thinks Hillary is a moral choice? I guess I’ve not kept up with his divergences as he explored the edges of sanity…
@Larry:
I take it someone claimed something about armrests?
My understanding is that one of the women who were making dubious claims of harassment by Trump was talking about him sitting next to her in first class and he was like an octopus (hands everywhere) and during the story said something about him raising the arm rest. I frankly have not even bothered to read the full complaints because they imploded almost immediately, like – – how often does Donald Trump fly first class? Me thinks he uses his own private plane and has for a very long time.
Oh crap I forgot completely about under cover bears controlled by the FSB we are so totally screwed!
More Podesta emails released!
RELEASE: The Podesta Emails Part 6 (almost 2000 new emails)
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/?q=&mfrom=&mto=&title=¬itle=&date_from=&date_to=&nofrom=¬o=&count=50&sort=6#searchresult
From Twitter:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CupvcOHW8AAjX1v.jpg:large
@Larry:
Well, there went Gail’s weekend…
:-)
Gail Combs says: 11 October 2016 at 7:26 pm
“Will Janoschka, We didn’t say that Hillary Clinton, George Soros, David Rockefeller and their buddies didn’t have several screws loose.”
OK
“The United States and its allies are fully aware that this weaponry violates the Geneva and Hague Conventions and the 1925 Geneva Poison Gas Protocol.6 It meets the definition of WMD in the U.S. Code7 in two out of three categories. And its use violates U.S. military law.8 since the U.S. is a signatory to The Hague and Geneva Conventions”
Gail, you have absolutely no evidence that the DU munitions, used by the US have any harmful nuclear radiative emissions whatsoever!. What you spout id BS. You absorb mere harmful nuclear radiation from one day in the sun than you might by sleeping with one of these for a lifetime. They are not WMD as per Code 7 or US military law.
All those agents are almost more than we can bear :) Not to mention Chicago vs. Green Bay…
That bear map is a nice departure from all the bright red “climate” maps floating about, though
I hope the election map is all (or close to all) red.
Here’s a couple of links, with sublinks. Will, I don’t know what dog you have in this fight, especially since you haven’t provided any links supporting your point of view, but there are folks suffering from this. As are animals and the environment there in general, which wasn’t that good in the first place (OK, since 40-50 years ago).
http://articles.latimes.com/2001/feb/18/opinion/op-26901
http://www.gulfwarvets.com/du.htm
It took quite a while for the truth about agent orange to see the light of day. The scope of this would be far, far greater.
I would appreciate your refraining from calling those who disagree with you “idiiot”, in particular with regard to the fact that you have posted no references. It is most unbecoming of an expert.
The real issue with Depleted Uranium penetrator rounds is not the direct radiation from the rounds, it is the secondary effects of soldiers on the battle field inhaling smoke from burning tanks and armor vehicles struck by those rounds. On impact the DU flashes and burns contaminating surfaces with Uranium Oxide dust, The smoke and flames create an aerosol of the uranium oxide mixed with the already toxic smoke from burning rubber, plastics and fuels. No one cares that that happens to the enemy soldiers you are trying to destroy, but friendly troops quickly move in to mop up such operations and are exposed to that smoke and possible direct contamination to surfaces coated with the residue from that smoke. They then unintentionally contaminate themselves by brushing against surfaces and accidentally transferring that contamination to their mouths by eating or drinking (mouth nozzles for camel back water carriers used in Iraq). Keep in mind that in Iraq there were unintended exposure to old chemical weapons residue from destroyed munitions dumps so the effects may also be due to those secondary exposures not the DU weapons residue.
There is a legitimate secondary contamination control issue that the troops need to be aware of, and was not recognized until recently. Like uranium miners who smoke or eat while contaminated with uranium ore dust, it is mostly a training issue, and the tactical commanders need to be aware of it and not unnecessarily expose troops to burning enemy equipment which was taken out by use of DU weapons systems.
Over time the UOx contamination gets mixed into the soils and is no more dangerous than rock dust form natural sources like granite here in the Rocky Mountain states.
E.M.Smith says: 13 October 2016 at 2:54 am
@Will J.:”
Please refrain from personal insults. It is against site policy (i.e I don’t like it). ( Calling ‘idiot’ …)”
OK! sorry! Is calling “abject stupidity” the main course material for meteorology still OK?
“Also note that this isn’t just a tech oriented blog. I have a Politics category for a reason and this is a political thread.”
I will indeed avoid using your name in vain!! Again sorry!
Also I just noted that the bear map has been manipulated somehow they lost all the bears in Wyoming which Yellow Stone surely has lots of — are these under cover bears the media does not want us to know about ?? (he says with tongue firmly in cheek – /sarc alert for those with no sense of humor)
Jeff says: 13 October 2016 at 5:28 pm
“I would appreciate your refraining from calling those who disagree with you “idiot”, in particular with regard to the fact that you have posted no references. It is most unbecoming of an expert.”
I have never claimed to be expert on anything! Here on chiefio, I will refrain from such word usage as per e. m.: (i.e I don’t like it). However I maintain the right to remain an “equal opportunity bigot”! All who disagree with me remain by my definition “idiots”, independent of race, religion, color, creed, national origin, or sexual preference. Did I miss anyone? Have a nice day!
Larry Ledwick says: 13 October 2016 at 5:51 pm
“Also I just noted that the bear map has been manipulated somehow they lost all the bears in Wyoming which Yellow Stone surely has lots of — are these under cover bears the media does not want us to know about ?”
Wyoming has but 3 electoral college bears! Even if all mistakenly think Hittlerty is more tender eating than the Donald, does it make any difference?
@Gail – thanks for the heads up. I hate his new site because I never know when a new article is posted, but I do like reading his articles, so I chipped in a bit for his trips.
Jack Abramoff goes off on Hillary — he went to jail for 4 years for actions similar to what she has done.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/13/jack-abramoff-goes-off-on-hillary-most-corrupt-person-in-history-of-united-states-to-get-this-close-to-the-presidency/
From twitter:
Mike Cernovich @Cernovich 38 minutes ago
Liberal billionaires fund hoax media. Conservative billionaires don’t fund honest media to counter. They hire cucks. Now you see end result.
I think that pretty well summarizes the issue there is no economic motivation for honest media.
All though that might be finally changing as people cut the cord and stop watching the corrupt media.
@Will J.:
It’s really very very simple (though for some reason, some folks just don’t get it…)
You can THINK any insult you like about anyone at all.
SAYING that insult “to the person” here is forbidden.
Saying ” I think the idea that Hillary slept with Uma is a stupid one” is OK as it is directed to the IDEA not the PERSON.
Saying ” You are stupid because you believe Hillary slept with Uma” is NOT OK as it is directed to the PERSON.
Got it?
Crowd sourcing strikes again — From twitter:
Mike Cernovich Retweeted
WeSearchr @wesearchr 2h2 hours ago
BUSTED: Drunken Child Abuser & Hoaxer #MindyMcGillivray Falsely Claims Trump “Nudged” Her At Never-Happened Concert
http://gotnews.com/busted-drunken-child-abuser-hoaxer-mindymcgillivray-falsely-claims-trump-nudged-never-happened-concert/
@E.M. Et al. – why run ads? Simple, they are effective. But not 3 months out. TV bypasses the MSM and goes directly to the consumer where they live – shows, not news. Trump knows it. Watch him to blanket the airwaves in all 50 the last 2 weeks. And not with “I am running for president”, but with wikileaks of who Hillary is. Trump is not a republican we have been told constantly. And in this area, I am glad he is not.
Funny post — you need to read the whole thing (don’t skim alert)
http://www.chicksontheright.com/you-need-to-read-this-entire-post-from-a-former-trump-supporter/
catweazle666 says: 11 October 2016 at 11:12 pm
(“Sorry this is total BS”) “So is most of the the scary shite about EMP.”
“The Soviets exploded the Tsar Bomba 50 megaton test on October 30, 1961 at a height of around four kilometres and caused next to zero disruption of electronic devices.”
This is correct, however that little puppy”s yield was only half of design, yet damn near broke this Earth into pieces! The clocks changed time by more than a second. Scared the shit out of anyone with some technical understanding! “DON’T DO DAT”
E.M.Smith says: 13 October 2016 at 7:38 pm
@Will J.:”It’s really very very simple (though for some reason, some folks just don’t get it…)
You can THINK any insult you like about anyone at all.
SAYING that insult “to the person” here is forbidden.”
OK! Yes sir, Yes sir! Independent of the number of bags you have FULL!
“Saying ” I think the idea that Hillary slept with Uma is a stupid one” is OK as it is directed to the IDEA not the PERSON”
Ok I understand!.
“Saying ” You are stupid because you believe Hillary slept with Uma” is NOT OK as it is directed to the PERSON.Got it?”
NO! Ideas often appear stupid, as not well thought out! The individual BELIEVING such is what results as individual ==> STUPID! Can you provide your learned opposing opinion? Are folk not responsible for own belief! I still will attempt to only post here as you wish!
And please do not forget the hair Bear Bunch! Hair, Bubi and Square!
@Will haven’t found anything on Tsar Bomba causing a 1-second slowdown of the earth. Closest I found was http://www.tsunami2004.net/tsunami-2004-facts – which is purported to be a 250-megaton equivalent earthquake that displaced the earth by an “inch or more”…
Perhaps there was something else involved in the second slowdown? Even if the earth “paused”, that wouldn’t affect clocks…just astronomers ;)
Regis Llanfar says: 13 October 2016 at 9:08 pm
“@Will haven’t found anything on Tsar Bomba causing a 1-second slowdown of the earth. Closest I found was http://www.tsunami2004.net/tsunami-2004-facts – which is purported to be a 250-megaton equivalent earthquake that displaced the earth by an “inch or more”…”
You likely will find nothing but lotsa folk scraping crap out of their skivvies!
“Perhaps there was something else involved in the second slowdown? Even if the earth “paused”, that wouldn’t affect clocks…just astronomers ;) ”
Much still to be considered between Lorentz scalar invariance and angular vectors used by astronomers! WHAT IS TIME?
Will, this is E.M.’s blog.
In spite of your hubris, if you don’t like it, too bad. He made very clear what his guidelines are.
What is so hard about that?
Looks at some of the writings and articles of Lord Christopher Monckton, especially with regard to argumentation. They are most instructive.
Will,
None of us knows everything.
If someone goofs like I did by quoting a misinfo piece, you correct it with evidence and in most cases, sometimes after a bit of argument, we all arrive closer to the truth or sometimes we agree to disagree.
E.M. has a no ad Hom rule for that reason. Attack the facts and not the person
Do not forget that most of the ‘official’ news stories are Psy-ops and not the truth. For that reason posting an misinfo piece by mistake, allows us to diffuse the psy-ops bomb embedded in the article. (And that article had a doozy.)
Please note as soon as I was corrected WITH factual evidence I quickly adjusted my thinking and appologised for my ignorance.
To get to the point
Ignorance =/= Stupidity
Ignorance can be cured by exposure to facts while stupidity goes to the bone.
Tzar Bomba did not make any measurable change in length of day. That is closely monitored to keep atomic clocks in sync and is mostly due to angular momentum changes of the earth and its atmosphere when the atmosphere expands or contracts due to solar activity, or major earthquakes significantly shift mass (and angular momentum of the earth). If there had been a significant change they would have made time adjustments to UTC get timing back in sync with the atomic clocks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second
From the US Naval Observatory which monitors such things we find:
http://maia.usno.navy.mil/ser7/historic_deltat.data
Tzar bomba set off on 30 October 1961
Length of Day change from 1962.000 to 1961.5000 was 1.15 ms which is well within normal yearly variations. Year TDT-UT1 error LOD error (s) (s) (ms) (ms) 1960.000 33.150 0.003 1.26 0.10 1960.500 33.397 0.003 1.06 0.11 1961.000 33.584 0.003 1.01 0.19 1961.500 33.804 0.003 1.29 0.10 1962.000 33.992 0.001 1.15 0.07 1962.500 34.240 0.001 1.23 0.03 1963.000 34.466 0.001 1.05 0.03 1963.500 34.731 0.001 1.41 0.05 1964.000 35.030 0.001 1.92 0.02The first official leap second adjustment was in 1972 but the irregular rotation of earth was well known in 1961 and they slightly slewed the atomic clocks to keep official time (UTC reference atomic clocks) matched with the natural time set by the rotation of the earth and our length of day.
This speech by Donald Trump pretty well spells out what’s at stake:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/10/13/donald-trump-speech-the-coordinated-clintonian-politics-of-personal-destruction/#more-123105
FWIW, more Arkancide chatter:
https://therealstrategy.com/doctor-removed-clintons-blood-clot-found-dead/
and the “official” story:
http://www.beckersspine.com/spine/item/33653-suicide-likely-cause-of-dr-sandeep-sherlekar-s-death-police-report-shows-6-things-to-know.html
I wonder if Dr. Ben Carson has any opinion about Hillary’s health. Then again,
he’s too much of a professional and a gentleman to proffer an opinion on the issue.
Things are getting to the slapstick comedy stage:
Politico: “Democratic operative David Brock and civil rights lawyer Gloria Allred both say they are …”
WIKI:“Gloria Rachel Allred is an American civil rights lawyer who is noted for taking high-profile cases; she has been particularly involved with cases involving the protection of women’s rights.”
It looks like she is chasing a phantom:
DANG! Can’t find the link. Oh Well
Anon. (or maybe veritis) baited Hillary operatives with the story of juicy Apprentice out takes and got videos of threats and bribes by said operatives in their attempts to get control of the phantom out takes.
……….
Best comment I have read today:
Nick V34 “Choose anyone but Hillary………………………Bill always did.”
That would make a great bumper sticker!
@Gail
Hmmm… I might have time to get a T-shirt made with that line by Nick V34. Excellent!
OOPs, sorry forgot the rest of the quote:
Also there are alleged threats
Sorry Brock that is Hillary and Bill’s MO, Trump is not sneaky. He is an in your face BULL.
In the face of such accusations Trump certainly has the right to counter sue. Especially since a false accusation could cost him not only the presidency but also millions in lost business. The Democrats are used to Republicans cowering and running away when they start the mudslinging. They are not used to an Alpha Male who WILL fight back and has the billions to do so.
From twitter:
Mike Cernovich Retweeted
Baked Alaska™ @bakedalaska 6 minutes ago
Black Support for Trump DOUBLED in last 10 days! (@Rasmussen_Poll)
10/3- 9%
10/6- 12%
10/7- 13%
10/10- 14%
10/11- 19%
10/12- 19%
10/13- 24%
– – – – – – –
Me thinks the boys in the hood don’t give a crap about alleged sex scandals.
Larry Ledwick says: 13 October 2016 at 11:08 pm
“Tzar Bomba did not make any measurable change in length of day. That is closely monitored to keep atomic clocks in sync and is mostly due to angular momentum changes of the earth and its atmosphere when the atmosphere expands or contracts due to solar activity, or major earthquakes significantly shift mass (and angular momentum of the earth). If there had been a significant change they would have made time adjustments to UTC get timing back in sync with the atomic clocks.”https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second”
Again Larry Ledwick,
Please define ‘WHAT IS TIME?” Is that some accumulation of power an integral expressed as ‘energy’ Or is ‘time’ the expression of action within some interval also expressed as ‘energy’?
Earthlings appear so STUPID! Even kittycats get out of the way of something so huge and unexplainable!
You wouldn’t happen to know Oliver? Haven’t read from him in a week…
Regis Llanfar says: 14 October 2016 at 1:05 am
“You wouldn’t happen to know Oliver? Haven’t read from him in a week…”
Do you refer to Oliver K. Manuel? Much to consider there! Not much willing to accept/believe there yet!
According to the new Fox poll, HRC leads Trump by 7% — only problem is the poll is skewed it is a +9 for democrats, so she is probably really losing by 2%.
Full poll numbers skew shows up in percentages of Democrats vs Republicans page 22.
In the real world the numbers are almost identical in the high mid 20% range and independents accounting for most of the rest also in the high mid 20% range. with a small edge to democrats.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2016/10/13/fox-news-poll-october-13-2016/
http://www.gallup.com/poll/188096/democratic-republican-identification-near-historical-lows.aspx
Apparently another Trump accuser outed as not telling the original story (ie lying).
http://gotnews.com/busted-nytimes-trump-accuser-rachelcrooks-lying-according-family-friend/
Now this could get interesting even if this is not true it will spawn a whole lot of teeth gnashing about who is doing what to whom.
http://usdefensewatch.com/2016/10/breaking-wikileaks-exposes-the-assassination-of-scalia-and-it-could-bring-down-the-clintons-and-the-democratic-party/
Side note Podesta is a long time associate of HRC and has known connections to Russia. If wiki is as some alledge a KGB front something that points back to the KGB (or at least appears to) would never have seen the light of day. If Wiki is actually independent of KGB influence this could have all sorts of blow back. This election cycle is starting to resemble a very ugly Fabergé egg.
Thanks for the poll link, Larry. I looked but probably missed how they determined a respondent was a ‘likely voter.’
I suspect that traditional polling methods might not catch the people who normally don’t vote but will vote for Trump this election (e.g. galopingcamel’s comment). Trump has framed his campaign as a ‘movement’ and it may well be. In which case, the polls favoring Hillary are probably way off to the high side. There is no evidence of an enthused, energized mass of Hillary supporters from the lack of yard signs, bumper stickers, and rally attendance although I admit all signs/stickers reports are anecdotal.
That is one of the weaknesses of this polling cycle, is there are a lot of people who have not voted recently so are not on the call lists, but will show up for Trump. A hint of how strong that is can be inferred from his very strong numbers in the primary, plus known democratic cross over and the fact we know phone poll agents are hanging up on folks who say the support trump.
This election cycle is probably not suitable for the old polling models and might give some very out of ordinary results.
Trumps rally crowds compared to HRC imply there a lot of those “Ghost voters” who will come out for him that did not show up for Romney etc.
I take Hillary’s aggressiveness against Trump as an indicator that her internal polls are not looking good so she is going all out to destroy him (his threat to jail her obviously did not help that dynamic any).
Rasmussen poll shows Trump leading after the second debate.
http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/breaking-trump-surges-in-latest-rasmussen-presidential-poll
Trail of Russian money tied to HRC through Podesta?
http://www.wnd.com/2016/10/hillary-campaign-chief-linked-to-money-laundering-in-russia/
From:brentbbiATwebtv.net [Huffington Post reporter]
To: john.podestaATgmail.com
Date: 2016-02-13 22:00
Subject: Scalia Supreme Court seat
I suggest Senator Jack Reed. Nearly perfect liberal, pro-choice,</b. Army Ranger, Harvard Law, highly respected Senator with friends such as McCain, quickly and easily confirmable, short circuits the holy war Republicans will try to wage.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3789
It is interesting that some foreign press is doing stories on mysterious deaths linked to the Clintons.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3836274/How-Bill-Clinton-s-Penthouse-Pet-lover-died-mysterious-house-fire-sister-believes-started-cover-affair-Arkansas-governor.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus
One of the Trump accusers appears to be bogus.
From twitter:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuuSIxYUMAE-ku_.jpg:large
From twitter:
Bill Mitchell @mitchellvii 39m39 minutes ago
Turns out that Leeds “Groping on a Plane” woman has had legal real estate conflicts with Trump in the past.
Wall Street Journal article on Clinton and how the media is covering Trump 24×7 but not mentioning that Clinton has been outed for almost every charge made against her.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-press-buries-hillary-clintons-sins-1476401308?emailToken=JRr8cPh7Z3iQitI9b8wg1FBtdrMFEPTMTE7NLX3Rf0jNsHjcu/PkzKE0gcewp3jqXkd8/JVdszFhGWWI2zI6
Gleaned from Reddit with additions by me — collusion between Hillary Campaign and the US press.
EMAILID 6900 Another gem from journalist Brent Budowsky. A desperate plea to Podesta about Clinton’s money troubles:
“If there is one thing that could well bring down a Hillary Clinton candidacy it is this cycle of money issues about which I am now feeling red alerts, loud bells, warning signals, and red flags and I am now seriously pissed off that there is a real chance that her candidacy and the Democratic Party could be destroyed by these self-created dangers that continue to proliferate the closer she gets to presumably announcing her candidacy. If she is not hearing this from others, please feel free to forward this to her, I will play the bad guy here because I do not want her money and because she needs to hear this from her friends and she will sure as hell be attacked for this by her enemies, and it will be megaphoned throughout the media, and foreign donations and paid speeches and hustling gold mining deals by her brother are entirely legitimate issues that are self-created, and must self-corrected before it is too late….and I do not believe the Clintons fully understand the magnitude and immediacy of the danger in the current political and media climate” https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6900
From:brentbbi@webtv.net
To: john.podesta@gmail.com, roy.spence@gsdm.com
Date: 2016-01-21 20:36
Subject: Hillary almost 100% negative
Almost every message being projected outward from her campaign is negative, and a candidate with high distrust ratings should not be doing this, and my phone has been ringing and my email box has been full with Democrats who like me who support her but who, like me, are appalled and losing confidence.
I have never seen anything like this.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7742
From:brentbbi@webtv.net
To: john.podesta@gmail.com
Date: 2016-01-10 13:17
Subject: Confidential
I had a multi-email exchange with someone in the media this morning—a name you would know—who is telling me that there are people close to the Clintons who says WJC’s sex life could be damaging to her.
Read the rest, it’s fairly long: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2301
Cat fight!!
EMAILID 5518 Jake Tapper (now at CNN) is mad about a fellow liberal smearing him with some lies. He gets pretty mad :”Off the record, Faiz, you should be ashamed for printing something so untrue. And John – is this was thinkprogress is? Print anything, damn the facts?” https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5518
Interesting that these ‘journalists’ need John Podesta to play referee.
Faiz Shakir, was vice-president of the Center for American Progress (CAP) During his college years, Faiz Shakir was a member of the Harvard Islamic Society. Nancy Pelosi hired Think Progress’ Faiz Shakir. He left Think Progress to become Pelosi’s director of new media and senior adviser. and to serve as head of her online operations.
Jeffrey Schneider: “ABC News President James Goldston sent the following note to the news division this morning announcing Jeffrey Schneider will launch his own communications and media relations firm, Schneider Global Strategy, and Julie Townsend will lead communications at ABC News…. Jeffrey Schneider, a key player in our news division over the past 14 years, will be founding his own firm, Schneider Global Strategy, specializing in media relations and crisis management.”
Emily Lenzner: “Emily oversees communications for all divisions of the company, including The Atlantic, National Journal Group, Quartz, Government Executive Media Group, Defense One, and Atlantic Media Strategies. Prior to joining Atlantic Media in 2013, Emily was a managing director for public affairs and political consulting firm SKDKnickerbocker, where she strategized and managed a variety of national media campaigns for various corporations and non-profit organizations. She spent six years as the executive director of communications for ABC News in Washington, managing PR for programs This Week with George Stephanopoulos and Nightline and the network’s political coverage.” [she] Served as number two communications executive and head of media relations for public radio network. During tenure, overhauled and implemented new communications practices for NPR programs and corporate initiatives.”
NYT and Associated Press collusion with Clinton Campaign
From: ntandenATgmail.com [Neera Tanden President and CEO of the Center for American Progress and the Center for American Progress Action Fund — OOPS colluding with a Super PAC???]
To: john podestaATgmail.com, j palmieriAThillaryclinton.com
Date: 2015-07-24 13:49
Subject: NYT [New York Times]
Tide does seem to be shifting a bit on this, great work by the press shop. Cummings is helpful as is AP. I do think that if Hillary doesn’t speak to this today, people will assume she’s guilty though. With normal people, if you are accused of being a criminal, they expect you to deny it pronto.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5502
From: ntandenATgmail.com
To: john podestaATgmail.com
Date: 2015-08-22 11:12
Subject: Emails – my thoughts
I know this email thing isn’t on the level. I’m fully aware of that. But her inability to just do a national interview and communicate genuine feelings of remorse and regret is now, I fear, becoming a character problem (more so than honesty). People hate her arrogant, like her down. It’s a sexist context, but I think it’s the truth. I see no downside in her actually just saying, look, I’m sorry. I think it will take so much air out of this. She always sees herself bending to “their” will when she hands over information, etc. But the way she has to bend here is in the remorse. Not the “if I had to do it all over again, I wouldn’t do it.” A real feeling of – this decision I made created a mess and I’m sorry I did that. No one thinks she doesn’t have the judgment to be president – she’s not reaffirming a negative characteristic in saying sorry. She needs to do that – I see no way of moving on until October otherwise. Anyway, that’s my advice.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6971
At this point I do not think there is any doubt that the American Public is under a Psy-op Attack by our supposed ‘independent’ press.
@Gail – My own definition – Ignorance is the lack of knowledge. Stupidity is the rejection of knowledge.
Attended a great rally here in Ocala on Wednesday! Very impressed with his passion and speaking ability. On Fire!!
Thought he knocked it out of the park at the second debate. Let’s hope the American public can read and understand the import of wikileaks bombshell.
Interesting! Media blackout on black protests against HRC
http://vidmax.com/video/147240-MEDIA-SILENT-As-tens-of-thousands-of-black-people-march-against-Hillary-Clinton-around-the-country
Interesting analysis I found linked to on twitter:
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-48360-post-1417818.html#pid1417818
Pro trump testimonial from former Miss Wisconsin commenting on the man she knows from her personal experience with him.
Hillary admits it is impossible to vet the Syrian refugee flow.
http://counterjihad.com/hillary-clinton-paid-speech-cant-possibly-vet-refugees
Larry says “That is one of the weaknesses of this polling cycle, is there are a lot of people who have not voted recently so are not on the call lists, but will show up for Trump.”
Sundance asked someone to check his numbers on the ‘Monster Vote’ voters that are interested enough that they are going to vote for the first time in years.
Dang, I can not find the URL, oh well I will look later. Here is some other info instead.
The Voting Bloc EVERY Pundit Never Discusses – “The Monster Vote”….
Media Report: 25% of Current Florida Primary Ballots Never Voted Before, EVER…
Trump Shatters All Prior GOP Fundraising Records – 2.1 Million Small Donations in 90 Days…
In the UK the polls have been getting it wrong for the last few years. Brexit included. I wonder if when a poll declared a healthy lead for one side if there is an effect of leading some of those voters to relax and think they don’t need to go out and vote. So a poll which puts Hillary ahead might cause a significant number of her supporters to think they don’t need to vote but it won’t disillusion Trump’s supporters because they are angry and determined to fight for change. Add in a bunch of people who rarely or haven’t voted before and Trump could win.
Yes notice that the lead is always nearly a tie or 1-2%, to avoid that “Let’s not bother to vote” problem.
It is teasing the folks who want to be on the winning side to shift in that direction — it is sort of like push polling trying to drive the public towards the result they want.
Larry Ledwick says:
13 October 2016 at 5:46 pm
That is the first good look at the dangers Of DU munitions I have seen around. I have an addition:
It might be worth noting that Uranium miners got years of exposure. A few days on a battle field might not be significant. And then there is all the other goo in the air.
@Larry Ledwick:
“That is one of the weaknesses of this polling cycle, is there are a lot of people who have not voted recently so are not on the call lists, but will show up for Trump.”
I live in Brevard county (Florida) and picked up my mail in ballot today. I asked the election staff whether they had a voter turnout estimate. The answer blew my mind!
Brevard usually has a high voter turnout but this year more ballots have already been cast than the total for 2014. The current forecast is a 93% turnout compared with 59% in 2014. More people turn out for presidential elections so in 2012 the turnout was 82% or 11% lower than the 2016 forecast.
I think this supports the idea that something is different about this election. Call it the Trump effect……..love him or hate him nobody can accuse him of being boring.
We are being told that the turnout will be low as both candidates have high “Negatives”. Instead we may see the highest turnout (percentagewise) in decades. Dare I hope the surge voters have already voted for Trump?
May I suggest that the learned sages who comment here check how the early voting is going in their county? Larry may be onto something important……….how do you spell tsunami?
I just hope and pray that that high percentage has nothing to do with the Democrats “vote early, vote often” adage… And I hope and pray indeed that it is indicative of a Trump tsunami…
One of the great things about absentee voting is you can vote early and vote often. A small town in Alaska that I was involved with had more absentee ballots come in then all the people that lived in the town.and the voters that lived there voted on election day in person. But there was no voter fraud……………yeah right. How else can you get 140% turnout?…pg
While it is certainly true that politics makes fools of us all – me too – I cannot escape from my overall sense of schadenfreude. I almost feel sorry for you who support(ed) Mr. Trump. But not very sorry.
I fear Trump will win in a landslide. The Beast will turn the Elites world upside down. The pendulum of the body politic that swung hard left will now swing hard right…pg
I finally found one of Sundance’s articles on the Monster Vote.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/09/oh-my-new-york-times-quietly-discusses-data-evidence-of-the-monster-vote/
This is why the Hillary camp is panicking and tossing out all the mud and sleaze as rapidly as they can manufacture it. This is why the Media is using Psy-ops like Agenda polling to make people THINK the race is close. The elite CAN’T steal an election with Trump 10 to 20 points ahead. They have to make people believe the race is very close for two reasons:
1. So the dedicated democratic voters are not discouraged and therefore do not vote.
2. To cover for the planned election shenanigans.
On the other hand We, who are part of the insurrection and retaking of our Federal Government have to vote and have to drag as many other people to the polls as possible.
Gail if you have not seen these:
http://ijr.com/opinion/2016/10/260836-leaked-email-clinton-campaign-plotted-threaten-supreme-court-obamacare-ruling/
http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/obamas-cabinet-was-built-by-a-wall-street-banker
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-15/wikileaks-releases-another-850-podesta-emails-part-8-data-dump-total-now-11019
Trump accusers allegations debunked
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/list-debunked-groper-allegations-corrupt-media-donald-trump/
@Gail:
” They have to make people believe the race is very close for two reasons:
1. So the dedicated democratic voters are not discouraged and therefore do not vote.
2. To cover for the planned election shenanigans.”
Given that highly Republican districts like Brevard county already have over a 60% turnout with 26 days left it seems that Trump has already motivated his voters.
It might be even more interesting to check whether the early voting in strongly Democrat districts is above or below 2012.
Looks like we have a back room brawl going on in the Ohio GOP, they are literally trying to throw the election for Hillary.
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/10/15/donald-trump-matt-borges-gop-split.html
Interesting info coming out of the FBI — I wonder could Comey get charged with obstruction of justice charges?
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/10/14/fbi-agents-furious-top-brass-letting-clinton-off-hook/
Interesting that alternate news outlets are doing a better job of reporting on the sexual abuse shills for HRC than the big American news media.
http://gotnews.com/busted-guardian-trump-accuser-is-life-long-democrat-donor-family-owns-competing-nyc-real-estate-dev-company/
A new paradigm for news reporting here as well.
http://gotnews.com/about/
It appears from this item on twitter that an order of magnitude more people are searching for information on Clinton rape than on Trump’s alleged groping.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cu1Qoc-VMAAX4hX.jpg:large
From Face book (fair use news worthy story and release by author in the work)
This is how access back stage at beauty contests really works:
Amy Colley Tyson with Jennifer Pitts McKenna and 6 others.
4 hrs · Brentwood, TN ·
Beyond proud of my fellow Miss USA sisters for fearlessly speaking truth despite criticism, ostracizing and the media’s complete fabrication of their statements to satisfy their agendas. Because of this, I have decided to give my own personal account of meeting Mr. Donald Trump in timeline format.
DISCLAIMER: My experience at Miss USA 2005 has nothing to do with any political affiliation or endorsement. It has nothing to do with alleged victim’s statements from prior years. It is solely my experience from 2005. I hope this provides some clarification.
***FEEL FREE TO SHARE THE TRUTH!***
I competed at Miss USA April 11th, 2005 televised from 9-11pm EST on NBC as Miss Tennessee USA. We were in Baltimore, Maryland for 3 weeks during the festivities. Chelsea Cooley, Miss USA 2005, was present in my dressing room. Also present: Miss Congeniality, Melissa Consin Young; Rachel ‘Saunders’ Imdieke, Miss Kansas; Meaghan Jarensky, Miss New York; Amy Crawford, Miss Washington; Tyler Willis Avary, Miss Texas; Jennifer Pitts, Miss Virginia.
**6:00pm- delegates released to dressing rooms (2 rooms total) to begin prep for live telecast. We were assigned one of two rooms based on our state title in alphabetical order. My assigned area was directly across from entrance on right hand side between Texas and South Dakota. The organization gave us 2 ½ hours to complete prep.
**8:20pm- 15 minute warning announced: chaperones, who were present at ALL times, announced Mr. Trump and his wife, Melania, would be briefly visiting the room to greet us. The chaperones instructed us to be completely dressed and appropriate.
**8:30- 5 minute warning. The chaperones walked along the room to ensure we were appropriate and to offer assistance to anyone should they request.
**8:35- Last announcement warning: this ensured we were appropriate and dressed. Mr. Trump and his wife, Melania, entered dressing area to say hello just after arriving to the building. Their visit was brief, pleasant, appropriate and 3 minutes maximum. Mr. Trump greeted us and wished us good luck. Melania spoke as well. Not once did he glance, speak or gesture inappropriately in our dressing room. He kept his gaze on Melania during most of the encounter. Chaperones were present at all times. Mr. Trump and his wife then exited to enter the next dressing room.
**8:45- delegates released from dressing rooms to line up in wings stage right and left.
**9:00pm-production begins
Interesting photo.
L-R: Jeb Bush, Rupert Murdoch, Valerie Jarrett – December 2014
H/T Sundance @ ConservativeTreeHouse.
Live flashmob in LA Latios for Trump on periscope
https://www.periscope.tv/latinaafortrump/1OwxWrBEXRQJQ
Interesting Who is who at ‘Conservative’ Fox news and also how Shaw fudged the after debate pole.
Rupert Murdoch Prepares Final Assault on Donald Trump – And Chris Wallace Debate Prep…
And a thoughtful comment by Sundance.
GEE, Isn’t that the definition of a Banana Republic? — No Rule of Law just Rule BY Outlaws?
ROTFLMAO —- MSM Propaganda Machine, here is you next victim of assault by Trump!
@p.g.:
“I fear Trump will win in a landslide. ”
What is it that you fear? Here are some of Trump’s issues in no particular order:
1. Secure the border.
2. Stringent screening of immigrants.
3. Reducing job killing regulations.
4. Returning the control of K-12 education to the local communities.
5. Reducing the federal debt.
6. Reducing corporate taxes.
Plus many more. This is the most issue driven election in decades so why the “Fear”?
Oh MY, H/T to Keln of the ConservativeTreeHouse! He has gone international!
Seems the DemonRats didn’t learn from the backfiring of Hillary’s Deplorable remark.
Ridicule is a weapon for which there is no defense.
And this one is even better:
https://twitter.com/CajunKangaroo/status/786575524894220288
HMMmmmm, interesting
@gallopingcamel; ;-) Great change causes disruption, good and bad. Turmoil creates opportunity for other mischief.
The international crime organisation of the Clintons must be stopped and our republic returned to Constitutionally limited governance.
The “Beast” is the next player to walk onto the stage…pg
It seems more of the Black Americans are deserting the Democrat Plantation.
https://twitter.com/SallySmart90/status/786717777411313664
And this
The philosophy of Thomas Moore is finally dying. The giverment always takes more then it gives.
The Internet has freed Knowledge and Information from the grasp of the Elite and spread it to all that seek it.
The connected Elite that lust to rule Us all are few that create nothing valuable.
We don’t need them…pg
@p.g.,
Thanks for the explanation………you had me thinking you preferred Hillary!
As you say the Internet is a great equalizer. One of Trump’s greatest achievements is exposing the lack of objectivity in the “Media”.
Major newspapers that endorsed a presidential candidate:
Hillary Clinton = 79
Donald Trump = 1
The “Press” is just the propaganda arm of Leftist elites.
Looks to me that the folks who are paying attention to the details and uncontrollable indexes like the number of yard signs and bumper stickers or rally attendance are all coming to the same conclusion that Hillary is really losing badly if there is a high turn out of Republicans and long time no vote crowd the so called “monster vote” of people who usually don’t vote because they see the system rigged and no practical difference between the two major party candidates. That cohort is actually nearly the size of the D and R cohorts combined if you can get it to participate it could easily swing the election hard with a land slide for which ever side it responds to.
From twitter:
Sharyl Attkisson @SharylAttkisson 11 minutes ago
NBC/WSJ interviewed 440 who identify as Dems, 370 Repubs. So 70 (18.9%) more Dems. HC is ahead in this sample by 10 percentage pts.
Bill Mitchell @mitchellvii 12 minutes ago
2008, a huge year for Democrats, was D+7. Current polls are averaging D+11 samples.
Sharyl Attkisson @SharylAttkisson 10 minutes ago
If somebody has better poll context or if I”m misreading NBC/WJS tweet me. I learned a little from my polling expert/story last week.
Sharyl Attkisson @SharylAttkisson 10 minutes ago
Just for curiosity sake since most polls iview more Dems, wd be interesting to see results of poll that iviews 18% more Repub.
Sharyl Attkisson @SharylAttkisson 10 minutes ago
I guess the argument against that is the belief that substantially more Dems will vote… but since this is a strange yr it’s hard to know
Sharyl Attkisson @SharylAttkisson 18m18 minutes ago
Sharyl Attkisson Retweeted DanRiehl
So accdg to NBC/WSJ sample, HC ahead of Trump 10 percentage points in poll that interviewed 18.9% more Dems than Repubs
Sharyl Attkisson @SharylAttkisson 26m26 minutes ago
Pollsters trying 2 do good job, I’ve spoken to several, they don’t know how to model accurately for this yrs turnout. Doing their best but
“@SharylAttkisson: ” Seem 2b using turnout models of ‘likely voters’ from ’08 & ’12 that REALLY don’t apply to ’16. Wholly diff electorate.
Bill Mitchell @mitchellvii 43m43 minutes ago
Isn’t it odd how few Hillary signs there are compared to Trump signs?
@mitchellvii drove across the entire state of PA on wed. 100s of trump signs. Lots handmade. 1 hillary sign and 1 hillary for prison sign.
Bill Mitchell @mitchellvii 32m32 minutes ago
Bill Mitchell Retweeted #MediasNextTrumpLie
Kaine just drew 50 people at his rally. Here’s Mike Pence.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cu51ciVWIAAzDo3.jpg:large
Jenifer ن @jeniferbo85 26 minutes ago
@keknocrat @mitchellvii @bakedalaska That wasn’t a rally, was it? He [Kaine] was speaking at Liberty University.
Sharyl Attkisson @SharylAttkisson Oct 14
FYI: Trump behind in most Democrat-heavy polls…(but ahead by 2 in Rasmussen, which weights for political party.)
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch_oct14
@SharylAttkisson @mgdmd1 Rand’s Daybreak 2012 poll was the most accurate. Its methodology is being used for the LA Times poll.
Michael Doherty @mgdmd1 32 minutes ago Michigan, USA
@Hollin_Drew @SharylAttkisson Thanks! It’s different this year , so I have no idea who to believe, but I don’t believe turnout will be D+11
Good Grief Pence a Vice Presidential candidate is getting a larger crowd than Hillary a Presidential candidate.
The Pence crowd from Larry’s post above
Hillary at a ‘captured’ audience of (Black) National Baptists at their national convention where Hillary Clinton was the key note speaker. (September 5-9, 2016 at the Kansas City Convention) The 2016 Democratic Convention will be held at the Wells Fargo Center in Philadelphia July 25th-28th so this is about a month after the nomination.
“The Kansas City Convention Center was set up in the same manner as the prior days general sessions where almost every seat was full. According to the convention center “This annual meeting typically draws 20,000 or more delegates”.” – link
They had to cut the room down to make it look close to full
The attendance that Hillary could not get despite ‘captive audience’
The floor diagram of the seating:
“Meanwhile outside the Baptist Convention venue”
……………
We just did a Black birthday party for some very nice people with lovely children. They handed us some literature afterwards that was NOT at all flattering to Obama……
A.F. Branco’s cartoons catch the current MSM position beautifully.
More great cartoons HERE
And the GOPe(stablishment)
Just an observation.
Based on the yard sign and bumper sticker index I am pretty sure there is little enthusiasm with Hillary, even in a strongly democratic area. These are communities which tried to pass Fracking prohibitions, and think Green energy is the greatest thing since sliced bread just outside the People’s Republic of Boulder.
I work at a company with about 180 head count, During Obama’s re-election for his second term about 10 – 15 of them had some sort of pro-Obama bumper sticker. Last Friday I walked the parking lot and there is exactly one car with an HRC sticker on it. I live and work just outside Boulder Colorado, this year I have only seen maybe 2 HRC yard signs. On the roads around Boulder same story seldom see a HRC bumper sticker.
I just realized in the last few days that there are just a handful of very hard core liberal folks on my facebook page which post pro-Hillary memes, some that I know for a fact are life long democrats (ie worked in the auto industry their entire career and strongly pro union etc.) put up anti-Hillary posts.
For a while there they were putting up memes from “Occupy Democrats” all the time, but even those posts have dwindled to a slow trickle.
I also realized that I was treating these posts like trolls and simply ignoring them, and it appears to my biased subjective eye that the same is happening from other commenters. Meme posts that would in the past have gotten 10,000 comments now have 2,300 comments. Posts about Trump only got virtue signaling responses from the folks on the left. The pro Trump folks simply ignored them knowing that to respond was like trying to answer the question “do you still beat your wife”.
I am also sure that the polls are completely cooked and those showing HRC with a thin but comfortable lead of 2 – 6% really show she is losing by 2%-4% or more. It is my suspicion that the media has over played their hand enough so that many no longer pay any attention to them and the gullible who they can still manipulate think HRC has a thin but reliable lead (ie they have never shown her down more than a razor thin percentage point and she quickly recovered in their polls )
As a result of all the above, I think the gullible will due to lack of enthusiasm and the apparent solid lead for Hillary be strongly disposed to find something else to do on election day (or they have already sent in an early ballot so no longer care).
There is also the cohort who are too shy to say they support trump who give a nominal head nod to HRC in conversation but will actually post a vote for Trump.
In a conversation at work a few days ago several were talking about how horrible the candidates were and one person made the comment that she did not like either candidate much, so will be voting for the Constitution – – (I interpret that as a vote for Trump and traditional interpretation non-activist Supreme Court Justices. but she was not willing to say out loud she would vote for Trump)
Just for what it is worth. (you get what you pay for and all that)
I will not be surprised if there is an historic landslide win by Trump just if nothing else as a resounding “screw you” to the establishment power players.
Those darn violent Trump supporters – – – so who’s violent here?
Let’s see how long it takes for mainstream media to mention this which was reported by UK papers just minutes ago (Published: 15:01 EST, 16 October 2016)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3841896/Republican-party-headquarters-firebombed-daubed-Nazi-graffiti-North-Carolina.html
Holy crap CNN actually has the chutzpah to tell people it is illegal for them to search wikileaks!
Fox picked up the fire bombing of the campaign head quarters in NC.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/10/16/nc-republican-party-hq-firebombed-nazi-leave-town-graffiti-hillsborough-donald-trump
The missed wikileaks mail on HRC health issues.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/16/hillary-clintons-health-problems/
Hillsborough NC????
WTF that is NOT inner city.
It is a very yuppy type high income town.
“The median income for a household in the town was $40,111, and the median income for a family was $46,793. “
(My town has a “median income for a household — $34,804, and the median income for a family — $39,447.”)
Population: 6,381 (2013)
https://visithillsboroughnc.com/
From twitter:
Bill Mitchell liked this
Dean @DeanSchanzel Oct 15
Professor Norpoth predicts Trump has a 87% chance to beat Hillary. – He predicted 5 of last 5 correctly Google him.
I lived in Hillsborough, North Carolina and set up the Orange Charter School there so it is hard to believe that something like this could happen there:
http://orangecharterschool.org/
I note that the school has changed its name. Perhaps because it wants to dissociate itself from Orange county.
Please fasten your seat belts, we expect a brief period of turbulence ahead, put away laptop computers and lock your tray tables up – – thank you.
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/16/matt-drudge-on-2016-sex-scandals-hillary-clinton-about-to-get-hers/
It appears that Podesta’s Russian connections are more than just rumor and the fact he lobbied for Russian interests.
http://endingthefed.com/wikileaks-bombshell-john-podesta-owned-75000-shares-in-putin-connected-energy-company.html
Fox news reported Trump rally at the Cincinnati stadium was half full. However according to local media reports there were approximately 7,000 additional supporters outside when the venue reached capacity of 20,000.
Lie much?
Seems Trump supporters have had enough of Media Lies and collusion.
BREAKING: Trump Crowd Shames Mainstream Media at Cincinnati, OH Rally!
The reporters even left early.
I think after the reporters got attacked in Charlotte NC they are realizing they could be at risk. A CNN reporter was purposefully rammed by protester and knocked to the ground and another report indicated that a news photographer was beaten before the protesters tried to throw him into a fire they had set. WCCB later said that their media crew was being taken to the hospital.
At this point I do not think ANY Trump supporters believe the MSM at all.
Sharyl Attkisson one of the last real journalists examines “newsgate” recent revelations of improper relations and manipulation of the news by politically active journalists outed by wikileaks dump.
https://sharylattkisson.com/newsgate-2016/
Fox News Sean Hannity does a good job covering the Wikileak John Podesta emails. He caught some I did not. (These Utubes are the only way I watch TV)
NEW WIKILEAKS Revelations DEADLY For Hillary Clinton
Wikileaks apparently is beginning to step on too many powerful toes.
From twitter:
Stefan Molyneux Retweeted
Roger Stone @RogerJStoneJr 3 hours ago (approx 23:00 EDT)
John Kerry has threatened the Ecuadorian President with “grave consequences for Equador” if Assange is not silenced @StoneColdTruth
Stefan Molyneux Retweeted
WikiLeaks @wikileaks 40 minutes ago (approx 01:20 EDT)
Julian Assange’s internet link has been intentionally severed by a state party. We have activated the appropriate contingency plans.
It will be interesting to see if this triggers a “dead man switch” data dump via other means.
@Gail:
That video of the rally is interesting… I’ll have to see if RightSide B. has it in their saved set. They ought to.
BTW, while YouTube is nice, the TV links here: https://chiefio.wordpress.com/tv/
Give a lot of nice variety. I’m particularly fond of the RT and Sky and France24 ones as you get a very non-US external view of the USA… the contrast with USA source material just makes the ‘spin’ and ‘propaganda’ bits stand out in stark relief (both ways).
@Larry:
Remember Silk Road? It was “taken down” several times only to immediately pop up on another internet feed from another place. I do mean instantly… A sleeper server that gets keepalive pings (i.e. that checks to see if a monitor box says the original is up) and when a NO is found, autoboots the replacement Virtual Machine elsewhere… It was a great ‘whack-a-mole’ game to watch…
IMHO Wikileaks is at least as smart…
Georgiafl, points out something I think guys, especially those in the media are completely missing.
https://twitter.com/AmyMek/status/786768361736765441
Don’t forget Obama is seeding these Rape-ugees in small towns across the nation. Hillary wants 550 times as many brought in even though she admits in the leaked emails we can not determine whether or not they are terrorists.
James Dellingpole certainly backs up the Islamic rape culture in the UK HERE and in several other articles. We have also seen it happening in the USA with the same type of government cover-up. (Parents threatened)
President Obama and Hillary Clinton’s War On Little Girls
Raped By PC – Five-Year-Old Idaho Girl Raped By Three Iraqi and Sudanese Refugees – Politically Correct Local Government Frozen…
And a newer one, this time an illegal.
Illegal Alien Kidnaps and Rapes Six-Year-Old Girl in Texas…
……………
WHAT is with these people raping babies?
I agree with Georgiafl when she then adds:
I agree I am sure wikileaks has anticipated this for a long time, also I would not be at all surprised if Anonymous goes all in to crush folks who got fingered by wikileaks if they get pulled down completely as I am confident that there is considerable bleed over between wikileaks and Anonymous membership and they will see this sort of action as a declaration of war against open internet access and information flow.
The administration (assuming they are the government actor here) may be starting a fight they can’t win.
Larry,
My thoughts exactly.
The younger set, under age 50, grew-up with computers and since ~1990 were used to having internet access of one sort or another. You are talking around 50% or more of the US population being between 15 and 50. These are the people Kerry is ticking-off, 150 million Americans many with really good hacking skills. NOT SMART
As the Trump crowd showed, they are NOT happy with the MSM or the collusion between the DNC and the MSM. Kerry just tossed a tanker load of gasoline on that ‘cold anger’
(In 2001, 21% of the USA pop were under 15 and 13% over 65.)
Some guy is doing a periscope video infront of the embassy.
https://www.periscope.tv/JohnDeplo/1yoJMDQYwzOGQ
I nearly choked on my morning tea….
If that becomes true I will be grinning ear to ear.
Facebook is gaslighting the public.
Bull Durham replies
E.M. Larry? How much of the rest that is not bold is Tinfoil hat stuff?
And another reply from Duke Taber
It seems that the Cincinnati rally and the crowd booing the media (see “Seems Trump supporters have had enough of Media Lies and collusion” up thread) really got to the media and they are now reacting.
Brian Stelter is the senior media correspondent for CNN and the host of Reliable Sources. Previously he was a media reporter for The New York Times and the editor of TVNewservice.
Here is one of the twitter
This is another email from the oddball Orca100. However this time it is very very good with a compilation of quotes and videos to support his narrative.
The fact that Podesta received this email detailing the horror show in Europe means he, and by extension Hillary have ZERO plausible denaibility.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/295
Multikultistan: A house of horrors for ordinary Germans
From:orca100@upcmail.nl
To:podesta@law.georgetown.edu
Date: 2016-02-21 00:51
Subject: Multikultistan: A house of horrors for ordinary Germans
The story told by that email is so tragic and because western media is incompetent or complicit the reality of European multiculturalism is not getting out in a timely manner. Germany, France Sweden, etc will pay an awful price to clean up this mess. Because of the inability of the governments to face the facts I fear the problem will be solved (or at least confronted) by mobs in the street and a civil war between ethnic groups in those countries. We will see a return to the massive religious wars of historic Europe and a new 50 – 100 years war for the 21st century.
This may be a secondary issue in Putin’s behavior, I suspect he sees that in a few years maybe a decade or two, he will have a hostile Islamic hoard on his doorstep to the west. It is entirely conceivable that in time Russia will be the European savior for countries like Poland who don’t want to be enveloped and swallowed by the Islamic amoeba of multiculturalism.
An interesting article on Trump and this election – free speech and political correctness.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/441114/donald-trump-supporters-chinese-immigrant-women-ying-ma
Democrat intentional provocation of violent incidents (bird dogging) outed.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/17/exclusive-okeefe-video-sting-exposes-bird-dogging-democrats-effort-to-incite-violence-at-trump-rallies/
@Larry and Gail: It is not unusual in north Germany (NRW, Berlin, Hamburg, Köln, for the most part) for the police to make a traffic stop, or an inquiry visit, and be surrounded in short order by tens, if not HUNDREDS of angry “family” members. (I’m searching for a non-German article about this – have lots of German ones).
Lebanese clans basically run Berlin and Hamburg, divvying up the various rackets (drugs, prostitution, petty and grand theft, fencing, etc.) between the various “tribes” and the Rockers (Hells’ Angels, Bandidos, etc.). It is actually a long-standing problem that has been more-or-less ignored and concealed by politicians and overburdened/underbudgeted police authorities that the added influx of young, violent Moslems has exacerbated.
The various “Gastarbeitern” that Germany brought in during the Wirtschaftswunder to fill the roles of the missing men (from WWII) have all integrated (Italian, Greek, Turkish, Spanish, Portugese, and some Asian) with the glaring exception of the Turks, who, even four generations on, remain self-isolated. The operative word here being self, as others have reached out to them, but their culture and religion forbid them to assimilate.
I live in a small town (14K residents or so) in south Germany, which, until a few years ago was a typical German town. Now, since all towns have to take a quote of “refugees”, the whole character of the city has changed, even to the point that in the grocery stores pork and beef (and “gemisched”) products are segregated, and “Halal” products are appearing, and in some cases featured on the shelves. Funny that Kosher never got such attention.
Shopping after 17:00 or so has become hit or miss, almost like being at a bazaar, as the displays in the stores are jumbled after this point, and I’m often the only one of European heritage shopping at that hour (nightowl here – “Jeff-lag”). The mom-and-pop shops that dotted our admittedly small market-street are being replaced one-by-one with Turkish or Moroccan or other non-German shops, even Shisha-Bars, with even the Italian Pizzerias being forced out by Kebap shops.
Some of the families (including my wife’s) have been in this town or area over 1000 years, and they’ve never seen anything like this. It really is a lot worse than Merkel &co. would have anyone believe, nor than what the main-scream-media would report. The AfD, UKIP, FPÖ,
and Le Pen are gaining support because of this, and here in Germany, the AfD is now the third-strongest party, ahead of the Greens, “Die Linke”, the FDP, and a host of other, smaller parties.
Interesting times, indeed.
@Larry That’s a quite damning story. Hope it at least goes viral in the Twitter-verse. Not holding my breath wrt msm.
Wikileaks dumping everything via torrent?
https://nationonenews.com/2016/10/17/wikileaks-just-dumped-everything-this-is-huge-historic-activity-by-wikileaks-read-and-share-before-it-is-taken-down/
EM you may want to grab images of some of these files, this is exactly what you and I were suspecting would happen.
I notice in that National Review article that Jeremy Carl took it as given that Trump was a horrible nasty person who eats babies for breakfast.
He never sees the Trump who while out on the Town in NYC had his cab stop so he could prevent a thug from beating someone to death or the Trump who sent his own plane to carry a very ill jewish boy from CA to NY to see a specialist. He doesn’t see the guy, who while his companies were going through chapter 11, had to be put on a budget of no more that $100,000? a week to be given away directly by him by his accountant.
THIS man, this generous man is the one who decided to put himself in the cross-hairs. Make no mistake he knew he would be the target of slander abuse and possibly bankruptcy and assassination but he did it anyway. His son said Obama’s Iraq deal was the final straw BTW.
EM it might be about time to consider an “Hillary Wikileaks & Trump “issues” Collection part2” thread this one is loading/refreshing kind of slow for me.
@Gail — E.M. Larry? How much of the rest that is not bold is Tinfoil hat stuff?
It is pretty much all technically possible. The question is how far do those actors think they can go before the destroy the credibility of their product. Also how much money do they want to burn on code development to allow efficient directed manipulation of user posts. Depending on their code architecture it could be trivial or a major overhaul which could produce unintended secondary effects which would out the project.
We are currently seeing this in the media as more and more folks are closely watching what they put up and do not put up, and catch edits and changes in articles almost in real time.
Although transparent to the casual user that sort of manipulation always leaves some sort of tracks behind which knowledgeable people can monitor. We already have cases of random posts and tweets simply disappearing and viewer counts suddenly decreasing on controversial videos.
@Larry:
I’d love to grab a copy via torrent, but don’t have the ability (i.e. time) until this evening. On the road and with other obligations.
Anyone want to find / publish the link to do the actual download?
As per a “Part 2” Yeah, wanted to do it last Friday but “life happens”… I’ve got a few minutes now so …
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