Democrats – Lords Of Chaos Choose Defiance

Well, it looks to me like we’ve got the early returns on what Soros and his Lords Of Chaos team have decided for the Democrats. “Double Down On Illegal” is what it looks like to me.

First off, we have the ongoing Soros funded street theatre riots (and just where is the prison full of said rioters the next day? Hmmm? Oh, right, the Democratic mayors saying we need to let folks break things and harm people to let off some steam…)

Second, we now have the Parade Of Sanctimonious Cities.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/11/12/nyc-la-mayors-learn-nothing-promise-to-continue-as-sanctuary-cities/

NYC and L.A. Mayors Learn Nothing, Promise to Continue as Sanctuary Cities
BY STEPHEN KRUISER NOVEMBER 12, 2016

Alternative, more realistic headline for the article: “Mayors of NY and Los Angeles pledge to keep Democrats in extended minority.”

Officials in New York and Los Angeles on Thursday said they hoped President-elect Donald Trump would not follow through on a campaign promise to withhold federal funds from “sanctuary cities” that shield people who are in the country illegally.
The nation’s two largest cities have sharply limited their cooperation with U.S. immigration authorities seeking to deport undocumented immigrants.
[…]

Both media and Beltway types haven’t quite figured out that a good portion of America isn’t in sync with them on “comprehensive immigration reform” and the coddling of people who aren’t in the country legally, many of whom are violent. It was the original engine propelling the Trump machine forward in the early primary days, and remains an issue of great disconnect even now that Trump has won.

Fox had a map with a half dozen others. You know the drill. All the usual Democratic Strongholds. Portland, San Francisco, NYC, Newark, Boston, etc. etc. Those are just the ones already “got the memo” and staging “defiance” pressers with the compliant Democratic suck up media.

The total of Sanctimonious Cities is likely up around 200, and more of them will make such Street Theatre In A Suit presentations too; as soon as the Soros check clears…

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/map-over-200-sanctuary-cities-in-32-states-and-d.c./article/2567880

Has a nice map of about 200 of them.

Map: Over 200 ‘sanctuary cities’ in 32 states and D.C.

By PAUL BEDARD (@SECRETSBEDARD) • 7/9/15 8:54 AM

There are over 200 “sanctuary cities” in 32 states that give safe harbor to illegal immigrants, even violent ones with felony records like the man accused of killing a San Francisco woman last week, according to a new analysis.

RELATED: GOP leader: ‘You could hear from Congress’ on sanctuary cities

The Center for Immigration Studies on Wednesday posted a map of the cities. On their website, they reported:

“More than 200 cities, counties and states across the United States are considered sanctuary cities. These state and local jurisdictions have policies, laws, executive orders, or regulations allowing them to avoid cooperating with federal immigration law enforcement authorities. These ‘cities’ ignore federal law authorizing U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to administratively deport illegal aliens without seeking criminal warrants or convictions from federal, state, or local courts.”

Hit the link to see the map. To my eye it looks like most of them are in the BosWash Corridor, Oregon, California, Colorado, and for some odd reason a cluster in Iowa / Illinois area. Chicago and Illinois I can understand, but Iowa? I thought they were smarter than that…

In any case, it doesn’t hit 80% or so of the “Flyover Country” that voted for Trump, so hurting those cities will NOT hurt his constituency and the Street Theatre In A Suit will be all preaching to the (illegal?) choir.

Dear Donald

I’m going to have some sporadic advice for President Donald. (No, I don’t think I need ‘elect’ in there, he’s the Pres now. Obama is off on his final vacation in Europe…) I know they have a web site where you can submit ideas, but I’m just going to put it in Dear Donald postings. If it has merit, it can advance on its own. ( I create ideas and things, but I’m not so interested in promotion of them, and self promotion just seems sleazy to me…) So here’s my Dear Donald on this one:

Dear President Donald,

The Democratic (Soros funded) machine met recently to decide how to torpedo your administration. From the looks of it, Street Theater Protests are to continue (isn’t there a law about incitement to riot? Doesn’t that apply to funding from organizations and from Soros?) Also on the cards is Public Rebuke by the mayors of Democratic Strongholds. They are “playing to their base” of illegal voters…

So they are taking the Defiance Of Authority route (as all good babies try) and are having a public tantrum. It is my belief that you simply need to do what all good parents do: Give them a swat on the rump, no dinner, and send them to their room to cry.

1) The Swat: Direct that any funding withheld from Sanctuary Cities be directed to the I.C.E. budget to enhance immigration enforcement.

2) No Dinner: Suspend Federal money from any city that doesn’t comply with Federal Law. This will give you $Billions more to disburse as you like and will be especially useful for building walls and hiring I.C.E. agents. Make sure each such redirection is tagged as to the city of source (so folks can ‘thank’ them) and maybe even dedicating parts of the wall with a dedication of “These 20 miles funded by The City Of Chicago”…

3) Off to bed: Hold your press conferences without any mention of their politicians. None. They are in their room… DO state that “$Billions have been added to the budget of {agency} for border enforcement thanks to The City Of {wherever} this year.” A particularly nice touch might be having some of the money fund a Federal Criminal Alien Task Force to go into those cities and find the criminals. Oh, and while they are at it, enforce the crime of harboring them against anyone who tries to help hide them.

That’s my idea and advice. If you find it useful, please take it gratis.

E.M.Smith
Deplorable At Large

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182 Responses to Democrats – Lords Of Chaos Choose Defiance

  1. G. Combs says:

    Interesting video.

  2. G. Combs says:

    E.M. There is another more subtle defiance. I just spent a very frustrating two hours trying to post and finding the URL links to Br1etb@rt and to Alex Jones are now banned by word press. There was also a third within the CTH (sundance) article I was commenting on.

    I really really do not like the fact that Twitter, Facebook and WordPress are using censorship and other tricks to prevent the truth from spreading.

  3. G. Combs says:

    Youtube is also picking and choosing too.

  4. E.M.Smith says:

    @Gail:

    That can only go on “so long” and alternatives pop up. Also, for WordPress, my suspicion is that they have an “implicit voting” process. IFF a bunch of web site operators mark something “SPAM”, it looks for a commonality. When enough folks fish things OUT of SPAM, it learns that wasn’t the right flag. (Or maybe only learns it for that blog / site?)

    At any rate, it is quite common for “something” unexpected to start showing up in SPAM, and then after fishing a few out, having it stop.

    I suspect it is just a Slightly Idiot Robot making unwarranted generalizations sometimes but right enough of the time that they don’t “fix” it…

    In any case, after fishing yours out of SPAM, I did a test post with Breitbart in it and it worked.

    When sites like Google offend folks, they go elsewhere (like Yahoo – now absorbed into AT&T it seems) or duckduckgo. That then causes “issues” for the stock price. It looks like they have been dropping since the election…

    http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/kaavio.Webhost/charts/big.chart?nosettings=1&symb=goog&uf=16&type=4&size=3&sid=14766457&style=320&freq=1&entitlementtoken=0c33378313484ba9b46b8e24ded87dd6&time=8&rand=565333985&compidx=aaaaa%3a0&ma=4&maval=23&lf=268435456&lf2=4&lf3=1024&height=820&width=720&mocktick=1

    There are plenty of search engines to choose from, and if it gets “bad enough”, folks can very easily create a Rightside Search Engine. (It’s just a spider crawling the web making indexes in a database that then is searched via a web page. Pretty darned simple, really. Yeah, there’s some “logic” in making the database, but for a simple and non-biased one, that’s pretty easy.). Do it based on a cloud service provider to start and you don’t even have start-up building / hardware costs, just a service cost, much of which can scale with user growth. (Eventually, when big enough, you can capture some or all of the traffic to your own facilities and eliminate the service costs in favor of capital, but that’s for later).

    Rather like the Catholic TV Channel has Catholic News (that I now watch as they have an interesting perspective), nothing forces you to use Google, or watch CNN…

  5. Larry Ledwick says:

    Gail you now have a whole bunch of posts with brietbart links in them, not sure if E.M. Pulled them out of spam, but I am seeing the links and posts on the other thread.

    On several occasions I have posted something and it did not appear to show up on the window I posted in, but if you open a new session to this site, they show up on the new session just fine.
    When I think a link has gone into never never land I wait a couple minutes, then open a new window in my browser to this site and see if it shows up there to avoid multiple posts of the same comment.

  6. Larry Ledwick says:

    They might be referencing some black list as part of their filtering.
    Those have been known to have intentionally flagged certain web sites or domains as spam sources.

    Once I had the ISP I used get flagged as spam source on one of the black lists because someone using them started blasting out spam. That black listing took us all off line as far as many email systems were concerned until it was resolved. I couldn’t send email to commercial email addresses I regularly had sent to in the past until that black listing got challenged.

  7. Larry Ledwick says:

    Might also be related to this move by twitter to shut down what they consider “hate speech”
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-twitter-alt-right-idUSKBN13B2EP

  8. G. Combs says:

    Thanks for the retrieve E.M. As I said I spent a frustrating two hours trying to post.

    Now I find I am banned at
    https://markstoval.wordpress.com/2016/08/07/an-anarchist-looks-at-voting-in-2016/

    (no links) and I know it is not Mark doing it.

    ‘They’ really do not like me… my google e-mail addess means my comment ALWAYS disappears so I switched to Yahoo. Now I am having problems with that.

  9. Jeff says:

    @Gail: You might take a page from the trolls book and use “throwaway” email addresses. Seems like every time they get obnoxious on a forum, and banned, they’ll pop up under another handle. No reason we Treepers (Ents?) can’t do that too… Not just twitter but twitchy has been bad, too, and twitchy was supposed to be an “anti-Twitter” of sorts. Seems it has devolved into RINOe territory…

  10. G. Combs says:

    I can not stand these smug ‘holier than thou’ spoiled rotten dis-info agents with foul mouths.
    Best Of The Young Turks Election Day Meltdown 2016: From smug to utterly devastated.

    Cenk Kadir Uygur was born in Turkey. I have a major problem with an immigrant bad mouthing MY country. If you do not like it here LEAVE and take your SJW buddies with you.

    Gov. Huckabee is a breath of fresh air.

  11. Annie says:

    That’s interesting G Combs. I’ve assumed it was you we saw on Jo’s blog re the election recently but not in the last few days. Have you tried to post lately? Jo still has new posts on the election and ongoing shenanigens by Dem supporters. I linked over to here through one comment on her latest post.

  12. beththeserf says:

    Chiefio, I’d say gracias for that gratis advice. Here’s hoping it’s taken up.
    Funny how hate speech is illegal but hate action’s quite okay.

  13. G. Combs says:

    More idiotic lying. Can’t these ‘college educated’ people connect the dots?

    Shadow Stat shows he is a complete liar.

    http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/gross-domestic-product-charts

    http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts

    I would say the tiny uptick is people hopeful of a Trump win

  14. Gail Combs says:

    Annie, Yes I have posted at Jo’s but I had to change my name and e-mail address to do so.
    Whether or not I get booted is irratic. I was really surprised I could not post at Mark’s (Again I had to change e-mail addresses months ago.)

  15. cynic says:

    Good news about the environment, and it’s ability to sustain humour. David Attenborough has been reported to the FBI for inciting the assassination of President-Elect-Presumptive Trump:
    https://inews.co.uk/essentials/culture/television/david-attenborough-reported-fbi-shoot-donald-trump-joke/

  16. E.M.Smith says:

    @Larry:

    I fished them from SPAM.

    Rarely is spam marked by hand for a major service. It is largely automated. I know many parts of it are automated by WordPress, based on what ends up in SPAM when, and what doesn’t. There are some known specifics, like too many links, as they made that configurable.

    Often sites have a speed limit. Too many per minute (or hour) adds to your score until you trip… The assumption being that no person would make 4 comments per minute (or whatever…). Individual site managers can add some rules, so variation by blog exists. Gail got caught once, a month or so back, by one of my moderation filters by commenting about a person with the name of a flagged person in the comment; an unfortunate effect since they don’t let me flag by poster name in the from field only; so folks complaining about the offender trip the offender filter…

    There are also “repeated text” flaggers. Post the same thing “too many times” and the assumption is that that text marks a SPAM hustle body.

    The most interesting one I think I have observed is that “voting off the island” one. prodigious commenters who would be politically unfavored at some sites, suddenly go to SPAM, after a trigger event that would increase their activity (and potential hand flagging by annoyed admins on some blogs). Then I fish a few out of SPAM and the system learns not to put them there (at least on my site…).

    I’ve managed and configured such systems, and even I can’t figure out exactly what WordPress will flag as SPAM. FWIW, I’ve found me in there before… on my own site!

    My best advice is if things go missing (just gone, no ‘awaiting moderation’ notice) Give it a day for me to find it before banging on things more and increasing repeated text counts and post per minute counts. Maybe try one “post in moderation?” comment to encourage my attention (that only happens after breakfast in any case… coffee being essential to admin duties). Otherwise you just end up fighting with a stupid robot, and that’s no fun… at least when it is winning :-)

  17. Graeme No.3 says:

    On the lighter side of the news; the commentators become the commentated.
    Keep your coffee cup away from your keyboard or tablet.

  18. Skeptic says:

    Probably a silly question from a non US person but, is it possible in the US, with the ever increasing rioting, to declare Marshall Law? With the country under Marshall Law the election would be set aside until order was restored. This of course would only happen if a new election was called!

  19. Larry Ledwick says:

    It is possible, but not probable.

    In US law there is no specific legal definition of what constitutes ” marshal law” and what is sufficient cause to try to invoke it. It is a common law concept but not defined in statute.
    True marshal law generally only occurs when the normal legal system breaks down completely (ie no habeas corpus hearings are possible).

    True martial law instances have only occurred on a handful of instances in modern time.
    Improper use of government troops to enforce the law after the civil war, resulted in the Posse Comitatus act, which prohibits the military from enforcing civil law.

    In the few occasions where military troops have been called out to assist law enforcement they always work as assistants to local sworn law enforcement officers to resolve that issue. Or in special circumstances they are exempt (ie National Guard called up by the Governor rather than Federalized by the President, or under insurrection laws).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

    True Marshal law was used in the following and a few other cases :
    Post San Francisco earth quake

    Federal troops assisted in LA riots 1992
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots
    The rioting ended after members of the California Army National Guard, the 7th Infantry Division, and the 1st Marine Division were called in to stop the rioting when the local police could not control the situation. In total, 55 people were killed during the riots and over 2,000 people were injured.

    What is normally meant by Marshal Law is a local state of emergency declared by the Governor or mayor. These are often technically illegal but are tolerated by the citizens due to the nature of the emergency. They are often without true legal authority and are done under some nebulous declaration of an effort to keep the peace or protect lives.

    The Police in New Orleans exceeded their legal authority after Hurricane Katrina.

    Bottom line, is that yes using emergency declarations they can call in reinforcements by bending the rules a bit.

  20. G. Combs says:

    Trump Team Top picks and cat fights.

  21. pg sharrow says:

    @Skeptic; Inauguration Day is the first day of the new administration. The old one will no longer have any constitutional power to command any Federal assets. There is a whole list of secession, none of which includes anyone of the old guard. The military has sworn to enforce and defend the Constitution. The only way to derail the change is the death of all of the incoming people as well as the members of the House and Senate.
    The Obamanation is done. There is no going back…pg

  22. beththeserf says:

    Always wanted ter say this. ‘Be still my beating heart!’ )

  23. E.M.Smith says:

    @Skeptic:

    First off, things are not getting worse. There are a few cities with small rent-a-mob groups for a few hours a night. One interesting statistic was that ALL the demonstrators did not add up to ONE Trump rally in size. So these are small local events, blown up by the media to look like something they are not.

    Second, they are a local law enforcement issue that could easily be ended locally. They are wanted by the mayor in those cities, so police are told to babysit and help the street theatre. They could easily arrest the 100 main leaders of the event, keep them for a few days, and end it; but the purpose of those Dimocratic Mayors is to make Trump look bad by promoting the mess.

    Third: To the best of my knowledge, it isn’t legally possible to postpone the innaguration nor call a new election by executive order. After Kennedy was assassinated, Johnson was sworn in on the plane. During several wars, we had a change of President. It would be very hard to say some brats in the street were a bigger deal than those things.

    @Larry:

    Posse Comitatus was watered down under Baby Bush (though as noted later reverted…):

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

    Recent legislative events

    In 2006, Congress modified the Insurrection Act as part of the 2007 Defense Authorization Bill (repealed as of 2008). On September 26, 2006, President George W. Bush urged Congress to consider revising federal laws so that U.S. armed forces could restore public order and enforce laws in the aftermath of a natural disaster, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition. These changes were included in the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007 (H.R. 5122), which was signed into law on October 17, 2006.[7]

    Section 1076 is titled “Use of the Armed Forces in major public emergencies.” It provided that:

    The President may employ the armed forces… to… restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition… the President determines that… domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order… or [to] suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if such… a condition… so hinders the execution of the laws… that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law… or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.[8]

  24. G. Combs says:

    The ‘protesters’ caused the death of the father of a 4 year old girl. link

    The father of a 4-year-old girl died after anti-Trump protesters blocked roads and delayed an ambulance from reaching the hospital, according to an anguished message posted on Facebook.

    “I have to unfacebook for a few days. I had a patient die during a transfer last night because our ambulance was stopped by protesters and had to drive an extra 45 minutes around the blocked roads,” the anonymous post reads.
    “I can’t today. They can give their f**king safety pins to my patient’s fatherless 4 year old daughter,” the post concludes.

    The mention of “safety pins” is in reference to a campaign started by anti-Trump protesters to wear safety pins to “show support for the vulnerable” and to express the fear that Trump’s supporters “may physically or emotionally abuse minorities, immigrants, women and members of the L.G.B.T. community.”

  25. tom0mason says:

    I think this announcement from Surgeon General Vivek Murthy explains a lot about what is wrong with society currently…
    http://www.thecitizen.co.tz/News/Addiction-is-a-crisis–not-a-character-flaw–US-surgeon-general/1840386-3455616-1ggqfb/index.html

  26. Larry Ledwick says:

    Really interesting article here. Does a very good job of showing what nonsense most of the Left’s criticism of Trump is, yet at the same time shows the mental disconnect that still finds him a terrible candidate for doing things like “wanting to extreme vet Muslim immigrants”

    That is like being upset that coal miners are not allowed to carry matches into coal mines on the off chance that in a moment of not thinking, they strike a match and set off a methane explosion, as if that is some sort of violation of their rights.

    Rational people understand that when you have a population that openly admits that about 13% of them want to kill people who disagree with them on religious philosophy and also come from parts of the world where summary execution by terrorists is routinely practiced for the most trivial violations of doctrine or perceived insult, and their philosophical leaders have openly declared war on your country multiple times and their philosophy includes a doctrine that encourages lying to further their cause, and who’s philosophy’s most important book on doctrine demands in 12 different places that they should never ever be friends with people who do not adhere to their doctrine, that – – – – – – – – you just might want to ask them a few questions about their real motive for immigrating to the US.

  27. Gail Combs says:

    If you missed it over at CTH — Most Americans Don’t Know About President Obama’s UniParty Slush Fund…

    Sundance talks about most of Obummer’s actions were EOs and “Trumpenstroke“ [Trump-Pen-Stroke]. – The act of eliminating dictatorial fiat with the counter stroke of a President Trump pen. AND

    …another more substantive area where little attention has been paid, because the UniParty co-facilitated it. That area is the fiscal spending side of the DC.

    The last federal budget was signed into law in September of 2007 by President George W Bush for fiscal year 2008. Since then the entire mechanism of the federal government has been carried out by continuing resolutions, raises in the debt ceiling, and unfettered spending.

    Absent of an actual federal budget, all spending falls under a process called base-line budgeting to determine allocation. Federal distribution of the money within the continuing resolution, is essentially a year-over-year expenditure with a statutory increase based on inflation. Essentially, whatever was spent in 2009 was respent in 2010 along with a little bit more…..

    In February 2009 congress passed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, or ARRA, commonly referred to as Obama’s stimulus plan. The stimulus was just shy of one trillion ($986 billion +/-).

    At the time of passage this single stimulus expenditure reflected a growth of approximately 20% in total federal spending. The spending went directly into the deficit….
    The $1 Trillion Stimulus was spent eight more times.

    What most people don’t remember was what the money was spent on….

    Sundance goes on to talk about what swallowed that money. Obummercare being one of the projects.

    I would be interested in E.M.’s take on what Sundance says.

  28. Gail Combs says:

    One interesting comment

    emet says:

    Some Federal govt trivia you may/may not know.

    …When JFK fought to get Merideth enrolled at Ol’ Miss, he discovered that there were only 300 US Marshalls in the whole country, most of them decrepit political apointees. He used Border Patrol and BOP.

    The Federal govt hires convicted criminals under the rehabilitated offender program.
    It also hires people who have been confined to mental institutions under the mentally restored persons program.
    OK. enough!
    link

    GOOD GRIEF! And I thought Affirmative Action was bad…

  29. E.M.Smith says:

    @Gail:

    Maybe after breakfast and that intrusion detection howto that’s a week overdue now….

    In general, all Fed budgets are a joke at best, a fraud at worst. Like the “debt limit” that now is just a “debt timer to the next press release opportunuty about the tantrum du jour”. Any belief that Federal spending is anything other than a wide open raid on the wealth of the nation (by BOTH sides) is seriously broken. The entire military budget is primarily to enrich the arms makers (and via donations their owned politicians) while the Ag department exists to buy farm votes via huge wealth transfers to large commercial farms AND free money via “food stamps” to the Democratic base. There are commissions that never do anything ( since the thing they ‘regulate’ is no longer used) but the salaries are good so they never end; each side assuring their folks get the free ride.

    One of the most shameful things done was Ryan agreeing to give Obama a wide open checkbook through the end of his term (in the last budget flap) thus assuring Trump has an existential budget fight in his first month. Republicans once again shooting their own.

    My only hope is another C.R. and in that first year Trump just shuts whole agencies. Attempting to clean them up will mire in the who’s ox is gored fight from BOTH parties, while a “shut and restart” might be sold to the parties as an opportunuty to harvest more money by selling new favors in some new agency in the future. After all, if things are static and ossified, you can’t get as much money out of them (fear is too low in a status quo pitch).

    But, IMHO, it is that Q1 budget crisis on the docket that is going to be what matters, and the structural garbage can of unguarded cash of the agencies that is the impediment. Everything else is secondary.

  30. Gail Combs says:

    Interview with Mryon Ebel, Trump’s transition appointment for the EPA.

  31. Gail Combs says:

    Expect major riots just after Trump takes office and “Trumpenstroke“ is used to undo not only Obummers Exec Orders but EOs of many many other presidents within the first few days. (A promis made by Trump that is very easy to enact.)

    At that point we are looking at Sedition

    A revolt or an incitement to revolt against established authority, usually in the form of Treason or Defamation against government. [All those nice signs calling for rape of Melania and assassination of Trump.]

    Sedition is the crime of revolting or inciting revolt against government…..

    Following the September 11th Attacks of 2001, the federal government feared that terrorist networks were very real threats, and that if left unchecked, would lead to further insurrection. As a result, Congress enacted the Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act (USA PATRIOT) Act of 2001, Pub. L. No. 107-56, 115 Stat. 272. Among other things, the act increases the president’s authority to seize the property of individuals and organizations that the president determines have planned, authorized, aided, or engaged in hostilities or attacks against the United States….

    With the WikiLeaks plus Craiglist ads plus out of state paid professional riot inciters, PLUS La Raza and Mexican flag wavers. Things could get really really interesting….

    La Raza is very much advocating sedation since it calls for take over and removal of a significant amount of US land to be annexed by Mexico.

  32. agimarc says:

    I am waiting for a government to go after Soros. After all, he has gone after governments, crashing the Brit Pound Sterling for one, and funding the riots in blue cities for another. You choose to play at the government level, don’t be surprised at some point that a government plays with you. Would be interesting if all his estate simply disappeared shortly followed by Soros himself, hopefully into a CIA Black Site somewhere. Cheers –

  33. Gail Combs says:

    And then, after placing a couple of Strict CONSTITUTIONAL Justices on the Supreme Court you can have lots of fun with the idea of “Anchor Babies” A completely idiotic idea.

    Babies Don’t Provide Anchors!

    By Publius Huldah

    Section 1 of the 14th Amendment says:

    “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside…”

    The purpose of this Section was to extend citizenship to freed slaves and to protect them from southern Black Codes which denied them basic God-given rights.

    This Section does not provide that illegals who invade our Country and drop a baby here are automatically the parents of a US citizen.

    The key is “subject to the jurisdiction thereof”: Consider the French ambassador and his lovely young wife stationed in Washington, DC. She gives birth to a child here. Her child was born here. But is her child “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States? No! The child is subject to the same jurisdiction as his parents: France.

    Consider the American Indians: Sec.1 of the 14th Amendment did NOT confer citizenship on American Indians. They were not “subject to the jurisdiction of the United States” – they were subject to the jurisdiction of their tribes….

    There are plenty of earlier Supreme Court cases that uphold Publius Huldah’s opinion.

    A bit more…
    https://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/2016/01/17/natural-born-citizen-status-is-inherited-its-not-bestowed-by-the-constitution-or-acts-of-congress/

  34. Gail Combs says:

    agimarc, That is who I was thinking of… Never forget Russia has an international warrant out for him. What a wonderful start to détente. Send him and his sons to Russia and we confiscate ALL his $$$$.

    A real win-win for the entire world. And then Egypt has a warrant out for Obummer and Hitlery….

  35. E.M.Smith says:

    @Phil:

    OMG! That’s just too precious ;-)

    @Gail:

    OK, I read it. Not much to add to what I said before other than: “It isn’t that simple”… though I think you already know that as nothing in Government is ever that simple.

    One major complexity is that some expenditures are “ex-budget”. Most of our wars, for example. That needs sorting before you can say it was all just rolled forward.

    Another is that the implementing act was not all expenditures. A huge chunk of it was tax “relief”. That would not be rolling forward an expenditure, but rolling forward lower taxes…

    Third is just the issue that “No law says what it means, especially not the title. -E.M.Smith” so figuring out what each part REALLY did in terms of funding would take staff-years that I don’t have. How much was ‘earmarks’ and how much was “this or that year only” and how much… You get the idea.

    So until someone spends a serious couple of months combing through the legislation, how it was implemented really, what subsequent legislation changed things, how Executive Orders changed all of those, what was ‘ex-budget’ vs. in, etc. etc. and how much was really money spent as opposed to money not collected… all one (i.e. me) can do is say “Well, there’s SOME there there, but who knows how much”. But it also can be said that it isn’t simply a ‘repeat the face value sum each year’ as the face value sum includes a lot of tax reductions.

  36. G. Combs says:

    Phil, I LOVE IT!
    ROTFLMAO!

  37. Larry Ledwick says:

    The only way out of our current budget crunch is to cut expenditures and slow growth of government so tax revenue can catch up.

    One way to do that which would be relatively benign would be for Trump to issue a Federal hiring freeze over the entire government or at least key departments and let the slowly die due to attrition. This has been done before.

    http://www.govexec.com/management/2016/11/trumps-hiring-freeze-possible-comes-major-pitfalls/133071/

    You need to limit exemptions as they always claim urgent need to replace, so give them a 5% of losses ability to hire new. That way they only hire positions that they really need.

    Also send the department heads a requirement to cut over all budget by x% across the board, don’t care how they do it just let them know that this years budget will be 2% less than last years, and force them to make hard choices like not buying donuts for the staff at meetings, and booking cheaper seminar venues or using video conference rather than flying folks all over the country.

    By reducing the slope of the growth curve you will with little pain to the employees gradually get on the right side of the budget curve where tax revenue exceeds costs and you can start to take a bite out of the budget deficit.

    By making it across the board you eliminate the “but xyz does not have to do it” defense.

    Likewise kill cost of living increases for government salaries until you reach a certain bench mark as a carrot and stick approach. If you don’t meet budget reduction requirements it comes out of your salary increases in the future.

    Third party audits of departments would also help highlight fat that can be cut.

  38. E.M.Smith says:

    @Larry:

    All good ideas. I’d only point out axing whole departments (like Dept. of Ed. that didn’t exist pre-Carter and education was better then…) can reduce expenditures fast; and that tax RATE cuts to increase tax REVENUES also works well. That whole Laffer Curve thing…

  39. Larry Ledwick says:

    Agree!
    I think about 3 entire departments should just go away.
    After the tax code is reduced to a post card sized form about 80% of the IRS can go away.

    There should be a limit to the ratio of supervisors to staff as well, govt tends to have way too many mid level management folks because one of the metrics for perceived power and budget is head count.

  40. Larry Ledwick says:

    Impressive pile of paper if Obama’s rules were printed out. He sets all time record for number of rules put in place during his tenure.
    http://www.wnd.com/2016/11/obama-sets-new-record-for-regulations-527-pages-in-1-day/

  41. Gail Combs says:

    Nice to know a lot of people are up to date on the CAGW scam who do not haunt the the climate sceptic blogs.
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/11/12/panic-amid-the-department-of-richard-windsor/comment-page-1/#comments
    (Lots of moaning at the EPA.)
    …………..

    Cornell Students Hold ‘Cry In’ in Response to Trump Win “..Cornell community and faculty members also showed up to the “Cry In” to show their support and mourn along with the students.”
    and
    Adult Students Crying, Cocooning and Coloring Books After Election
    “Colleges and universities across the country are allowing and encouraging their adult students to vent, cry and lament the election results.”

    These colleges expect managers to HIRE these infantile a$$es? If I was still a manager I would be making phone calls to each of these universities to let them know I would NEVER EVER hire anyone who graduated from their school.

    Actually I did quit hiring these cry babies and refused to hire anyone under the age of thirty five. The discipline problem of new graduates wasn’t worth the headache and their skill sets were crap.

    Actually I might make the phone calls anyway. As far as I am concerned every single one of these colleges (and the public K-12 schools) should be sued for not producing adults who are physically, emotionally and mentally ready for the work place while charging the parents/students $$$

  42. Gail Combs says:

    Well I got tossed for linking to the Cornell cry baby stories at B–bart again.

    As a manager I would very much be horrified at stories like these and seriously consider not hiring any recent grads from those schools.

    The comments are interesting.

  43. Gail Combs says:

    Larry Ledwick says:
    “….One way to do that which would be relatively benign would be for Trump to issue a Federal hiring freeze over the entire government or at least key departments and let the slowly die due to attrition….”

    Trump has already said that is what he will do. Now add in investigations into graft, fraud… and with luck the cancelling of the Exc Order that allowed government workers unions, I think you will see a lot of rats jumping ship while the getting is good.

    And yes, cutting whole departments starting with education sounds real good.

  44. E.M.Smith says:

    Interesting… I’ve lost track of what thread, but someone asked if the illegal vote in California were removed, would Trump win the popular vote:

    http://www.pewhispanic.org/2014/11/18/chapter-1-state-unauthorized-immigrant-populations/

    as of 2012 the illegal population was 2.4 million in Calif. It will have gone up since then.

    Call it about 3 million given the time lag and double voting (we have the combo of “motor voter” and drivers licences for illegals with major sanctuary city population areas). That means if about 1 in 3 illegals voted, that’s Hillary’s popular vote margin… WITHOUT counting any other shenanigans in the rest of the USA….

  45. Gail Combs says:

    Yeah, all those life long republicans that started voting democratic after they were dead….

  46. Gail Combs says:

    And just in case you were wondering Obama to Anti-Trump Protesters: Don’t Be Silent Again on B-tbart.

    Thursday in Berlin, at a joint news conference with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, President Barack Obama told the protesters over the victory of President-elect Donald Trump to not “be silent.”

    Obama said, “One of the great things about our democracy is it expresses itself in all sorts of ways. And that includes people protesting. I’ve been the subject of protests during the course of my eight years. And I suspect that there’s not a president in our history that at some point hasn’t been subject to these protests. So I would not advise people would feel strongly or are concerned about some of the issues that have been raised during the course of the campaign, I wouldn’t advise them to be silent. What I would advise, what I advised before the election and what I will continue to advise after the election is that elections matter.”

    “Voting matters,” he continued. “Organizing matters……

    Hey clueless Barry, RIOTERS are not protesters.

  47. Zeke says:

    “Sanctimonious cities” etc.

    There is a scheme to make rural America irrelevant. It did not yet succeed, thank God. But most politicians and businesses believed the demographics and marketing experts.

    This quote is for pg—

    The Obama-era is Over

    By Daniel Greenfield
    “The Obama-era was permanent. It was making history. We were rushing through endless goal posts of social transformation. The military fell. Then the police fell. This was Obama’s America. And, there was no going back. A brief moment of foolishness that already appears odd and awkward. And then one day nostalgic. It wasn’t the future. It’s already past. Now it is history. The Obama-era ends not with a bang but with a whimper. With a national consensus that maybe he didn’t really matter so much after all.”

  48. Gail Combs says:

    I was watching this horse video and it reminded me of Obummer and the Social Justice Warriors. Not only can they not read horses they can not read people either because they have been isolated from real human interaction by ‘politically correct’ child raising methods dumped on America by the Rockefellers. Rockefeller Funding and The Hand That Rocks the Cradle and Rockefeller Funding, John Dewey and Dumbing Down America

    You can see a bit of the warning ‘redneck’ Americans are giving the SJW rioters in this video.

    As a woman all I have to do is say “I feared for my life” and show these videos.

    http://www.infowars.com/shock-video-black-mob-viciously-beats-white-trump-voter/

    Seems more information has come out about about the car in Ferguson who hit the protestor. Guns were involved.

    http://www.infowars.com/multiple-blm-gunmen-shot-at-car-of-black-woman-at-ferguson-protest/

    Actually I am amazed there has not been more of a backlash from Trump supporters. I guess we are waiting until January 20th

  49. pg sharrow says:

    Have no fear Gail. Trump supporters are NOT Rioters. These are serious “Tea Party People” ,real Americans. If really pushed they would self organise, pick up their guns and march to WAR! No silly rioting mob actions for them. This is a real middle class up rising, peaceful and deliberate. The Adults are taking over from the foolish “Collage Boys”. The make believe of the Liberal Socialist philosophy of Tomas More is finished.
    Next the Warlord Cult of Muhammad must be dealt with…pg

  50. Gail Combs says:

    P.G., Yes The Tea Party adults have re-taken the Republican party and are in the process of kicking out the R.A.T.s

    If we were as the Progressives try to portray us there would be massive fighting in the streets but we are, as you say adults and react with sanity. This does not mean we do not react. The Tea Party and then the rise of Trump is that reaction.

    As Sundance continually emphasises COLD Anger.
    Sept 27 2015 Cold Anger

    Oct 24, 2016 COLD ANGER – The Corporate U.S. Media Has Weaponized Against US…

    I wonder just how much influence Sundance has sometimes. For example a commenter posted the PepsiCo SNAFU and the stock drops. Of course there is a lot of interconnection and I think that is why TPTB is now trying censorship on Giggles, Twatter and FacePlant.

  51. Larry Ledwick says:

    That horse video commentary is funny, and also educational.

  52. Gail Combs says:

    OH WOW! Jeff Sessions Accepts Trump’s Offer To Serve As US Attorney General — Hope it is true. Now Rudy Giuliani as special prosecutor on The Clinton’s or maybe Chris Christy and Rudy.
    ……….

    Yes, Larry
    That is a horse video every riding instructor should make students and parents watch. I have spent a huge amount of time trying to get people NOT to hand feed my horses and ponies and trying to get them to see an animal is something other than a person in a costume.

    Pat Parelli and his Natural Horsemanship scam doesn’t help. Most horsemen will not touch a ‘Parelli ‘ trained horse. Even this ‘natural horsemanship person’ see the problem:
    https://www.writingofriding.com/in-the-media/a-problem-with-parelli/

    I have two blind in one eye animals still in use and had two with cataracts. This person is correct. Trust is the key. Only the one horse I did not establish a really strong trusting bond with had a problem with her blindness but she was still easy to handle. She just went bonkers when left alone but her blindness meant we could not keep her with her herd mates because she could not find her food. We finally had to put her down as winter hit and she could not defend her hay.

  53. E.M.Smith says:

    @Gail:

    Like that horse video… as a kid, I had a ‘nack’ for understanding animals. I now see it as understanding their eyes and body language coupled with stong empathy for their POV. I regularly ‘friend’ wild animals given some time. The latest is that we have a nightly ‘possum and raccoon show. There is a bit of ramp up to a shelf just outside the livingroom window. Catfood in a pyrex baking dish… With care and understanding, they now look at us, but don’t leave, even as we walk to the kitchen. I can instead walk toward them and get about 5 feet from the window before they start to leave. They don’t go far, being rapidly back after the dish refill… I got a wild born rabbit to come to me to be petted… took about two years…

    One guy in my old home town didn’t talk well to people. Sensitive and shy, mumbled… but he could get a horse to do anything. Folks with a “problem horse” (which usually means people problems) would hire him to “train the horse”. We talked. (He liked kid me :-) He said he talked to the horse and let it know he understood… I learned some from him. He took one “problem horse” as a gift… and taught it to twirl a lasso in front of it! How? He said he just showed it to the horse a lot (horse had been skittish of ropes, he was making it OK, imho) then gave it the rope to mouth and started asking it to twirl… I watched part of it and it is my oppinion that IS what he did. Body language of a fellow herbivore, being a friend not a bully, bringing comfort, not fear. Then mumbling horse… and letting the horse be master of the rope…

    Folks then had him show off at the fair with his horse that had a lasso…

    I think that is when I first started to learn “animal languages”. Though maybe it started with our dogs and cats… I remember “speaking dog” at about the same age… maybe earlier… (frankly, I can’t really remember a time not speaking dog…)

    @P.G.:

    One telling bit, there are no real warriors in those brat parades. Anyone with decent martial arts training knows you don’t pick a fight you can avoid and you don’t holler that you are upset and going to strike. You quietly withdraw until the only reasonable course of action it to strike or block (“Every block is a strike and every strike is a block. -Sensei”) then you do so, rapidly and without warning.

    The big mistake of The Soros Brigade was mistaking that quiet withdrawl as weakness and submission. It isn’t. Fear the silence, that means a predator is afoot… but I think we have seen it will be ballots not bullets.

    Besides, California just made it illegal to buy ammo without Government permission; thus assuring it will be IEDs and firebombs instead… and creating a huge new criminal enterprise for the drug dealers to use for profit now that pot is legal… So since they will now be transitioning to gun running, ought to be all sorts of interesting stuff smuggled in…

    I’d put a /sarc: tag on that as it is fantastical, except California did pass the law and that will be the result. Sigh. “Intelligence is limited, but stupidity knows no bounds. -E.M.Smith”

  54. Gail Combs says:

    E.M. Like you I can not remember when I could not ‘read an animal’ maybe it is all those Neanderthal genes being expressed — Grin

    Even though Hubby has much more patience than I and is a much better people person he just can’t really read a horse well. I think it is a lack of awareness of the space around you. This means you don’t pick up the non-verbal clues. (I hate phones because of the lack of non-verbal clues.)

    That goes to what this article says.

    “In this study we show that heightened sensitivity to sensory noise – the random signals inserted into the visual tasks traditionally used by scientists to test sensory integration levels in autism – may provide an alternative explanation for impaired performance. When this noise is removed from the equation, the integration of visual motion stimuli in ASD is equal to, or maybe even superior to that of the control group. Moreover, our study demonstrates that the multi-sensory integration seen in autistic participants was comparable to that of the non-autistic control group.”

    Zaidel says that when there were no randomly-moving dots, autistic participants performed well, successfully determining the direction of movement at a level similar to that achieved by the non-ASD control group. When the noisy signals were introduced, however, the ASD group was significantly more affected than controls. This indicates that it is the presence of noise – rather than any innate integration deficit – that makes the task more difficult for people with autism…

    Autism Thinks: Processing Sensory Stimuli vs. Accessing Prior Knowlege

    According to Zaidel, the new study provides support for the idea that people with autism are highly sensitive to incoming sensory information. Moreover, he suggests, they are predisposed toward relying more highly on external stimulation – with less use of prior knowledge – when interpreting the world around them.

    “Our results suggest that people with autism may experience a deficiency in what are known in the scientific literature as Bayesian priors – the ability to draw on existing knowledge to understand what we see and to predict what we will see in the near future,” Zaidel says. “If you’re more heavily weighted toward perceiving the world bottom up – from stimulus to perception – and relying less on rules of thumb from prior knowledge, perception will be both more taxing, and more sensitive to sensory noise.”

    Translated, if you do not expect an animal to act like a human ‘Bayesian priors’ you would be ‘ more sensitive to sensory noise’ or better able to catch subtle non-verbal clues.

    I think it also makes us better ‘outside the box’ problem solvers since we do not ignore ‘noise’

  55. Gail Combs says:

    Holy Crow Batman! I thought these guys were progressives. Guess I was wrong.
    Natural News — MEMO to Trump: Do not waver, and do not compromise; We the People got your back

    And yeah, I read them sometimes esp. when we were fighting NAIS (National Animal ID) and the WTO.

    It is a great Article BTW.

  56. E.M.Smith says:

    It (sensory preference) also means we are much more in touch with what we really see and much less influenced by preconceptions (that are often wrong in neurotypicals IMHO).

    Off to read the link…

  57. E.M.Smith says:

    @Gail:

    Wow… and from a health & vitamin site….

    I think maybe we need a new tag… @u6

    For “at your 6” as in ‘We got your 6″…. to be appended to things pro Trump…

  58. A C Osborn says:

    Gail, really great article.

  59. G. Combs says:

    E.M.
    Unfortunately he (NaturalNews) has fallen for the Gorebull Warbling Hoax but at least has a bit of sense (and therefore might be trainable.)

    REALITY CHECK for environmentalists: Until we achieve clean, renewable energy breakthroughs, the U.S. economy still runs on oil… so EAT YOUR CAR!

  60. G. Combs says:

    I pulled this off the TreeHouse and it look like it might be real
    From a progressive website.
    WWE Political Smackdown: Thread 14

    …Your really good at spreading the hate aren’t you, as a matter of fact it seems that all you have left to do.

    ANY OF YOU, Trumps America is this.. Look what Trumps America is, well what about the OTHER side of that coin…

    Group Yelling ‘You Voted Trump’ Beats Man In Intersection, Steals Car: chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/11/10/police-investigate-a-video-of-trump-voter-being-attacked/

    Blacklivesmatter757
    Yesterday at 8:39am ·
    We really can’t believe #Trump won … I’m encouraging everyone to get in shape and grab a few #firearms for your household , war is imminent.. Partner with your local leaders ( #BlackLivesMatter , #Panthers , etc) its time to #organize and #strategize for when the big day comes. #YouTube survival videos , how to make a #fire , purify #water , etc .. The threat level will be risen once #Obama fully leaves office in January. If you are local and would like to get involved with the movement e.mail BlackLivesMatter757@gmail.com and may God be with us all. #BlackLivesMatter757 #America #NewDay #FightBack #BeTheChange #BeTheVoice #BlackPanthers

    Facebook posts like these are spreading like wildfire and your helping do it, our own ignorance and fear mongering is allowing all this to continue ….
    http://www.imvu.com/catalog/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpbb2&file=viewtopic.php&t=635697&start=825

    Obummer has a lot to answer for with his stirring up racial hate. Of course that is why he was put in the White House, to stir up hate and divide the country so it was easier to take over. I just hope things do not explode before Trump takes office or if they do they are confined to democratic inner cities.

  61. G. Combs says:

    Looks like the SS got one of the idiots threatening Trump on twitter….

    ….Zachary Benson, 24, now faces five years in prison after a series of post-election tweets in which he stated an intent “to assassinate Trump.”
    http://www.infowars.com/man-arrested-for-death-threat-against-president-elect-trump/

  62. G. Combs says:

    ROTFLMAO!
    HARRY REID: ‘REPUBLICAN OPERATIVE’ JAMES COMEY RESPONSIBLE FOR CLINTON LOSS

    Reading between the lines, the DemiRats are trying to make sure Comey doesn’t get the boot. Note that Comey is a Clinton Foundation Donor and a lot of other shady things. FBI Director Comey was a board member of Clinton Foundation connected bank HSBC for example

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/10/exposed-fbi-director-james-comeys-clinton-foundation-connection/

  63. Larry Ledwick says:

    Ironic the director of the FBI was on the board of a bank which assisted money laundering for terrorists and drug cartels.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/afontevecchia/2012/07/16/hsbc-helped-terrorists-iran-mexican-drug-cartels-launder-money-senate-report-says/#6718f96544de

  64. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting view of the probable tactics of the left as Trump takes office and how normal people can oppose them by using their own tactics against them.

    http://www.wnd.com/2016/11/3-battlefield-tactics-for-fighting-soros-revolution/

  65. G. Combs says:

    The Progressives are really getting out of hand. They have the list of electors and are threatening them with violence. So much for a Democratic Republic.

    http://www.infowars.com/anti-trump-protesters-threaten-to-put-a-bullet-in-the-brain-of-michigan-elector/

    backed up by http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/11/17/elector-threats/94003176/

    …Anti-Trump agitators have been emailing electors in red states for over a week in an effort to convince or intimidate them into breaking the law and overturning the outcome of the election.
    22-year-old Michael Banerian, one of Michigan’s 16 Electoral College voters, told the Detroit News that he has received a deluge of hateful messages from leftists, including numerous death threats.

    “I’ve had people talk about shoving a gun in my mouth and blowing my brains out. And I’ve received dozens and dozens of those emails. Even the non-threatening-my-life emails are very aggressive,” said Banerian, adding that he has been labeled a “hateful bigot” by the same people who are violently threatening him.
    The Detroit News verified that in one of the emails, a Hillary supporter vowed to “put a bullet” in his mouth, while Michigan Republican Party spokeswoman Sarah Anderson said that other electors “are also receiving threats”…..

    I really hope these people are rounded-up and tossed in jail for several years and that the electors do not cave-in to the threats.

  66. Cyberzombie says:

    http://thefederalist.com/2016/11/14/election-marks-end-americas-racial-detente/

    Excellent piece. I’d excerpt it if I weren’t on my phone…

  67. Gail Combs says:

    Cyberzombie I think he misses the mark by a mile.

    Take this statement.

    …The clearest example is the Judge Gonzalo Curiel drama. By the rules of the détente, saying a judge cannot fulfill his duties because of his race or nationality counted as a firing offense. Indeed leaders on both the Left and Right assumed Trump could not overcome it.

    But not only did many white voters break the rule of disqualifying a person based on a racist statement, they broke the second rule too. They began to ask why Trump couldn’t say a Mexican judge might be unfair, when we hear all the time about the danger of all white juries and white police officers. The white acceptance of legitimate racial double standards had dissipated, and without it the détente could not stand….

    What actually happened in this case?

    For the first time people could actually investigate and decide for themselves if Trump was correct.

    Should this Judge, Gonzalo Curiel, have recused himself?
    (Actually recusal has been a central issue in this election in a number of instances given the background of Comey and Lynch among others.)

    Did Trump have grounds to expect this judge to recuse himself? The answer is yes and it has nothing to do with his race but with his affiliations.

    I wrote this at the time (when Trump supporters had the crap beaten out of them by La Raza supporters)
    ………..

    Trump elevated the question of a particular activist-connected public official’s (Judge Curiel) potential lack of impartiality in the immediate aftermath of the blatant partisanship of two other connected public officials (San Jose mayor and police chief).

    The latters’ bias led to the well-televised violent and physical assaults of innocent rally attenders by thugs, some of who were seen throwing gang signs. The nation’s right, center (and some moderate progressives) were outraged by what they saw. So when Trump raises the spectre of Judge Curiel’s potential bias in the Trump U case, it resonates as a very reasonable concern in light of the judge’s affiliations.

    San Jose Police Chief Who Admits ALLOWING ATTACKS on Trump Supporters is Affiliated With La Raza“…, San Jose police Chief Eddie Garcia insisted that it was more important for police to hold their “skirmish line” formations than to stop individual attacks…”

    Here is the police holding their “skirmish line” formation in RIOT GEAR to protect a concrete wall.

    “…He also said the 250 police weren’t enough to control the roughly 400 protesters.”

    In addition the San Jose Mayor has openly admitted to approving the San Jose police departments plans. link and blamed Donald Trump for having the audacity to have a rally in “his city“.

    Although police wittnessed violence against Trump supporters nothing was done. Only when the violence was directed at the police did they act to stop it. The only arrests made are those who attacked police. The police were in riot gear with a ratio of one cop to every 2 to 3 terrorists thugs.

    According to the FBI’s website, the mayor, police chief, along with all the police officers who stood by and watched the violence, are guilty of multiple color of law/criminal civil rights violations under 18 USC 242. Also, see 42 USC 14141: http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cid/civilrights/color.htm

    As an old NAZI-supremacy group advocating the genocide of Americans and resettlement of North America with south of the border illegals, La Raza clearly falls under these statutes.
    This is the intention of La Raza:

    They explicitly intend to remove or kill all people not of “The Race” in this area. Here is the extent to which they have achieved infiltration of these areas.

    Note the fact that the La Raza Lawyers Association links to the National Council of La Raza on their websites “community” section and it has very few such links. And Gonzalo Curiel is an active member of the La Raza Lawyers Association who defends the illegal aliens who Trump is planning on deporting.”
    ……

    What really happened is whites have decided they do not own slaves, they are not members of the KKK, they never acted racist and after a couple generations of Affirmative action and Obama’s race baiting we have had ENOUGH of being second class citizens and decided to tossed the battered wife syndrome.
    Racial détente had nothing to do with it because it WASN’T détente it was genuine color blindness. Where whites marry blacks, oriental and hispanics and I see mixed black/white/hispanic/oriental parties every weekend IN THE SOUTHERN STATE of NC. The election of a black president was SUPPOSED to be the official end of the problems.

    So what happened? Whites got BULLIED by the president, the liberal press and any black who felt like screaming in your face for no reason and certainly did. We watched Black Lives Matters given a free pass to destroy our cities, block our highways and kill our law enforcement officers.

    And yes, during these last eight years I got D@mn sick and tired of getting screamed at because some @sshole with a chip on their shoulder decided to have a temper tantrum all over me, whether they were black or some spoiled rotten SJW Unfortunately as a business person I could not defend myself but I could certainly vote for the guy who killed Political Correctness.

    Racism had NOTHING to do with Trump’s election. The globalists backing American patriots into a corner threatening not only our sovereign nation but our very national identity like they are doing in the EU was the reason.

  68. Gail Combs says:

    Stefan Molyneux explains the real crisis facing the USA that most of us at least unconsciously understood.

    The Truth About America’s Survival | Demographics and the 2016 Election

  69. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting article on the process of politics (getting and keeping power and the effect of media manipulation of the public)

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-19/were-being-played

    Video linked to in the article which quickly explains the game of power (thrones as it were) in governments and other human organizations.

  70. Larry Ledwick says:

    The minions of chaos are plotting their next move, so don’t think the next Presidential term will go unopposed by the Progressive Left. Looks like we are in for a street fight.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/obama-loyalists-trump-resistance-231642

  71. E.M.Smith says:

    @Gail:

    Per Hispanics:

    Do note that the bulk of all Hispanics have zero interest in La Raza. They, like everyone else, just want a decent life in a free land. Make a free land with prosperity in a Spanish Speaking country and they would rather live there.

    I know this as my ‘formative years’ were spent 1/2 in a Mexican home. My BF was a Mexican Kid and he spent about 1/2 his time at my house so drinks tea with his pinky out… I like lots of salsa on my taco salad… They spoke mostly Spanish at home, so I grew up with some of it too. As he hung out with other Mexicans, I often tagged along as the “token white guy”. (Very white… that red-head gene made me stand out clearly…) I know this culture, and it isn’t a bad one. Different, yes. Has some bad aspects? Yes. More than ours?… probably not.

    Now what is happening to all those Hispanics as they come here? Are they forming Spanish Only and La Raza Dominated enclaves? Um, no. They do like to cluster together (as does everyone) in common language areas, but they slowly diffuse into the fabric of America as all groups have done (other than the Muslims who are way clannish… so far…) Examples?

    My son has married a 1/2 Puerto Rican lady. (So her Dutch mom married a guy from Puerto Rico… who looks to me to be about 1/2 to 3/4 European and 1/4 ‘something else’). This means my grandson will be part of your “Hispanic Invasion Map!!&!!@!” despite being, roughly, 1/4 Dutch, 1/4 “English” (where English is itself something of a mix), 1/8 or so Amish German, 1/8 or so Irish, 1/4 “Puerto Rican” (where Puerto Rican is itself a mix of somethings) and about 1/4 “who knows what ’cause we lost count” but including at least some known French & a long tail of “something likely Germanic but who knows” back to my 1700s Blacksmith Immigrant ancestor in Virginia who got off some unknown boat but gave me the Smith name…

    I will be encouraging him to check “Hispanic” on the ethnic I.D. as that will get him favored treatment. I suspect a lot of that happens.

    Frankly, had I known I could wangle it (and if they didn’t look at my English / Irish stereotypical look too closely…) I’d have marked it on college admission:
    https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2012/09/22/im-hispanic-who-knew/

    Second example:

    My Niece married a guy named ‘Rico’. Nice cowboy kid from my rural farm town. Liked the hat and boots I think. Part Italian, with that dark hair and strong face kind of look. Nobody really paid much attention to ancestry (still don’t). Somewhere along the line it came out that “Rico” was a nickname for something like Ricardo and he was some percentage (between 25% and 50%?) Hispanic (not clear if Spain, Puerto Rico, Mexico, further south…). So 1/2 of my 2 Sisters grandkids can claim being “Hispanic” for the goodies (and are encouraged to do so…) despite being roughly 1/4 Viking (nor sure if Norse or Swedes or…) 1/8 English/ Irish mix, 1/4 Italian, and ? Hispanic and other… IFF you got special treatment for checking the English or Viking box, they would be those instead… ( The other sister’s kid is part Native American, despite his blond hair and blue eyes, and his blond wife… his kids can check the Native American box. His Dad had a bit of “Indian Look” and was documented as descended from some tribe, with mixing… so it’s all very legit).

    The point of this? ALL my parents grandkids are “Hispanic or Indians”… 100% of them. (Well, the other niece has some kids where I’m not really sure what they are and haven’t asked, but they look to me like a bit of Hispanic in there… The Hispanic guys really go for the red hair…)

    Now it’s only about 12% each of the mix, but hey, as long as it gets them the check box…

    Also note that this means the Hispanics are dissolving into America. Just like the English and the Irish and the Italians and…

    BTW Again: This also ignores totally that Hispanic is itself a large grab bag of peoples. Millions of Italians and English and Germans emigrated to Argentina and other Latin countries. (IIRC Italian dominates the Argentine makeup with English a close second. Their Mennonite colonies are going to be close relatives of my Amish roots.) Brazil is largely Portuguese (with admixtures of Native Americans and Blacks and some other Europeans). Repeat all across Latin America.

    So “good luck” finding a “race” in all that mush.

    As a language aside: I’ll be brushing up my Spanish as the kids want to raise their son bi-lingual and I’ve encouraged them that bilingual school is too tough if you don’t have it bilingual in the home. I grew up ‘sort of bilingual’ and it isn’t hard, but can be an effort at times, and works best if you have it around both at home and ‘in the world’. IMHO Spanish is one of the more reasonable languages. My order of preference is: English, French, Spanish, Latin, others. I’ve yet to get good at Latin, but I can see the benefits from here…( I’ve looked at at least 50 different languages ‘in some depth’ – meaning grammar and lexicon and such – so this isn’t just bias based on what I’ve studied. I’ve also had formal classes in German and Russian and used Japanese for some things…) I find nothing in Spanish that’s problematic for thinking other than that all those gender markings are a PITA. The “music” of French is something I prefer, so that’s why it ranks ahead of Spanish despite the PITA spelling… English, being cleaned of gender markings and streamlined of case inflection is faster to think in than the Indo-European base in some cases, so I generally like it more. Latin is attractive simply because what I have learned of it “just fits” tidy thinking patterns…

  72. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting article in the Guardian, first for its objective content (rational leftists saw Trump coming years ago) because the Left was going down a road which got a bit too over impressed with their successes and a bit careless about taking care of the folks who were not in lock step with their agenda. (ie forgot to take care of some of their key holders – see video above)

    In short they forgot that they were a minority of the body politic and could only hold the support of the indecisive center for as long as they were not seen as the enemy of the needs of the center. Virtue signaling is only useful to maintain support as long as it does not hit the indecisive center in the wallet or offend their sensibilities.

    Second the little block at the bottom of the page pleading for money/support from free citizen journalists exposes that they are getting hurt by the lack of appeal to the center in their journalism.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/19/donald-trump-us-election-prediction-richard-rorty

  73. E.M.Smith says:

    @Larry:

    From that Politico article there are many threads to pull, but this one caught my eye:

    Over the past 10 years, Obama alumni have spread throughout the government, the advocacy world, and influential parts of the private sector, including at Google and Facebook. That means there’s a lot diverse talent to harness.

    Just confirming to me that there was a seeding effort to put True Believers in positions of influence AND that Google and Facebook are “the opposition”…

    FWIW, I now have the google search engine redirected to duckduckgo in my DNS server… I’ve also “grounded” several of their (pernicious) ad services and tracking URLs. There’s still more to do, though. It’s a lot of crap. I need to get the IDS running to get a full list of what all is bouncing out of my network back to them…

  74. Larry Ledwick says:

    On the race thing – As you mention EM all immigrant groups eventually merge into the population as a whole, but strongly clan/family focused groups do so a bit or a lot slower. From a practical percent likely to use point of view, Spanish is my first choice as a second language. We had Spanish in grade school and Junior High but quite frankly the instruction was terrible (barely bi-lingual teachers) teaching formal Spanish to white kids who almost never ran into folks who were non-functional in English.
    I learned just enough Spanish to pick up an occasional word and catch the sense of a Spanish conversation “some times!”

    Recently I have been trying to get back to at least the most basic conversational Spanish, how to say hello and maybe comment on the weather etc. One of my co-workers grew up in Guatemala and is very fluent in both Spanish and English and he has been supportive, but just 2 weeks ago the janitorial service changed in my building and the new crew is composed of an older woman who is barely bi-lingual (native Spanish – limited English) and her daughter who is bi-lingual but not quite fluent in English (sometimes pauses to think of the proper word usage or to understand what I said but functional). When the new crew was introduced by the old crew leader, I realized immediately the elder was essentially Spanish only as the former janitorial lead was speaking to her exclusively in spanish and I introduced myself as Lorenzo (Larry) and greeted her in Spanish when she came in (which was about the limit of my useful Spanish)

    [Como esta usted? bien y tu?]
    Using google translate I let her know I was very weak in Spanish but was trying to learn and she has started tutoring me one phrase at a time. I will try to say something, she will furrow her brow maybe ask her daughter then correct me with the proper way to say what I was trying to say, even force me to repeat it a couple times until I get it right.

    She is genuinely pleased that I am trying and treating her as an equal, and one sentence/thought at a time teaching me basic conversational Spanish.

    My biggest challenge right now is teaching my ears to hear some of the sounds in Spanish that are different than their corresponding English sounds such as B and V sounding almost identical.
    Last night they were in, it was snowing and icy here so I first commented on the weather.

    Como esta usted hace frio a noche!
    She smiled and responded, I then tried to communicate that she should take care getting home because the roads were slick.
    I failed miserably at that and with the help of her daughter she finally understood what I meant.

    It will take a while to get my “spanish ear” tuned up and get enough natural vocabulary to actually communicate beyond simple set phrases.

    On Gail’s comments about La Raza, they have been an issue here in the west for decades the hard core La Raza members are quite radical (even violent in some cases) – we had a rash of bombings here in Denver in the late 1960’s early 1970’s as Corky Gonzales and his fellow travelers took on a bit of the weather underground style of protest. Bad news is they were not very good at it, and kept blowing themselves up, but they still have a presence in the west / south west and with a bit of encouragement could become an issue as the reconquista movement gains more traction in the radical hispanic community that does not want to become Americans, but rather wants America to become Mexico.

  75. Larry Ledwick says:

    Oh goody, George Soros is funding this it appears.

  76. Larry Ledwick says:

    On the other side of the agenda we have this :
    http://dcwhispers.com/boom-donald-trump-just-defeated-barack-obamas-illegal-executive-order-amnesty/

    Now the question is, why are they dropping the defense of the amnesty?

    Are they finally convinced they can’t make it work, or are they shifting to the above American spring sort of strategy of going all Chicago 68 on us?

  77. Larry Ledwick says:

    I was reading an item on Mark Zuckerberg talking about countering “fake news”, and got to thinking about how effective such tags can be, I think from now on I will refer to the traditional media as “shillnews”

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-facebook-idUSKBN13E0QN

  78. Gail Combs says:

    E.M. I consider Hispanics to be my best customers and really enjoy the Fiestas and Fiestas de cumpleaños we are invited to as entertainment. (We no longer do muslim parties because of contract breach problems in 100% of the cases.)

    What I was trying to get across was the Judge was extremely prejudice due to his Hispanic history.
    #1. His parents were both illegals (and with out amnesty he would technically be an illegal.)
    #2. Not only the Judge’s connection to La Raza, but his work ‘protecting the rights’ of illegals at the border would make him anti-Trump.
    #3. Last the actions he had already taken. The original plaintiff was found to have given glowing praise of Trump University on the internet so Trump’s lawyers moved to have the case dismissed. Instead of dismissing the case the Judge directed the plaintiffs lawyers to go out and find OTHER PLAINTIFFS!
    ……………..

    We have zero idea of whether Trump had expanded on what he said about the judge and we know the MSM repeatedly uses words/sentences out of context to smear ‘enemies’ whenever possible.
    …………….

    La Raza is working very hard to ‘radicalize’ Hispanics just as Turkish charter schools and Saudi Arabia trained clerics in American mosques are working very hard to ‘radicalize’ American muslims. As Americans we can not protect our country if we do not recognize the ‘traitors domestic.’ As current events prove it only takes a hand full of terrorists to wreck havoc. From various intelligence agencies plus as the Syrian ambassador to India said over 20% of refugees to Europe have links to ISIS. Obama has been importing them and scattering them throughout the USA while others are coming in through the southern border.

    We already know the Hispanic drug cartels and the muslim terrorists are in cahoots.

    …Now Khabir trains thousands of men—mostly Syrians and Yemenis—to fight in an ISIS base situated in the Mexico-U.S. border region near Ciudad Juárez, the intelligence gathered by JW’s source reveals. Staking out U.S. targets is not difficult and Khabir actually brags in an Italian newspaper article published last week that the border region is so open that he “could get in with a handful of men, and kill thousands of people in Texas or in Arizona in the space of a few hours.” Foreign Affairs Secretary Claudia Ruiz, Mexico’s top diplomat, says in the article that she doesn’t understand why the Obama administration and the U.S. media are “culpably neglecting this phenomenon,” adding that “this new wave of fundamentalism could have nasty surprises in store for the United States.”….
    link

    This Is MEXICO Trump not Welcome

    Check out the schools and read about what they’re taught in their “chicano studies” — to invade and weaken US to “take back their Mexico”

    …Conference on March 15 – 18, 2001, the official “MEChA Philosophy” was ratified. An excerpt from the document states: “as Mechistas, we vow to work for the liberation of Aztlan.”

    The MEChA Clubs on each of the Santa Barbara high school campuses are not the only ones. MEChA groups exist on 90 percent of the public high school, college and university campuses in the Southwestern United States.
    http://www.mayorno.com/WhoIsMecha.html

    The La Raza goal is based on getting back the territory that Mexico lost & the US paid for after the Mexican-American War. Therefore it should be considered a Terrorist organization since it openly advocates the violent overthrow of US rule of law and occupation of United States territory with the ultimate intent of sedition. That is the real La Raza, which receives federal funds. 30 million in CA alone.

    “Chicano is our identity; it defines who we are as people. It rejects the notion that we…should assimilate into the Anglo-American melting pot…Aztlan was the legendary homeland of the Aztecas … It became synonymous with the vast territories of the Southwest, brutally stolen from a Mexican people marginalized and betrayed by the hostile custodians of the Manifest Destiny.” (Statement on University of Oregon MEChA Website, Jan. 3, 2006)

    We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlan. For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada.”

    http://clubs.arizona.edu/~mecha/pages/ElPlanDeAtzlan.html
    That closing two-sentence motto is chilling to everyone who values equal rights for all. For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada. translates to “For The Race everything. Outside The Race, nothing.”
    http://humanevents.com/2006/04/07/emexclusive-emthe-truth-about-la-raza/

  79. Gail Combs says:

    E.M. Larry, On Spanish as a language, I am hopeless. I have learns some useful phrases for the business and at the local, mostly Spanish speaking flea market they help correct me and try to teach me new phrases. Hubby has a great ear for language and has picked up much more than I have. His accent is very good and they all think he speaks the language.

    Again, I have zero problem with the Hispanics and find them a hard working people. I DO have a problem with La Raza and more of a problem with our tra1torous government actually funding it.

    I also recognize Hispanics are closer to us in ideology and will assimilate where muslims will mostly not as Jeff and others have pointed out.

    The directive to never have a non-muslim as a friend kinda makes it hard to assimilate. My Grandfather did by becoming a Christian.
    This has since been removed from the internet (So what else is new) It is in both Arabic with an English translation I am not sure the Arabic will show.

    “The Tuqyah [practice of deception, lying or concealment for expediency]
    is allowed until the Day of Resurrection.” Allah said,

    [وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللَّهُ نَفْسَهُ]

    The Prohibition of Supporting the Disbelievers

    Allah prohibited His believing servants from becoming supporters of the disbelievers, or to take them as comrades with whom they develop friendships,rather than the believers. Allah warned against such behavior when He said,

    [وَمَن يَفْعَلْ ذَلِكَ فَلَيْسَ مِنَ اللَّهِ فِي شَىْءٍ]

    (And whoever does that, will never be helped by Allah in any way) meaning, whoever commits this act that Allah has prohibited, then Allah will discard him. Similarly, Allah said,

    [يأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ لاَ تَتَّخِذُواْ عَدُوِّى وَعَدُوَّكُمْ أَوْلِيَآءَ تُلْقُونَ إِلَيْهِمْ بِالْمَوَدَّةِ]

    (O you who believe! Take not My enemies and your enemies as friends, showing affection towards them), until,

    [وَمَن يَفْعَلْهُ مِنكُمْ فَقَدْ ضَلَّ سَوَآءَ السَّبِيلِ]

    Allah said next,

    [إِلاَ أَن تَتَّقُواْ مِنْهُمْ تُقَـةً]

    (unless you indeed fear a danger from them) meaning, except those believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers. In this case, such believers are allowed to show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly. For instance, Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Ad-Darda’ said, “We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them.” Al-Bukhari said that Al-Hasan said, “The Tuqyah is allowed until the Day of Resurrection.” Allah said,

    [وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللَّهُ نَفْسَهُ]

    (And Allah warns you against Himself.) meaning, He warns you against His anger and the severe torment He prepared for those who give their support to His enemies, and those who have enmity with His friends,

    [وَإِلَى اللَّهِ الْمَصِيرُ]

    Allah encourages the believers to show enmity to the idolators and to dissociate from them, affirming that they do not deserve to enjoy a covenant of peace, because of their Shirk in Allah and disbelief in Allah’s Messenger .

    If these disbelievers have a chance to defeat Muslims, they will cause great mischief, leave nothing unharmed, disregard the ties of kinship and the sanctity of their vows. `Ali bin Abi Talhah, `Ikrimah and Al-`Awfi narrated that Ibn `Abbas said, “Ill means kinship, while, Dhimmah means covenant.” Ad-Dahhak and As-Suddi said similarly.

    [اشْتَرَوْاْ بِـَايَـتِ اللَّهِ ثَمَنًا قَلِيلاً فَصَدُّواْ عَن سَبِيلِهِ إِنَّهُمْ سَآءَ مَا كَانُواْ يَعْمَلُونَ – لاَ يَرْقُبُونَ فِى مُؤْمِنٍ إِلاًّ وَلاَ ذِمَّةً وَأُوْلَـئِكَ هُمُ الْمُعْتَدُونَ – فَإِن تَابُواْ وَأَقَامُواْ الصَّلَوةَ وَءاتَوُاْ الزَّكَوةَ فَإِخْوَانُكُمْ فِي الدِّينِ وَنُفَصِّلُ الاٌّيَـتِ لِقَوْمٍ يَعْلَمُونَ ]

    Allah says, if the idolators with whom you conducted peace treaties for an appointed term break

    [أَيْمَـنِهِمْ]

    (their oaths) meaning, terms of their treaties, and covenants

    [وَطَعَنُواْ فِى دِينِكُمْ]

    (and attack your religion…) with disapproval and criticism, it is because of this that one who curses the Messenger, peace be upon him, or attacks the religion of Islam by way of criticism and disapproval, they are to be fought. This is why Allah said afterwards,

    [فَقَـتِلُواْ أَئِمَّةَ الْكُفْرِ إِنَّهُمْ لاَ أَيْمَـنَ لَهُمْ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَنتَهُونَ]

    Therefore, strike the swords upon the parts that contain the devil, for by Allah, it is better to me to kill one of these people than to kill seventy other men. This is because Allah said,

    [فَقَـتِلُواْ أَئِمَّةَ الْكُفْرِ]

    (then fight (you) against the leaders of disbelief.)”

    [أَلاَ تُقَـتِلُونَ قَوْماً نَّكَثُواْ أَيْمَـنَهُمْ وَهَمُّواْ بِإِخْرَاجِ الرَّسُولِ وَهُم بَدَءُوكُمْ أَوَّلَ مَرَّةٍ أَتَخْشَوْنَهُمْ فَاللَّهُ أَحَقُّ أَن تَخْشَوْهُ إِن كُنتُم مُّؤُمِنِينَ – قَـتِلُوهُمْ يُعَذِّبْهُمُ اللَّهُ بِأَيْدِيكُمْ وَيُخْزِهِمْ وَيَنْصُرْكُمْ عَلَيْهِمْ وَيَشْفِ صُدُورَ قَوْمٍ مُّؤْمِنِينَ – وَيُذْهِبْ غَيْظَ قُلُوبِهِمْ وَيَتُوبُ اللَّهُ عَلَى مَن يَشَآءُ وَاللَّهُ عَلِيمٌ حَكِيمٌ ]

    http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=3&tid=8052

    That page is dead so try this one: http://web.archive.org/web/20050509022725/http://tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=3&tid=8052

    (It is not the same though)

  80. Gail Combs says:

    Actually Larry, just like ‘Deplorables’ the alternate media are already grabbing ‘Fake News’ and running with it only they are applying it to the MSM. — ROTFLMAO!
    ………………

    On the Soros issue, as EM said “The big mistake of The Soros Brigade was mistaking that quiet withdrawl as weakness and submission. It isn’t. Fear the silence, that means a predator is afoot… “

    Now think about that.
    1. Hillary could barely get a few hundred to her rallies without bribes.
    2. The SJW, La Raza, BLM and other rabid activists are really just a small fringe group with a bunch of easily led beta male and weepy snowflake students tossed in. Most of these people are NOT well trained and most are paid so their heart is NOT in it. It is the muslim jihadists I would worry about.
    ………….

    On the Trump side:
    #1. You have Rolling Thunder who are mainly military vets. “Rolling Thunder is a United States advocacy group that seeks to bring full accountability for prisoners of war and missing in action service members of all U.S. wars.”

    2 MILLION BIKERS RALLY INTO WASHINGTON, DC Remembering 9/11 (FULL) 9/11/13

    There is nothing on their calender for 2017 yet, but then I would not expect them to tip their hand.

    #2. The NRA has about 5 million members.

    #3. Roger Stone and Alex Jones are already organizing for people to attend Donald Trump’s Presidential inauguration and they have a large multimillion person reach.

    #4. If Steve Pieczenik is on the up and up, there are many many Trump fans in the rank and file of the alphabet security agencies. So expect a YUGE number to volunteer to help keep the peace.

    #5. Most rank and file law enforcement are pro-Trump. So again expect a YUGE number to volunteer to help keep the peace.

    To put it bluntly, given the number of people WITH TRAINING on the other side, it was really really stupid to tip their hands. And dress in black?? Give me a break! Thanks for making it easy to tell the sides apart.

    Suggestion: If you are going WEAR RED!

    Oh and if I was the media, I would be really really worried. Tomatoes and rotten eggs do not help delicate camera and sound equipment and they have already declared themselves combatants not disinterested observers.

  81. pg sharrow says:

    “The Bronze People” think that they can “reclaim” the southwest!
    Twice before that was tried with a blind eye from the Mexican government and once by the Mexican government and failed due to application of American steel. Must we go to the Halls of Montezuma again! If raids from Mexican soil are allowed by their government it will not go well for Mexico…pg

  82. Gail Combs says:

    RAH, one of my favorite commenters at Tony Heller’s had this very appropriate cartoon.

    That is the one to send to all your liberal friends, liberal Congresscritters and the MSM… (WITHOUT A RETURN ADDRESS)

  83. pg sharrow says:

    @Gail; :-) Lol…pg

  84. Jeff says:

    @Gail: great Bloom County cartoon. Make the libs’ heads spin by telling them Milo is helping the Major to hunt liberals :) (from Bloom County to Breitbart…).

  85. E.M.Smith says:

    @Gail:

    Then there are the folks ‘like me’ that are not NRA but are keeping heads down… I’d multiply that NRA number by 3 or 4…

    Like that cartoon…

    But: I’d not suggest throwing tomatoes, that’s attacking with a projectile and likely assault.

    Oh, but do be careful when applying a touchup bit of hairspray. An accidental miss and overshoot can really gum up things…

  86. G. Combs says:

    I like the idea of hair spray…. I am only about 300 miles away but I will leave the push, shove, sitting in lines and traffic jams to others.

    And as a GDI (independent) I don’t join groups. I figure NRA is the LAST place you want to be listed if you are paranoid about the government.

  87. Another Ian says:

    From an email

    “FOX NEWS HAS REPORTED THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS ALREADY ACQUIRED MOST OF THE MATERIAL NEEDED TO BUILD THE WALL BETWEEN MEXICO AND THE USA THANKS TO ALL THE FOLKS THAT SHIT A BRICK WHEN THEY HEARD THAT HE HAD WON THE PRESIDENCY…….!!!!!!!!”

  88. Gail Combs says:

    Calling for a blackout of the Communist News Network (CNN)

  89. Gail Combs says:

    And the final INSULT by the Obomination.
    VA’s greatest hits: Old Glory is going to jail

    … he[Obama] was perfectly aware that on December 1, our veterans are going to be tried on charges of displaying “a placard” – that is, American flag…..

    For several months, our veterans were harassed by VA police, who “confiscated the evidence” –the American flag – and then dragged them to court on idiotic charges as many as 15 times….

    Since names of veterans in their seventies and eighties who would rather go to prison than leave a homeless veteran and American flag behind were not mentioned, let me do the honors:

    Robert Rosebrock, our 73-year old Vietnam-era Army veteran, a tireless and Pattonesque homeless veterans’ rights advocate, has been criminally charged with “Display Placards, Post Material on Bulletin Boards.”

    Dave Culmer, an 84-year old, our Marine hero: Korean and Vietnam War, proudly displayed American flag, and had it disrespectfully and illegally confiscated by VA police. Our Marine received falsified arrest citation for “displaying a placard.”

    Last but not the least: Ted Hayes, known also as Mr.Patriot, internationally (but not nationally!) respected civil rights activist and homeless veterans’ rights advocate – cited by VA police for displaying American flag.

    I won’t comment on photos where smiling VA policemen leave their “to protect and serve”-embellished cars to mistreat our most honorable, elderly veterans and fold the “confiscated” Old Glory like a rag….

    More on the issue: VA Police After Me Again

  90. Gail Combs says:

    Democrats lords of Chaos and Violence

  91. Gail Combs says:

    “The officials’ attempt to get on Trump’s good side by staying in his hotel “looks like a gift,” …

    “the message that diplomats can earn the favour of the new president by staying in his hotels has already been received, and it can’t exactly be unsaid”.

    ThinkProgress argues that this would breach the Constitution’s Emoluments Clause, which states that federal officials may only do business with foreign government if they do not receive “special treatment”, Prof Painter said.

    Harvard Professor of Constitutional Laurence Tribe weighted in on Twitter, backing the ThinkProgress analysis….”

    He has been sequestered at Trump tower since becoming President-elect so any “schmoozing with diplomats at his swanky hotel.” was done as a BUSINESSMAN and not as an elected official. Trump also met with the president of Mexico and others.

    His businesses are turned over to his adult children, but nice try. Of course millions given for speeches and as ‘donations’ to the Clinton Foundation in return for access to the Sec. of State is NOT…..

    If they try to run with this they will have to impeach the entire government since ALL government employees turn active operations over to a trust or family members or sell once in office.

    This is just fodder for those who know nothing about legal procedure.
    Here is the ethics for a senator
    http://www.ethics.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/conflictsofinterest

    This is the only part and it is a stretch….

    General Principles

    No law, regulation, or Senate rule specifically prohibits the spouse of a Senate Member or employee from engaging in any outside employment because it could create a conflict of interest with the official’s Senate duties. However, because Members and employees are prohibited from using their official positions to financially benefit themselves and their immediate families, it is important for officials to consult with the Committee regarding their specific circumstances.

    I am sure that Trump’s fleet of lawyers have picked this one over with a fine tooth comb.

  92. Larry Ledwick says:

    Especially given the exposure the Left has, this is a can of worms that they don’t want to open.
    Nancy Pelosi and her husband’s insider trading?
    Chelsea Clinton receiving secret info from her mom on Greece when her husband runs a fund that specializes in Greece?

    etc. etc.

  93. Gail Combs says:

    Larry, it is even funnier than that.
    The article cites Think Progress for legal expert. (snicker)
    Think Progress is owned by ‎Center for American Progress Action Fund whose CEO is Neera Tanden. She worked for the Obama and Clinton administrations and for Hillary Clinton’s campaigns.

    AND she worked for Podesta who used to head ‎Center for American Progress and is really good friends with him.

    New York Times:
    …Most of the stolen emails were exchanges between her and Mr. Podesta, her former boss at the Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank that Ms. Tanden now leads. Mr. Podesta is a longtime friend, and Ms. Tanden’s tone is often that of a colleague grousing in the break room….
    (wwwDOT)nytimes.com/2016/10/30/us/politics/neera-tanden-wikileaks.html?_r=0

    The chances are they are ALL going to be up to their necks in a swamp full of alligators by the end of January.

    Sundance explains their problem here: Lobbyists and Big Donors Shut Out From Trump Administration – DC Trembling…

    My biggest concern is RAT RINO RYAN as third in line as Speaker of the House.

  94. Gail Combs says:

    I already linked to a couple of Philip Haney articles at Breitbart. In the first link Haney writes

    on October 15, 2009, I was ordered by DHS to ‘modify’ linking information in about 820 subject records in the Treasury Enforcement Communications System, or “TECS records” to remove ‘unauthorized references to terrorism.’ I was further ordered not to input any more Memoranda of Information Received, or MOIRs, to create no more TECS records, and to do no further research on the topics I was exploring….

    So by the Spring of 2010, we had come to the point that a CBP Officer was literally removing information connecting the dots on individuals with ties to known terror-linked groups from TECS, while the Administration was bringing the same individuals into positions of influence, to help create and implement our counter-terror policy, in the context of actual terror attacks taking place.

    On August 30, 2011, the DHS Chief Council approved a project I initiated looking into Islamic fundamentalist group Tablighi Jamaat (TJ). On November 15, 2011, I began a temporary duty assignment at the National Targeting Center (NTC). A short time later, I was assigned to the Advanced Targeting Team, where I worked exclusively on the TJ Project, which was quickly upgraded to a global-level case.

    On March 15, 2012, seven lawyers and three senior executive service (SES) administrators met with management personnel at the NTC to express concern for our focus on TJ, because it is not a designated terrorist group, and therefore the project might be “discriminating” against its members because they are Muslim. On June-July, 2012, the TJ Initiative was ‘taken in another direction,’ (i.e. shut down). The Administration took this action despite the fact that [1] in nine months, we had conducted 1,200 law enforcement actions, [2] I was formally commended for finding 300 individuals with possible connections to terrorism, and [3] 25% of the individuals in Guantanamo Bay had known links to Tablighi Jamaat…..
    http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/07/06/willful-blindness/

    This is where it gets really really hot for Obummer, the Clintons, and all their hangers on.

    Declaration of War: Ten Years Later

    …The United States is at war—and has been, continuously, for ten years. This is a reality, of course. But more than that, it is a legality. Legally—constitutionally—the United States has been in a condition of declared war for ten years.

    On September 18, 2001, Congress enacted into law, and President George W. Bush signed, what is arguably the broadest declaration of war in our nation’s history….

    “Whereas on September 11, 2001, acts of treacherous violence were committed against the United States,” begins the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF),

    The President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations, or persons.

    Constitutionally, the 9-18-01 Act is a Declaration of War.

    Via Cornell Law School.
    18 U.S. Code § 2381 – Tre@son

    Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of tre@son and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

    (The article has links to the statues that I did not put in.)

  95. Gail Combs says:

    OH LOVELY!
    copied from Lindenlee
    …………..
    According to the DOJ rules for executive clemency, Hillary does not qualify for a pardon, to wit (https://www.justice.gov/pardon/rules-governing-petitions-executive-clemency):
    1) She must submit an application through a pardon attorney, Obama can’t just write this on a napkin. It must be a legal filing.
    2) She may only be pardoned for federal crimes, no others.
    3) HERE’S THE HUMDINGER… SHE MUST HAVE BEEN CONFINED FOR A MINIMUM OF FIVE YEARS PRIOR TO APPLYING FOR A PARDON: “Under the Department’s rules governing petitions for executive clemency, 28 C.F.R. §§ 1.1 et seq., an applicant must satisfy a minimum waiting period of five years before he becomes eligible to apply for a presidential pardon of his federal conviction. The waiting period, which is designed to afford the petitioner a reasonable period of time in which to demonstrate an ability to lead a responsible, productive and law-abiding life, begins on the date of the petitioner’s release from confinement.
    4) She must file all her financial records, and
    5) No family member can give her a character witness.

    If these conditions IN EXISTING LAW are not met, then the pardon can be deemed invalid, and back to prison she goes. Trump can use EXISTING LAW to lock her up, and invalidate anything that Obama can do….
    …….

    And the noose gets tighter…

    And tighter…
    “The Congressional Review Act” which was passed by Newt Gingrich in 1996 to prevent outgoing presidents from trashing the nation upon exit will give Donald Trump – with the cooperation of Congress – the ability to nullify every law and agreement made by Obama in the last six months of his “presidency”. Once nullified, the laws can never be proposed again.
    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/11/littlenoticed_law_gives_trump_unexpected_power_to_undo_the_mischief_of_bureaucrats_.html

  96. Larry Ledwick says:

    For those with a short memory or who get their news from the comedy channel.

    http://dailysignal.com/2016/11/21/in-2006-these-democrats-still-in-office-voted-to-build-a-wall/

  97. A C Osborn says:

    Larry Ledwick says: 21 November 2016 at 5:40 pm

    There you go confusing the poor little darlings with unpleasant facts.
    It is a good job us deplorables have stronger stomachs LOL.

  98. A C Osborn says:

    Gail, you are building up a brilliant case there, but I just can’t see the USA and the rest of the world being that lucky.
    They are sure to wriggle out of it somehow.

    Do you know if a President Elect has a Secret Service Detail?

  99. Gail Combs says:

    Obama says Berlin and Germany are the best model for society….

  100. H.R. says:

    @AC
    After their conventions, the nominees are given USSS protection.

  101. Gail Combs says:

    ACK, didn’t finish the above. that comes from: President Obama Discusses Globalist Earthquake and Plans for Future Political Tectonic Shifts… with videos of Obummer and Merkel.

  102. A C Osborn says:

    Yes an outgoing President dissing his own country, very patriotic. Typical of the man.

  103. @HR @A.C. Pretty sure Trump’s security detail is also there…two layers…

  104. Larry Ledwick says:

    Given the tendency to push false narratives, some background on recent reports of an increase in alleged hate crimes against Muslims. Many being false flag “crimes” actually performed by Muslim activists to inflate the numbers of reported attacks.

    http://counterjihad.com/saudi-sponsored-report-grossly-inflates-u-s-muslim-hate-crimes

  105. Gail Combs says:

    What I am most worried about besides assassination is the pressure put upon electorates.

    Voters target Electoral College members to switch their Trump ballots, elect Clinton

    Over 2 Million Hillary Supporters Sign Petition to Overturn Election Results

    Detroit News: Michigan electors cite threats over Trump vote Michael Banerian, the elector in this article, is only 22 years old…

    Electoral voters ‘deluged’ with death threats in multiple states

    ….BuzzFeed reported Thursday that the #NotMyPresident Alliance, a national anti-Donald Trump protest group, has released the personal information of dozens of Electoral College members in states that voted Republican.

    A spreadsheet distributed to supporters Wednesday included the electors’ personal phone numbers, addresses, religions, races, genders and candidate preference.

    The group hopes its members and citizens around the country will contact electors and pressure them to change their vote from Trump….

    Most worrying:

    Clinton-backers are targeting roughly 160 Republican electorates in the 15 states that Trump won and don’t have laws bounding the electorates to the winner: Arizona, Arkansas, Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Texas, Utah and West Virginia.

    The upside:
    WHY HILLARY CLINTON CANNOT STEAL THE ELECTION FROM TRUMP – HOW THE CONSTITUTION AND TRUMP’S LANDSLIDE ELECTORAL VOTES WOULD STOP ANY STEALING!

    ….After the Dec. 19 vote of the Electoral College meeting in the individual states, the ballots are counted and the results are transmitted to a joint session of Congress which is held on Jan. 6th. So, Congress knows the results of the Electoral College vote from Dec. 19 on.

    When Congress meets in joint session, it is usually a mere formality of accepting the votes of the states. So, in alphabetical order, the state results are presented. If there is an objection to the results – for example if election fraud was alleged, or coercion of an elector was alleged – this is the time when that is decided: Members of Congress can object to any state’s vote count, provided the objection is presented in writing and is signed by at least one member of each house of Congress.

    Then Congress would immediately adjourn its joint session and return to their individual chambers to debate and vote on each objection. After that vote, the joint session would be resumed.
    If the objection is rejected, then that state’s vote count stands as presented to Congress.
    By this means, the entire deliberative weight of both houses of Congress can be thrown at any issue that may violate the sanctity of the vote for President and Vice President of the United States of America. Yes, Congress would actually decide.

    And since the new Congress will still have a Republican majority in both houses, the ultimate outcome will – without question – be that Donald Trump will be declared the official winner of the 2016 election on that day….

    In the podesta e-mail (emailid/3599) dated 2016-03-13 17:06 from Bill Ivey, Ivey says

    …I’m certain the poll-directed insiders are sure things will default to policy as soon as the conventions are over, but I think not. And as I’ve mentioned, we’ve all been quite content to demean government, drop civics and in general conspire to produce an unaware and compliant citizenry. The unawareness remains strong but compliance is obviously fading rapidly. This problem demands some serious, serious thinking – and not just poll driven, demographically-inspired messaging….

    I am very afraid the ‘civics’ lesson administered in December and January, ESPECIALLY if enough electors turn traitor to ‘elect’ Hitlery is going to make the current riots look like a walk in the park.

    Give the scope of the problem, perhaps Trump will need to activate the mythical temporary tent cities/FEMA camps for the detention and jailing of all the subversives for the next decade or two. He can always put Joe Arpaio in charge of a new Tent City jail in the desert southwest. (GRIN)

    These subversives and snowflakes need a good hard SLAP of reality and I really really hope several college profs get caught red handed in the organizing of demonstrations/riots.

    So far they have had protected status but no more.

  106. Larry Ledwick says:

    And Trump got in the face of all the major media players today with a good old fashioned behind the wood pile discussion about their ethics and way of doing business.

    http://nypost.com/2016/11/21/donald-trumps-media-summit-was-a-f-ing-firing-squad/

  107. Jeff says:

    The media probably felt like this (deservedly so):

  108. Larry Ledwick says:

    Or this:

  109. Gail Combs says:

    Larry, Talk about an @$$ whooping….

    Did these idiot progressives actually think he was going to lie down and let them walk all over them?

    This deserves another Cartoon by A.F. Branco (He has a calender out for all those progressives on your Christmas list that you want to drive crazy.)

  110. Gail Combs says:

    Oh, My

    it just sunk in…
    “…Donald Trump scolded media big shots during an off-the-record Trump Tower sitdown on Monday, sources told The Post…..”
    The media FLUNKED the test of their honor and trust worthyness….

    GOOD going you idiots!

  111. Larry Ledwick says:

    What was funny to me is that after reading them the riot act, he put out a public announcement via web video that totally bypassed the major media and went directly to the people (or as we say in the navy a shot across the bow). If they don’t play fair and act like responsible journalists, he will just ignore them.

    Maybe we should reinstate the concept of the riot act for protesters.
    http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/what-it-actually-means-to-read-the-riot-act-to-someone

  112. Gail Combs says:

    I just read the article on Steve Bannon and noted this at the bottom:

    “An Author’s Plea to Trump: Denounce the Hate or We Stand Against You” link

    They really don’t understand us do they?

    And they are too idiotic to understand they are being played.

    If you keep poking a bear for years on end it will eventually turn and chew your head off. The progressives via Obummer and P.C. have been abusing the middle class for years and now the progressives with their demonstrations and screaming and riots and temper tantrums just keep on poking the bear. Why are they SOOOoooo surprised when the cold anger turns hot, when the patience wears thin and someone finally yells back at them?

  113. Larry Ledwick says:

    Some observations on the true legacy of Obama and the progressive Democratic party of the last 8+ years, pushing national identity politics rather than policy of governance.

    http://observer.com/2016/11/americas-emerging-nationalism-crisis/

  114. E.M.Smith says:

    @Gail:

    Also lost on them is the profound irony when they say (at the semantic core) ~”Stop the hate speech or we will hate you” or shouting hateful things while ‘denouncing hate’…

  115. G. Combs says:

    Agreed, And to show just how much these idiots miss the mark.

    NOTE MAKING FUN OF BUTT-HURT LEFTISTS DEEMED A “HATE CRIME”
    Message that read “suck it up, pussies!” investigated by Wisconsin police

    Yet death threats against Trump and the electoral college is ignorred, at least by the media.

    Isn’t it a wee bit ridiculous for the police to get involved in play ground taunting?

  116. A C Osborn says:

    Gail, we have not seen anything about the demonstration/riots in the UK MSM, are they still going on?

  117. Gail Combs says:

    Larry Ledwick says: “Some observations on the true legacy of Obama and the progressive Democratic party of the last 8+ years….”

    ….The GOP has changed, only their leaders seem not to have noticed. The Republicans are now the White party, de facto, whether they want to be or not. American politics will never be the same, and 2016 looks like a landmark election in the manner of 1980, 1932, or 1860, each of which transformed the United States. Buckle up, it looks to be a bumpy ride ahead in the emerging era of competing American ethno-nationalisms…..

    They STILL don’t get IT! We need Diamond and Silk (love those ladies from down the street) to take the idiots behind the woodshed and learnem.

    OH< they already did!

    For the record, we and Donald Trump have point blank TOLD these people and TOLD them it is about American Patriotism vs the Globalist Elite and has ZERO to do with color or anything else. However to save whatever shreds of their Progressive agenda that they can, they have to keep gaslighting the public into thinking it is about White Supremacy and hate.

    When the author says “Trump is no political genius.” he again misses the entire ballpark. Lets just hope they keep underestimating Trump. They still do not get the fact Trump is an Alpha Male, a highly intelligent fast learner and a born leader.

  118. Gail Combs says:

    The UK got rid of the Riot Act in 1967 however we, backward colonist that we are, still have ‘Read the Riot Act’ in the USA….

    10 U.S. Code § 334 – Proclamation to disperse
    Whenever the President considers it necessary to use the militia or the armed forces under this chapter, he shall, by proclamation, immediately order the insurgents to disperse and retire peaceably to their abodes within a limited time.
    (Aug. 10, 1956, ch. 1041, 70A Stat. 16; Pub. L. 109–364, div. A, title X, § 1076(a)(2), Oct. 17, 2006, 120 Stat. 2405; Pub. L. 110–181, div. A, title X, § 1068(a)(2), Jan. 28, 2008, 122 Stat. 325.)
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/334

  119. Gail Combs says:

    A C Osborn,
    It is Thanksgiving week here in the USA. Many people are on their way to family get togethers and that includes all the students/young idiots who were protesting so it will probably be quiet except for possible massive protests to disrupt the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade in New York City.

    Or worse a terrorist attack.

    A reassuring message from the Police Department after the Islamic State called the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade an “excellent target. New Yorkers Told Not to Fear ISIS Attack at Thanksgiving Day Parade: NYPD

    …An online edition of an ISIS English-language magazine Rumiyah published a photo of the parade with instructions on how to cause the most fatalities, according to a New York Post report on Sunday.

    But Miller said the police department began preparing for a potential terrorist attack at the parade long before the magazine published the call to its readers.

    “This is not something that occurred to us over the weekend,” said Miller. “This is something we have factored into planning in years past.”…

  120. G. Combs says:

    On the “media big shots during an off-the-record Trump…” meeting Gov. Huckabee gives them a subtle slap at 15 min 10 sec.

  121. G. Combs says:

    Trump’s message right after press whoopa$$ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xX_KaStFT8

  122. E.M.Smith says:

    @Gail:

    You have made my day…

    At the 2 minute mark, Trump says he’s going to investigate visa system abuse that hurts american workers… I take that to be H1b visas and related. Yea! Maybe we can get back to a technical staff that doesn’t require ESL class and practical Hindi ideom to understend them…

    (I have nothing against the Indian guys. Their work ethic is good and generally they are an above 50 percentile group, besides, they know where the best Indian restaurants are…; but really, with the unemployed and wage stress in this country, to outsource the good jobs of the future to any foreign land or group is governmental criminal malfeasance. Open trade schools here for our citizens. Saying we don’t have the needed talent is a flat out lie. I, for one, am available, and was ready to hire on at Disney when Disney outsourced their I.T. to a company bringing in loads of H1b visa guys. I know because I worked with the folks at that company during that time and ‘we talked’. Many in my building had to train their replacements. I didn’t, but only because my contract ended a couple of weeks before the outsource and shutdown announcement).

  123. pg sharrow says:

    Back when I had a company that provided services to Silicone Valley, I would get “Come ons” for training seminars for my HR people to train them on how to write Help Wanted requirements so only H1b visa holders would qualify. Holders that they would supply at no extra cost, do all the paper work for and at an employment cost greatly below the cost of domestic labour.
    Had to say no thanks…………………. Small company, Me, Myself and I were the only employees so hard to replace. ;-) …pg

  124. pg sharrow says:

    @EMSmith; “Open trade schools here for our citizens. Saying we don’t have the needed talent is a flat out lie. I, for one, am available,”

    Be careful about what you wish for. :-) …pg

  125. Jon K says:

    Love this cartoon. I wish I could figure out how to post it directly in the comment…

    [ Reply: Click your link, click on the picture (may need right click and choose “open image” depending on your system) copy THAT url, paste into comment. (Some browsers prune the http: part out so you may need to add it back) -E.M.Smith ]

  126. Larry Ledwick says:

    New York Times is finally responding to the Pizza gate controversy.
    Seems interesting that it took this long to do that, not sure if they are not paying attention or it took that long for everyone to delete their emails and change signs on businesses.

    I have not had time to dig through this yet (work) but will be interesting to see how the story gets painted (ie what gets ignored, what red herring or straw men are used and what they focus on or more importantly the exact way they choose to frame some arguments.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/technology/fact-check-this-pizzeria-is-not-a-child-trafficking-site.html

  127. Larry Ledwick says:

    A C Osborn says:
    22 November 2016 at 6:58 pm

    Everyone, this is very bad news if true.

    I suspect it is a strategic move to keep from goading Obama into issuing a pardon for her prior to his departure. I don’t think he said he would instruct the FBI and Attorney General not to pursue the case so might be leaving it open for them to decide if when and how.

  128. Larry Ledwick says:

    More on above Trump is not taking investigations off the table.
    http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/11/22/conway-says-trump-does-not-plan-pursue-clinton-charges

  129. E.M.Smith says:

    FYI IF Trump pushed for a prosecutor, I think it runs afoul of some laws (or at least customary DOJ independence and non-politicizing). I doubt his beliefs have changed, just the context…

  130. G. Combs says:

    Larry,
    I too think the Trump’s remarks about not going after Clinton is a head fake for a couple of reasons.

    First he doesn’t want to divide the country more at least at this time and wants his picks through Congress and to consolidate his position. Therefore he can let the private e-mail server bit slide at least for now. HOWEVER that does not mean he has to ignore anything new that walks in the door like pedophile ring, human trafficing, tre@son…. Remember he is in NYC where the Anthony Weiner case is being investigated. Who knows what info has walked in the door.

    Second Trump has already said he will not tell the enemy his plans. And I think that is the bottom line. As Trump said in one of the debates when asked what his plans about ISIS were, Why should I tell the enemy exactly what my plan is.”

    Third is an interesting bit Sundance just dug out.

    Shadow Fight – Angst Within Obama Admin as Intel Community White Hats Align w/ Trump…

    Those who enjoy the deep weeds of politics, especially White Hat/Black Hat intrigue, will find this Reuters Story popcorn worthy.

    The Back Story – ….Admiral Michael Rogers met with President-Elect Trump, somewhat quietly, last week (Thursday).

    It has been reported that Admiral Rogers did not inform his “superiors” of the meeting with President-Elect Trump. President Obama is out of the country. Def Sec Ash Carter and DNI Chair James Clapper, both loyalists to President Obama, do not necessarily align with Admiral Rogers (they would also be the “superiors” per se’).

    …..the current Pentagon (Ash Carter), and DNI (Clapper), are recommending President Obama to deliver Admiral Michael Rogers a quick exit.

    Therefore, Occam’s Razor might indicate the black hats (admin loyalists) need space and time to, well, carry out a bit of ‘bleachbiting‘; nudge-nudge-wink-wink-say-no-more. A lot of black hat insider stuff can be facilitated in 60 days, especially w/ holiday breaks, if white hat leadership is absent….

    There is also discussion about Kellyanne Conway Interview Morning Joe…

    Lots of chatter today about Donald Trump comments surround Hillary Clinton prosecution vs non-prosecution etc. as congress is pondering further investigation into personal email issues.

    To concern voices I would remind: #1) Consider the source of information. #2) Who is more valuable to have as SoS. [tamp down] and AG. #3) The email Clinton issue is “less than” – Remember, it’s the foundation… two Clinton captures are better than one… follow the money…

    In the comments among die hard Trump supports you get:
    “‘Trump says no when asked if he is taking investigations off the table for Clintons but adds he doesn’t want to hurt the Clintons’. (Ny Times Maggie Haberman tweet from Trump meeting.)
    Pretty much what he said a couple of weeks ago.

    With the response.
    “Well not one article today about Sessions and Bannon being racists. Looks like Trump changed the topic again.”

    And

    “So what do you want. Trump to come out and say Hillary will be in Guantanamo. I am deporting all 20 million illegals. I am banning all muslims in the first 100 days. He first needs to take office and get his cabinet picks in place and pass his legislation. Right now he cannot put a stop to the riots and his supports being attacked so why make it worse. He knows his supporters will not go out and riot over this….”

    ……………………
    Conway came out and said he softened his stance on immigration too. Then Trump came out with a updated plan that of you read it carefully you will see we will have no illegals here in two years.
    …………..
    ….why does he continue to allow Conway to speak for him?

    Response
    Think of Yoda from Star Wars. She is out there deflecting and misdirecting the crap. I believe this is all planned in advance. Trump keeps them off kilter. I refuse to get anxious about any of this until about next April. Get in there, get the high level appointees in place and get some of the first 100 days agenda under our belt.

    I think these people, who have faithfully watched every rally, followed Trump’s every move, are reading this correctly. The Progressives, believing their own propaganda, still think of Trump as some brain dead jumped up blue collar billionaire and not the savvy strategist he actually is.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>

    This is one of the Trump picks he needs to get through Congress:

    Secretary of Defense? Donald Trump Meeting With General James Mad Dog Mattis…

    Sounds like just the guy we need.

  131. G. Combs says:

    E.M.
    Hubby, who has found no real work in IT for over 20 years, said the same thing as did many of our customers who were in IT. Research Triangle Park in NC now has a high % of Indian, Pakistani, Asian IT and medical types.

    It is all part of the reason for Bill Clinton’s sabotage of the Unemployment Stats so we KNOW this was all pre-planned. There was even a 2005 World Trade Organization Report that point blank said they expected the transfer of millions of American jobs overseas and talked of IT as one of the job categories along with manufacturing. The gutting of the USA was carefully planned and no accident starting with the hostile takeover, leveraged buyout of American owned WEALTHY mid-sized corporations in the 1980s. After those hostile takeovers the entire company-worker dynamics changed from ‘one big family’ to people are interchangeable cogs so find the lowest cost. The name even changed from Personnel to Human Resources.**

    Trump maybe characterized as rude, crude and socially unacceptable but he understands how America’s middle class was gutted and hopefully how to remedy the situation. He also knew how to put that knowledge in simple terms so the blue collar workers understood. That is why, no matter what mud was flung at him, his supporters shrugged and kept on recruiting every one they met. For exampIe, I towed two neighbors to the polls and those two had 1. big mouths and 2. LOTS of relatives in the area.
    …………………..
    *Note the date of the name change/philosophy change….

    From personnel to human resource management

    HRM-type themes, including ‘human capital theory’ and ‘human asset accounting’ can be found in literature dating as far back as the 1970s. But the modern view of human resource management first gained prominence in 1981 with its introduction on the prestigious MBA course at Harvard Business School. The Harvard MBA provided a blueprint for many other courses throughout North America and the rest of the world, making its interpretation of HRM particularly influential (Beer et al, 1984; Guest, 1987; Poole, 1990). Simultaneously, other interpretations were being developed in Michigan and New York.

    These ideas spread to other countries in the 1980s and 1990s, particularly Australia, New Zealand, parts of northern Europe – especially the UK, Ireland and Scandinavia – and also South and South-East Asia and South Africa. Today, the HRM approach is influential in many parts of the world….

    The more you dig the more strings you find.

  132. G. Combs says:

    GallopingCamel,
    Another reason to get schools back under local control. Parents complained repeatedly about this School Bus Driver’s behavior.

    Report – School Bus Driver: “Y’all ready to die”…
    Do not miss this Comment and this Comment.

    Local news story:
    Chattanooga crash survivors tell mom the school bus driver asked if they were ready to die
    Sure sounds to me like MURDER 1 and not ” vehicular homicide, reckless endangerment, and reckless driving ‘

    Photos. Note it was a flat residential street and not a winding mountain road. How in Hades do you wrap a school bus around a tree like that when doing 30 MPH. Luckily there is a Black Box and ‘Tennessee has and actively uses the death penalty.’
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3960898/Father-injured-kids-says-s-seen-bus-driver-reckless-before.html

    I hope this and the other stories in the comments allow a major push to get rid of the *&^%# Teacher’s Union. We need to be able to FIRE bad actors.

  133. G. Combs says:

    Interesting detail about the above brought up in comments. Seems the contract company is out of Illinois which has Ban-the Box. So this guy who killed the school kids could have had a record that Tennessee would not know about.

    Illinois Passes Ban-the-Box Legislation Limiting Employers’ Criminal Background Checks on Applicants

  134. G. Combs says:

    Durham, based in Warrenville, Illinois, operates about 13,700 vehicles around the U.S. and has nearly as many drivers, according to the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration. It had a “satisfactory” safety rating from the agency in July 2015.

    The company has had 346 crashes over two years, including three resulting in deaths and 142 with injuries, federal figures show. During that period, it had 53 incidents involving unsafe driving violations. http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/latest-news/article116366828.html#storylink=cpy

    Safety Measurement System
    https://csa.fmcsa.dot.gov/about/basics.aspx

    A lot of that can be finessed. Simply telling your drivers WHEN the drug test will be done is one way. The company is responsible for training and rating. Again that can be finessed easily. Vehicle Maintenance can be out sourced or done by an inhouse mechanic and not the driver.

    “Crash Indicator — Histories or patterns of high crash involvement, including frequency and severity. It is based on information from State-reported crashes.” You just fire the drivers involved and hire new ones.
    (I have been through this.)

    Actually given the number of vehicles, they are not doing to badly on the safety issue. I imagine that Affirmative action has a large part to play.

  135. G. Combs says:

  136. Larry Ledwick says:

    It looks like Reddit pulled the plug on the pizzagate thread

    http://wearechange.org/breaking-reddit-bans-pizzagate-sub-reddit/

  137. Jeff says:

    “346 crashes over two years” doesn’t sound insignificant to me. Also the fact that transportation is outsourced, although common anymore, is troubling.

    Local employees, from a local company, make for much more accountability. The drivers likely know the kids and their families (or vice versa), and could effectively be ridden out of town on a rail (so to speak) if things went wrong. Each level of “indirection” removes the inherent accountability and feeling of responsibility of the parties involved. The echoes of “not my job, man” still ring in my ears 40 years on. Granted, there are many upstanding, reliable, hard-working, honest, and caring drivers for these companies. But there are also many who might not share those traits, and, due to the various levels of outsourcing and “black-boxing”, could get away with murder, as in this case.

    Color me old-fashioned, but even ONE life is too many to lose.

  138. Larry Ledwick says:

    Looks like not all of it has been dissappeared yet.
    This link still works – I assume the reddit crews are busy archiving or long ago anticipated this move and have backups of much of the info.

  139. Larry Ledwick says:

    Well so much for using code tags to just have a cut and paste text link without making it as an active href link

  140. Jeff says:

    @Larry; somehow I think (from the various sites I’ve seen, vigilant citizen, cutting edge, et. al.) that this isn’t just a can of worms; it’s at least a 55-gallon drum. Lots of swamp to be drained there (and rightfully so). Royalty, prominent people, politicians in both parties, etc. It appears that the information is mirrored in a lot of places, and it has been covered quite well by the “fifth estate” as the author of your article put it.

    I hope and pray that justice is served. The children and other victims deserve no less…

  141. G. Combs says:

    Larry, one of the links I ran into showed the Reddit Kids moved to their own website with Pizzagate but were P.O.ed they lost a lot of the research that was up on Reddit. When I get back on the other computer I will see if I have the URL.

    This is NOT going to go away.
    I am wondering if Mike’s meeting with Trump while Obummer was out of town was sneakernet….

  142. Larry Ledwick says:

    Is anyone surprised that almost all the so called Trump supporter bullying and intimidation/violence is really agent provocateurs fabricating events to serve their agenda?

    http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/north-park-fabricated-notes-402556366.html

  143. G. Combs says:

    good speech by Dinesh D’Souza just after election.
    He talks of Civil War at ~30 mins.
    Political Correctnes ~ 1 hr

  144. Paul Hanlon says:

    I think the President-elect has taken a tactical retreat, so that he can focus on other things. Saw Anderson Cooper on CNN last night and there were two screaming SJW’s on about the fear that has been put on them. Utterly puke-making. The two conservatives on the show barely got a word in and were constantly interrupted.

    I was a bit concerned to see him backtrack slightly on climate change, but a person can only fight so many battles. Sticking to his guns on that achieves three things. It significantly reduces the number of lobbyists, it focuses the EPA to concentrate on air and water quality and significantly reduce costs, and it frees money to spend on infrastructure. There’s talk of another decline as interest rates go up, and infrastructure proects will keep people working, like the New Deal.

    Most of the losses in the stock market happened in the second leg down during the Great Depression. All that the QE has achieved is to kick the can further down the road. At some point the piper must be paid. The good thing is he knows this already.

  145. G. Combs says:

    Paul a comment from the TreeHouse. Unfortunately no “link to the transcript of Trump’s interview with the NYT.”

    Here is a link to the transcript of Trump’s interview with the NYT.
    Here are some things that I take from it:

    1) He makes the point by referencing KAC that HE makes the decisions. Got her to concur. Wonder if she got chastened a little.

    2) After what he said, VERY POINTEDLY, about Ayotte and Heck, I would be ASTONISHED if Romney got appointed dog-catcher. Went after Graham as well.

    3) Seems to me that Mattis is a shoo-in.

    4) I think people whining about Trump’s statements regarding climate change have either NOT read the transcript or are concern trolls. EVERY TIME the NYT came at him on this subject, he not only said he had an open mind but counter-punched with skeptical arguments. EVERYTIME. What do people want him to do, just sit in there and be obnoxious?

    5) Even on the Clinton investigations, it is clear he finds it all distasteful, a major distraction from his priorities and something he would rather not do but it is CLEAR that the investigation is STILL on the table.

    Read more. Think more.

    Remember Trump is a top negotiator. Scott Adam’s of Dilbert cartoons calls him a Master Persuader. Trump’s favorite past time is reading contracts so he is very precise in how he uses words.
    Will he keep an open mind?
    I should certainly hope so!
    I do not want a close minded President and Trump’s ability to take new info in and change when needed is one of the reasons why I voted for him. BTW Is int that THE charateristic you want in a scientist or boss?

    As far as Clinton goes It will be Jeff Sessions/NYPD who deals with the Clintons. If even 1/2 the stuff I think is out there is true Sessions is going to be a buzy buzy boy.

    Sessions and Flynn are both Climate Change Skeptics too.

  146. G. Combs says:

    Here is the link. It was further down.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/23/us/politics/trump-new-york-times-interview-transcript.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=b-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

    On Clinton:

    TRUMP: Well, there was a report that somebody said that I’m not enthused about it. Look, I want to move forward, I don’t want to move back. And I don’t want to hurt the Clintons. I really don’t.

    She went through a lot. And suffered greatly in many different ways. And I am not looking to hurt them at all The campaign was vicious. They say it was the most vicious primary and the most vicious campaign. I guess, added together, it was definitely the most vicious;…. [Translation. I am not being vindictive.]

    … I think we have to get the focus of the country into looking forward…..

    MATTHEW PURDY, deputy managing editor: So you’re definitively taking that off the table? The investigation?

    TRUMP: No, but the question was asked.

    PURDY: About the emails and the foundation?

    TRUMP: No, no, but it’s just not something that I feel very strongly about. I feel very strongly about health care. I feel very strongly about an immigration bill that I think even the people in this room can be happy. You know, you’ve been talking about immigration bills for 50 years and nothing’s ever happened.

    I feel very strongly about an immigration bill that’s fair and just and a lot of other things….

    The election is over and done and Trump wants to move forward. He also talks about how very divided the country is and that this is a major concern of his. So from his point of view bashing the Clintons is counter productive. This is why he talked to Cruz and Mitt Romney IMHO.

    TRUMP:….No, I want to bring the country together. It’s very important to me. We’re in a very divided country. In many ways divided….

    Notice in the following how he plays this reporter. He clearly says the investigation is NOT off the table. Below he finishes with “Yeah, I think they’d understand very completely.”

    This is especially with Suundance and the TreeHouse and others around to dissect what he actually said. It has become very obvious that a Trump team member reads the blog and comments because they have grabbed ideas, word for word, and run with them the next day. Klen’s Deplorable poster is another example. If needed they can always post as a commenter like the guy above did to keep everyone aware.

    CAROLYN RYAN, senior editor for politics: Do you think it would disappoint your supporters who seemed very animated by the idea of accountability in the Clintons? What would you say to them? [Note she misses what he said above.]

    TRUMP: I don’t think they will be disappointed. I think I will explain it, that we have to, in many ways save our country.

    Because our country’s really in bad, big trouble. We have a lot of trouble. A lot of problems. And one of the big problems, I talk about, divisiveness. I think that a lot of people will appreciate … I’m not doing it for that reason. I’m doing it because it’s time to go in a different direction….

    Yeah, I think they’d understand very completely.

    So he got one message out to his supporters that the investigation is NOT OFF THE TABLE but he does not want to focus on it because the MSM/globalists will use it to whip up divisiveness/ riots. Trump is going to allow the Rule of Law and step out of the situation completely and concentrate on healing the divisions Obummer has worked so hard to create.

  147. G. Combs says:

    Global Warming

    THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN, opinion columnist: Mr. President-elect, can I ask a question? One of the issues that you actually were very careful not to speak about during the campaign, and haven’t spoken about yet, is one very near and dear to my heart, the whole issue of climate change, the Paris agreement, how you’ll approach it….. But it’s really important to me, and I think to a lot of our readers, to know where you’re going to go with this. I don’t think anyone objects to, you know, doing all forms of energy. But are you going to take America out of the world’s lead of confronting climate change?

    TRUMP: I’m looking at it very closely, Tom. I’ll tell you what. I have an open mind to it. We’re going to look very carefully. It’s one issue that’s interesting because there are few things where there’s more division than climate change. You don’t tend to hear this, but there are people on the other side of that issue who are, think, don’t even …

    SULZBERGER: We do hear it.

    FRIEDMAN: I was on ‘Squawk Box’ with Joe Kernen this morning, so I got an earful of it.

    TRUMP: Joe is one of them. But a lot of smart people disagree with you. I have a very open mind. And I’m going to study a lot of the things that happened on it and we’re going to look at it very carefully. But I have an open mind.

    SULZBERGER: Well, since we’re living on an island, sir, I want to thank you for having an open mind. We saw what these storms are now doing, right? We’ve seen it personally. Straight up.

    FRIEDMAN: But you have an open mind on this?

    TRUMP: I do have an open mind. And we’ve had storms always, Arthur.

    SULZBERGER: Not like this.

    TRUMP: You know the hottest day ever was in 1890-something, 98. You know, you can make lots of cases for different views. I have a totally open mind.

    My uncle was for 35 years a professor at M.I.T. He was a great engineer, scientist. He was a great guy. And he was … a long time ago, he had feelings — this was a long time ago — he had feelings on this subject. It’s a very complex subject. I’m not sure anybody is ever going to really know. I know we have, they say they have science on one side but then they also have those horrible emails that were sent between the scientists. Where was that, in Geneva or wherever five years ago? Terrible. Where they got caught, you know, so you see that and you say, what’s this all about. I absolutely have an open mind. I will tell you this: Clean air is vitally important. Clean water, crystal clean water is vitally important. Safety is vitally important.

    ……Sometimes I’ll say I’m actually an environmentalist and people will smile in some cases and other people that know me understand that’s true. Open mind.

    JAMES BENNET, editorial page editor: When you say an open mind, you mean you’re just not sure whether human activity causes climate change? Do you think human activity is or isn’t connected?

    TRUMP: I think right now … well, I think there is some connectivity. There is some, something. It depends on how much. It also depends on how much it’s going to cost our companies. You have to understand, our companies are noncompetitive right now….
    [a lot more on loss of factories]

    SHEAR: Just one quick clarification on the climate change, do you intend to, as you said, pull out of the Paris Climate …

    TRUMP: I’m going to take a look at it.

    SHEAR [interrupts]: And if the reaction from foreign leaders is to slap tariffs on American goods to offset the carbon that the United States had pledged to reduce, is that O.K. with you? And then the second question is on your sort of mixing of your global business interests and the presidency. There’s already, even just in the 10, two weeks you’ve been president-elect, instances where you’ve met with your Indian business partners …

    TRUMP: Sure.

    SHEAR: You’ve talked about the impact of the wind farms on your golf course. People, experts who are lawyers and ethics experts, say that all of that is totally inappropriate, so I guess the question for you is, what do you see as the appropriate structure for keeping those two things separate, and are there any lines that you think you won’t want to cross once you’re in the White House?

    TRUMP: O.K. First of all, on countries. I think that countries will not do that to us. I don’t think if they’re run by a person that understands leadership and negotiation they’re in no position to do that to us, no matter what I do. They’re in no position to do that to us, and that won’t happen, but I’m going to take a look at it. A very serious look. I want to also see how much this is costing, you know, what’s the cost to it, and I’ll be talking to you folks in the not-too-distant future about it, having to do with what just took place….

    At that point they go round and round on his golf courses and wind mills and dead birds and is he selling his company and conflict of interest…. That is one LONG transcript!

    From what I am reading, I think Trump will do exactly what he said. Keep an open mind. And as we all know we have the data on our side and a lot of people who have that data.

    Don’t forget Donald Trump announced Myron Ebell of the Competitive Enterprise Institute will head up the EPA transition team.

    http://realclimatescience.com/2016/11/fantastic-judgement-by-donald-trump/

    Ebell is a ‘luke warmer’ https://cei.org/content/how-trump-can-reverse-obama-climate-change-regulations

    ALWAYS remember that at this point Trump is trying to undo the damage done to this country and he is only a president and not a king.

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  149. Larry Ledwick says:

    The other thing that the left fails to see, is that Trump loves to trigger them with shiny things that makes them go nuts, its like throwing meat to the dog to get him to stop barking at the squirrels.
    They think they have him on some issue then he says “never mind” and leaves them standing there wondering what happened to their hot issue. All the while they are burning up their credibility and displaying how little they actually know.

    They get some source that says xyz and beat it to death for 5 news cycles then Trump announces that xyz was never under consideration (look everybody these folks have no clue what they are talking about) then he announces that abc is the actual answer to show that they were deep in left field while he hit a bunt down the base line.

  150. Paul Hanlon says:

    Gail,

    Thank you so much for the link to the transcript. I should have dug deeper before commenting. The only news station I get that I can be sure to get news about Trump is CNN, and they really haven’t learned anything. All I was getting was a whole lot of crowing about him “flip-flopping” on Hillary and Climate Change. Awful.

    After reading the transcript, I can see that that is not what happened at all. All he has done is just toned down the rhetoric a bit, but the message is exactly the same as before, at least as I understand it. He has his priorities absolutely right in my view. And yes, he knows a lot more about the climate issue than he’s pretending. He even got across the point about windmills killing birds.

    What also came across is that he’s really serious about uniting America. Very impressive. I’ll say it again, I think he’s going to be a great President. There was an off the record conversation before the on the record one, and also another one about what he was going to do about Syria during the interview. Boy, I’d have liked to have been a fly on the wall for those.

    Another thing I would say is that Kelly-Anne Conway has been phenomenal. I saw a Youtube video where she was being interviewed in one of the places where she used to work, and the things they said to her were excruciatingly awful, but she still managed to keep her dignity. Another interview, she was asked how does she live with herself. An absolute phenomenon. I just hope that working with someone who works 20 hours a day, and raising 4 children doesn’t get too much for her. She’s looking a little tired lately. He needs her.

  151. E.M.Smith says:

    @Paul:

    Looks to me like she could use a long holiday weekend off and a nap while full of turkey and dressing… ;-)

    BTW, lots of internet TV News links here:

    https://chiefio.wordpress.com/tv/

  152. Gail Combs says:

    Paul Hanlon,
    I have been reading a lot over at the ConservativeTreeHouse (CTH). They are a lot more politically savvy than I. If I find something interesting in the comments I mention it here. I figure it helps to have someone slogging through the 200 to a 1000+ comments for the gold nuggets in all the dross. I park them here so they do not get lost.

    The latest is about Nikki Haley, the SC governor that bowed to the screaming left SJWs and removed the Confederate flag. She is generally considered a complete snake who never supported Trump.

    He has nominated her as UN Ambassador. Lots of screaming at CTH until cooler heads pointed out.
    1. She has to obey Trump.
    2. Trump dislikes the UN and will reduce their influence to near zero.
    4. Token woman, non-white Indian (Hindu?) and GOPe Never Trumper (political good will)
    3. It removes her from SC gov. and promote a guy he likes to gov. giving McMasters a shoe in as SC gov in the next election.

    Now the Angst is over the snake Mitt Romney possibly getting Sec of State.

    Given 4 years of Hillary followed by 4 years of Kerry, I sure as heck hope not. He really needs some one loyal to drain that fetid swamp!

    Politics like sausage making is NOT for the faint of heart.

  153. Larry Ledwick says:

    And as you pointed out Gail sometimes you park a political rival where they will do the least damage or open the door for someone more desirable.

  154. pg sharrow says:

    I fear that Romney Is the wrong man for the Secretary of State. The bureaucrats of the State Department consider themselves to be the hand that guides the US international policy. Beyond the control of the administration as administrations change with every President while they are always there. They are not above sabotage to break a presidency or damage the US to win their position. I doubt that Romney can bring them to heel…pg

  155. Gail Combs says:

    Agreed, P.G.
    If Trump has to give that disgusting slug a slot in the government, how about the Ambassador to Venezuela…

    Actually he might take Ambassador to the UK and Trump can work around him through Farage.

  156. pg sharrow says:

    True, An Ambassadorship would be a safe place to put him.
    ..pg

  157. E.M.Smith says:

    FWIW, my favorite Nose Tweek would be to P.O. the BBC via a Nigel twist…

    Yesterday? the BBC was going on at great length about the angst in the U.K. over the uncouth thing Trump Did (Oh Horrors!) of suggesting that Farage would make a great Ambassador to the USA. Seems they (the Beeb) think it Evil of a US President In Waiting to suggest just whom ought be their Ambassador…

    OK….

    As I read the requirements, there simply are not much in Ambassador appointments, so:

    Dear Donald,

    Please appoint Nigel Farage as U.S.A. Ambassador TO the UK.

    He understands them very very well.
    He is highly skilled, experienced, and accomplished as a Diplomat.
    He is in agreement with your political orientation.
    He knows how to work with a hostile audience.
    He speaks the local language. ( 8-0)
    It would set tongues wagging in the UK until years post Brexit.
    It would tweak a good many noses all in one go.

    Sincerely,
    E.M.Smith
    Deplorable At Large

    P.S. Romney is a great ‘turn around artist”, put him in charge of the Veterans agency turn around. He either succeeds, and you win, or fails, and he loses…

  158. Paul Hanlon says:

    Thanks for the links, ChiefIO, Thanks Gail. Agreed about Romney. Oily Oik. Have a great Thanksgiving over there.

  159. pg sharrow says:

    While the appointment of Nigel as Ambassador is interesting, Romney as head of the V.A. might work wonders as an experiment in rehabing a bureaucracy. Certainly can’t make it worse. A lot of upper management must be fired as an attitude adjustment for the rest. From what I can see there is way too much management going on and too few people allowed to do their work of servicing the veterans. I generally pay the local “Doc in a Box” rather then utilising the VA for my medical needs. The VA clinic here wants me in their paper chase but really doesn’t have time to look after my needs. You HAVE to HAVE an APPOINTMENT to see a doctor and the appointment is handled from the regional office and it’s computerised management system. The 90 day wait is real, or go to the VA hospital. For me a 150 mile trip, one way, must be arranged. Shuttle transportation is available but you must have an APPOINTMENT! The local Doctor will see me in 20 minuets or less and is genuinely concerned with my well being. Maybe the difficulty at the front end is a “Feature” to limit utilisation and costs…pg

  160. Larry Ledwick says:

    Looks like they finally called Michigan with a very narrow Trump win (as expected)
    http://www.youngcons.com/trump-declared-winner-michigan-2-weeks-after-election-day/

    According to the Michigan Board of State Canvassers’ unofficial count.
    Trump – 2,279,543
    Clinton – 2,268,839
    Gary Johnson – 172,136
    Jill Stein – 51,463

    Final numbers are margin for Trump of 10,704 votes which was slightly less than his 13,107 original lead.

  161. Gail Combs says:

    E.M. Seems great brains think alike…

    BlackKnightRides says:
    Trump is playing the Romney Card BRILLIANTLY.

    Trump meets with Romney just before a 5-day Thanksgiving Break.

    Trump Operatives float the SoS possibility.

    Trump’s Deplorables eviscerate Romney for 5 uninterrupted days, for the Ryan GoPe to absorb.

    Privately, IMO, Trump asked Romney to serve his country and our veterans by turning around the VA – the single Cabinet job Romney is fully qualified to achieve, considering his RomneyCare “experience”, his turnaround “expertise” and his announced commitment to “service”.

    Trump Wins: Romney declines – and brands himself as a self-serving fraud – proving that he doesn’t care for our veterans, much less our country, that he ran for cover in the face of a turnaround challenge he pretended he could handle, and that running a Department was too big for him (much less the Presidency).

    Trump Wins: Romney accepts – and then owns – the mission for RAPID, MEASURED RESULTS.

    Trump Wins: Romney fails to pull off the rapid turnaround – that his trumped-up reputation asserted he could – and Trump fires him for failure, banishing him to the dustbin of history.

    Trump Wins: Romney succeeds – by granting Vets access to non-VA treatment by non-ObamaCare providers – proving that RomneyCare and ObamaCare type governmental healthcare systems are incapable of succeeding.

    Trump Wins: Trump sticks Romney with ever-escalating goals – for the VA Solution to eliminate wait times, improve outcomes, end crony capitalism (Romney’s raison d’etre) and eliminate waste, fraud and abuse – that preoccupies Romney for the duration of Trump’s Presidency.

    Trump Wins: Romney quits.

    WINNING!

    I too think that Trump will likely offer a position to Romney, just not Sec of State. Given Trump’s soft spot for our veterans, it can even be played as Trump wanted some one ‘special’ for that position who he could ‘count on’

    Notice he FIRST nominated Dr Ben Carson for HUD, taking him off the table….

  162. Gail Combs says:

    And here is Trump’s ‘I heard you.’ to us Deplorables.

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